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 Christianity Etc › Re: I "LagosShia" Will Embrace Christianity On Two Little Conditions! by proo212(m): 5:14pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Sweetnecta, we have already proven to you that Jesus=God. The onus is on you to prove to me that allah is God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Find The 16 Hidden Books Of The Bible In This Piece? by proo212(m): 4:31pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
I once made a re[b]mark[/b] about the hidden books of the Bible. It was a lu[b]lu; ke[/b]pt people loo[b]king s[/b]o hard for f[b]acts[/b]…and for others it was a revelation. Some were in a jam, es[/b]pecially since the names of the books were not capitalized. But the t[b]ruth finally struck home to numbers of our readers. To others it was a real job. We want it to be a mos[/b]t fascinating few moments for you. Y[b]es, ther[/b]e will be some really easy ones to spot. Others may require [b]judges to help them. I will quickly admi[b]t it us[/b]ually takes a pastor to find one of them, and there will be loud lamentations when it is found! A little lady says s[b]he brews[/b] a cup of tea so she can concentrate better. See how well you can com[b]pete. R[/b]elax now, for there really are sixteen names of books of the Bible in this paragraph I found them ( I cheated though, I used the answers to compute what was left |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I "LagosShia" Will Embrace Christianity On Two Little Conditions! by proo212(m): 1:42pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
If you think this is a battle of winners and losers to score cheap points you are wrong. If Jesus Christ said He and the father are one, the Father is in Him and He in the Father, what more proof do I need? Does He have to expressly tell me to worship Him before I worship Him or believe in Him? Even when He was born, the 3 wise men came to worship Him Matt. 2:2, ", Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him." If the Jews that crucified Him did not think He equated Himself to be God what cause did they have to put Him to death? Philippians 2:9-11 9Therefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in Heaven and things on earth and things under the earth, 11and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Isaiah 45:22-23 22"Look unto Me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else. 23I have sworn by Myself; the word is gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Isaiah 9:6 6For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder. And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. You will still refuse to believe after all of these verses have been shown to you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I "LagosShia" Will Embrace Christianity On Two Little Conditions! by proo212(m): 11:32am On Jan 17, 2012 |
If this verse in the Quran is in your mind equal to the 3 from the Bible below it, then your mind is dead because Yahweh in His 10 Commandments says exactly the same thing, including warning you to never take anything on earth {JESUS IN THIS CASE] or anything in heavens {HOLY GHOST IN THIS CASE] as Lord God with Him. He even express His EMOTION that Jealousy will begin if you do. But then you are doing it. I now ask you, is Yahweh the same as the speaker of your 3 biblical verses, because they both commanded and identified what they want their listeners to do?@Sweetnecta, I am not interested in your stories, we are not playing a game of numbers here (I quote one quote 10) but once again abuse from sweetnecta which is to be expected anyways, Your response in trying to equate Jesus and the spirit as idolatry is moot. The bible expressly says that God the Father, Son and Spirit are one, we have debated this time and time again so I wouldn't even bother to add references. Even Hebrew 1:6 that Dr. Stan used as a reference states that. You refuse to believe that and that is your issue. and so do we see in the bible examples of your God calling for worship only to him:@Lagosshia, praise God, you and I have come to the same conclusion that the God of the Bible (God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and proo212  ) is not god of the quran and that is fine by me. The God of the bible manifests himself as 3 (Father, Son and Spirit). |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I "LagosShia" Will Embrace Christianity On Two Little Conditions! by proo212(m): 10:22am On Jan 17, 2012 |
In all of these we also have to understand something else (not deviating from the responses already received) 2 things sprang at me. Its like someone is insecure and they need worship to feel important. If he didn't say so worship me, his followers probably wouldn't but he has to insist on worship Holy Quran 21:92 "Indeed this, your religion, is one religion, and I (Allah) am your Lord, so worship Me". Matthew 4:9The devil said to him, "I will give all this to you, if you will bow down and worship me." Luke 4:6And the devil said unto Him, "All this power will I give Thee, and the glory of them; for this has been delivered unto me, and to whomsoever I will, I give it. 7If Thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be Thine." The most proud one demanding worship! |
| Islam › Re: Three Stages Of Jihad - What Are We Supposed To Believe ? by proo212(m): 9:14pm On Jan 15, 2012 |
Yemmy1 is obviously burning with zeal like Zakir Naik. He thinks he has one on them. Throw a lot of verses at them and they would marvel that he can prove the Bible is corrupt. All your apologetics have tried and failed. Try something new. Islam is the false religion. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Proof Of Plagiarism In The Christian New Testament From The Jewish Old Testament by proo212(m): 4:38pm On Jan 15, 2012 |
I think this guy doesn't want to believe even though all evidence points to the Bible being complete. There is a lot of pride involved here and examining your position after staking your existence on the false boat of Islam and you resort to using illogic to prove its veracity. I can understand the atheist denying the existence of God but when overwhelming evidence points to a prophecy being fulfilled and he refuses to believe then you have no choice but to just shake your head in amazement because it is deliberate. There is a difference between arguing blindly without facts (ignorance) and arguing blindly even when you yourself presented the facts (delusion). This thread just helps me confirm what I have always known, a lot of the Old testament prophecies are fulfilled in the new testament. This is simplicity of the highest order. The muslims believe Jesus was born of a virgin (because the quran said so!) It was prophesied eons of years before it happened and it happened exactly like it was prophesied. What the argument is here I fail to see. Jeremiah 16:14-15 14"Therefore behold, the days come," saith the LORD, "that it shall no more be said, `The LORD liveth who brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt,'I am sure you have seen this prophesy happen with your very eyes. Israel is a country regardless of what the UN, Ahmedinijad, Hezbollah, Fatah, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood thinks. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible's Moon Of Blood by proo212(m): 11:11pm On Jan 13, 2012 |
The Qur’an says in two verses, (22:47 and 32:5), that the measure of one day in the sight of Allah is equal to 1,000 years of our reckoning. In another verse (70:4) it says that the measure of one day in the sight of Allah is equal to 50,000 years of our reckoning, Which is which? |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved by proo212(m): 12:59pm On Jan 13, 2012 |
This is where I know you are actually talking drivel. In one vein, you say some roman Catholic church fathers did not believe and in another vein you say it was tailored to suit he church fathers. Like you often say on this forum, bring me the proof! Manuscripts are available of the old and new testament. It was not memorized by people or written on donkeys/camel like some books we have heard about. How about your books that some of the memorizers died with the portion they got from your prophet? We will never know what hey memorized but for you that is not an issue. Your book is preserved!!! From scholarship there about 5600 copies of the new testament manuscripts yet they are unreliable or forged (time span between when they were written and made available about a 100 years) but other works older than the new testatment like Aristotle and Plato which between the time written and time of discovery (1200 - 1400years)and the like that have between 7 and 50 copies are more accurate abi? Amazing that people do not question the works of these people but the words of God are always questioned. |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved by proo212(m): 12:37pm On Jan 13, 2012 |
Please prove it to me that Paul wrote the book of Acts |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved by proo212(m): 12:33pm On Jan 13, 2012 |
Haba, It is amazing how much you can twist the words of God and the Bible. Jesus was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea, also a noble official who was waiting for the Kingdom of God. He went and asked Pilate for the body of Christ. He had no motive behind it. The guards even guarded the tomb just to make sure His body would not be removed by His followers. All these were documented. If we do so much distortion of your quran you will crying blue murder. It will not work! The verses you quote are not rocket science and yet you still will twist |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved by proo212(m): 12:19pm On Jan 13, 2012 |
You are a liar my friend. The Book of Acts was written Luke. He wrote to the same Roman official (Theophilus). Do your research properly. Prophecies showed that Jesus was going to die and suffer shame PROPHECY Matt 26:2 Jesus says, As you know, PASSOVER begins in two days, and the SON OF MAN WILL BE HANDED OVER TO BE CRUCIFIED. Luke 18:31-34 Taking the Twelve Disciples aside, Jesus said, Listen, we’re going up to Jerusalem, where all the Predictions of the Prophets concerning the Son of Man will come true. He will be handed over to the Romans, and He will be MOCKED, TREATED SHAMEFULLY, AND SPIT UPON. They will FLOG HIM WITH A WHIP AND KILL HIM, BUT ON THE THIRD DAY HE WILL RISE AGAIN. BUT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS. THE SIGNIFICANCE WAS HIDDEN FROM THEM, AND THEY FAILED TO GRASP WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. FULFILLED Luke 24:44-46 After Jesus Died & Rose Again - Jesus said, When I was with you before, I told you that everything written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and in the Psalms must be fulfilled.” THEN JESUS OPENED THEIR MINDS TO UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES. And He said, Yes, it was WRITTEN LONG AGO THAT THE MESSIAH WOULD SUFFER AND DIE AND RISE FROM THE DEAD ON THE THIRD DAY. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Equates Himself With Lucifer! by proo212(m): 12:05pm On Jan 13, 2012 |
The LORD knows I was waiting for this to come up From Walid Shoebat's book: Why I left Jihad |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved by proo212(m): 11:13am On Jan 13, 2012 |
what does "they all forsook him and fled" means? does "fleeing" away means standing by the corner and watching?that is not "forsaking" him!does fleeing from the trial and witnessing the alleged "crucifixion" all amount to "forsook him and fled"?They forsook him and fled when the officials and people came for Him. I really do not see any debate in this. Perhaps you can stay and fight with your bare hands when a might of soldiers come for your leader. What the disciples did was what was expected. It shows they were afraid because they were human. The point when they became emboldened is when they saw the risen Christ and Spirit (which is supposed to be your comforter) came upon them after ascension of Christ to Heaven in the book of Acts. The spirit gave them power and emboldened them and they did exploits. All these we read in the book of Acts and beyond. You are just looking to score a cheap point. If his followers did not allow Him to be seized there would be no mock trial, no crucifixion and no resurrection. (The Big Picture), you fail to see it. Prophecies would not be fulfilled. There so many prophecies in the Old Testament, he even prophecied His death in the new testament. Are you saying the will of God should not be done  This will clearly confirm the prayer/statement that the cup hould pass over Him but let your will be done nd not my will.no! so if that clause "they all forsook him and fled" means nothing to the christian,then the clause is only in the bible for decoration!!!i must then ask:who is lying?christians or their bible?what does "they all forsook him and fled" means? they "fled" to where?where did they fled to? how do you conclude they later witnessed it?let me also remind you that when Jesus was taken after the alleged crucifixion,the disciples did not know where he was.he appeared unto them and they were shocked and thus we have the narration that informs us of the "doubting Thomas"!!!there are so many points to conclude from the events reported to say that Jesus did not die!also,this is just one of the points i mentioned in my earlier post to show that christians like the Quran puts it ob the issue of "crucifixion","they only believe in conjecture"!!!All of these is nonsense, the early church father, was he there at the time of crucifixion? Eyewitness reports say He was crucified. The people knew He was because that is what they asked for. Acts 4:20 said 20for we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard."Even the book of 1 John 2:22 has already answered the question before the “early church father” brought it up. These are obviously are not "church fathers" if they can question and deny the basic essence of their faith then they are equally liars and antichrists. Early Christian sects not believing in the doctrine of crucifixion and resurrection is not an issue for me but for them. They are religious and not Christian if they do not believe in the very essence of Christianity, so your point is moot. Other false doctrine that might have been introduced by the Roman Catholic Church is another dicussion for another day another topic. Here are verses in which Peter, the chief disciple of Jesus, denied Jesus thrice and used unbelieving expressions of disloyalty to save his own life, and we have you blindly wanting us to believe that he was standing somewhere watching the alleged "crucifixion"!!!Jesus Christ said he was going to deny 3 times and that is exactly what happened. This is one of the way that proved Jesus' divinity. There is no argument here. You are trying to score another cheap point. The Matthew 26:34 and John 13:38 you quoted has answered your question. He knew it before it happened. The same Peter and the other disciples defied the authorities to proclaim the risen Christ and suffered persecution for it but they were no deterred. How much more Apostle Paul who did not meet Jesus face to face but encountered the risen Christ on the way to Damascus suffered the same fate. The archenemy of the followers of Christ at the time and later became one of the people who God used to spread the gospel so you and I could hear it. There you have it my friend. Jesus Christ was crucified and is risen. |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved by proo212(m): 6:50am On Jan 11, 2012 |
Vedaxcool said i should use commonsense, Lagosshia concur on Mark 14:50 but they are the ones failing to use commonsense. When i read they all fled, i had to go back and read Mark 14 because i thought no one was there at Golgotha but it was when He was siezed to be taken before the high priests that they fled not when He was crucified. Can we see who is not using commonsense? Verse 54 says Peter followed not far behind and actually went into the palace of the high priest. Please teli me that Peter would not get the gist of what was happening in the palace of the high priest? There were witnesses when He was put on the cross Mark 15:40 says so because Mary Magdalene, Mary mother of Jesus and Salome were. Joseph of Arimathea a honourable council member took body not the body of Judas Ischariot because he and the centurions that gave him the body would have known who was crucified. You said I should use my commonsense to analyse the issues at hand. The issue at hand is that your quran said that Allah deceived them. That makes Allah a deceiver, liar! Lying is sin! If lying is sin, then Allah had no right to drive Adam and Eve out of paradise for the one sin they committed. One of the 99 names of Allah is the deceiver. But guess who was a liar and deceiver in the bible Satan (Lucifer) The issue of Christ being God makes absolute sense because that is the reason he was sent to the cross. You acknowledge He was sent to the cross, but you do not acknowledge the reason and you ask me to use commonsense!!! We are all educated people. The only reason you believe He was sent to the cross is because your quran acknowledges it. Gospel of Barnabas? Honestly Vedaxcool now I see your problems. Here is an excerpt from analysis of the "gospel" that was not canonized and we know why. This is pure lies and deception. Once again who is the author of lies and deception SATAN!!! Get thee behind me SATAN. 3. The Gospel of Barnabas and Islam The Gospel of Barnabas overwhelmingly supports the teaching of Islam. However, there are a few rare occasions when it does not. a/ The Messiah. The Qur'an teaches that Jesus is the Messiah, and it never teaches that Muhammad is the Messiah: Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary (Qur'an 3:45, Pickthall). However, the Gospel of Barnabas denies that Jesus is the Messiah, and instead says Muhammad is the Messiah: Jesus confessed and said the truth, "I am not the Messiah". (chap. 42). Then said the priest: "How shall the Messiah be called?" , (Jesus answered) "Muhammed is his blessed name" (chap. 97). Both these ideas contradict the Qur'an. This is obviously the work of muslims trying to fit Mohammed in the bible at all costs. In order for you to tell what spirit is behind this a whole 222 chapters of lies. If this is what you believe, I pray earnestly for your souls. Once again I say, who is the liar and deceiver, SATAN. You talk of commonsense and you mention Gospel of Barnabas |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved by proo212(m): 12:28am On Jan 11, 2012 |
Vedaxcool, this argument that a man could not save himself is weak. Jesus (God in the flesh) was man and God. Interchangeably he was referred to as Son of Man and Son of God. You admit that He died on the cross because He could not save Himself. But your quran denies it. Which is it? All accounts and prophecy recorded this even, secular historians! Eyewitnesses saw this and that cannot be denied. Even the centurions that were at the crucifixion after the earth shook admitted that surely this man was truly the Son of God. The multitudes that He healed and taught admitted this, the demons recognised Him as the Son of God, the Pharisees and Sadducees and a lot of the people had a reason to want to put Him to death because of this. Whose report do you believe? You believe the companions of your prophet who recorded his sayings in the form of the hadiths. The ones you like you accept and those you don't like you reject. But these you rely on so heavily. Why not the reports of the eyewitnesses of Matthew, John and Mark (disciples) and Luke who wrote to most likely a highly placed Roman official in those times (Theophilus) Luke 1:1-3 as well as the book of Acts 1:1 When he went on the cross "He was obedient" even until death. His human nature was talking when He prayed to ask God the father to let the cup pass over Him but that His father's will be done. He knew the bigger picture. Hebrews 12:1-2 Therefore, seeing we also are compassed about by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. The bolded (witnesses) saw it and recorded it and it was established and not the revelation of one "prophet" 2 Cor 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. I know you guys do not like Apostle Paul Deut 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sins: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. Qur'an (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them, " Qur'an (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah." So if four witnesses are to establish a violation case against a woman in Islam, why can we not have many witnesses (multitudes) who witness that Christ was crucified and appeared after resurrection? Four books of the gospel plus numerous eyewitnesses and not report of about 600 years later. We are all thinking people let us use our head. |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Only Waged War In Self-defense by proo212(m): 3:06pm On Jan 07, 2012 |
Conclusion Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur'anThis lagosshia guy is a work of art. He quotes from a website about Islam that concludes the above and in return quotes a bunch of verses from the Bible (which he always has ready by the way) out of context and posts them trying to score cheap points. Amazing! The depths you will sink just to portray your Islam in a good light. You guys work round the clock to do this but the odds are always against you. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Make Man In Our Image, How Many Were They (god) by proo212(m): 11:49pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
We can argue all day and night whether our Lord was present at creation or not. We already have seen many verses to show such that He was with God the Father as well as the Spirit John 17:5 in 2 languages Luther Bibel (1545) Und nun verkläre mich du, Vater, bei dir selbst mit der Klarheit, die ich bei dir hatte, ehe die Welt war. King James 2000 Bible (©2003) And now, O Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was. Gen 1:26 Luther Bibel (1912) Und Gott sprach: Laßt uns Menschen machen, ein Bild, das uns gleich sei, die da herrschen über die Fische im Meer und über die Vögel unter dem Himmel und über das Vieh und über die ganze Erde und über alles Gewürm, das auf Erden kriecht. The bolded in both English and German as well as Hebrew bibles say Let US. Looking at John 17:5, we clearly see our Lord asking the father to glorify Him with the glory He HAD before time began. Again both languages say the same thing. If there is falsification somewhere in these translations please point it out. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Enraged By Call For A "Friendly Islam" On Christian Bumper Sticker by proo212(m): 1:12am On Jan 04, 2012 |
i must bring to your attention that none of the prophets mentioned in the bible up to Jesus claimed that or named the religion of God to be "judaism" or "christianity".to us Muslims,we believe Islamic teachings preceeded Muhammad (sa) because whatever the previous prophets taught we believe in them and the Quran orders us to love and respect them. |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved by proo212(m): 11:11am On Jan 02, 2012 |
If he knew the meat was poisoned why did he not get one of his "revelations" that the meat was poisoned? If he was so inspired he shouldn't even have asked the Jewish woman to cook for him after killing her family. That is more like tempting fate. These pick and mix hadiths sef. Anyone that doesn't say what you like then they are not authentic. So which hadiths are to be believed? Or are hadiths to be believed but not all contents of all hadiths are to be believed? Please educate me and i mean no offence by that. Because I see that Sahih Muslim and Sahih Buhkari were also quoted and these are supposed to be the most authentic ones. Contrary to your mindset, the new testament has one thing going for it, the Lordship of Jesus Christ, the essence that he came as a man and was divine, was revealed to be divine. The apostles believed he is God in the flesh, some people believed even demons and centurions as well as some Pharisees. Because of that belief, the apostles preached the death and resurrection and forgiveness of sins and salvation. (There is no ambiguity about that). If this is so, how are they inconsistent? If we look at even secular sources, they agree on the dates of 30-36AD. The difference between 36 AD and 125AD is wide, I am sure you agree with me. |
| Islam › Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved by proo212(m): 10:24am On Jan 02, 2012 |
ivoice247, i assume this means islamic voice 24/7, whilst you were trying to refute plappville as to which poison takes three years to kill someone, as i read from the write up, it says your prophet did not ingest the meat so we see that even a bit of the meat that touch his mouth was enough to make him ill. Bashir did instantly because he swallowed the meat. The meat must have been deadly if he complained afterwards that what he ate was killing him. You can try and spin this all you want but he himself admitted from different narrations. Moving on, another lie your prophet told in all of this debacle B2Now where in history did Jesus Christ whilst he was man on earth live till 125years? All sources show that he lived on earth for 33-33.5 years If your sources cannot get that right oh boy!!! |
| Autos › Re: 2008 Audi A6 2.7TDi Quattro S-line by proo212(m): 3:57pm On Dec 29, 2011 |
The car is definitely in Naija with that temp. 34 degrees. Very nice. I guess the question is how will this car be looked after with the dirty diesel fuel? |
| Islam › Re: What Islam Really Teaches About Allah And Jesus by proo212(m): 12:13am On Dec 29, 2011 |
@lagoshai:Am frankly dissapointed in you. I requested you post some quranic prophecies being fufilled today,but all i get is nursery rhymes. The only notable one is that of the jews losing jerusalem to the arabs,which was eventually regained. And this prophecy was given to daniel and ezekiel close to a thousand years before it actually took place.I got this from that thread. If those are the prophecies hmmm |
| Islam › Re: What Islam Really Teaches About Allah And Jesus by proo212(m): 11:51pm On Dec 28, 2011 |
Give ONE Prophecy that was from Mohammed that has been fulfilled. Give ONE prophecy from Mohammed that hasn't been fulfilled. I am waiting, |
| Islam › Re: What Islam Really Teaches About Allah And Jesus by proo212(m): 10:57pm On Dec 28, 2011 |
@Lagosshia, the cherry picking of scriptures and quoting out of context again. When you were quoting the John 16:7 you obviously did not read up till verse 13 that says "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come". Did your Mohammed prophesy? Did your Mohammed guide into all truth? Did Mohammed speak what he heard from God? |
| Islam › Re: What Islam Really Teaches About Allah And Jesus by proo212(m): 6:57pm On Dec 28, 2011 |
Baaassshhhyyyy Deeemmmmmyyyyyy! I thought we clarified this John 14. Bear in mind that Apostle John wrote the Gospel according to John and the book of Revelations. Exegesis of both book does not reveal the coming of another prophet. Your prophet was not prophesied in the bible. The comforter which is the spirit of truth that Christ promised was given in the book of Acts 1 and the same spirit of truth showed John the Apostle the things which were to come in the book of revelations. How then is your prophet the spirit of truth? Or are you holding on to Ahmed Deedat's explanation of the "He" appearing 8 times in John 14 which can only mean Mohammed because a spirit cannot be He. The funny thing is, he actually got it wrong depending on which translation you read, "He" came up between 4 and 7 times but that is just nitpicking (irrelevant). The people who were baptised with the spirit of truth in Acts 1 were definitely not expecting another prophet and the people who are being baptised today with that spirit of truth are being strengthened because they just get confirmation that Jesus is Lord because that same spirit bears witness with their spirit that they are children of God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus (pbuh) Only Sent To The Jews And Not To Nigerians-leave Him Alone! by proo212(m): 6:00pm On Dec 27, 2011 |
Lagosshia forgot to read Matthew 28 especially 18-20 to know that the commission was tot he whole world. he wants to hold on to that Mark is not complete fallacy. I don't want to come back to you half way because then you will twist the passages or my words out of context. Plappville and most especially Goggs, have already given you explanation of that 2 Thess chapter. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible And How God Himself "deceived" His People And Led Them "Astray"! by proo212(m): 5:32pm On Dec 27, 2011 |
Quote from LagosShia if you want to know more about the Quran say so.do not distort the meanings of those verses.Back to sender LagosShia, I have shouted a number of times here. Read the verses in context like my fellow brothers in Christ have also said numerous times |
| Islam › Re: This Is What Islam Does To You by proo212(m): 5:43pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
You could simply have said what you said is wrong but he didnt have to insult me. This is the second time but no offence taken. |
| Islam › Re: This Is What Islam Does To You by proo212(m): 5:05pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Na wa o, because I called someone who is Sunni a Shia, I am called a fool. I ask God for forgiveness on your behalf. So it is not in a shia book that means a sunni believes in that doctrine. Good In paradise, what is the reward for women that die in fighting for allah? 72 men virgins? I mean no disrespect but it doesn't compute. The Shiek and Abou Mowahad did you guys a disservice. If those are your apologetics that think Islam has a case for truth, only people like yourselves that are proud will do no soul searching and be questioning the faith. |
| Islam › Re: This Is What Islam Does To You by proo212(m): 12:42pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Praise God for the internet, what we did not know before or have access to, we now know. If not for internet, i would not have known that there are things called hadiths or that the quran was not chronological in its layout. LagosShia, once again I will shout "READ THE PASSAGES YOU QUOTE IN CONTEXT" And you say Islam does not teach 72 virgins. You lie once again, your fellow shia said he wasn't ashamed to admit it and was prepared to die for this cause. (Abu Mowahad). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdwehJUD144 and scroll to the 13th minute |
| Islam › Re: What Islam Really Teaches About Allah And Jesus by proo212(m): 9:40pm On Dec 25, 2011 |
You guys talk of rebuttal from Islamic sites, I have seen your Ahmed Deedat and Zakir Naik and Shabir Alli and all they hold on to is interpretation of the text of the quran. I thought the quran was easy to understand for a layman. The issue with you guys is pride. You have a lot time invested and you would lose face but think of eternity. Eternity is too much a price to pay for getting it wrong. Bro Dave Wood used your same quran to show the obvious lack of truth in it. Repent and believe the Christ died for your sins and was raised from the dead. He is Lord. |
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