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For Christians, it is a spirit.
So says the Bible.
That means that Christians are a sect spiritist
Sect, because it is a excision of the Jewish religion; and spiritist because he loves a spirit (though be called holy spirit).
Regards

danochi7:
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT AN AUTHOR OF CONFUSION. WHATEVER SPOKE TO HER IS NOT OF GOD

Then You decide who does things? , If the Holy Spirit or the devil??
It is easy to blame everything on the devil right?
Who ordered the murder of an entire Egyptian people? (men women and children) was Satan?
His intervention produces laughter.
It is the eternal fanaticism can not think!
The fanaticism that makes them pay tithes, and upset people on the street under the guise of "saving souls".
But beware the example of the thread , that same murderous fanaticism too!
Murders in the name of Christ! as so often happened in history.
Leave you blind fanaticism that you will live in peace with you and the universe.

nuella2:
Maybe the people also prefer to spend dollars to their currency[url=">http:// ] [/url] When you sow dollars, you open yourself to international opportunities.

kkkkkkk Yes, if you pay your tithe in dollar may get a job in the U.S. (probably in Hollywood) if you pay tithing in Rial (Iranian currency) outbreak possibly petroleum in the garden of his home. hahahahaha!
Good intervention friend!

I understand that any religion is embraced by love, not for profit.
That's hard to get across to many Christians and even harder to understand than most pastors.
Anyway, with some tips that will have other members, I advise suitable for:
If you seek the path of Christ, beware of pastors who try to take the money, citing biblical false statements to take advantage of you. That is the most common.
If no such care, instead of progressing end debt, and the pastor with new house and car.

What is the difference that the pastor copper in dollars, euros or cowries?
In neither case applies the word of the Bible.
The biblical tithe was never brought in money, but beans, oils, poultry, etc,
So if that pastor prefers dollars , is no more a thief than that charged in other currency.
A thief is a thief more than otro.Ambos are just that , thieves.
But , in my country we say:
"The fault is not pork, but who would scratch the back"
In other words: If there were no brainless fools who feed these monsters, the monsters do not exist.

alexleo:
what your friend did is bad and sinful both before God and men. The father of the girl was angry and of course he should be.

Wrong and sinful is what you just did.
Who are you to judge a person?
What powers do you have? Are you god himself?
Are you judging someone who forcibly entered the home and beat with no legal rights?
You defend such actions? Their god defend that sort of thing?
Yours parents were not taught to respect others? Not taught manners and respect?
You should be ashamed of making comments like that!
Take my sound advice: Leave the religious fanaticism and start respecting others.

bolorunfem:
No! O ti ta Ibon ni ede Yoruba (gbaganun )

Dear Madam bolorunfem:
I appreciate your answer, but I explained that I do not speak Yoruba.
Precisely for that reason I've wondered if I set the text that was correct.
Could you be kind enough to answer in English or Spanish, is essential for understanding your kind answer?

991:
Fellow Nairalanders, I decided to post this thread so you can share your views on it. Last year a friend of mine was arrested for allegedly impregnating his girlfriend (aged 20). The parents of the girl asked the girl who was responsible and she called my friend, the next morning the parents stormed my friend’s house with the police, the police disfigured my friend’s face with torture at the order of the girl’s father, he was later locked up in police custody for weeks. I know for sure that things like this happen always in this country. My question is “is there anywhere in Nigerian constitution that pledges such an inhuman treatment to men just because they are not yet married to the mother of their child”?

Dear friend:
I'm a foreigner. I do not know the laws of Nigeria, but I would like to explain something.
Even in a country there is a law, that law is worthless if international law says otherwise.
I try to explain.
Although there is a law in Nigeria (the country or whatever) to the contrary, international law (look you google the universal declaration of human rights)
1. Do not allow the emergence of the police in a private home in a violent manner.
2. Do not let the police entry into a home without a court order, after the sunset and to exit it.
3. The physical constraint (beating, torture, etc, ) Will be punished according to international standards.
4. When stopping a person by the police, he shall report immediately to the court (the judiciary) who will determine the procedure to be followed by the police.
None of this has happened, just the opposite.
It is possible (I do not know) that Nigeria will be checked obligation to marry a man became pregnant a woman under 21.
But I can assure you that the police procedure warrants a complaint before a judge, and international support for his friend.
I hope this helps.
My greetings!

mazaje:
@ OP, make sure you check your facts before reporting them, mot of what you wrote are urban legends written only to induce fear into people they have nothing to do with the truth, they are mostly lies or twisted stories. . .The Campinas story of the Brazillain lady is a hoax. . .This topic has been beaten to death and exposed as a fraud on this thread long ago. . .Here it is. . .https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-366682.0.html

For if something was missing ,
I do not understand what is the reason that motivates some believers fanatics to post some nonsense.
In their quest for leadership, they try to convince rather than generate a feeling of rejection of his own ignorance.

Thank you very much for your valuable contribution mazaje friend, I believe that if there is a minimum of common sense this thread will be closed.

Sure ,
I understand what you say.
This example of the elders councils is very graphic. In this example there are not only historical, but even part of the culture of society (I do not I mean it's something good or bad), and therefore it is difficult to change ,
It is a very complex issue because it is not only ethical, but there are other cultural reasons involved.

buzugee:
what you believe or feel is irrelevant.

I guess the only thing relevant is what you say and think ,  (so you think)
Do not forget, that the arrogance and contempt for others is also punished by God. If you learn to enunciate the truth with respect will get better results.
God not only punishes those who hate you ,
You take care to not fall on his sword yourself.

buzugee:
if you read those verses you will see that the lord brings all kinds of evil and pestilence on those who do not seek him

I regret that you have the concept of a god so bad, so vindictive, so sadistic.
My conception of God is different.

At your opinion I add, not only those who do not follow ,  also to those who follow him ,
Read my previous posts.
Regards

First, let me say that I am a foreigner, and give my opinion as such.
It is not my intention to offend anyone at all, but I just try to provide an opinion on this interesting subject.
I understand that Africa pays tribute to the ongoing European intervention, the war that, using some ethnic groups against one another, or (this is one of the most serious reasons) that separated groups treated with the same result by blending with other quite different (discussed Berlin) produced what is now Africa.
I think very valid claims of different ethnic groups, as were stripped absolutely everything.
I also believe (as you very well said) that at some level, for the benefit of all should be abandoned certain rivalries.
But which comes first?
Here in America, the result of colonialism has not been as bad as in Africa, but also separate people with the same past, to meet the needs of Europeans.
I understand that the first steps is BUILD OWN IDENTITY.
If at first do not understand our roots, we can hardly understand other groups!
First find out who we are, then struggles to understand our tribal past and reconcile with our brothers and history.
The big question is: "Are you Yoruba (Hausa, etc.) or Nigerian"? "are you Nigerian or African"?
In that order.
But I repeat, in my humble opinion the first thing you should keep in mind is our identity and our past, then yes, consider us as a whole and bring about "union"
I hope nobody is offended, it s just my opinion.
I congratulate you on the thread ,  is particularly interesting and would be very positive input from other colleagues!

I could not understand the meaning of the word "schennap". I am a foreigner, but I guess it refers to money given to complete a procedure.
I will not think of Africa, because traditions do not know.
But such things are solved with proper management of state (this sort of thing can not happen in the public domain).
In my country this kind of situation existed in large numbers, but a change of mentality, driven by appropriate policies and awareness of all yields quick results. Today, such practices can be said that not seen in my country.
If we refer to more complex situations, such as bribe to a traffic violation , occurs in very low numbers, almost negligible, as it has become aware that both the infringer and the agent can report, and both are doing something wrong.
Hope this helps

Mhhhh I do not know if we have understood the content of my posts ,
Well, never mind ,
I just I've been meditating on these punishments to their children , I do not know , if all this had been done by the devil, satan , I had accepted with more joy ,
I do not like that image of God bad, punitive, violent, even sadistic.
Very respectfully, do not share the image of that god who spends all his time listening and seeing what each one of us to hand out punishments and rewards ,
I believe that God is something much more important than that , I do not think that deals with such trivial things.
Moreover, the doctrine of fear of punishment, the devil , I mean something that can not be conceived by a true child of God.

I do not agree that the kidnapping or death of a woman and her children is something to enjoy, whether for any reason whatsoever.

odumchi:
@ Ify

Nri was the first Igbo group to adopt the four day calendar. Nri mythology has it that when the founder of Nri went on a journey to discover the mystery of time, he was greeted by four spirits named "Eke, Orie, Afor, and Nkwo" and upon returning to Nri, he used their to form a calendar.

This calendar system, along with many other Nri-made ideas (such as the ozo/nze title), spread to other parts of Igboland during Nri's golden age along with Nri priests and pioneers. It's also noteworthy to say that the further you go south from the Nri-Awka region the less you see these characteristics of "Nri presence".

Well, the general idea is that any community that uses Eke, Orie, Afor, and Nkwo as market days was in some way or anther influenced by Nri. With this in mind, there are some places that don't use this calendar or ozo/nze for that matter.

Dear friend Odumchi.
As a researcher, I want to thank you for your valuable input.
Both maps, as your comments are of great historical value.
There are always discrepancies when we talk about these issues, ethnic issues, sensitivities, etc, but their contribution is really excellent.
I deeply appreciate it!
Kind regards!

One thing is to choose a religious path to be favored, so for convenience, and another thing to follow a religious path of love and conviction.
The first way seems easy, but does not lead anywhere.

On with the list:
Jose Francisco Franco. While the priests blessed gunpowder and cannons in the Spanish Civil War, he said "Spain will rule the hand of god". He died repudiated by his people, considered one of the most despicable torturers and murderers of the twentieth century.

Leopoldo Fortunato Galtieri. Commander in Chief of the dictatorship in Argentina. "Will recover the Falkland Islands by reason, and in the name of God" was defeated by the English, tried and convicted dictator, murderer and torturer.

Jorge Rafael Videla: Commander in Chief of the dictatorship in Argentina "With God's help we can save the country" was tried and convicted dictator, torturer, murderer, kidnapper of children ,
The list is endless ,
All in the name of God ,

diluminati:
First things first, Nigeria must separate Government from Religion. Because of the Government/Religion partnership, so many corrupt deeds go unseen and unnoticed. I will be in power someday, and if this separation hasn't happened by then, then expect it from me with a brutal force.

Very true what you say.
I have the fortune to live in a lay country. That is, state and religion are totally separate. No religion has precedence over another.
I think this is very successful, mainly looking at some neighboring countries, where the Catholic Church marks the way forward on issues that concern him.
This dependence on the state to the religious power is extremely harmful.
If we add possible corruption , is even worse ,
My regards,

bermuda1:
Does anyone know if TB Joshua prophesised the Arsenal v AC Milan match yesterday

Exactly my friend!
For this reason I have mentioned in previous interventions ,
"Prophesy" who will be the champion of a soccer tournament , is just plain despicable!

And I prophesy that the next world champion football club will be for the fourth time the Club Nacional de Football of Uruguay , (IRONY)
(Recognize, I am a great prophet right?)
Best wishes!

momohammed:
My master belongs to a occult down town of Southern Africa, he has been tripping every tree month and he is very rich beyond human imagination I really must be frank I would like to join this court but i really afraid because if my master knows I belong in his occult he might kill me, I was able to discover the email address of his occult society days back but i really don't know how to contact them or what to say or where to tell them i got his there email address this is thee email address: [occult.priest.spiritual@priest.com] can some tell if they know this occult group please if yes can you recommend me to if i just want to be rich like my boss by all means please can some once help.

Dear friend.
Why do not you use logic?
If you want to be rich, work with honesty and effort.
That's the only way.
Avoid quick fixes, such as approaching bandits.
Those rascals thrive on gullible people.
None of these rascals will give her anything, on the contrary, they have managed their money at the expense of the deception, and you end up enslaved and to serve them.

Dear friend Amor4ce:
I hope you do not have misunderstood me.
I do not disqualify his opinion. I could never do that because I have no deep knowledge of historical facts. I would be very rude and very arrogant, in short, a fool, if I pretend to discuss African history with any of you.
I am a practitioner and researcher, and I have the most profound of respect for those who also seek the truth in the dark sea of the past.
I simply meant that in my order of priorities, there are elements that require a higher priority than that of the Yoruba link with Israel.
But that in no way invalidates their position, and if so understood, ask the formal apology to all.
Regardless of success or failure, I have I never intended to offend anyone.
Thanks for accepting me despite be a foreigner.

Dear friends and brothers.
I hope not to offend anyone.
Amaze me some comments about that Africa is "backward" because of its ancient rituals and that the "old gods" have done nothing for Africa.
I wonder ,
After centuries under European control (which underwent Africa to slavery, extermination, and forced exile) and under the protection of "Cristo Rey", the Bible or the Koran ,
What has won Africa?
I still remember the visit of Pope John Paul II to Africa and its message as expected, possibly some hope , but his message was "Use condoms"!!
That even the blind see it , just ignore those who do not want to see ,
A huge hug to my friends Emofine, Red Jasper, and other colleagues in the forum!

OLAADEGBU:
Teacher, are you saying that you can't teach us how Deuteronomy 25:4 applies to us because you have not learned?

Estimate.
Thanks for the compliment, but I'm not a teacher.
You are confused, because you who want to teach, and in view of the facts you have not learned.
Learn to listen to you first qualified people as Pastor AIO or Enigma, which has taken the trouble to explain.
Open your ears, and then if you try to give lectures.
Do not use isolated passages from the Bible without reading it all.
And do not you angry with me because I try to explain things you do not know.
My regards,

Idi-Amin:
Hahaha, I know that one. if you they watch TBN or God channel when they do their begpraise-a-thon and they have these businessmen raising money you will hear something like: 'Psalm 8, verse 10 says God will enlarge your coast and multiply you more and more - sow a seed of 810 dollars if you want this promise to materialise in your life!
Because it's psalm 8 verse 10, automatically they join the numbers. why not 8 dollars & 10 cents?

Dear friend.
I was surprised with your comment.
It is my understanding that in any country have expelled those merchants of the religion. That's not easy, because the merchants appeal to the supposed "freedom of religion."
But , with such impunity, it is imperative that governments take various measures, for that kind of thing (which also happen in my country) or are nothing but fraud and the law is punishable with jail.

Remember that it is not good to want to teach, while still not been learned.

   The new answer to your question is simple.
   You read the Bible and learn before posting.
   My greeting.

Dear friend:
I do not enter here to compete with anyone. Much less with Biblical themes, that does not really interest me.
But you raised the issue, you unknown Malachi, ignores the biblical term holocaust ,
Perhaps you thought that the tithe was given to the priests so that they enjoy the same? That's what pastors do today, not what the Bible says. The offerings were for God, not for priests.
I come to tell you very respectfully, read Malachi.
Now you ask me why that change has occurred ,
It should be you who makes The proposals, not surprised when I quote Malachi.
You have every right to pay tithing, whether you believe it true, I do not.
With the only thing I disagree is that you try to argue the validity of tithing without really knowing what tithing is biblically.
Moreover, I express my greatest respect.

Quote from: Ptolomeus on Today at 04:07:04 PM
Read Malachi 3 to 3.10 and you will understand that tithing was established by God for the Levite priests, who stole their offerings.

OLAADEGBU:
Really?

A man belonging to an ethnic group with a very rich history, and one of the biggest in West Africa.
Sarkin Aljan.

They (the pastors) first began to collect 10% of salary, without biblical arguments or religious reasons.
As they saw that they accepted fools, and doubters were easily convinced by false interpretations of the Bible , Now they invented this new "jewel".
You die of hunger with his family during the month of January, to meet the interpretation of the pastor!
Otherwise you will go to hell! God does not love it!
Irony!
But this is not definitive , started imposing the 10% salary January now , soon the shepherds say that the sheep must be slaves of the pastor cited Biblical passages, and fools will always work and will give you all money to the beloved pastor ,
Someone said that "the clever fool's lives."
We can say that these pastors do not have ethics, which are crude fakes, but as there are fools to accept that sort of thing ,

Some sects have no own philosophy.
They just do their interpretation of the Bible, and create your own universe.
Speaking of them, not based on their own proposals, but attacks on other beliefs.
Criticize religions that make offerings, but they are done well ,
You ask how long you should keep planting seeds sister and giving money to the pastor?
Well, should continue to do so until one day is no longer have more money.
Then the pastor will be responsible for her sister apart from the church because it no longer serves its purpose.
"word of god"
What irony!

It's complex.
The biblical God is not frowning or punished when they commit adultery with Abraham his servant ,
That God does not punish polygamy ,
In fact , Joseph and Mary were not married, lived together HOWEVER.
There are many passages in which God does not punish certain things ,
Now ,
In practice.
If you are separated could say that God does not accept that, but it is something that has happened, not only depends on you.
The biblical God also allowed promiscuity, but in other passages censorship.
Arguably, it should only sex for procreation. You do so?
How many Christians repress their sex? Many pastors and priests?
Dear friend , I know I will cite some outdated to biblical passages, but some advice:
BE HAPPY.
Do not let the eternal oppressors, who made ​​the cult of fear (and HOWEVER are the first to fall into the "temptations" wrecking his life.
God created man to be happy, not awarded the repressed bodies ,
I'm not talking about promiscuity, but to live at peace with himself.
Be happy.

I agree with what you say.
I may not generalize well, because in all beliefs are honest and , "the other"
Regardless of the ethical issues you rightly points out, what is more outrageous is the arrogance and aggressiveness with which some attack other groups.
Use terror, threatening to the devil, Satan, go to hell anyone who thinks differently is one of the tactics of those fanatical sects.
Disqualification based on lies so is ,
True, my friend: there are many things to change.
I understand that first we must change ourselves, and to unmask the impostors who profess the "cult of fear" and "only truth" for financial gain.
Religion should not be a business, or a war.
In the same city can be reached by different paths.
Tolerance should be the basis of all religion.
But when personal interests are , ethical standards begin to disappear. unfortunately , and everything seems to be valid in the "JUNGLE RELIGIOUS"
My greetings!