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[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=687080.msg8490077#msg8490077 date=1307666848]This is a step in the right direction. Being an expertiates does not necessary mean more experience, it may be due to the quest of CHEAP labour or the lust for anything foriegn.Believe me, it may be cheaper to hire an indian technician in Nigeria. 

secondly, our labour laws are very porus to prevent the influx of other citizens. In places like Angola, No expertriate will exceed the limit of stay which is 3 years, The government stipulates that period frame as the a maximum time which the expertriate should have impacted his "knowledge" if he has any, on the locals.[/quote]Exactly.

Dis Guy:
Holy Cow!!

the so called ministry should be scrapped and placed as an independent aviation department under Ministry of Transportation!

Not even a department. It should be scrapped completely. Once you have an aerospace monitoring agency to handle traffic and security (the air-force can do this of course), a regulatory agency handling consumer interests (which can be combined with other transportation enterprises), an accident and investigation bureau (once again combining under a grand scheme with other forms of transport), and an airworthiness agency to handle aircraft matters that's all you need. These agencies operated by consummate professionals and self financing, what is government's business with the airline industry. the ministry of aviation is just another drain of public resources. All the minister does is to attend the talk shop called FEC meetings and discuss contracts while the industry rots.

Government has no business in aviation beyond monitoring. Investment must be private sector driven. Flying remains an elitist business in Nigeria. Those who patronize it should pay for it. Those who are interested in it should invest in it. Government's expenditure should go to where the bulk of Nigerians are.

As for pilots, like someone said travel out and seek economies that can appreciate your profession and handle the volume of job seekers. The few planes the few airline have are not worthwhile. I guess the reason for the large number of expatriates has to do with the lease agreements some of these airlines have with aircraft owners and banks abroad. They no wan hear debt. The moment you don't pay up as and when due, no repo wahala,  the pilots just take off   and God help any fortunate Nigerian aboard thinking of escaping Nigeria, free ticket to Amsterdam   .

Civil war has just broken out

If you're being persecuted for my sake relax your reward is in heaven . If they are water-boarding you then that's illegal .

That's exactly what I'm saying on the Dangote thread. Believe me its better to be in jail for producing something than claim to be free but at the mercy of ineptitude. What is freedom wit kero going for N 800 a litre. This act has proved than this country can and believe me will be self sufficient everything. They just make us believe that refining petroleum products can only be done by angels, only in heaven are there good roads, and constant light is divine. When they push and push people then it will become clear to all who the few people really running this country and running it into the ground.

We don't make enough of the stuff. Our interests are primarily buying and selling not manufacturing. So one man makes, ten men distribute it, twenty men retail it. We can't square the circle. Demand outstrips supply, period. Most want to build houses, practically all want to live in one but only three or four make the stuff that builds the houses. Its cool to blame Dangote and the government but there's a new call for prospectors to take over government power assets and he's there again. Where are others who have the means. Their own loot are in Swiss banks or at the mercy of shops in Dubai and casinos in Las Vegas. When he, Indians, Chinese and probably South African take over the whole stuff we cry foul again.

When bank chief's were brought down there were so many insinuations against the prosecutors, same when Ribadu was EFCC boss. He was used by OBJ against his political opponents. Now OBJ is gone the next ghosts must be found. Same concerning DSP, Tafa, Bode George, James Ibori, the list is endless. Someone was alleged to be after them for one reason or the other. It will not end. The truth is he was arrested and is being charged to court for a CRIME HE HAS COMMITTED. If he has not committed a crime why is he being arrested. this is a country we know where there are so many thieves in office running this country. So many thieves in retirement. So many thieves on sabbatical so if he can be arrested it means his thievery is important to someone. So let's face the facts you cannot lump the two together. If he has bones to pick with someone then why steal. If you must work as a petrol attendant you have to learn to do without smokes for a season. Why put his hand into anti-corruption moves when he knows he cannot resist the allure of graft. Why throw stones when you live in glass houses. Just keep/steal quietly like the others. After all was it not a PDP chieftain that said it is bad manners to talk while you're eating.

Old habits from childhood. For the average child who is not brought up in situations of very serious hunger and malnutrition they love variety be it colours, textures and tastes. Most meals in these parts are largely one-dimensional and unattractive to them - grains, puddings or porridge - that's all, so they just pick on the little thing that looks different and get quickly addicted to the act if mummy doesn't make them eat the rest. The same reason why adults continue the trend. Have you noticed it changes with proper continental or an oriental cuisine where you may have upwards of five or six different colours and textures. You tend to handle practically everything simultaneously. Even the humble burger looks a lot more attractive than some meals we cook here and I've not seen anyone yet slide out the meat and crunch on the wafer and cabbage first. Our meals are largely volumetric and sometimes these children tend to be intimidated by the bulk particularly when they are not in starvation mode. That's where the habits start.

dubem3:
one man's meat, another man's poison [color=#990000][/color]

My real poison. Can't stand the smell, just can't .

Which ever brand exploits our locally cultivated produce most, employs the most Nigerians and has the least foreign exchange flight is my choice any day. That's the only way to guarantee you're not drinking radiation, toxins or the much vaunted E.coli.

This is the thread I have longed for. So many important point. Prior posts we had the sole views of sellers most of whom didn't know what they were into. Now we have the views of genuine Nigerian users and this has helped. What is left is the picture in perhaps the long term particularly as it concerns cost efficiency. For the careful users where the costs of the batteries is over 50% and are more or less the disposable parts of the system what would be cost profile in the ling term. This can help those who want to establish larger scale systems and intend to use it for primary source of stable power and not just as a back up system.

Secondly to help most Nigerians it is equally important that local technology and manufacturing know how improves. For those experienced in this field have you noticed a closing or widening quality gap between top end foreign imports and top end local products. I would like to know.

However one good thing about all this is that some Nigerians have adopted good conservative practices. Batteries are not eco-friendly by any stretch of the imagination but those power hungry filament bulbs and massive CRT tv's are worse. Anything that can hold forth to suppress generator running times is highly welcome.

nakedwire:
When will Nigerian politicians ever learn.

After pressing calculator for expected daily revenue (Estimate of 120passengers X N20k = N2.4M/per average domestic flight) , they think it is a get-rich-quick scheme/investment.
Marwa wasted his stolen loot on AL-BARKA AIR. His rusted, scrap and junk planes are still littered all around the countries airports.
Now this Tinibu is investing in the same Air industry.

Another money miss road.

My brother that is the saddening effects of corruption. It dulls the mind to wisdom even conventional business sense. Common sense should ask why the high turnover in airlines in Nigeria, common sense should ask am I wealthier that those who have corruptly enriched themselves and fallen flat broke in airline business. Common sense should ask why the real rich in Nigeria have stirred clear of that industry. For whoever owns that airline, it is the beginning of the end of his loot. The figures don't add up and the economy cannot support it.

My people we cannot square this circle. If our elites think we cannot progress with them then they cannot progress alone. It reminds me of the fancy restaurant attributed to the first lady of Kogi state a few months ago. When all the people are poor who will patronize it. Bet its closed down today.

We've done the simple maths on air travel in Nigeria. Its not worth investing in. LET OUR POLITICAL OFFICE HOLDERS PAST AND PRESENT SPEND OUR COLLECTIVE WEALTH (their loot) ON REASONABLE AND VIABLE INVESTMENTS please.

jmaine:
My only skepticism  with Dangote is that he might just win the license and decide to incubate it for a huge profit margin in the nearest future to interested parties . Just like what he did with the 3G license he won and eventually sold to Etisalat via Alheri Mobile Services Limited . .The status quo remains the same while Dangote cares less . .  afterall . . he can afford his energy consumption . . . Just hope we will not be seeing another NITEL charade here and the process is made transparent and handed over to whoever has the capacity and will power to manage them well even if Dangote happens to be that man

Well I hope it does lead to the utter demise of PHCN with all its so called assets. This hoe we are all jumping around cannot farm the land we need to feed the nation. When all the dancing is done and the big boys with their tractors step in let us see where the Indians or Dangote will stand. Relax, this is not cement or noodles. He is a small fish. All his ten billion dollars cannot power Ahmadu Bello way. Add Ozumba Mbadiwe and the plant will come to a screeching halt.

Sun of god:
Last week he was announcing 'Free Education' for all. . . . . . .

This week he is declaring the state 'Bankrupt'

Does this 'Guy' know what he's doing?

I'm sure by next week he will announce the 'Trebling of School Fee's' in Imo state.

No I think he was running on the line of his manifesto when he spoke that but having come into the reality of the situation adjustments have to be made. Look the best intentions have grave limits. That's why a true 'Freedom of Information Bill' was necessary to unmask the hidden deals and pots of porridge these elected leaders cook with bankers and other creditors. Did he know he would be saddled with an empty treasure - perhaps. Did he know of the 100 billion debt - most unlikely. Even in economies where FOI is in force campaign promises are sometimes adjusted or shelved completely in the reality of the prevailing mess. Obama has inherited Guantanamo and cannot close it down because the ghosts of George Bush have their feet firmly in the door jamb. C & C have baulked at some promises concerning spending, the NHS, electoral reforms amongst others. It is not easy.

This is where sincerity comes in. He must be seen to walk the talk, personally and publicly. If he cannot deliver free education for all, do the next best thing - massive scholarships. If he cannot deliver free education he can still spend a massive proportion of what is left on education not on irrelevant stuff. If he cannot deliver free education then he cannot ride a bullet proof mercedes s600 costing 100 million and purchase 40" LCD's for half a million to decorate government house ala banky. Then people will understand and praise him for his concern for them. I tell you governance is easy. Nigerians are not as demanding as the British or Germans who have gone to war because of poverty. We are easy to lead and the FOI bill only makes it easier for sincere leaders. After all if papa no get money he no get make we go sleep. But if papa no get money and he dey shack about, then wahala dey. That is why the cut in security vote and his salary overture was commendable.

I think this is a master stroke by ACN or Tinubu or whoever is in charge there. In the first instance for the ACN to have a say in what was in those days a pure PDP matter speaks volumes. Secondly by ensuring the remnants of PDP west gets nothing has effectively ended PDP in the west and stripped the like of Baba of any foothold whatsoever. Third by going NW he's poaching in CPC's backyard and when 2015 comes there will be some sort of chemistry going on there. take it or leave it ACN has finally emerged as a serious force that all other parties have to take very, very seriously. I really don't like the man Tinubu and believe more in structures rather than individuals but you just have to hand it to the man. He sees three steps ahead of others. A chess master indeed.

violent:
So what happens if they can't afford to pay the fine?

Then they be made to work the amount.   . Clear drains, cut grass, direct labour road works, community service. If we know how much it costs to clean-up (One kilometer stretch of road - single lane requires at least three cleaners - work that out monthly at minimum wage and multiply by the extent of roads state wide) then add the associated health bill from filth that government will have to bear if it offers free healthcare then all hands must be on deck. Enough is enough. These monthly environmental clean-ups  are the things to stop. They are relics of the military. A strong deterrent is required. Some Nigerians are just pigs. You're driving behind some minibus taxi and a banana peel lands on your windscreen or worse a blob of   and you just feel like overtaking the bus and slapping the hell out of the chap who cannot wait to get home to dispose his trash or afford a N 50 hanky. Terrible.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=685056.msg8474829#msg8474829 date=1307477864]I really pity Okorocha and what he has inherited but he already has a great resource at his disposal. The greatest resource in the SE is the human resource.  He must engage professional Imolites and Ndigbo both at home and especially in diaspora for a plan on how to transform the state. He must start thinking of how to diversify the state's economy while rapidly increasing the IGR. It wouldn't be easy but someone has to do the job afterall that's why he was elected.


@OAM4J, u know u obviously have your work cut out. Please keep an eye on Eko-Ile on this thread and section. By his antecedents, he's a well known trouble maker.[/quote]

rolchi:
Free Education is in danger oh! He has put everyone on high red alert, Common folks, there is no free education cos we are broke, take it or leave it!

We are watching!

Even Peter Obi, an APGA Governor as the Chairman of SE Governors advocated for fees increase in the Universities of the SE, abi we don forget

So, will ARO bring money from his private purse to fund this "Free Education"?


Summarily, I think he should be more deft politically than talking everyday in the news, let him ask Peter Obi!

Gov. Rochas to me is in a good position. He doesn't have to make Imo, New york in four years. The depth of degradation is such that any positive movement will be welcomed. What he needs to do is build structures first and foremost. Put in place working mechanisms and tied them down properly. Look the prosperity of Imo will be created by Imolites and as they have chosen to do so they will rally round and afford whatever sacrifices are needed will pull the state through. What people should understand is that the 100 billion is a debt owed by all not by government alone so all should pull together. While the iron of electoral victory remains hot he should convene a massive town hall meeting, lay all cards on the table in all honesty, restructure debts, renegotiate wage increases, salary arrears, contractors obligations and bank interest payments. He is a smart chap and I know he can do it.

He should take a page out of bankruptcy 101. Talk, talk, talk with creditors. And while he is at it make sure everyone from him to the least feel the pain equally. He must walk the talk. No more expensive cars, functions and patronage. All contracts must be given by locals and executed on a bare-boned basis and keep away from Shylock bankers who must have flooded the capital by now to worsen the situation. As for the free education thing. It remains possible but probably not on the scale envisaged. It can be selective by scholarships paid for by the well to do and big corporations.

Another thing he should keep off is the revitalization here and there of industries. If it is not PPP then increasing the bureaucracy is the last thing he should be doing. Job creation is purely a private sector thing. Just create the environment, bring to the table the assets you have like land, permits, logistics but no cash. No cash whatsoever. That should be reserved for basic infrastructure once more handled by Imolites alone. He can do it.

armyofone:
one thing i don't like is the way they do the trading. i thot there should be a market place. every side of the road is being raided by traders. such a sad sight  

Quite agree with this one. We have become a nation of traders and the environment has suffered for it. Sure the governor has his work cut out. But if Lagos can attempt to clean its streets so can he. Though he does not control the macro economy he can convert at least some of these traders to cleaners for all its worth. You'd be surprised how much garbage and filth just 1,000 naira worth of boiled corn and a hundred naira bag of 'pure water' can generate compared to the huge cost of clearing it to the landfill. Something has to give. Government just has to buy them out of their squalor in sufficient numbers to restore sanity then enact strict edicts to keep the environment clean with huge fines to pay for it  . All they need is seed capital and like LASTMA its becomes a self financing venture.

Bensonite:
I invited some mopol to my child dedication and avoided giving them beer unfortunately one of them shot sporadically at the air demanding for the real buzz and guess what after giving him the real thing, the shooting got worst and all my visitors ran away. My advice never make police your friend as they can do anything and claim accidental discharge!

Aw dear, no harm intended. He was just trying to be merry. Maybe you should have given him a banjo instead .

Skii:
Don't mind him, he became a Sith Lord, now He is trying to woo Young Amosun to the Dark Side, Just like the Chancellor (Darth Sidius) did Young Anakin

Amosun May the force be with you

Good one.

The fact that this kind of post exists and made the front page proves the wheels are indeed turning. I think this is one area where more enlightenment is required. Most people just give in and wait for the next elections. That is why I am a strong advocate for the retention of the national youth service program. This is where they should come in, public enlightenment. They have overseen a better than expected election season but the job is only half done. INEC should have been retained them a few more weeks to enlighten the people on how to use their power. a sort of post election debrief.

When you vote you are a channel of power. But it does not end there. There is no car without brakes and INEC should not just teach how to throttle but how to stop as well. Not just conduct elections but inform people of the other side of ensuring the electorate is fulfilled, after-all when trouble comes via petitions it is them (INEC) that will waste their resources in court rooms. If recalls were a real possibility then issues of rigging and election violence would be greatly reduced.

The fact that recalls are so very rare despite high level corruption and mediocrity in the polity shows our democracy needs deepening and these are the tools for the job. Good post. Hope for good responses.

I'm not worried in the least about their track records. To me its like asking people to bid for the then NITEL in the process of privatization. They are buying very faulty assets and will probably bankrupt them anyway. Secondly if Dangote buys all the assets that will give him a maximum of only 4,000 megawatts. That pales into insignificance compared to what the grid requires and what people presently generate from their personal IPP's. He will have to inject an additional 10,000 MW within a very short time to compete when the lions of world electrical power generation notice the buffalo running across the plains. Its an advantage but not much. MTN had that head start, what is it to them today. Nothing. The market has so broadened and deepened that they are amongst equals. Dangote will not be able to power Nigeria alone.

Now if we could accept Mike Adenuga in Telecomms let us give Dangote a chance. He may just be the bulwark against the type of MTN business practices we saw in the early years. We must empower our own industries and entrepreneurs to ensure as much cash as possible remains here in our system. If only there could be other dynamic businessmen with his type of courage. If only.

fasa2020:
why complainin about d money to be spent? Are'nt you aware dt billions of naira are wasted yearly on budget due to fake hike censors figures in d country? In fact, this is a welcome idea and i pray God shall lead us through. God bless Nigeria.

Yeah and as a matter of fact if this is the program I'm aware of, this is a private sector initiative and we will be paying for this one not government just like International passports. If its is.

51-49. Would be happy if they could put more effort into legislative matters this time around. That's where stability is important but when you consider that not much will change as concerning the much hated issue of excessive privileges it all pales rather badly. The ayes have it. Someone else should bell the cat.

eyoniggar:
You guys are just talking and yapping like you dnt know what Nigeria is all about. Give yall 2 weeks and this case
is a forgone 1. He'll settle and move on.

The way the political scene shifts so quickly these days even two hours in the slammer may cost him a lifetime in oblivion and be sure the money will be gone long before then. Rehabilitation is becoming more difficult. How many indicted, arrested or even suspected politicians have made it back to the big league, very, very few. For a young man who supposedly has a bright future this is a tragedy. He may not know this now and focus on preserving his loot but when in a few short years his colleagues and even subordinates have moved well past the regrets set in. Just ask Esau or IBB for that matter. Don't worry Bankole has seen nothing yet. He will seek relevance very soon with tears but no one will even shift a glance. He's finished indicted or not.

Step by step we'll get there. This is what to consider, particularly the youth when you aspire for public office. Consider your future beyond money if you think its worth it. Reputation is fast becoming a weightier currency these days.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=683617.msg8462165#msg8462165 date=1307331073]women do not dig wells in my own area, dont know about yours.

just saying, because somebody will take your post literally.

the original post wasnt meant to be taken seriously btw. You have to distinguish between genuine ignorance and light hearted humor.[/quote]Oh yes back then they did. I really can't think of any job they did not do. It was a hunting injury that ended my mum's early endeavors. She still has the scars of the claw trap to show for it. Then she was confined to the house and given the leftovers when her sisters went out (they were all girls), her dad passed away quite early. When she recovered she went into construction, building the local church, primary school and some culverts with some missionaries. That is how she paid for her secondary education. But when you consider that education was looked down on as for weaklings it paid of for her much later. She ended up in University College, Cardiff while her sisters never went past secondary school.

The truth of the matter is that the standards expected of women have radically changed over the years. Back then it was physical fitness and exceptional mental stamina. When you see the sagging triceps of my late grandma no one will tell you what she was all about. How else do you care for a dozen kids. These days I think it more of what is upstairs that matters. How well you balance work and home is the yardstick today. It does not reduce the responsibility by any chance but men who expect firewood splitting hunks for wives who rise at 4.00 a.m. are really not living in reality. She can not be an asset to you that way.

When you consider the average airline having less than a dozen aircraft we are talking about moving a maximum of five thousand passengers a day. This will gross on average 100 million a day at the very top end. (I'm sure this is attained by very few). That is just shy of $ 650,000 daily. How much is the wet lease on a 737 these days. Then when you remove fuel at about forty million + a day to run those planes what is left for airport dues and almighty maintenance when and when it comes. It is a cut throat business. Nigerians are not just traveling in such numbers that could bring in seventy to eighty planes an average airline will require to make good profit. They may have a few good days during the holiday season but these are few and far between.

RICHIE BOI:
i rate them low. the company owes its workers alot. presently as am writing this the workers are being owed 2 months salary.while the company is making profits everyday. how sad.

Not true. There's no airline in Nigeria making money. How can you when over 60% of your cost is offshore in raw foreign exchange. What you see in Arik is symptomatic of the aviation business in Nigeria. Where they have no wealthy patrons, they are running on bank credit. For Arik it is obvious their patrons have gravitated away from political power so easy cash is harder to come by. The government bail out has not been forth coming so the circle has to be squared. I will only thank old Harold for keeping them from dropping from the sky. If tired looking food, movies and staff is your complaint please be realistic. The Nigerian economy simply cannot support a vibrant aviation business.

Parnassuss:
I am with you here! Surveillance should have done the work for them, never make a move till the suspect is in your sights!
This is just pathetic!!! How can the freaking IG of the freaking Police come to beg a politicians. If it were a group of bank robbers would they have been given the luxury of negotiation Why give a criminal that kind of power? If the EFCC was serious they would have gone there prepared for the worse, I mean its not like Bank'ole had been perfectly cooperative with them that they should treat him with kid gloves, he flaunted the order to report to the EFCC twice!!! What more reason should they wait for to treat him like the fool he is.

The wheels move slowly but they surely will move. We will get there.

enyojo:
Ajaokuta Steel!  

kevoh:
Wow! What is the government waiting for? If this Ajaokuta will solve part of Nigeria's problems then what is stopping them,

It all depends on what you call that place. What it was created for is yet to be understood so how would anyone begin to contemplate how just to tackle it. So when successive governments 'hear' of the place it perhaps sounds like the mythical 'eldorado' to some or like a pilgrimage to others. Just go there for yourself. Not hearsay. Believe you me just go there.

If you want to get to the origins of Christianity or Judaism you go to Jerusalem right? or you go on pilgrimage to Mecca for the Muslims or to the Vatican for the Catholics or you want to find the origins of ancient American civilization you get down to Azteca or you wish to know what makes the Asian tigers of today and get lost in the deserts of inner Mongolia, yes to the birth place of Ghengis Khan. If you wish to know the origins of institutionalized graft in Nigeria today and obtain an answer for why our house leaders do not consider a third of a trillion naira over four years as anything of concern then go the spiritual home of all things Nigerian corruption - 'Ajaokuta Steal Meal'.

All governments have faithfully paid homage and carried our collective national endowment to sacrifice to this 'god of iron'. ALL GOVERNMENTS since 1982 without exception. It is said if you balance Nigeria on a pin tip the most like spot it will hit is that plant. Right in the middle. It is the axis on which this nation balances. If crude oil business is bad. This is badder. Real bad. All tribes and tongues have eaten there to their heart's content. It is a national tragedy.

675 billion, thirty years of waste. I think a good samaritan should just divert a nuclear tipped tomahawk to that place and end our misery. What can I say. Its sad.

efisher:
@ nimma, you are right. Have you been to the place?

I cannot even describe how terrible it is. You need to see it live to understand how bad it is. It is like setting money on fire purposely.

Gaius67:
I served in Ajaokuta back then when it was managed by the so called SOLGAS from the US. Anybody going there will have a very heavy heart at the level of decay, waste, 'untapped potentials' that we had by way of that complex. There is a special rail line in there linking the complex to Enugu the coal city and Itakpe the Iron ore town. Underground passages stretch several meters all over the complex and the heavy machinery underground are far more than what they have on the surface. I dont know about now, but back then they were adding much power to the national grid electricity wide.
From stories that fly around, the bulk of the problems started when the Russians who designed it left; because they understood and planned the whole thing. The problem with them was that everything was in Russian language - manuals, circuit diagrams and there was a lot of hoarding of info from the Nigerian folks back then. Also a problem is the Government's ignorance of the place and the way forward in making it work; this is apart form the tussle for ownership of the land itself - a big rift between the Igbirras and the Igalas who claim it is their land.
One of the greatest sections of the complex is meant to be the Blast furnace from which casting and all forms of modelling can be done but to date, it is not functional. I learnt that when the place was working briefly after it was commissioned back then, companies used to come with prototype designs for boats, large industrial frames - name it; the capabilities were just too much. The workers there are the most demotivated Nigerian workers - they go to work daily with nothing much to do - sit around and recount the good old days with the Russians, when things were still good; they generated their light, had water 24/7, food very cheap because of the farming communities there and they had lots of expat communities there to.
Its a big shame on naija anyway - we have leaders who take so much pride in intimidating the populace but are empty upstairs. Must the Govt manage everything. Kenya some yrs back made a renowned nuclear scientist to be in charge of their power ministry because the man went to UAE to start up a nuclear reactor their upon invitation, and till date light never blinks in UAE. Such was the idea that Kenya had and so invited him over but in Nigeria it never happens. We have experts the world over who have solutions and potentials to solving so many challenges we have but instead it is made a political affair and all sorts. God help us

efisher:
If you visit Ajaokuta Steel Company (knowing what the potentials are), you will weep like a baby. The enormity of the waste is beyond imagination.

Thought I was the only one. If you want to see grown men cry, take them to Ajaokuta Steel Rolling Mill. I tell you. Those who campaign against graft should conduct guided tours of that plant and urge tourists to take along their tissues. Those of us supporting one leader or the other and bashing one or the other will realise ALL our past leaders have fallen short of the basest standards or humanity when it comes to that project. It is a monument , a theme park to collosal waste, corruption, ineptitude and all that has made this country what it is.

Just take a tour. I did and I cried and I never want to ever go back there all the days of my life.

Well its Freedom of Information isn't it. Saw it on the front pages at the traffic lights and drove straight by. Wanted to have a good day. Now let's see how the new assembly will react to this knowing we have a few more elected anti establishment figures from opposing parties ala ACN and CPC.