₦airaland Forum

A man of 72 is actually a Septuagenarian not Octogenarian as said by Mr Ahmadu Ali.

jmaine:
Visionary party propping up a semi-literate geriatric dunce to pilot the affairs of a country of over a 100 million folks . . .

Yeye dey smell . . . .

Ahhhh....when all else fails, just revert to this nonsense allegation.

Yawns.

ogb5:
If only Obasanjo had stopped the introduction of Sharia in the North during his tenure, terrorists would not have been emboldened to trample on our rights today.

The problems we are facing today is an accumulation of years of misrule with Obasanjo alone accounting for 11 years of the misrule.

Obasanjo could not have stopped the "introduction" of Sharia in the North. Sharia has always been enshrined in the Nigerian constitution. Why that was allowed in a so-called secular country is another topic entirely but it is what it is.

What some of the northern states tried to do under Obasanjo was to implement full sharia as stipulated in the Koran which recommends the cutting of limbs and stoning to death as opposed to the modified sharia recommended by the Penal code which replaced these extreme measures with various jail terms. This was obviously a political move at the time.

Following the religious riots in Kaduna and the reprisal crisis in Aba in year 2000, the council of State met and unanimously issued a statement directing all Northern States that had adopted the "full sharia" to immediately revert to the status quo antebellum. That is why, beyond the hapless fellow who was used as a scapegoat in Zamfara, no other person suffered such a gruesome fate.

While I agree with you that the challenges today are an accumulation of years of misrule under various military and civilian regimes, claiming that Obasanjo's refusal to stop the full implementation of Sharia led to the advent of Boko Haram is an obfuscation of the facts of the matter.

Now this is funny!!!!

Monimatic:
The Catholic Church has washed its hands off the ongoing controversy over the strong criticism of President Goodluck Jonathan by Rev Father Ejike Mbaka of Adoration Ministries in Enugu, accusing him of double-speaking.

The church said it did not authorise Mbaka to speak on its behalf, insisting that it is wrong for Mbaka to endorse the president and later warn the electorate not to vote for him during the February 14 presidential poll.

The church added that it did not have an official position on whose candidate the Catholic faithful should vote for, saying that as the largest Christian group, it is illogical for it to direct members to vote for certain candidates as the voters have the prerogative to exercise their inalienable rights in such a situation.

A catholic faithful, Mr Callistus Ebue, disclosed this during an interview with LEADERSHIP last night in Enugu.

He said, “The Catholic Church did not authorise Rev Father Mbaka to speak on its behalf. There is no way the church, with millions of its members, make a pronouncement on who to vote for during the February 14 presidential election. The church does not have an official position in this regard. The decision to vote for any candidate is the prerogative right of the church faithful just like any other Nigerian.”

While some of the Catholics in Enugu argue that Mbaka might have been led by the Holy Spirit in his pronouncement over Jonathan’s re-election bid, others said that the cleric ought not to have dabbled into the murky waters of politics.

According to a Catholic knight, Sir Abuchi Anueghiagu, Mbaka was initially inspired by the Holy Spirit to endorse the re-election of Jonathan, saying, however, that whatever Mbaka pronounced during his homily at the Adoration Ministries ground on December 31, 2014, was also a function of the leading of the Holy Spirit.

According to him, as an ordained priest in charge of a parish, Christ the King Parish, and the spiritual director of Adoration Ministries, nobody is qualified to challenge any sermon he delivers from the altar.

But another knight of the Catholic Church who spoke to LEADERSHIP on condition of anonymity condemned Mbaka of speaking from both sides of his mouth.

He said that having previously blessed Jonathan on his re-election bid, he ought not to have made a volte-face. He advised priests to be cautions of their pronouncements from the altar, as whatever they say has a way of affecting their followers either negatively or positively.

The Catholic bishop of Enugu Diocese, Rev Dr Calistus Onaga, could not be reached at the time of filing this report last night.


http://leadership.ng/news/399872/catholic-church-disagrees-father-mbaka

All this kind half-baked journalists and their cut and join reports

An article titled "Catholic Church Disagrees with Father Mbaka" cites quotes from "A catholic faithful" and 2 knights and decides their opinions represents the opinion of the entire catholic church.

Cardinal Onaiyekan and Archbishop Kaigama have made the formal position of the church clear in their statements yesterday. Was Leadership Newspaper asleep at the time?

Oga Sirius, thank you for the sacrifices of you and your colleagues in the war against Boko Haram.

In this case however, I am afraid the blogger did no wrong by publishing the soldier's view which he had aired on a public medium.

Sadly, he put himself out there.

dontjealousme1:
Is dat a threat? Gen Buhari will never rule Nigeria. How can a man that heve cost many to lose their life be President? It will not happen, just wake up.

Threat ke? No o!

You were the one who stated that the President can never lose elections and the vehemence with which you made the statement made me conclude that you would do something quite drastic to or by yourself if he does lose.

that is why I said I hope Jonathan wont lose "for your sake."

dontjealousme1:
Have a little faith, GEJ cant lose in FEB 2015. It is simply not possible.

I hope for your sake he doesn't.

waternogeteneny:
Nobody arms themselves to surrender, if GEJ is not returned in Feb 2015, no more Nigeria go and ask Akpabio.

Sounds to me someone is now singing the same tune the PDP falsely accused Buhari and the APC of singing after the Pre and Post-2011 elections

You are a big joke!!!

The elections will come and go and if Jonathan loses the heavens will not fall!!!

Neither will the earth stop rotating if Buhari loses. Nigeria is bigger than either men!

Let PDP stay there and be griping about Osinbajo's "fake lifestyle" while the man is slowly but steadily introducing himself to the populace.

The man has made it clear that his exploits on the streets is a campaign strategy aimed at introducing himself to the populace and helping to push the agenda of the APC on the streets.

Let Sambo do the same instead of remaining the anonymous lackey to the President.

TeaParty:


More troubles appear to be staring the controversial Catholic Priest and Founder of Adoration Ministry, Enugu Catholic Archdiocese, Rev. Fr Ejike Mbaka, in the face following his statement urging Nigerians to reject President Goodluck Jonathan of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and vote for Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (rtd ) of the All Progressives Congress (APC) in the February 14 presidential election.

Speaking to THISDAY in an exclusive interview, the Catholic Bishop of Abuja Metropolitan See, Cardinal John Onaiyekan, said given the rules of the church, Fr. Mbaka ought to be sanctioned.

This came as Onaiyekan cautioned the PDP and opposition, All Progressives Congress (APC) to desist from campaigns of calumny.

He  stated that prophecies of doom  ahead of 2015 elections notwithstanding, “PDP and APC have no right to disorganise Nigeria.”

Onaiyekan,  commenting on Fr  Mbaka, said the priest went overboard in his statement insinuating that President Jonathan’s administration has been plagued with ‘bad luck’ and poor performance.

Onaiyekan distanced the Catholic Church from Mbaka’s statement,  stating that, “Mbaka will take responsibilities for his own actions. I do not believe in my mind that the way things are in Nigeria, any Catholic priest has the mandate to decide which of the political contestants should be voted for. What most of us will do is to tell people to vote according to their conscience and then, we tell the authorities to allow people to vote freely and fairly.


“I wouldn’t be surprised if most people are not happy with the statement he made. From my reactions, you should see that I do not agree with him. I don’t believe a priest should be doing that.

“But, like I said, Mbaka is a priest of his own type. If he was in my archdioceses, I will have sanctioned him long ago for the kind of things and utterances that he makes. But, he is not under my diocese; he has a Bishop to handle that if there is any need,” the Cardinal observed.


Onaiyekan, rather maintained that Mbaka had earlier made insinuations  that President Jonathan’s wife, Mrs. Patience Jonathan, will continue in office.
“I hope that people are not thinking that we are sending Mbaka to talk rubbish, how can they think that? If you want to hear anything even not official but at least, authoritative, then, you listen to the bishops. Rather than him and I don’t see any bishop talking that way.”

Meanwhile, President of the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria (CBCN), Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama, said Nigerians should avoid hasty generalisation, as the statement of one Catholic priest cannot be taken to represent the voices of more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria.

Kaigama told THISDAY that though Mbaka could not have been speaking for the Nigerian Catholic Church, Nigerians should avoid making unguided statements and hasty generalisation on national issues like the 2015 general election.

“There are more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria, Fr Mbaka is just one Catholic, if he makes a statement, it cannot be the voices of more than 30 million Nigerian Catholics speaking.

“So Nigerians should avoid hasty generalisation. Mbaka cannot speak for the church, only the CBCN can speak for the church. Those who are complaining, should go to Fr Mbaka and find out why he is saying what he is saying,” Kaigama said.

The CBCN President informed THISDAY that it is completely out of place for a Catholic priest to be partisan.

“I tell you,  even the Canon Law forbid a priest  to engage in partisan politics,” Kaigama told THISDAY.

Asked if there would be punitive measures meted out to Mbaka, Kaigama said:  “If the law has  been abused, we will ensure that we enforce the law. In this case, it is not the Catholic church; the church did not send him to say those things.

“Mbaka belongs to a diocese, so if the Bishop finds out that he has fallen out of line, the  Bishop can call him to order,” he said.

“Mbaka is just expressing his opinion, if we want to make a political statement, we know how to do it. That we keep quiet and  we are  marginalised, does not mean we don’t have strength. With more than 30 million Catholics,  we  have the  strength,” Kaigama submitted.

The Archbishop of Jos argued that there was no public uproar when the same Mbaka assured the first lady of continuity.

Fr. Mbaka has come under intense condemnation following his sermon last week, lampooning Jonathan’s administration for poor performance.

His  comment had elicited public outcry, especially, among the teeming Catholic population in South-east and South-south parts of the country where President Jonathan has a strong support base. http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/i-ll-sanction-mbaka-if-he-s-under-my-diocese-says-onaiyekan/198424/

The bolded statements above tell me what I need to know about the boldness displayed by Reverend Mbaka in his volte face

The truth is that no priest of the catholic church will speak so boldly without the support, tacit or direct, of the senior clergy.

Impossicant!!!

persius555:
Ever since Men of God either openly make remarks with political undertones or get directly involved in politics, they end up with a sour taste(pastor bakare and rev chris okotie are a witness to this). Simply put, politics and religion just dont mix, just as oil and water dont. Split PDP into two, the other half is APC.

That is the LIE we have been told so many times that we have also began to believe it.

Politics and religion don't mix so the unrighteous contest and win elections, ruling with impunity.

They walk into churches, seize the pulpit and deliver politically charged speeches during elections...but politics and religion don't mix they tell us.

No! We will no longer accept that hogwash!

customized13:
APC is trying everything they can to get to ndigbo, they need southeast if they want to win the election.

Its a pity mbaka is now a tool of political manipulation.

The PDP wasn't trying all they could to get the votes of the South East when Mrs Jonathan visited the adoration ground with senior PDP apparatchik and received at the time, the reverend gentleman's endorsement on behalf of Mr. President right?

@OP

It is a bit naive to believe a quote you saw on the PDP's fan page on Facebook.

For your information, WS never issued that speech.

All these clowns in power!!

They try to ridicule Obasanjo in public and then sneak to Ota to grovel and beg under cover of night.

This clown of a minister is calling out Obasanjo and accusing him of treason but is silent about an Asari Dokubo and other supporters of the PDP who have openly threatened war on the nation.

Ironic that a statement accusing another of paying for popularity on social media is issued by a man serving as a "special adviser on social media." A man whose bread and butter rides on whipping up pro-government sentiments on social media. A man who is known to create phantom pseudonyms to fight off anti - government opinions on social media.


2nd base o jare!!!

I will make my comments after they commence their "mosque to mosque" campaign for Jonathan....

I marvel at the way Jonathan seizes the pulpit of various churches every Sunday to make far reaching political statements and campaign for votes.

Yet Buhari is the one that gets accused of trying to ride on religious sentiments to win elections even though he has never been reported to have made a campaign speech in a mosque or a church.

Na wah o.

Comsol:
Okay thanks dude. Maybe politicians should learn how to guide their tongues when talking to supporters. This is because it’s not what you intend to say or say that matters, it’s what people hear.

Politicians definitely need to be much more circumspect in their speech to avoid been misunderstood.

Comsol:
What was Buhari doing with that spear in the video?

Say NO to violence

That is not a spear. That is a pen....The symbol of the now defunct CPC on whose platform Buhari contested the 2011 elections.

Buhari in the excerpt urged the people to vote and monitor their votes till the votes are counted and results announced. He then said if anyone tries to prevent them either from voting or monitoring their votes, such a person should be destroyed.

"Ku halaka su" directly translated to English means "destroy them."

It is manifestly different from "Ku kashe su" which means "Kill them!"

Buhari called for the people to defend their votes by all means....not to kill anyone.

Buhari has never hidden the fact that he is a devout Muslim. Now I understand the need for his detractors to continue to paint him falsely as a religious fundamentalist whose only agenda is to Islamise Nigeria in order to gain political mileage.

But to think that some of you actually believe that nonsense is upsetting to say the least.

Buhari, had a muslim deputy and was in absolute control of the nation for 20 months. He did not Islamise Nigeria then.

How then is he suppose to achieve that now, in a democracy....even if that was actually his ambition

Congratulations to the Ekiti people who got a share of the governor's largesse. I hope they won't have to wait till next Christmas to get another one.

Dunno how true but I hear all okada men now get 15 litres free petrol everyday from designated petrol stations.

What is happening in Ekiti is shocking to say the least.

The level of ignorance on this nairaland.com is alarming. I wonder if you people know the amount of education and training that goes into making a General in the Nigerian Armed Forces....or any armed forces anywhere in the world.

Military people usually get to attend some of the best schools in the world. One of the best tertiary institutions in Nigeria for instance is the Defence Academy in Kaduna. Soldiers graduate from there with a degree and go on to attend various A. Rated training programmes all over the world.

Your average Nigerian military officer (commisioned) is exposed to the kind of education and training some of you can only dream of but won't ever be able to achieve.

OP is here asking if Buhari, a retired military General and a decorated war hero has a degree

People are responding describing Buhari as an illiterate

So much ignorance I tell you.

olyivy:
Thats the point. PDP is not GEJ or FG. GEJ cannot be responsible for everything FG says, like APC and its government officials. If the president came out and openly accused a governor of sponsoring Boko Haram, it will be a scandal of the highest order.

The other link said SSS cleared Ihejirika and Former Governor Sherif who is PDP and not Current Governor Shettima who is APC.
Are you now Sheriff fan?


Please give me the proof of where GEJ/FG accused Borno Governor of being Boko Haram sponsor or where SSS cleared him of being one!

Noooooo why will they clear him? The DSS only clears new found friends of the president who happened to be in power at the advent of the Boko Haram scourge.....like Modu Sheriff. The same one who is now a member of the PDP and walking around with about 200 Nigerian soldiers guarding him.

If Shettima wants to be cleared by the DSS, he only needs to hop on the GEJ 2015 train.

Does this mean we will soon see a rash of "prisoner pardons" across the country?

But seriously though, I look forward to seeing the first public official to take his campaign to the prison yard.

That would be something.

morefire:
haba this has to be one of the most laughable things i have read today on naira land...

i once read a post on here that said all PDP governors were rogues and it exempted APC and APGA... i argued that day that any Governor that wants wants to work will do so regardless of the party... I made mention to Akpabio, i said Rotimi did well has a PDP governor, I mentioned Uduagan...

but no APC people took me on very well... i rested my case

today someone writes the achievements of Rotimi and am looking at that list over 90% was done as a PDP governor which goes to support my claim again so i asked a question and you decided to bring a dimension into it...

well i have gotten what i was looking for thanks

Ok first of all, I am not a member of the APC...though it isn't like there is anything wrong with having party affiliations.

Secondly, if you once held a position that a public official's performance transcends party lines, hold on to it because it is the right position.

Nairaland is an anonymous public forum of people from diverse political, socio-cultural and religious extractions. It would be foolish to lose yourself in all of the madness that goes on here.

chemali:
This is the link(it's not a download yet): http://www.apcpressreleases.com/the-apc-manifesto/

Ok thanks.

I don't trust the DSS in this matter.

I would rather wait for Shakau to issue a statement clearing Modu Sheriff.

Until then, he remains a terrorist sponsor in my book.

Seems to me like the President's media team is tacitly bent on sabotaging his re-election ambition.

What with all this "foot in mouth" statements they are releasing left, right and centre.

Someone really needs to call them to order.

@ OP

Please do you have a download link for this document?