₦airaland Forum

Northern pastors why are you negotiating your calling for N3000, N5000, N50000 and more with Politicians? Are the political arenas the kingdom you are working for?

Kennywills7:
Shameful acts of our pastors
They Don't focus on d work of God rather They dive into politics and look for ways to deceive d unsuspecting masses

Everyone should by now open his or her eyes very well and vote his or her conscience. Sometimes ago governor Amaechi alleged that some pastors collected money from PDP, now it is from Buhari and APC. Haba! Greedy politicians are dragging pastors into politics for want of votes. Have they forgotten Christ's instruction that they can't serve God and mammon, they should stand firmly and choose who they want to listen to and serve, God or politicians. These politicians are out to use them and in the end invalidate their mandates.

May God give Nigerian army victory over the enemies within and outside the country. All forces of saboteurs shall soon be destroyed

Toktee:
At this time?
Ha,jonathan always taken decission at the wrong time,even this one will affect his re-election.

Any attempt to build strong and healthier nation on the long run should not be scuttled by personal ambition of anyone. Though nothing good comes easily, government should thread softly so that the present level of poverty is not increased

BlueMagic2:
Clueless Nation

you mean nothing can work? probably many things could have worked if oil money has not blocked our sense of reasoning and the need to prepare for a tough time like this. Supposing all oil wells suddenly dry up nobody will help our clueless mindsets to start picking ideas from various sources.

meshacha1:
Come what may, who have you decided to vote for?



APC - change hit like
PDP - transformation hit share

so it is now fierce struggle btw APC - Change and PDP - Transformation.

All policies that will make the country move forward are welcome. I think implementation of some packages of report of national conference will also contribute enormously to progress and development we are clamouring for.

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nice one.

[quote author=Clerverly post=30654247][/quote]It is very true that truth is bitter. Tell us when people of dubious characters become saints. ki won ye fi breadi ko wa lobe je mo...

All these politicians with their tricks and 24 hrs struggles to be relevant always. Now that OBJ and the likes have suddenly become saints... Their struggles are mainly about who controls oil blocks from 2017.

Solange3:
"Born again" dats wat we al want. But like d bible, "wolves in sheeps clothing"

born again for what? Good or bad? The man is not in his right sense? Maybe he has been initiated to secret association.

zaedd:
Why chadian and camaronian soldeirs kills more Boko Haram than Nigerian soldiers?

majority of the membership of boko haram are from Northern Nigeria, and majority of Nigerian army are Northerners, therefore sabotage might have been the most limiting factor.

Fulani herdsmen and boko haram have the same poisonous blood running in their veins. Anywhere they go they kill and destroy.

hmmm... How many members do those beasts have? Cameroon, Niger, Nigerian and Chad... all kill them in hundreds, they are not yet finished. That is the problem of giving birth to bastard. They will never live as normal human beings. The North is now battling alimajiris who have successfully transformed to boko haram.

omenka:
The kind of dangerous politics Jonathan keeps playing is one which is guaranteed to see to the complete obliteration of this country.

I believe this is just another plot to get at Buhari. AIT would write a threat letter, address it to itself, and after the general public is sufficiently aware of the existence of such a letter from some "pro-Buhari Group", they (AIT/Presidency) go ahead and execute the final act of their sinister agenda by bombing AIT's facilities and making sure a few staff are killed, then blame the incident on Buhari's supporters who had earlier "threatened to deal with AIT" and by extension, blame it on Buhari.

Jonathan is unbelievably wicked at heart. He would burn this country to the ground just to realise his selfish ambition.

you people are of dubious character! so freedom of press is now an offense. let the press continue their good work. our happiness is in their ability to say the truth Without fear or favour in their reports. both Jonathan and Buhari are aspiring leaders who need our votes, but before that time we must know their strengths and weaknesses.

The press must be bold to state and raise issues for general discussion and public awareness. I have noticed for some times that when an issue that question Buhari's personality is being raised someone like you and few others will try to close the chapter. With the freedom of press all deeds... past and present should be exposed. They must keep us abreast of happenings in pdp and apc camps.

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Change2015:
Don't get it twisted. The point is simple, and you even acknowledge it even as you call it 'fair play'. Our faith foes not call for pilgrimage. Whatever Nigeria does thereafter does not make it a christian act or duty. Instead of insisting that government hands off such enterprises, you see the possibility of 'getting you own share'. That is the tragedy of Nigeria. The momentum is always in the wrong direction. People always looking for their share in preference to doing what is sensible and proper.

Government should be about fair play and seeing what is good for goose also flowing to gander. It's about equity and justice.

Pls don't mind what I deleted from you post.... until it has meaning to all...

tonychristopher:
what are yorubas doing about this killings in their land by fulani

They will just discuss and drag issues until both parties are tired out, and later the Crisis will be swept under the carpet. While the Fulani can pursue the case with one or two heads of cattle the farmer may have nothing remaining in the farm aside what the household will consume for the season.

@ op, getting to know about all that you must be a good and understanding wife, the joy of a good husband. Anyway you teach both young women and men who are preparing to live together as husbands and wives good lessons which they should understand to keep the relationship working. Love, understanding and supporting each other are very crucial for success of a family life.

I like young woman with reasonable approaches to complex issues that require sense of maturity to deal with.

Change2015:
I understand your point but I still insist that pilgrimage is not a christian requirement. Why must we say if one religion does it, we must get our share? That is the Nigerian attitude, not Christianity talking. And for sure, I support Buhari’s call to end all government involvement in such matters. In fact I do not even consider that the government should have any regard for the state of religion whether good or bad. People that can't provide ordinary electricity want to advise you on spiritual matters? Not their business at all.

see your response, so to you fair play is irrelevant. Why are you wasting your time shouting CHANGE if justice and equity are not meant for all.

Change2015:
I am a christian, but what I suspect is that it was Christians who went to government and said, if you are sponsoring Muslims on pilgrimage to mecca then we too want to be going to Jerusalem. The Muslim faith calls for pilgrimage, if the person is able (within their own means and not by government subsidy I'm sure), but what I see is the tit for tat blackmail that is destroying Nigeria. Why should we say we want our share of a bad idea? As someone else has already pointed out, the implications are that one day we will be paying for Mormons to go to utah, USA, and hare krishna to go to India. What Christians should have said from the beginning is that government should not ever finance the private faith of individuals.

when did that happen? Or may I ask when exactly government was trapped to be sponsoring pilgrimage in Nigeria? We might not know the time probably we were not born, but this time around we must rise to set the government free from religious bondage.

mickeymimi:
Bros Nigeria as a secular nation is made up largely of highly developed and diversified religious groups. Apart from Christianity and Islam, which are the most widely practised, there are numerous local faiths grouped together as Traditional Religions or Traditional/Oriental and they do have their own festive period just like the Christians and Moslems.

Religious Groups such as
- Orunmilia
- Secret Societies (Egungun Group)
- Eckankar Group
- The Hare Krisha Movement, and Bahai Movements
- Brotherhood of the Cross and Star or Olumba Olumba Obu Movement
- others

For equity and fair play, it is right to consider other religion when sponsoring pilgrimage. Otherwise it shouldn't be done at all. the issue of a person's faith or religion is personal and should not have anything to do with government.

Just as I have argued times without number, religion is personal decision to serve whoever or whatever is believed as the Creator and Redeemer. I wouldn't know why public funds should be wasted on personal projects. If it is the constitution that allows doing so, such constitution is deficient and needs urgent amendment.

Change2015:
You are missing the point. When did pilgrimage become a part of Christian faith, that is what I ask? Do American Christians, British, French, Italian, Brazilian, Chinese, south African, etc, do they consider it a part of their faith to visit Jerusalem? Where in the bible is it recommended?

What I am trying to explain is, whether pilgrimage is part of faith or not, should it be responsibility of government to sponsor it?

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evangelism is part of my faith as Christian, and pilgrimage is part of your faith as Moslems and both need money to be relevant as the key pillars of faith. Now is the government sponsoring evangelism (Christian spiritual pillar) the way Moslem journey to Saudi Arabia is being sponsored? If justice can't be done between the two, the government should better stop being partial.

We have successfully done evangelism without demanding from the government, we have expected government to spend such money on public needs, which is still part of evangelism.

Maybe State's budget should be prepared henceforth to finance 1 Evangelism and 2 Moslem pilgrimage, with equal amount every year.

nifton:
l wish i was in batch A.Dis volatile polls for no jam me.

Don't worry God is in control. You can run for your dear life if you see danger coming ahead.

Funjosh:
Ok

GEJ/FG organizing and disorganizing everything

Can't understand you. You mean they should not pass out at the expiration of NYSC year? I wish someone well and very good job on getting back home. Some may wish for extension of Service time but the real challenge will always be there... Labour market.

Change2015:
Perfect!
I'm even wondering who started this pilgrimage for Christians business or if it is just a case of you chop I chop based on religion.

THAT'S WHY SPONSORSHIP OF PILGRIMS TO ISRAEL AND MECCA SHOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT.

ASKING FOR WHO STARTED CHRISTIAN PILGRIMAGE IS THE SAME AS ASKING WHO STARTED MUSLIM PILGRIMAGE.

THE ONLY WAY GOVERNMENT SHOULD COMMIT MONEY TO SPIRITUAL NEEDS OF PEOPLE IS THROUGH EDUCATION ON RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES, and by securing peaceful environment that accommodates right to worship and express one's religious views.

panch001:
How does pilgrimage affect our GDP? Nonsense!!

Majority of the people are tax payers, let's the government begin to sponsor all people on pilgrimage you will see within few years GDP will reduce to nothing. Using the public money to sponsor pilgrims is like robbing Peter to pay Paul. Those nations are wealthier and influential than Nigeria, still we impoverish ourselves to make them richer. Pilgrimage and Tourism should be in the same category and must not be sponsored by government except for official reason, and with minimum cost.

How many of the Northern States, even others can survive the sponsorship purely on internally generated revenue?

LRNZH:
GMB's position is clear.... Gov't has no business sponsoring pilgrimage, be it Muslim or Christian.

Nigeria and misplaced priorities since PDP 1999.

mavinc4u:
My people perish because they lack wisdom and knowledge.

All in the name of trying to paint GEJ black, some people were busy displaying their stupidity. If people cannot understand a clear message as this, I wonder what is left in their brains.

The message says; CAN president brought a christian pilgrimage issue to GEJ telling him that Northern Governors did not sponsor christian's pilgrimage and GEJ handled the issue professionally by telling the CAN president that economy might have caused it and he also narrated some options they are looking at as regards to sponsoring any pilgrimage.

You guys should remove the cowebs of hatred and read the message again

Our constitution should be free of religious bias that promotes bigotry. Sponsoring of pilgrimage to either Israel or Saudi Arabia should be stopped. The millions of Naira being wasted on the exercise could have been used to strengthen economy and provide jobs for the youths. Also, the constitution should not promote sharia while other religious laws are disregarded. Allowing that will never guarantee a stable country of our dream.

Those saying Jonathan is destroying the country with religion are not truthful. So he shouldn't expose the injustice and seek for correction. Both Christians and Muslims of the North make the States and contribute to State's treasury for economic development. Why should the government be partial on the needs of all?

lastpage:
Look at all these "omo Yiibos" crying more than the bereaved!

Wonders shall never end o! When did Yiibo tribal Bigots like you become sympathetic towards the cause of Yorubas?

Okay, you want us to vote for your clueless and inept "Azikiwe Ebele", abi?

Not in your dreams. He would be sent packing come April 28.


Lastpage!

Those herdsmen are increasingly waxing stronger in strength with their mass exodus from the North and relocation to the south, esp southwest. From Oke Ogun to Ibarapa they have destroyed farmers' farms and killed members of their families. As the wicked action continues, people and the government appear to be clueless. Here they are wasting lives and destroying agric based economy, many people are not concerned. In the villages farmers are suffering, people in the cities are occupied with politics. Whether it is good to play with lives of people for selfish political interest?

This is serious issue. We should stop playing politics oh.

smokeyupu:
Let's be mindful of statements we make on social platforms like this. So where will the northern indigenous Christians go? U were wrong to think it's muslims against Christians / Southerners. Did you think the northern Christians will vote for Buhari? I'm sure you've never travelled through the north so you definitely don't have an inkling of the persecution these Christians have faced over the year. It is written "BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO ARE PERSECUTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS SAKE" . God is our deliverer and helper. Peace...

May God deliver you people and reward your patient and turn your sufferings to joy soonest. We are aware of your plights in the hands of those who want to deny your rights and chase you out of your father's land.

As you have stated... BLESSED ARE YOU FOR ENDURING THE PERSECUTION. Very soon your enemies shall be trampled and crushed in victory under your feet.

They say the report is propaganda and you people take it so serious. Come on, let's discuss new thing.