₦airaland Forum

Afam and the other Guy, no need to get unneccessarily worked up and insulting,leave such behaviour to kidz like bbk/baby,sjeezy and their likes. While I understand that U guyz were trying to be objective and unbiase, Ur judgemental tone and hasty assumptions betrayed it. It is pointless carrying on like this is some battle to be won, admit it that the two of U started off on the wrong notion with Ur comments. The other guy even tried to downplay and trivialize the issue by implying that since similar incident has occured in our own country and some random neighbouring country, it should die a natural death and be given a decent burial. Need I remind U two that this is about fairness, justice and accurate reportage, not some political ideology where mere logic and political knowledge are used to explain and make arguements. When I first read about this story, the polish police spokesperson first claimed that the deceased scuffled with the policeman for his gun and in the process got shot,they even painted a picture of a hostile mob pelting them with stones without provocation, then I read another version from thesame polish police dept claiming this time, that the deceased was shot dead when the handgun of the policeman went off with the deceased pinned to the crowd and a hostile crowd trying to lynch the policeman. Now, reading all these conflicting reports only points to one fact-sb is trying so hard to distort the truth of what really happened- and that is where lies the core of the issue not all these sophist arguements that U,Afam and texazpete have been making here all the while. Even when snowdrop tried to expose and show U the folly in those claims, U pair were more interested in coming across as the most discerning of the "pack" of us that saw the murder for what it is. Yes, anyone can claim Nigerians ve the worse vices U can ever think of, it is their opinion and that in itself is open to debate but to use that as a pretext to form the basis of Ur arguements and make hasty assumptions and close-end arguement is cruel and myopic. The two of U make it look like objectivity is all about not taking sides with Nigeria even when there is an open case of injustice. Am even surprised that Afam of all ppl will be towing this line of arguement even after Joaana T who obviously has more and better information on the issue pointed out to U that there was neither a scuffle for the policeman's gun nor was the deceased in any flight of escape, U arrogantly continued thesame arguement and later descended to antagonism. Seriously guyz, it will cost U noting to admit it that U started off on the wrong notion and stop splitting hair. Abeg U and that Texazpete guy should slow Ur rolls and stop being unneccessarily combative, discernment and objectivity are the two words that ve evaded all Ur posts on this particular thread. At least, the two of U should respect the fact that an innocent man died here and the fact that it has some racial undertones should make anyone shudder in contempt and condemn it.

makajibbz:
hey bros,
there's no need for insults here,dnt get personal, this post is for you to speak what you have in your mind as an opinion, and i this is what you have to say to defend your opinion then you have nothing in your mind,
too bad,

i am going to iterate what that guy said, OP, na Ur family plus U be disgrace. . .fackin loser that is tryinna blame his losing streak on sb. . Oloriburuku omo jati jati . . Wetin dey worry all these nigerian husslerz wey dey abroad. . Geeeze. . Are tryinna make Urself feel like a white man?! . .now as I see why they call Ur likes monkies. .cos d moment U eat Mc Donalds or Kentucky fried Chicken, U begin to hallucinate. . .facking diasporeans with their infernal wanna-be rants

Abagworo:
akwaibom and crossriver are only comparable to ebonyi and enugu.imo,anambra and abia are way ahead of them.rivers is the eastern lagos and is suffering thesame neglect from fg as other eastern states.portharcourt has everything lagos has and even more but has been deliberately neglected by federal government.

thank U very much my brother, I like it when umu nna argue like this, rather than resorting to needless tribal war, although I kind of like it when mekusxx take some of these tribalists to the cleaners by playing their own game with them. However, intellectual response like this thread and Ur brilliant contributions presented with fact and good logic is way more effective in shutting tribalists up. . Now they know how not come at Okoro with lame arguement. . Lol. . Seriously, I saw that thread about igbo states laggin behind, I just hissed. . Another diasporan eating Mc Donald and drinking coke in his room and mouthing off in enjoyment. . Lol. . Person wey neva reach east before sef wan gist shiit. . .i ve been to many SW states, i am resident in Lagos and I school in the east, I ve been to almost all the SE and SS states except for a few, so sb coming up on the net to make such a claim is pointless to me. . .thanks again for Ur insightful contributions, U and a few otherz make me proud with Ur brilliance. . Keep it Up!

Many of these NL Nigerians abroad are begining to annoy me with the way they treat cases that involve their own. How can anyone try to imply that because of the riot in Jos and xenophobia in SA, we should shut up and eat the humble pie. . Scheeew. . Some of these diasporans sef, una dey tire person with una arguement and logic. . Anyway, na una saka sha, after all shebi dis one na one of una, make una dey claim liberal until dem go take style exterminate una finish there, shebi we are not supposed to complain. . I wont be surprised if the likes of Kobojunk come up in here and become the self appointed DA of the Polish Police department.
I ve read two versions of this particular story already, and they are totally different, this shows that there is a deliberate attempt to paint the picture in a way that puts the Polish police in good light and the the murdered Nigerian, a criminal. Who in their right senses will want to struggle with a police officer for their gun, imagine them trying to insinuate that they were pelted with stones and bricks at the market without any provocation, I wonder what kind of monster the Polish police is that a mere sight of their presence could evoke so much hate from the crowd. This whole story has racial prejudice written all over it and we must condem it and demand for justice, irrespective of whether worse has happened in our own country or in another african country, things like this are bound to happen anyway.

That is the modus operandi of Nairaland relationships, there was even a case of a female member sending nude pictures of herself to the BF of another female member. . .they even went to the extent of exposing private conversations, it was very pathetic. . .imagine meeting such ppl in real life, na straf na im go just dey ya head no be anything serious. . .

Hahaha. . . Lelele. . I ve got more important things to occupy my time than school U on the imperative of understanding simple grammar and language structure. How I choose to represent my pronouns is my colloquial discretion, it does'nt render my grammatical construction wrong but what does a dunce like U know? If U can argue that pronouns can't start with capital letters, one can only imagine how arrogantly ignorant U are. My ol pal used to say to be ignorant of one's ignorance is the greatest malady of being il-litrate.I make no claim of being a literary Giant but with U?. . Damn I am already feeling like one. . Lol. . Dont even talk shiit about being in your non-existent league. .lol. ."U are so not intelligent". .no be your type. .e nugo??. . Now make I go get ready for my gurl jare. . Lol. . U can continue mouthing off and throwing temper tantrums like a 5yr old. . Hahaha. . Am feeling entertained. .

I dont know much about the American justice system but here in Naija this is 1st degree murder. I strongly doubt the defence can actually come out of it unscathed irrespective of whatever his DA pleads. However, he can actually go with a very light sentence if in addition to pleading provocation and temporary loss of insanity and control caused by walking in on his wife and another man making out in their matrimonial bed: his DA plays on the sense of moral decency of the judge and portrays the defence as a hardworking and dutiful husband who loves his wife so darely to a fault. The worse thing to plead hear is self-defence cos obviously, everyone knows the defence was not attacked, neither did the subject come at him with the intent to cause any physical harm. Since according to the defence, the wife went out for the door(note he didn't make any attempt to stop her) seconds after he forcefully let himself in but when the subject tried to make thesame attempt, a fierce fight ensued subsequently leading to the subject's death. Am not a lawyer but i know well enough not to plead for liniency based on this scenerio cos it surely wont swing, the judge would conclude the subject was killed by the defence in an uncontrolled fit of rage, to even think that he had the time to get a knife worsens his case, self defence is a no-go area in this particular case.
But the defence has a couple of stuff going on for him in this case: first, the assault on moral decency that the DA will stir up in the judge, secondly, the fact that defence sounds remorseful and sounded forgiving when he talked about his wife being faithful until hitherto and lastly, the fact that the judge is married and understand the sanctity of marriage. Fact is that Nigerians may not be the most morally upright people, but they sure know how to frown at immorality in a way that will make angel gabriel green with jealousy.

harakiri:
@Post

Yet another reason why marriage sucks!

On a more serious note, who is to blame here really? The strange man or the wife? If there is anybody that should be killed, it's the wife not the guy. . .she wasn't r.aped or anything.She opened up her legs for him.The dead guy was taking advantage of the situation.I may never marry but even if i do someday and i see someone else bionking my wife, i will never kill for any reason.Why? It's not worth it. Why should i stain my hands with blood for someone who cheated on me in the first place and on top of that, i'll either be given the death penalty or spend the rest of my life in prison.NOBODY is worth such a sacrifice.It would even be a relief for me that i have an excuse to kick her ungrateful butt outside.

Gbam! Wooord! My brother. . .why will I want to risk doing time for a slut. Aint like she was being raped!

Scheeew. . . Are people this bored? Nairaland just dey fly from bad to worse. . .* sighs loudly and walks outta the lame thread*

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=449644.msg6074879#msg6074879 date=1274489206]Interesting times ahead.

Read the rest of the story here: http://www.tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/front-page-articles/1137-pdp-plots-jonathan-presidency.html[/quote]it is true that during their primaries, the so-called gentleman agreement does not always apply but we all know that in their actions and the end of those phony put-up shows they call primaries, the end result usually reflects the dumb gentle man agreement. So if all of a sudden they now feel it is not binding on any1 or want to jettison the agreement, I say go ahead. I see disaffection and some killer plots brewing up that will mark the end of PDP or at least greatly weaken them. I think it is high time these other unserious political parties took a bold step and form a formidable force that can wrestle power out of PDP even though we all know that are not any better but the Nigerian polity would be for it. . Let us sit back and watch those greedy ba$tards undo eachother and tear down that evil cult of dishonourable men and women they call a political party. 4ck em Let the fish burn!

Lol. . . Am not goina say anything about her looks, the picture is not particularly a good one besides it's from the side. . . However, she kinda look like a regular gal, mehn, one woulda expected Ramsey to be married to some extra-ordinarily pretty chick but . . .

I just find it funny that a lot of us here think that One can actually be different in real life from their NL persona. . .that is shitload of cock & bull. . The real Us is the content of our thoughts and how we convey them, i doubt anyone can be randomly or entirely different from what they say, show me that bloke and let me hand him an Oscar for the best con-person. . .Fact is, we are bits and slices of the sum total of our logic,intelligence and idiosyncrasies. . i.e if for instance, someone always has traces of manipulating and bullying when making his arguements, there is a high possibility that in real life, U are going to have to deal with an egoist later on who gets his satisfaction from such. . .he might be nice the first three months or even longer but with time and objectivity U would see through all the niceties, clever trevias,funny wits, mechanical smiles and looks, the facade that has won him over. . .Like My Ol man will say, we are all pretenders until marriage happens. . .

johnterry4:
[size=16pt]@rhymz ,

GUY,PEOPLE ARE HERE ON NL TO HAVE FUN AND U DEY VEX ANYHOW.NA your WAHALA BE DAT O.U NO GET SENSE.I DONT KNOW D ELRAZUR GUY IN PERSON  BUT I KNOW HE IS A VERY FUNNY PERSON.HE JOKED  THAT HE DATED IICE.IICE SIMPLY LAUGHED IT OFF.SHE NEVER PICKED OFFENCE.WETIN D ELRAUR GUY DO U?U ARE JUST HATING HIM FOR NOTHING.U GO DIE FOR NOTHING O.WHY FIGHT HIM?FIGHTING HIM ON NL ONLY SHOWS DAT U ARE A KID.LOW LIFE IDIOTS LIKE U COME TO NL TO INSULT PEOPLE.WHAT A PITY![/size]

. . .nornally, I would ve paid U know mind coz in the scheme of things jerks like U do not count but just to set the records straight, I am going to shove this down Ur throat and bully U around , "the more tramps and morøns like Urself go into extinction, the better for the world". If U had controlled Ur idiotic outburst maybe Ur empty thick skull would ve forced U decipher who started hurling the insults before jumping into moronic hysteria. . .I dont ve time to explain myself to a goon like U, U and Ur joker mentor can fall down and die or crawl back to the gutters U live in. . The world is a better place without Ur likes. .

johnterry4:
[size=16pt]@rhymz ,

GUY,PEOPLE ARE HERE ON NL TO HAVE FUN AND U DEY VEX ANYHOW.NA your WAHALA BE DAT O.U NO GET SENSE.I DONT KNOW D ELRAZUR GUY IN PERSON  BUT I KNOW HE IS A VERY FUNNY PERSON.HE JOKED  THAT HE DATED IICE.IICE SIMPLY LAUGHED IT OFF.SHE NEVER PICKED OFFENCE.WETIN D ELRAUR GUY DO U?U ARE JUST HATING HIM FOR NOTHING.U GO DIE FOR NOTHING O.WHY FIGHT HIM?FIGHTING HIM ON NL ONLY SHOWS DAT U ARE A KID.LOW LIFE IDIOTS LIKE U COME TO NL TO INSULT PEOPLE.WHAT A PITY![/size]

. . .nornally, I would ve paid U know mind coz in the scheme of things jerks like U do not count but just to set the records straight, I am going to shove this down Ur throat and bully U around , "the more tramps and morøns like Urself go into extinction, the better for the world". If U had controlled Ur idiotic outburst maybe Ur empty thick skull would ve forced U decipher who started hurling the insults before jumping into moronic hysteria. . .I dont ve time to explain myself to a goon like U, U and Ur joker mentor can fall down and die or crawl back to the gutters U live in. . The world is a better place without Ur likes. .

Ordinarily, Ruggedy need not worry but when one puts one and two together U need no soothsayer to tell U who 9ice was talking about. . .and to even think that he had it all planned out by putting in a song and making it the selling pointing of his latest LP tells a lot about the way he values friendship and marriage. All the while U know she is a bitch, she has probably dated every1 in the industry, U didn't mind, perhaps becoz she was the sole sponsor of Ur career at that time; that to me sounds like a schemer to me. 9ice of course has insecurity problem and from the phone conversation, he sounds like a man who is acting up all friendly with a person he abhors. . Ruggedy is in the right with his action, if 9ice is actually not refering to him then let him use thesame time it took him to sit to compose the song and even announce his break-up-scheming bastard-just when he was abt to drop his akala music album, he sure knows how to creat buzz at other ppl's expense. . Ruggedy is an artist just like him, keeping mum might affect his own album too. . If he is sure he was not referring to Rugged, let him come out and clarify coz as it is, Rugged is the one taking the heat not 9ice. . Accusing sb of infidelity with someone else's wife is not a matter to be handled with kid-gloves. . .let him come out and stop making otherz look bad all becoz he wants to sell records or does he want to start playing riddles with other ppl's career and life . .

Exactly my point! Why will anyone with their self-esteem intact want to date a person who most likely doesn't ve a job, curse with the speed of light without any provocation and spend most part of their productive time on NL spewing mumbo-jumbo and massaging their bruised ego with an artificial make-over life a majority of NLanders try so hard to portray here?. .why will i want to do that? That is too much un-needed drama, the closest that I ve come to a member here was helping the person with some documents and stuf. . Anything besidez that is pure dumb headaches. . If i so need a date, am very sure Nl is one place i wont be looking at for that. . .dont want to meet jobless Cyber-prowlers like the goon that callz himself Elrazu who bandy gibberish like he eats brain tumour. . .When was the last time anyone had a decent conversation on this forum? All I see here are dump racial/tribal threads rife with Nl's creme de la creme whose stock in trade is tribal/racial buffeting or even the pathetic romance thread that every 10yr old livin in slums and ghetto abroad has hijacked and turned into some sexual fetish. . Abeg this place is full of shitty characters, characters U would only want to fraternize with in Ur house in front of a screen not sitting with them at a table or bar in a rendezvous that will be taking a dumb risk that even the devil himself wont dare. . .

ElRazur:
Chop shiiit. Big dark brown smelly ones with undigested beans inside it.


Nah REAL PEOPLE dey behind all these user name you see. Yeye man.

U are a Bona Fide idiot in capital letterz. . .

Jenibayo
U re boring. . . Abeg make me sef waka jare! Wat a Bore. . .

ElRazur:
I dated iice and right now I can tell you she is a good cook, but rubbish in bed. 

date a nairalander? Na wa O. . Wetin happen with real chickz wey una dey see for Una area. . . Scheew. .

Can U pls explain in details how dis power booster worker.

That is the modus operandi na. . The spending is a way to convince her of Ur interest in her and that in later time, U would also not mind poppin her cherry. . .that is investment my dear. . .

Our-turn,
take it easy with curses, yeah, I know Sagamite sounded kindb rude though but mehn, Let us face the issues and 4get about unneccessary bickering. . In a way, I disagree with Ur logic of selective Justice, Ibori is a corrupt money bag with a lot of evidences against him. He has delibrately and consistently run away from answering to the charges brought against him. And I doubt if he has been released on bail like U claimed, no sane government will do such for the likes of Ibori. From what I read, The Uk and UAE signed an extradition pact in 2008, he will be extradited to the Uk where he will meet with true justice and face the music. I pray the fool goes to jail where he will be 4cked in the buttz by those $ex starved inmates and made sb's Prag. . That rogue deserves even worse. .

toshmann:
and let the people say . . . .AMEN!!!!!

One down! More to go. . IBB next. . What a sigh of relief. . . gudluck Jo!. . 4ck Turai! that biatch feelz my palate with bile. . . Let her go and rest, she made the man's death a long a tortuous death. . .

Sagamite:
^^^ Believe me, NTA and AIT can come to London and film any part of it without the need of a permit except filming government sensitive institutions.

Definitely they would not need a permit to film dump sites or slums (if there is any) or people on the beach.

Also it was actually a small production company that did the documentary and then sold it to BBC. What I am not sure about is if the BBC got engaged in the project before conclusion or after.

Well, what can I say? U re a resident there cant argue that with U, i just hope U re right sha coz the day wey me go go there with my own camcorder and stuff and start filming all the Ghettos and shitty places in England, if them catch me put inside sanko na U O!
But that is not to say I agree with those whitey tryinna equate the whole of Lagos to one huge hip of rubbish, Na wa O. . I stay in Lagos and I dont live in a dumpsite neither do I earn my living from there, the production company that did that needs a kinda spanking and BBC even bigger for turning a supposed great story into a story of ridicule. . I dont suscribe to the self-defeating mantra that it exposes the lack and want our leaderz put us through-yes that is true but I dont think that was the supposed good intention of the producers- I would not want anyone to describe me as the nigga from the dumpsite country coz that is not true.

Sagamite:
If you want to shoot strategic photos obviously you would have to get a permit.

When you say "strategic", I can only assume you mean places like MOD, Scotland Yard, 10 Downing Street, Ministries, Nuclear plant etc.

But if you want to film a refuse dump, people on the streets, slum neighbourhoods, highway, Thames river, mechanic, plumber, beggar, tayin tayin etc and make a documentary, you do NOT need any kind of government permit. Any Tom, Dele and Palochevski can film what he or she wants irrespective of passport type.

hahahaha. . . Saga Ur own no good O! See as U take put am. . Am lafin at the way U come put all those big names in London without mentioning any "Strategic" place in our beloved Lagos, chai!
Anyway, to a large extent, i follow Ur arguement, anyone does not need any permit for those, however, the gigantic BBC coming all the way with their media crew and equipment from England to take both photo and film shots with the intention of making a docummentry out of it is strategic, U know? NTA or AIT will need a permit to do what they did here in London or some place in England. Just imagine how the intimidating BBC crew with their equipment would ve patronized those poor guyz making a honest living 4rm the site. Making them believe they were actually trying to tell their story of resilience, hardwork and how it paid off, hence those innocent pictures. Only for the mofos to splash those pictures on the pages of their site and Captioned it: "Welcome to Lagos" equating the whole of Lagos to a dumpsite. . .And some fool here, in a bid to sound sophisticated and smart is trying to argue that the BBC got their claim of 11million ppl getting their livelihood from the dumpsite was probably the figure they got from the website of the FGN. How dumb can it get? Ppl just like to argue unneccessarily sha! Is that not nonsense? The official population of Lagos does not even support the myopic claim yet our see-nothing good in others except Urself KoboJUNK is up in arm to argue that. . .scheew

Nigerians abroad make me cringe with their sophist arguements, every arguement is an opportunity to dust up Ur certs and oyinbo Logic. . . Scheeew. I am even lost as to what the debate is all about.
Saga
U mean to seriously tell us that a bunch of media crew from any media house outside of the UK or US can fly in with their camera and equipment and start taking strategic photos and making documentry films without first, seeking permission to do so from the relevant authorities? Let us stop shooting ourselves in the foot, I dont live in the UK or US or any part of the western hemisphere but at least, i ve a fair idea of certain things that cant be done there. U probably stay in the UK and know a lot about their Laws and what is obtainable, so am not in a "who argues better contest" i just want us to speak with facts and without falling into the trap of wanting to sound more intelligent than others or logically superior. . .
Cap
i seriously am not getting Ur point!