₦airaland Forum

FrLukas:
I think Aba has overtaken Onitsha.

Nowenuse:
Go through this link and see the list of villages and towns in Kogi LGA.

https://nigeriazipcodes.com/4425/list-of-towns-and-villages-in-kogi-lga/

See many of them with names ending in BASSA & GWARI.
Apart from these vicious names to tell you the owners of these communities. I know of towns like Chikara & Tawari to be Gbagyi communities. There are many others there too.

I was in a Gbagyi forum one day and the question was asked for everyone to identify the names of their villages & LGAs. I was shocked to see the large number of people there listing many different communities in Kogi LGA as their villages.

Recently I was reading the history of the ethnic conflicts between Ebira koto (Egbura) and Bassa people in Toto LGA of Nasarawa state and I discovered that Egburas have always been in charge of district power to collect taxes from the Bassas since precolonial days, even though the Bassas were the majority and the Egburas were minority.
From what I am seeing, this could be what is playing out in Kogi LGA because this also plays out in neighbouring Abaji LGA of FCT. ....Gbagyis are there in good numbers, but the Egburas own the kingship system (Ona of Abaji).

nlPoster:
A recent write up said the rate of migration into Akure is at extremely high levels, people are moving there very fast. It is not known where most of the migrants are coming from.

I just saw an article which estimated the population of Akure to be 1.8 million by 2015. I don't know if that happened, but perhaps a new city should be created to absorb increasing immigration levels.

EmekaMD:
Do number of children by men and you'd be having crazy figures like 60s and 80s up in the north.

Guess where this kids end up?
Ur guess is as good as mine..

Nowenuse:
Just seeing this.

Hmm, I wonder why most people forget that Gbagyis exist in Kogi state. Gbagyis in Kogi state are more than 100k.
From Koton Karfe down till you get to Abaji in FCT, many of those towns and villages belong to Gbagyis.

From Koton Karfe down to Abaji, down to Nasarawa-Toto, Egbura & Gbagyi communities lie side by side.

Cc garfield.

Redomi:
Ondo Dialect is beautiful

1. Ọmọ-iton (Child).

2. Ẹghẹnjú (Eye ball)

3. Àghọ̀fẹn (Palace)

4. Uná (Fire)

5. Eìghọ̀ (Smoke)

6. Ẹgwà (Beauty)

7. Ayọ̀n (Sweetness)

8. Ù'é'é (Distance)

9. Àínọ́n (Mercy)

10. Ẹghènghẹ́n (Snow)

Iamgrey5:
He has responded tho

But I will tag you when he responds to my latest remarks.

Iamgrey5:
Even the little twisted history ipob thought you, you refuse to learn probably.

Ilorin is different from Kwara state.

In Kwara we have two Yoruba groups which are the igbominas and the ilorins ( that has history with Afonja)

Iamgrey5:
You won't know the truth if it even if comes visiting you

Iamgrey5:
Your problem is simply because you have spent a whole lot of time with igbos you begin believe their lies.

First of all, University of Ibadan started in 1948 as university of college Ibadan but it was actually a degree awarding university. Yaba tech which was established much earlier was an institution which awarded certificates not university college Ibadan.. (Note: there's difference between the first indigenous university and first university in Nigeria)

Secondly, can you please list the igbo educational achievers you are talking about, especially the ones that put Yoruba's educational achievers in second position.

Thirdly, the igbos have only five state in which they absolutely dominate by population elsewhere they are minority, whereas Yorubas dominante 7 states and are strong minority in kogi state. Hence, it is not uncommon to find three of igbo states (Imo, Anambra and Abia) topping jamb admission on most occasions followed by the remaining seven seven Yoruba states (Oyo, Kwara, Osun, Lagos, Ekiti, Ondo and Ogun state) .


Please bring out this overall ranking by states by various bodies, let us break them down into actual figures.

Like I said earlier, massage the Egos of igbos all you want but please stick to the facts alone and not hearsay.

Nowenuse:
UNN was the first full fledged university in Nigeria. This is one lie that has been busted. UI is not the first university in Nigeria. However, it can be called the first tertiary institution in Nigeria.

Igbos also have many pioneer academic achievers. I have seen the list of pioneer academicians in Nigeria and Igbos were very many on that list too.

The list of Jamb & WAEC registration and results by states and individuals have seen Igbo states ahead of Yoruba states since the last few years. Even overall ranking of literacy rates of states by several bodies have seen Igbos to be higher.
Ekiti state was always claimed to have the highest number of professors in Nigeria, but Imo state has more as we have seen.

MelesZenawi:
That's good.

You didn't list Nigerian territories of Yorubas.

As for Togo and Benin republic , those ones will return or you meet them there.

lx3as:
Is Itsekiri not Yoruboid language? What's the difference between 'Omotsola and Omosola or Omawumi and Omowumi'? I have two friends from the same community in Ekiti that have surnames: Ogunkuade and Ogunkọrọde (same meaning); there are another people with same meanings: Osakuade and Osakọrọde (Orisa has brought wealth); Adeluyi and Adeniyi, etc.
What you can argue is that, the 'w' in Adesuwa is most time silent in Yoruba's (Adesua). You can ask people in Eastern Yoruba states the meaning of names like "Olumilua" and several samples I already mentioned above. In Eastern Yoruba, 'owo - money' is 'egho, pronounced 'eo or eho'; when Itsekiri would say: mini/meni, meji; Ekiti would say: ini, eji; proper Yoruba: ookan, eeji. Uyọ̀̀(Ilaje), Ọyọ̀(Ekiti)̀=Ayọ̀ (the joy I have = uyọ meyọ/mẹyọ, ọyọ̀ meyọ/mọyọ = ayọ moyọ)̀. Adesuwa is a Bini name but it is also an Eastern Yoruba name. It's hard to find someone from Oyo state for example, having names like, Adesuwa, Osasọna, Adesọna (Ekiti/ Ondo states); what you'll have them bearing are Adesọrọ/Adesẹyẹ Oluwasewa/Olusewa, Adesewa. The Eastern and central Yoruba dialects respectively are older and deeper than the North Western Yoruba dialects; 'Ọnà and Okun' are deeper than 'ẹwà and pẹlẹ' (beauty and sorry).

Nowenuse:
Apart from the diaspora, can you mention one other aspect in which Binis are after the top 3 in Nigeria?
Unless of course you mean Edo as a state and not Bini as a tribe.

pazienza:
I lived in rural part of Ondo for nearly two years.
And yes! There are many Muslims in Ondo. You are simply playing the ostrich.
I don't have official stats, but that's how it seemed to me. It was a cultural shock to me seeing too many women on Hijab, especially that "Ninja" style of Hijab, in Akure metropolis.

Ilaje and Ese odo are mainly riverine communities, with culture close to Delta state.

Bottom line is that Yorubaland is an Islam enclave.
It's intriguing to an Igbo like me coming there for first time, considering how Yoruba pastors have commercialized Christianity. You would think Yorubaland is a Christian strong hold, when the opposite is the case.

Nowenuse:
Igbos in the 19 states of the north/middlebelt are not more than 5 million.

Nowenuse:
See Yakubu Gowon who is from Plateau, even a christian but he was born and bred in Zaria. He had hausa mentality and this was why he was the perfect tool used by the core-north to gain the support of middlebelters against Igbos in the civil war.
Till date, inspite of how Hausa fulanis fight our people, Yakubu Gowon will still preach one Nigeria.

This is the way Hausas effortlessly unite all Nigerian muslims by accomodating them and culturing them, spreading their soft power. Instead of Igbos to learn from this, they keep on arguing pointlessly and emotionally that everybody hates them.

Kano state has produced 2 non Hausa governors.
A Nupe man from Niger state and a Bura man from Borno state have ruled Kano state.
But among the Igbos, an Imo or Enugu man will not even be allowed to contest or rule Anambra, let alone a non-Igbo.

Nowenuse:
Yes I am very much aware of this. A huge chunk of the Yoruba christians in the north are from Okun. You see this belt, Nupe- Okun- Ebira- Igala- Idoma. They migrate like nonsense. More than half of them live outside their homeland.

But among them, I would say Ebiras have the highest. Ebiras have migrated and been living all over Yoruba land for a very long time in the rural areas, to the extent that these Yorubaland Ebiras have evolved a new unique identity for themselves.
They are called EBIRA OLOKO.
This is why when you say Ebiras are just 300k in the southwest, I just dey look you. Ebiras are the largest non indigenous minority group
In Yoruba land, followed by Tapa (Nupes).
You see a large chunk of Ebiras in Kogi state answering Yoruba names. These names usually came from Ebira Oloko influence through their returnees. Otherwise, how do you explain this?

pazienza:
Very true. People don't know this, or they want to play the ostrich. But Yorubas are predominantly Muslims.
Don't let their commercialized pastors in Lagos-Ogun express road deceive you, those lots seek out mainly gullible Igbo Christians to milk. They know most of their people are Muslims.

I have lived in rural Yoruba before and was shocked by that discovery. Too many mosques and Muslims everywhere. I was shocked.

Now do the maths, of the three dominant Ethnic groups in Nigeria, Hausa-Fulani are overwhelmingly Muslims, Yoruba are like 60% Muslims. Only the Igbo are the Christian core.

It's wishful thinking Nigeria is not a predominantly Muslim country, because it is.

pazienza:
I don't know who the Eggons are. But Chukwu forbid we be compared to any group in the North.

Pride and Arrogance ? I would say confidence. Cunningly? Far from it, an Igbo man is too obvious, direct and plain, that's even part of why we have problems in Nigeria. You must have confused us for another major Southern group known for this cunning trait.
Discriminating and unaccomodatimg ? Another misrepresentation. If anything Ndiigbo are too accepting of people and alien cultures.
Domineering? Maybe but it's usually through hard work and merit. Loud nature? Definitely. My people loud nature even makes me cringe.

All in all, your post perfectly illustrates while Ndiigbo should stop looking for non existent allies in Nigeria and instead concentrate on becoming stronger internally. You lots both Xtians and Muslims are no different in your perception of Ndiigbo.

Nowenuse:
Interesting.

Igalas take Kogi with pride, however, unlike the Tivs, they still emigrate a lot. Lokoja is not a big city with opportunities, so they still move to Kaduna, Kano, Abuja e.t.c

GODMALE:
All these ethnic groups without real social media plaform, if you go to YouTube, Facebook , instagram. You'll see hausa-fulani,igbos and Yoruba's movies, music's,wedding pages and other social forum stuffs.

The only ethnic group to have something similar is Benin, their Instagram wedding page is top 3 after Yoruba's, Hausa and Igbo's and Ibibio comes 4th.

They have their own movie production and you can even view i on YouTube, I tried to check if ijaw, urhobo etc have something similar but I was stunned, I tought ijaw has 15 million population so they can't act movies in ijaw language?

Even in diaspora forum, after the 3 major tribes Benin comes next in hosting occasions

Yujin:
It is not a fair analogy and you know it. Colonial records show Igbos with more population than Yorubas. Is it not so?

Yujin:
You're correct. We still have to consider the proportion of the densities when comparing both regions. The density in Igboland was about triple the average in other areas hence the earlier census done by the British showed Igboland as having the biggest population in Southern Nigeria.

Nowenuse:
Delta central is more cosmopolitan than Kogi east because places like Uvwie & Udu have merged with Warri and have many tribes living there. Same with Ughelli & Sapele towns.
Delta central is far far more urbanized unlike Kogi east.
How many immigrants are living in Ankpa or Anyigba? Everybody is Igala.

Yes, you also have Urhbos in Warri south and a small minority in Patani & Sagbama LGA in Bayelsa. However, Igalas have up to 6 towns in the SE/SS and some communities in Apa LGA of Benue state.

Lastly, Igalas migrate more than Urhobos as of today. Igalas are becoming intimidating in Abuja, they are also very many in Kaduna, Jos & Kano, they are in Igbo land too.
Urhobo migrants on the other hand only have strong populations in Benin villages & Ajegunle (Lagos).
Both tribes should be something very close to equal.

Nowenuse:
Of course, Esans can never match Bini population in Benin.
I was born and bred in Warri and I discovered that in Warri and Asaba and even PH, you will meet 5 esan people first before you meet 1 Benin person. Same thing with Lagos.

Benin people hardly leave Benin to anywhere else apart from Italy. Unlike Esans who move everywhere and are visible everywhere.

Same thing with the Afemais. Etsako (Auchi) people with their muslim religion are well represented in the north. You see them in Kaduna, Jos, Kano & Zaria.
The Akoko edos are very much in Yoruba land.

Are you people aware that so many Urhobos are living in Benin villages? All those Ovia areas down to Ore forests have many Urhobo and even Yoruba communities who dominate the Palm oil plantations. These people are not Benin people.

How about the Ijaws who have up to 10 towns in Ikpobha-Okha & Ovia villages? All those Siluko and Gelegele areas along the coast into Ondo state?

Benins cannot be up to half of Edo state. It is impossible. Where are the communities?


As for Ebira, how can you say Ebira Tao + Koto are 1 million? Are u aware that Okene was the most populated LGA in Kogi state in 2006 census? Only the Ebira migrants in Yoruba land are up to 1 million, let alone those in Kogi.

Ebiras are well represented in the north too, but so are Igalas, so it won't count much.

Yes, Ebiras of FCT and Nasarawa are not likely more than 200k. But those in Yoruba land, Edo state, Tao of Kogi central & Koto of Lokoja/Koton karfe are more than 2 million combined.

Wait, be sincere, how many Ebiras will you say are all over Yorubaland up to Kwara? I need a figure.

@GODMALE, you said Ebiras are not more than 50,000 in Edo state, are you aware that Igarras/Etunos who have the largest town in Akoko edo are also Ebira speaking people?
What about the Ebiras who I heard are now up to 30% of Ososo town and the majority in Aiyegunle?

Cc deadlytruth my Oshuku friend