Politics › Re: Prince Charles Meets Nigerian Traditional Rulers by scholes0(m): 1:27pm On Nov 07, 2018 |
Kayharry: Everyone sha want his or her traditional ruler at the front.Igbo people with problem forgeting that obi is just like baale of a village Chisos! |
Politics › Re: Nigerian Traditional Rulers Meet With Prince Charles by scholes0(m): 3:08am On Nov 07, 2018 |
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Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 5:04pm On Nov 06, 2018 |
fero007: the problem with many of these theories is there is no real proof supporting them, they are based on logical guesses which maybe true or false, there is no proof that itsekiris came from yoruba, they may be diff people who lost their language to yoruba for some reason, if you know the south south you'll know its not uncommon for tribes to lose their culture for a foreign one What is the proof that Itsekiri came from Yorubaland bawo? This discussion is spiralling out of control.  Our South South.  |
Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 2:50pm On Nov 06, 2018 |
Sinistami: Thank you o. Epie is more farther apart from Urhobo than Itshekiri from Yoruba. other than that I my self still think Itshekiri isn't Yoruba because language isn't the only thing to define an ethnic group. They entire culture and Traditions and worldview is very different from Yoruba and Closer to Its Neighbours Urhobos Ijaw and Edo etc. What is the Yoruba worldview? |
Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 2:28pm On Nov 06, 2018*. Modified: 12:59pm On Apr 15, 2023 |
fero007: thank God u know i said ethnic groups with CLOSE simliarities, ive lived in warri so i know dat apart from language (which is not even that close) they is no other cultural similarity btw itsekiri n yoruba. itsekiri are believe to come from bini lead by ginuwa, their customs are edo related, in terms of other aspects of culture, (food, dressing, dance, way of life) they re FAR FAR CLOSER to ijaw n urhobo sef than to yorubas Itsekiri relationship with Urhobo and Ijaw is ephemeral and lateral in nature. i.e it is as a result of the virtue of them being neighbors. It can also change at any time depending on the prevailing circumstances. Consider a scenario where itsekiris became a province in Western Nigeria, their visible culture would significantly shift more towards what you are referring to as the general Yoruba culture now, even if they will still retain some uniqueness. Take for example, even now, despite the fact that Itsekiris are not in the SW, many Itsekiris already wear Agbadas..... What you don't know is that to a large extent, people's material culture is also shaped by politics and regionalization, especially in a country like Nigeria. On the other hand, The Itsekiri relationship with Yoruba is more nodal/ vertical in nature...i.e (direct descent) and can never be changed. All the primordial villages and clans in itsekiri land came from Yorubaland, except perhaps the Royal Court. Itsekiris will simply be like their Ilaje brothers after 30 years in the SW, believe it or not. Apoi a lost Ijaw clan in Ondo state have become fully assimilated as Yorubas, and You think Itsekiri is so different from Yoruba culture, because they eat banga and starch, while Yoruba eat Okra and Eba? Or because Itseke women wear heavy coral beads while Yoruba women tie gele lol Now all that being said, when comparing Yoruba and itsekiri, the mistake you are making is comparg Itsekiri to OYO which is the face of Yoruba culture, being the hegemonic force in most of Yorubaland for centuries. That is understandable. The relationship between Itsekiri and certain Yoruba groups are much more obvious that others. Compare Itsekiri and Owo or Okitipupa for example it becomes much more visible. Moreso, Itsekiris do not come from Ginuwa, unless you are suggesting that ginuwa is older than Itsekiri as a people. Also what is the Yoruba world view pls? You seem to be suggesting that Yorubas as a people have a set world view.... Traditionally, we have monarchies, they have a monarchy, infact the traditional titles of more than a few cities in Yorubaland are Olus; Mushin, Ilaro and Igbokoda immediately come to mind. Clan chiefs in Eastern Yorubaland are known as Olojas, same in Itsekiri as Olajas. Our traditional religion believe in Eboras, Imales, Ifa/divinition Ogun, Olokun, Ayelala (in Ilaje and Ikale)... Etc. SAME obtains in itsekiri Those are the bone of a culture (LANGUAGE, Societal structure and Traditional RELIGION), every other thing you see are just meat. |
Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 11:51pm On Nov 05, 2018 |
fero007: ok u got it, it seems ur well versed on the subject so i'll lyk to enlighten us on the other similarities btw yoruba n itsekiri, bcuz dressing different, food very diff, music n dance diff, customs(edo lyk), so if u can teach us cuz i dont how do they relate 2 yoruba again o, n ive lived in warri, but we learn evriday I'll come back to you with details because right now, I can't type long notes. fero007: its only in this nairaland that i hear that itsekiri is yoruba o You are knocking yourself out, seriously. You started it yourself, by making a list of ethnic groups that ARE NOT the same but share close kinship, and then are getting confused over same issue. The strongest links itsekiris have with any other ethnic group are with Yorubas. Is Epie Urhobo? |
Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 11:48pm On Nov 05, 2018 |
IkpuMmadu: Did he call himself yoruba funny. When has Governor Akeredolu ever come out in a public forum to say "Hey everyone, i am Yoruba oooo" before? When has the governor or senator representing Adamawa North ever declared on senate ground or radio/TV that, "Hey people, Do you all know I am Fulani?" Lmaooo Why does he need to proclaim his "Yorubanness" to anyone, when he is not insecure in his ethnicity? Some of you people can be weirdly obtuse. Stop projecting what obtains in your culture on us pls.  |
Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 11:45pm On Nov 05, 2018 |
Oshin56: what the guy said is truth most okun kabba usually said they are not yoruba Most? Of course you can't be serious. You didn't even start from "some", because it is actually "a few", and among that few, it is mostly based on ignorance than on anything else. |
Celebrities › Re: Taju Now Called Opeyemi: Funke Akindele Gives Update On Young Viral Sensation by scholes0(m): 7:21pm On Nov 05, 2018 |
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Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 10:28pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
vonxe: Do you know average market women in ilorin does not know their king as emir but oba. Ilorin dialect is not very different from that of oyo. The Fulani owning ilorin is in the past, visit ilorin for yourself bro you will think you are in Ibadan or ogbomosho.
Even the bariba and tapa (nupe) are fast losing their culture to the yorubas because of the ilorin influence on them. lol, the OP never visited Ilorin or Kabba. Of course, who doesn't know he conjured all this cock and bull bshit from his rect*m. Asides The official name in govt documents of the traditional ruler of ilorin plus the palace court culture and maybe a few Fulanis here and there, very few cities in the West are actually as Authentically Yoruba as Ilorin. |
Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 10:11pm On Nov 04, 2018*. Modified: 1:02pm On Apr 15, 2023 |
fero007: i dont think so, cuz besides language itsekiris ve nothing else in common with yoruba o .................................... Even the languages just sound the same but in truth one cannot understand the other
ill prove it, i dear any yoruba here to interpret d itsrkiri phrase "uruntioritse segbe neh" And who told you that? Also who told you that? Urun ti Oritse se gbe ẹnẹ. What God has done for us. (even though you compleltely mutilated the spelling) What you don't understand is that Yoruba is a series of dialects and cultures, from coastal to upland from north to south, east to west, not a monolithic dialectal cluster, although we have general Yoruba. While Itsekiri may not be understandable to certain sections of the Yoruba populace, it is very much understandable to others. |
Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 5:17pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
fero007: nor mind dem, later they will claiming dat its igbos dat are immature, nonsense entities
well dis adds to d endless list of pepo with very close culture but r still diff tribes like:
hausa/fulani igbo/ika/ikwerre/ukwani/ogba/etche efik/ibibio/oron/annang urhobo/isoko/epie ogoni/eleme n now yoruba/okun/ilorin
good to know lol faulty. It should be Yoruba/Itsekiri. All the others are legit.  |
Culture › Re: Where Are Ijaws In Warri City? by scholes0(m): 5:41pm On Nov 03, 2018 |
viscerion: so why do they say warri city is owned by 3 tribes, n how come ijaws are allowed to contest for LG posts meant for indigenes in warri south Saying Warri is "owned" by three tribes is just people trying to be politically correct and neutral in an ethnically volatile region like the Niger Delta. Unless people are referring to Warri township plus all the places around it for up to 20 miles. To your 2nd Q, are ijaws allowed to contest major offices in Warri south? that is news to me, although i wouldn't be surprised if it were so, after all Igbos that are not even from South-West can contest for elective posts in Lagos talk less of Ijaws living in Warri South that are from same state, same region, same environment. |
Culture › Re: Where Are Ijaws In Warri City? by scholes0(m): 4:51pm On Nov 03, 2018 |
There are no Ijaw INDIGENOUS areas in warri city proper, but rather Itsekiri and Urhobo. They have villages and fishing camp like Ogbe ijoh of Gbaramatu in Warri-South West which isn't part of the city, that's it. |
Politics › Re: 2019: Election Will Be Walkover For PDP In Niger –IBB by scholes0(m): 7:09pm On Nov 01, 2018 |
llol |
Crime › Re: 53-year Old Nigerian Man Bags 3 Years In U.S Prison For Fraud by scholes0(m): 12:06pm On Nov 01, 2018 |
His nose like Onuama..... Igbo Ajoka!  |
Travel › Re: Top 10 Most Influential African Tribes During Atlantic Slave Trade by scholes0(m): 11:50am On Nov 01, 2018 |
Nowenuse: Gbam. I almost forgot the Akan people (Ashantis etc of Ghana & Ivory coast). @Proxillin. Any list without the Akan people cannot be taken seriously. These people are most likely the largest coastal ethnic group of West Africa and even arguably Africa as a whole. They are the dominant ethnic group in Ghana & Ivory coast and number over 20million people. How can Akans be the largest coastal ethnic group of West Africa? When Yorubas are there? Besides, Akan is a meta-ethnicity just like “Bantu” or “Mande” or “Berbers” or “Arabs” which are not actual or proper ethnicities but rather- groups conposed of numerous others which aren’t necessarily the same. An Ashanti Man is not Nzema and a Fante is not Brong (the ones listed in the opening post) Among the berbers for example, the same applies- A Tuareg man is very different from a Kabylie of Chleuh , even if they are all berberids. |
Travel › Re: Top 10 Most Influential African Tribes During Atlantic Slave Trade by scholes0(m): 11:35am On Nov 01, 2018 |
TAO11: Any evidence for the "also known as" ?
Moreover, Eleru means "one who causes fear"; "one who has got lots properties, loads, etc"; among other meanings depending on the tone of pronouncing it. Actually, Iwo Eleru in this context means cave or hole of Ash. |
Politics › Re: True Situation Of 2019 Presidential Elections. An Accurate Reflection In Figures by scholes0(m): 12:19am On Nov 01, 2018 |
Buhariislifeles: Lol. Op is joking. Dullhari will not win Yobe, Adamawa, bornu, Zamfara and kaduna.
Op you must be high to think that dulhari will score a single vote in southeast. Afonja muslims might vote him sha lol Hope is good, but this your own level of optimism, e get as e be. |
Culture › Re: One Problem With Some Igbo People Of Nigeria. By John Chizoba Vincent by scholes0(m): 2:30pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
Yorubas do it too, but yeah, I see your point. |
Business › Re: Ease Of Doing Business: World Bank Group Rates Enugu State 2nd In Nigeria by scholes0(m): 7:14pm On Oct 29, 2018 |
Good. But Honestly, I can't see anything from the chart. |
Culture › Re: Igbos Are Lost by scholes0(m): 5:42pm On Oct 29, 2018 |
OlaoChi: It's quite unfortunate but there is nothing as sad as the realization of igbos total disconnect from their traditions and history.
All we hear are chants of Biafra, Biafra, Biafra but no substance, no reference to the igbo ethnic identity or Odinani rather Ipob talking about building a Jewish state Substituting one system of oppression for another Pathetic!
Igbos are now lost, disconnected from their ancestors and even reality Do we blame Christianity?  |
Celebrities › Re: Davido Performs In Mayotte At Sold Out Concert - Country He Never Heard Of by scholes0(m): 12:32pm On Oct 29, 2018 |
not a country. It is an overseas department of france in the indian ocean. |
Culture › Re: Why Do They Hate Been Called Yoruba by scholes0(m): 4:00pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
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Politics › Re: Osinbajo Caught With Strippers! by scholes0(m): 12:52pm On Oct 28, 2018*. Modified: 3:54pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
lol Nairaland no go kill person with sensational news...... So did he tell you he knows about their official "professions"? ... besides, if Jesus was a Nigerian, he would have been crucified for visiting the house of the prostitute Mary Mgdalene.
Nigerians are Hypocrites of the worst kind! |
Music/Radio › Re: Official Video "Yoruba-calabar" By Mish by scholes0(m): 2:27pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
Yoruba-Calabar mmongo mmongo..  lol. |
Politics › Re: Now It Is Time For Us To Negotiate With Nnamdi Kanu – Fani-kayode by scholes0(m): 2:23pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
Apawicked: FFK put Nnamdi Kanu's name out of your mouth. That slimy trait in most of you over there is trying so hard to manifest in you but i hope soon Nnamdi Kanu puts you where you belong. But did "most of them over there" beg you IPOBS to turn the loose cannon into your demi-god before? At least you can't say you weren't words by the same people. confused lots..... You people are indeed proving to be more unstable than earthquake prone Japan. |
Politics › Re: IPOB Press Release On Choice Of Atiku As President by scholes0(m): 2:20pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
AAinEqGuinea: if one Russian woman can make hundreds of fake fb accounts to attempt to undermine US politics, what makes you think Buhari's camp wouldn't do the same? In fact I'm pretty sure his camp is behind most of these phony "Atikulating" accounts. It smells of Buhari lol, gtfoh... are you on ground in Nigeria?  You are one funny character. |
Politics › Re: IPOB Press Release On Choice Of Atiku As President by scholes0(m): 2:00pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
AAinEqGuinea: Aren't you just the elated one. "hope and change" is loading  No Lefelendum no erection is the mantra of IPOB, my friend. Listen to the voice of Igbos below. IamAtikulate: You emerged after months of silence, when Atikulation is hot in the air to tell me to boucott election. You are joking.
If IPOB wants to be demystified, they should try anything stupid. This is Igboland, we don't answer to anybody.
Nnamdi Kanu is not half as popular as Ojukwu, but when he decided to dictate our political future was the day we retired him.
I am Atikulating, Period. Any IPOB that shouts No Election, No Referendum has no PVC. We know that. |
Politics › Re: IPOB Press Release On Choice Of Atiku As President by scholes0(m): 1:52pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
AAinEqGuinea: At the very least maybe you can thank Kanu and IPOB later for the traffic. "Kanu kills a python lurking his garden" loading for even more traffic Maybe , maybe not. All I know is that 99% of Igbos are too busy atikulating to care.  |
Politics › Re: IPOB Press Release On Choice Of Atiku As President by scholes0(m): 1:46pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
AAinEqGuinea: Kanu and IPOB threads are flooding the fp. But "No one cares". It pains people to see kanu back, here comes trouble send more pythons to dance, further undermine the most botched version of African democracy, in which IPOB is supposed to help maintain by voting what do you mean by your first sentence? NL is all about the traffic just like any other site on the internet. Are you a learner? |
Politics › Re: IPOB Press Release On Choice Of Atiku As President by scholes0(m): 1:31pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
AAinEqGuinea: IPOB never gave a flying fvk who win any "election", in fact abstaining has always been their strategy.
Reinvent Hope and Change for 2019 see how far that gets the people what is IPOB? Are the people in IPOB not what makes the IPOB relevant? Right now, the people don't seem to give a flying fck what half-dead IPOB is saying and seem to care more about the Northern Fulani oligarch and his Igbo lapdog than their Biafran utopia.. Go and sitt down. |