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Why did Jesus have to go back to the Father anyway? If he was physically resurrected, he could've just continued his ministry on earth. The whole world would have been converted within a few years. To me, the reason is simple: being dead (sorry), he could not continue his ministry.

Harvard13:
You didnt tell us what in your opinion happened to Christs body or do u bliv it was stolen from a tomb guarded by roman soldiers.

Only Matthew reports the presence of Roman soldiers at the tomb, despite it being.a big deal. This suggests that Matthew's writer may have fabricated it to support the notion that the body could not have been stolen. Mark contradicts Matthew directly because it says that the women asked themselves who would open the tomb. If they knew that there were soldiers there, they would not have had that discussion. Even Matthew gives the disciples a day to steal the body without being stopped by Roman soldiers. And the disciples could still have stolen the body by just bribing the Roman soldiers if indeed the soldiers were there.

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4everGod1:
So in essence because Christians can tolerate criticism they are fair game to be toyed with at anyones behest? Based on that we are open to all and sundry to defame, ridicule and insult?

Atheists are also fair game to be toyed with at anyone's behest. The same is true of Traditionalists, Buddhists, and all other religious groups.

https://www.nairaland.com/1947119/let-us-more-tolerant-each

Yes, I believe all beliefs should be fair game for criticism, but only the living can criticize. It's a pity that some beliefs cannot tolerate criticism.

See also: https://www.nairaland.com/1947119/let-us-more-tolerant-each

It happened at a time when I had many problems in my life and I decided to skip sunday fellowship because frankly, the fellowship hadn't done anything whatsoever to help me with my problems. Over the next week, I tried to examine the impact of my personal relationship with God on my life and I could only conclude that it had a negative impact on my life. If I had relied on my own understanding to make decisions, instead of doing things I thought God wanted me to do, my life would have been so much better. So I told my roommates that I'd be an interim atheist until I got some strong evidence of the existence of God and the truth of the bible. I'd no longer give Christianity the benefit of doubt.

(I could do that because in my quest to be a better Christian, I learnt exactly how the bible was put together, which was a mess. I'd had to think about the contradictions in the bible. I'd tried to convert a muslim who was able to defend the flaws of Islam as well as I could defend the flaws of Christianity, which made me realize that the only reason I was a Christian was by choice, due to being born into it. My quest to witness the pentecostal promise of signs and wonders had been fruitless. Even speaking in tongues had turned out to be not supernatural at all)

As an atheist, I started the process of rethinking my life, and everything now made so much more sense. All those 'difficult questions' I used to struggle with as a Christian who actually read the bible and tried to make sense of it were easily answered thus: "because there's no God".

Macelliot:
African spiritualist believes in God, not only Bible or Quran..
I believe in Chukwu Okike Abiama..

To generalize, when an atheist is talking about God, he/she is talking about the God his counterpart imagines to exist. That could be Chukwu.

Atheists do not believe that God exists, just as you do not believe that Superman exists. This is true of all atheists.

When we talk about God, we're talking about the God character in the Bible, or Quran, just as we might talk about the Superman in the movies.

OtemWonyahweh:
Oga seun, I wonder why you fell into the trap. How come you are analysing a cooked-up story made up by Dominzy as early as 3:40am this morning? Any time a story like this comes, type it on Google first, and if it is coming out from bloggers alone, discard it.
The only source of this story is from Dominzy's blog only. But if we don't quickly refute it now, other bloggers will carry it and spread it.

Before you can believe that a story actually happened in our own time, then it must also appear in one of the dailies in our country.

Oops, I didn't check the source or the person posting it. It's still important to debunk it because other people may make the same mistake.

antispexish:
the bolded parts says it all
no need for further evidence

Yep, of course she was not dead. For those who may not understand: a freshly dead body can't have a locked jaw (which implies that the jaw muscles are still active) or eyes rolled back (which implies that the eye muscles are still active).

Vicoch:
What about this: Devil tried to bring a calamity upon him, and God asked him to fast so as to avert it...?

The calamity was caused by carelessness. The devil was not the one who failed to teach the boy to avoid roads. He was not the one who failed to install a jam lock on the gate so people won't forget to secure it. He was not the one who went to sleep knowing that there was no other person watching the toddler. And he was not the one who forgot to secure the gate.

One problem with religious thinking is that it causes us interpret our experiences incorrectly and thus to fail to figure out the real reasons for our problems so we can prevent them from happening again. Train your son. Install a jam lock. Never leave him unsupervised. Those are the real lessons of the story. But the OP probably thinks the lesson is to pray and fast more.

Chrisrare:
A woman dats not married cant be respected by society.

Is Oprah Winfrey not respected by society? Is Genevieve Nnaji not respected and idolized?

Why not create a new thread to discuss the theory of evolution?

damogul:
SECOND SCENARIO: this is also a true occurrence;

I lost my father on the 4th of June this year and have been grieving. In my family we were 3 brothers and 3 sisters. I have lost my mom, a sister and a brother all under mysterious circumstances before my dad left on the 4th.

It has been common knowledge to everyone in my family both nuclear and extended that a certain uncle of ours has been behind a lot of the problems we had.

This is a man who once hired assassins to kill my dad but the assassins exposed it to my dad rather than kill him. This is a man that during my moms burial was laughing and enjoying himself while making a video of her corpse. Note my mom told us she wrestled with someone dressed in all black in her dreams 2 weeks before she died because she took ill immediately after the incident and never recovered

12 days after my father died I had a revelation. I was with my remaining brothers and sisters and that my fathers brother whom we all knew ws fetish and in that revelation he was trying to kill us...especially me perhaps because I am the first son.

I managed to escape and raised an alarm. He was caught and dragged into a room where I was also sheltered. I saw a gun on the floor , picked it up and shot him in the stomach then my wife woke me up as I was expressing myself in reality even though I was dreaming.

I told her what happened. The next day a meeting was to be held in his house on how to go about the burial of my dad and at exactly 3pm in the presence of everyone at the meeting he suddenly started complaining of not feeling too good and needs air and his son began to fan him but his situation got worse and they had to rush him to the hospital...he died on the way...


Question: how was it that I had a spiritual encounter with him in a dream the day before where I shot him to kill him and he died the next day without being ill?

Is there a correlation or just mere coincidence?

God watched as this magic man magically killed your mum, and allowed it. God watched as he magically killed your sister and brother, and didn't stop it. God watched as he magically killed your dad, and said, no problem. God allowed the devil's magic to kill four people in your family despite the protection of the blood of Jesus, and the fervent prayers of his children in the name of Jesus at which every knee shall bow. The blood of the Lamb and the name of Jesus did not protect them despite what we've seen in Mike Bamiloye's videos. God had a better plan.

Instead of protecting his four children, God would let them die and grant the first born of the remaining orphans a hallucination/nightmare in which he would murder the magic man in spite of the biblical injunction "thou shalt not kill". Then God would carry out the murder for him.

damogul:
Ok here we go... at about 9.30pm on the 1st of July 2016 while sitting at home and meditating on the events of the day (which is a common practice of mine) I heard a voice clearly tell me that I should embark on a 7 day fast. Now over time in my walk with God I have come to know when he speaks to me and so I knew He was the one.

I began this fast immediately without questioning the reason behind it. Now fast forward to yesterday afternoon after church my wife, my son and I all went home and I decided to take a short rest while my son was busy watching his cartoons.

My wife came into the bedroom briefly to let me know she wants to go down the road to buy some vegies and stew stuff and she left. Now this is where it gets interesting.

I live in Ajah and those who understand the ajah expressway and how dangerous it is would attest to what I am about to say. The distance from my house to the express is about 300 to 400 meters and my family especially my son is well know on our stretch of road and has never been seen alone as either my wife or myself are always with him.

My wife left but did not shut the front door properly. My son who is just 3yrs old got up opened the front door and opened my pedestrian gate which my wife did not lock when going out so she could easily come back in without knocking to wake me up and walked out.

I woke up suddenly barely 2 mins after my son walked out and note I said barey 2 mins because I estimated how long it took him to get to where he did and myself to also get to where he got to after searching the house and compound for him.

He walked from my house passed where my wife was busy making purchases and straight into the middle of the lekki ajah expressway. Now this is my problem... nobody seemed to notice him when he was walking towards the express even those who knew him and it was the shouts of a keke driver thag got peoples attention and he (the keke man) jumped intl the road and began flagging fast approaching vehicles down before snatching him from the middle of the road. It was at that point of snatching him from the road that I got there due to the screeching of tires and shouts I heard.

My son broke down in tears due to the shock of the moment and myself and my wife of course got scolded by several people.

Question: why was it that it was after I was asked to fast and I obeyed that this calamity was averted?

Who asked me to fast? Was it my mind or based on sixth sense?

Note: we are not normally careless people my wife and I but the events of yesterday seemed like a well scripted occurrence....too well scripted from my little nap session to my wife going out to buy stuff which she normally does on our way back from church but didn't do this time even with money on her to the front door left slightly open to the pedestrian gate being open to the fact that nobody saw my 3 yr old son walking alone even when they knew him so well?

Please I need an explanation. Is there a link between my fast and the aversion of this disaster?
Is there a scientific explanation to it? Was it nature playing a cruel joke?

Answers pls.

Also note that in my life I have experienced quite a number of Strong spiritual occurrences so you need to offer me an explanation that is irrefutable so I can believe that things just happen for no reason.

So God knew that you had not taught your son that roads are dangerous and not to be played on. He knew your wife was going to forget to lock your front door and your gate, allowing your son to get to the highway. He knew that people in your area would be so busy that they would not notice a small child walking towards the expressway until he was in the middle of the road. And God's solution was not to instruct you to teach your son not to play on the road, nor to instruct you and your your wife to always lock the door when you go out or install a jam lock, but to instruct you to starve yourself. And, if you obeyed, to wake you up. To wake you up, not in time to stop your child from getting on the highway, but to watch helplessly as your child is rescued by an okada man who would have rescued him anyway even if you had not been woken up.

Really?

Here's my explanation. You bleeped up. Your wife bleeped up. Luckily for you, an okada man saved your son's life. Praise be to the okada man. You probably think God allowed this to happen for His glory, but I don't see how a near-tragedy caused by your carelessness glorifies God. Do you realize that if you weren't starving, you might not have been sleeping in the afternoon? You might have been playing with your son.

yvonne111:
Mr seun, plz deal with this. Pic below

Apologies for this problem.

Islam is the only religion getting a special treatment. Christians are free to criticize all other religions and philosophies including Atheism, Buddhism, Occultism, Traditionalism, etc. It is myopic to imply that this policy is anti-Christian as if all other religions have been granted their own sections. Some Muslims don't even like having their own section because their section is very dry compared to this one.

A problem I've observed is that some atheists are very rude and prone to derailing threads, effectively turning every thread into a debate about the existence of God. That's not right and in a few days mynd44 will extend his war against trolls to this section so we can have a good time.

For what purpose do you need a dog that "any dog" will do? Do you want to eat them?

cbay:
Here's what I did that is currently working. I take my time to parboil the dry food. Put a cup and half in water and boil till its a bit pasty and then I add semovita, raw egg(if available), a little red oil, one pack of indomie (if available) and stir until it becomes hard like eba. I allow to cool off, break into peices and serve whole or with a lil soup on top.

Here's an easier way: save the water you use to cook your meat/chicken and mix some of it with the unwanted dry food just before serving it. I don't cook, but when I ate canned sardines I used to save the oil and mix it with the crappy dog kibble I mistakenly bought, and it worked.

dalaman:
This is what I dislike with you sometimes. You just make big statements that are very false

Exactly. Lying for Jesus.

winner01: You know what would be ironic if the bible was true? Going to hell for lying for Jesus.

"and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelations 21:8.

KingEbukasBlog:
From incest to murder . No guilt , no compunction . Welcome to subjective morality.

Well, I walked into that one! It was a half-baked provocative idea. Someone should start a thread about Abortion. It is bad, but it's not murder. We should also have a thread about secular vs religious morality.

Why does every thread have to devolve into inconclusive arguments about the existence of God? We will start to ban people who go off topic.

KingEbukasBlog:
An atheist would permit his son to sleep with his own daughter simply because he subscribes to subjective morality.

No I wouldn't because it's yucky and gross and I have the authority to ban it in my home. But I wouldn't worry myself about other people's kids. I think it should be illegal for close family members to have kids. If a guy knocks up his sister, maybe there should be a mandatory abortion.

charijee:
[color=#CD1076]Oh yes I do.....but it's been ages i received one

Send me a rose and you'll forever remain dear to me[/color]

You can plant your own flowers, you know, if you like flowers so much.

photoshoot:
The bolded...
Does it mean you don't eat it?

Of course I eat it. It's very tasty! The point I was trying to make is that yuckiness and evil are different things. If something grosses me out but it's not objectively harmful to anyone, all I need to ask for is that the people doing it should please try to not do it in my presence.

winner01:
What exactly do you mean by evidence, anything could serve as evidence my brother.

Somethinf like proof. Facta that support your beliefs

KingEbukasBlog:
Incest is sexual activity between family members or close relatives.

When I mean sexual activity , I mean consensual sexual activity just for the pleasure and not for procreation.

Rocreational incest is medically unadvicable due to the increased chance of genetically defective offspring, but since you're talking about, hmm, "safe incest", all I can say is that it's yucky and ewwy and gross, just like anal sex and the slaughter of chickens for food. Those 3 acts are in the same moral category in my view.

The objective was to protect your security and lives, not your feelings. For more information:
https://www.nairaland.com/1947119/let-us-more-tolerant-each

Millerz:
I've been a Christian since the day I was born. Maybe not fully devoted, but I spend quality time praying, fasting and reading the bible on my own. For the past 3yrs, i've experienced unimaginable pain, nothing has worked out for me, and my life seems to be going in circles. I've been praying to God, but havnt got results. Nothing appeals to me anymore. All I think about is suicide and I already got poison. My parents are the reason I haven't taken my life. They would be devastated cause I'm the last child.

You appear to have symptoms of depression. Pls see a psychiatrist. This is not an insult. They have treatments that will make you feel better.