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PoliticsRe: Nigerian Islamist Sect Posters Threaten Uprising by ShangoThor(m): 10:32pm On Feb 02, 2011
[size=14pt]Southern Nigerians are some of the SLOWEST people on earth! Wow! This is not a Joke. Boko Haram was never wiped out, they simply went to regroup. This is a serious threat. Wake TF up. Butchering babies is a message.

Al Quaeda is already in Nigeria, that is where Boko Haram is getting their Bomb Technology from. The CIA know this and that is why they are in Nigeria.

The next logical step to declaring Sharia States is to call for an Islamic State.

Wake TF up! ! !
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PoliticsRe: H.a.a.r.p by ShangoThor(m): 8:01pm On Feb 02, 2011
High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH7N7BRy50A
PoliticsRe: H.a.a.r.p by ShangoThor(m): 7:56pm On Feb 02, 2011
Yep, conspiracy theorists claim it's a secret high tech WMD, and it had been blamed for the EarthQuake tremours in Haiti
Foreign AffairsRe: South Sudan Becomes 54th African State by ShangoThor(m): 6:47pm On Feb 02, 2011
aguiyi:
wake up boy,no nation has splited without shedding blood. correct me if am wrong but pls do so with proofs
Blood has already been and is currently being spilled, Civil War; Jos and butchered babies and women; SS and oil struggle;
Boko Haram and Northern terrorists; spate of bombings that will not end and the list goes on.

That is why we have to directly lobby the UN for them to sponsor a Referendum. All we need is one country to sponsor our
cause at the UN, that is the process and why it would be a lot easier to succeed if a united front is presented across
the whole of Southern Nigeria.
Foreign AffairsRe: South Sudan Becomes 54th African State by ShangoThor(m): 5:11pm On Feb 02, 2011
The spirit of Nigerian Citizenship is a falsehood. Citizens have lost confidence in the system and there is nothing that
can be done about it. No amount of coercion, or propaganda can force the people to stick together, in something that is
deemed as not working.

If members of a Football Team, get on the pitch for a match, but when the ref blows the whistle and the players refuse to
play their assigned roles, then the game is over by forfeit and the ref can't force them to play and neither can the coach.


If a train is about to crash, the people on the train also desrve to be able to jump off it before it crashes!

[size=14pt]The Northern States that adopted Sharia would be better served to combine forces and form a new Nation State,"you can't have your cake and eat it too".[/size]

As I keep on saying, I know this might confine you to the desert and arid areas, but if you develop any
financial hardship because of it , you can apply to the Southern Region for "Financial Aid" and because you are good African muslims, the application will be granted
Foreign AffairsRe: South Sudan Becomes 54th African State by ShangoThor(m): 3:42pm On Feb 02, 2011
21-05-2011:
I hope and pray Nigeria will never turn out like former SUDAN
that is why looking around and noting that we are in the infancy of the bloodshed that happened in Sudan
we have to break up
we should learn to draw from other peoples experiences
Naija simply isnt working!
@ bold [size=28pt]Bingo! ![/size]
Foreign AffairsRe: South Sudan Becomes 54th African State by ShangoThor(m): 2:23pm On Feb 02, 2011
[size=28pt]Go on South Sudan, GO!.[/size]

Ending years of Islamic oppression, tyranny and subjugation.

What a Paradox, Nigeria is meant to be a democratic polity, but her peoples are refused the same privilege of voting by a small,
minority amount of the Bourgeois.

Whilst we delay the inevitable, certain people are busy looting the coffers of the State. What a massive scam!

[size=14pt]The Northern States that adopted Sharia would be better served to combine forces and form a new Nation State,"you can't have your cake and eat it too".[/size]

As I keep on saying, I know this might confine you to the desert and arid areas, but if you develop any
financial hardship because of it , you can apply to the Southern Region for "Financial Aid" and because you are good African muslims, the application will be granted
PoliticsRe: Secession - Option B - Creation Of Southern Nigerian State by ShangoThor(op): 1:04am On Feb 02, 2011
Obiagu1:
My position on this is, it's much harder for Biafra or Odua to secede alone. Negotiation has to be devoid of sentiment; it has to be based on reality.
How possible is it that Biafra can secede alone? If we all see the need for the south to leave Nigeria, then after such secession, it will be put to referendum to decide what we want, confederation, federalism or outright split.

This is my position.
I concur, it is such a straight forward argument and strategy, its about business, straight forward logic
PoliticsRe: Secession - Option B - Creation Of Southern Nigerian State by ShangoThor(op): 1:01am On Feb 02, 2011
Eziachi:
Ignorant is a disease. I don't even think you know what we are actually debating.
Your arguments are so coherent ? ? ?

During Slavery, there were Africans that supported the misery it inflicted!
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 12:27am On Feb 02, 2011
Obiagu1:
If Southern Nigeria declares independence, the North cannot contemplate war because:
1. The Yoruba gives the south a number equal to or greater than the north. So numerical advantage is nullified.
2. Northern access to the sea will be cut off, so they will be battling with logistics on how to get in reasonable quantity of arms to sustain their war effort.
3. With this problem of logistics, the south has upper hand, which at the end of the day, if the north were the aggressors, they'll eventually lose more land to the south.

It's a war the North can't win and suicidal if they go that route.
[size=28pt]Bingo! ![/size]
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 12:22am On Feb 02, 2011
solihu:
Na wa o! Una go kill person with laugther.

This must be a conspiracy. So when the man with the bowler hat is at the helms of affairs strategizing how to navigate his way to 2015 and you guyz are trying to cut short his dream?
Lol, it's best for us to try and effect/control the outcome ; smiley
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 12:17am On Feb 02, 2011
alj harem:
the only aid you can give to us if you really like us is to make us remain in the same country wink
@ bold, at least you're honest cheesy
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 12:01am On Feb 02, 2011
All we want to do is feed, educate and enrich our citizens and regions in Southern Nigeria

Imagine, reducing conflicts due to cattle migration, but you can feed the cows in the desert.

Moreover, you can apply to the Southern Region for "Financial Aid" and because you are good African muslims, the application will be granted
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 11:48pm On Feb 01, 2011
Alj Harem, you're a good guy, but tell your elders to go, so you can argue amongst yourselves about zoning and deal with you Boko Haram menace!

Don't be scared or afraid, I know you have the desert, but if you apply to us for AID, because you are African muslims you will be granted the AID!
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 11:44pm On Feb 01, 2011
alj harem:
thank you cool smiley
The point now is to let our Northern countrymen to know is that the time is up. Enough is enough. The game is over!

The country will split, you have no vision or strategy for our collective existence all you desire is a monopoly
on power and subjugating others. It's time to split amicably, please lobby your elders, enough is enough
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 11:37pm On Feb 01, 2011
[size=14pt]The Northern States that adopted Sharia would be better served to combine forces and form a new Nation State,"you can't have your cake and eat it too".[/size]
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 11:32pm On Feb 01, 2011
[size=18pt]Alj Harem, your game is up and so is your agenda![/size]
What is for certain is that Southerners and minorities in general do not want you as their neigbours.

And you feel exactly the same way and that is why your Northern States adopted Sharia. You wanted to
distinguish yourselves but you don't want to go it alone because you want to keep on sucking the
financial blood of this nation.

Once again

Alj harem has one agenda, which is to act like the devil (rub our egos the wrong way), to setup confrontational situations
so everybody starts arguing. He has to destroy any sign of an alliance being built amongst Southerners, read his postings.
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 11:22pm On Feb 01, 2011
[size=28pt]To all the Yoruba on this board![/size]

Southerners have the power together as a unit, drawing a natural border right across the whole damn country. This is the only
way that a war can be prevented. Wake TF up! Think about military strategies, it is so obvious it ridiculous.

What is the point of being "EDUCATED" if you cannot apply theory in order to improve our social living conditions? What is the
point of being "EDUCATED" if you're virtually Slaves in your own land, with hungry and poor people?


The Yoruba should stand for social justice of all Africans. This is not just about Nigeria, it is a fight for all Africans
and we have an opportunity to contribute and a leading role with other polities. Once this is done we can go our separate ways.


People will say they are ready to take action, ohhh really, so what is the plan,  There is no plan

This is a different, and more astute, knowledgeable, enlightened generation. It is time to use our brains!

The South is abundantly wealthy, there should be no hungry mouths or poor persons in Southern Nigeria.

Everybody keeps on telling us this, but we keep on making excuses! If after we break up from the North
without bloodshed, all the polities in Southern Nigeria can agree to separate amicable via another referendum.
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 10:56pm On Feb 01, 2011
[size=28pt]Alj harem again. People wake up. You're being played.[/size]

Alj harem has one agenda, which is to act like the devil (rub our egos the wrong way), to setup confrontational situations
so everybody starts arguing. He has to destroy any sign of an alliance being built amongst Southerners, read his postings.

This is what the British did initially, "divide and rule" or "divide and conquer", when they left, The Northerners stepped in.
They understand how it works.

Northerners are scared. If you had just a desert or arid terrain, wouldn't you be scared.

Southerners have more power than they understand, nobody has to be poor or hungry. Its time to use our brains, damnnnn!

You can lead a horse to a stream but you can't force it to drink! Wake TF up!
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 8:41pm On Feb 01, 2011
@ Obagui1, this is a new generation with a common interest.

We stand vindicated!

The colonialists have admitted that they setup time bombs to make sure Nigeria would not work. This time bomb was the North/South
Schism of which the Hausa/Fulani group were the major dominant group in Northern Nigeria.

See this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-593484.32.html

The status quo can only be maintained by "divide and rule" or "divide and conquer", and this is why all over Southern Nigeria,
we have to join forces to end this arrangement.



Ultimately, the battle is between "darkness and light", "good and evil".

The enemies within want to keep (the majority of Africans) in perpetual darkness, they will appeal to "tribal sentiments", "religious sentiments"
to skuttle any sign of the development of a " broad (multi faith and multi tribal)consensus across S. Nigeria in order to get the UN involved so
they can sponsor a referendum for separation".

Let the people decide!
PoliticsRe: An Imperative . . . .calling The Children Of O'dua. by ShangoThor(m): 8:29pm On Feb 01, 2011
@ Poster, your humanitarian appeal is pertinent. I have been shouting about this for days on numerous threads. I believe that there is only one solution. I will reiterate my points again below:

[size=14pt]Yoruba Ronu ? ? ? How long for? Indefinite procrastination is not a plan.[/size]


1. The Yoruba position of clearly sitting on the fence, waiting for the opportune moment despite clearly knowing who the aggressors are
is ridiculous and might prove to be very costly in the future.

2. The Yoruba are missing an ideal opportunity to show leadership and a moral compass, highlighting the plight of Social Justice; the
eradication of poverty and hunger; respect for women; protection for the vulnerable, minors and children on the
continent and EARN SOME RESPECT, considering how the Yoruba population(s) was decimated during the Slave Trade.

3. The Yoruba and Northerners will not develop identity specific tensions to the point of there being large scale violence and casualties
that would force the issue that would start the process.

4. There will be very few opportunities to split the country. Staying in a political union with Baby Buthers because your babies have not
been butchered yet is a ridiculous strategy.

5. The Yoruba need to have an open mind, form an alliance with other Southern Nigerians to defeat the common enemy foe first. It would be
a lot easier to form an ODUA Republic (which I do not believe will be required) out of a Southern Nigeria, as opposed to forming an ODUA Republic
out of Nigeria as it stands. View it as 2 steps to achieving the objective instead of 1. But to do nothing, is a recipe for disaster ,
this strategy will not work, in fact it is not a plan at all.

6. The Yoruba need to build a broad (multi faith and multi tribal)consensus across Nigeria in order to get the UN involved so they
can sponsor a referendum for separation.
That is the objective,and it is more important than individual egos.


Yoruba Ronu ? ? ? How long for? We need a plan.

Seriously, don't get caught napping.

[size=14pt]The Northern States that adopted Sharia would be better served to combine forces and form a new Nation State,"you can't have your cake and eat it too".[/size]
PoliticsRe: What I Said About Sharia - Buhari by ShangoThor(m): 10:46am On Feb 01, 2011
source before I let rip?
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El Nino grin
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Fernando Torres ===> Chelsea - Yep we have got him!

We are back! grin
PoliticsRe: Bombings: Fashola Orders Disused Vehicles' Removal by ShangoThor(m): 8:59pm On Jan 31, 2011
[size=14pt]Pre-emptive measures, some can lead, plan, and genuinely care! It's a shame that they will never get the top job![/size]
PoliticsRe: Secession - Option B - Creation Of Southern Nigerian State by ShangoThor(op): 5:19pm On Jan 31, 2011
Eziachi:
Hypocrite!
So you knew before that it will be decided by individual votes before you took it upon yourself deciding what majority of Ndigbo including me will want or you didn't read your own original posts?
Yet another self made expert on Ndigbo and what we wanted.
[size=18pt]And you are a fraud, you and your type are all fraudulent![/size]

You're right to be afraid, be very afraid, the days of you and your kind looting the coffers of the State with impugnity will
end. You can't keep the masses hungry and in darkness forever, the light will always prevail and shine through.


I have stated all over this thread and forum, below is my position:

We need to create a " broad (multi faith and multi tribal)consensus across S. Nigeria in order to get the UN involved so they
can sponsor a referendum for separation" . You are completely off point.

The status quo can only be maintained by "divide and rule" or "divide and conquer", and this is why all over Southern Nigeria,
we have to join forces to end this arrangement.
PoliticsRe: Secession - Option B - Creation Of Southern Nigerian State by ShangoThor(op): 4:41pm On Jan 31, 2011
Eziachi:
In as much as I don't ever believed in one Nigeria from day one. Anything called Southern Nigeria as one country will be far worse than Nigeria as we see it today.
It will be like jumping from a frying pan into fire.
How on earth, will anyone, after eventually freeing self from Nigeria and then will choose to replace it with another mini Nigeria called Southern Nigeria?
There are no such thing as Southern Nigeria as long Ndigbo is concerned, if there were such a thing, I think it ended in 1967, when some of them joined hand with the northerners to fight their so-called southern brothers.
How can you create another nation with Yoruba and Ndigbo inside it and expect progress? You measure how futile such a country will be even through NAIRALAND alone. No chance!!
The day Nigerians will eventually wake up from their slumber and decide to go their separate ways because the crude oil that kept forcing them together is either finished or something new happens, everybody will go back to their pre-1914 of Lord Lugard status.

Then based on choice and individual interests, whomever chooses, can form a new marriage (nation) with whoever it find comfort/trust with or another choice to stay on your own , no matter what.
There is no hidding the fact that Ndigbo, Ibibio, Efik and possibly Annang may likely form a nation based on the fact that they had always got on well better than others, over many generations in the past. They had never had any known or recorded disagreements in the past and such a union must also be based on the choice of each and everyone of them.

Why would an Igbo nation stop Igbos from emigrating? That is not just a baseless sentiiment but also meaningless.
Many Igbos like Ojukwu's father, my grandfather and others was making their money/building their businesses in far away Congo, Equatorial Guinea (Known as Panya then) as early as 1930s. As we speakm my family still the sole Franchise owner of Citreon Trucks in both Gabon and the Congolese nations.
Igbo businesses are more secured in far away Cameroon, Togo, Gabon and presently South Africa than they they are in Ogbomosho, Sapele or Katsina etc.
So what the heck are you talking about migration, especially in today's open world?
[size=18pt]Well you are perfectly welcome to represent your view in a single vote, let the people decide![/size]
PoliticsRe: Secession - Option B - Creation Of Southern Nigerian State by ShangoThor(op): 2:03pm On Jan 31, 2011
LoveKing:
Who are you guys calling for secession? What are your qualifications? Are you in nigeria or abroad? Is it only just on cyberspace or is it echoed by every nigerian on the streets? What does the media say about this in the north and in the south? Or are we living in a pipe dream? Are we postulating theories or taking actions?
Irrelevant, let the affected people decide in a UN sponsored Referendum, before Boko Haram or Al Quaeda does!
PoliticsRe: Harold Smith On Colonial Britain’s Hidden Agenda In Nigeria by ShangoThor(m): 12:37pm On Jan 31, 2011
SAKUR:
“Our agenda was to completely exploit Africa.

Nigeria was my duty post. When we assessed Nigeria, this was what we found in the southern region: strength, intelligence, a determination to succeed, well established history, complex but focused life styles, great hope and aspirations… the East is good in business and technology, the West is good in administration and commerce, law and medicine, but it was a pity we planned our agenda to give power “at all costs” to (one region), Our mission was accomplished by destroying the opposition on all fronts. The West led in the fight for independence, and was punished for asking for freedom”.

He submitted that the colonial masters did a lot of havoc while they were in Africa, and planted time bombs when they finally left. “What we have seen since independence is an administration of new internal colonial masters, fellow Nigerians doing more damage to Nigeria. Instead of detonating the time bombs planted by the British, it is planting mines”.

http://www.peoplesdaily-online.com/opinion/letters/4096-harold-smith-on-colonial-britains-hidden-agenda-in-nigeria
@ bold [size=28pt]Bingo! ![/size]

What was the ticking time bomb? The North South Schism. I pray that the people of Southern Nigeria will one day see the light!

The status quo can only be maintained by "divide and rule" or "divide and conquer", and this is why all over Southern Nigeria,
we have to join forces to end this arrangement.
PoliticsRe: Harold Smith On Colonial Britain’s Hidden Agenda In Nigeria by ShangoThor(m): 12:21pm On Jan 31, 2011
Obiagu1:
The bolded is one of the major reasons they opposed Biafra, a final breakaway from the North.
[size=28pt]Bingo! ![/size]

This is why I have always argued that some Southern Nigerians suffer from a "fatal conceit" or "illusions of grandieur" by
completely believeing that breaking away and forming separate enclaves in Southern Nigeria is completely subject to our will
, as if we are in total control. Reality is that it's a game of strategies and there are so many ways to skin a cat.
PoliticsRe: Boko Haram, Military In Fight To Finish In Borno by ShangoThor(m): 12:00pm On Jan 31, 2011
Obiagu1:
If Nigeria should lose control of Bornu State to Boko Haram, then the formation of Sharia republic of Northern Nigeria is around the corner as they'll seek to conquer the whole sharia states and even the south but, hahaha, Yoruba man will follow Igbo man fight by force else . . .
Let's bury our heads in the sand, ignore the situation, it might go away. This is the best plan! LOL
PoliticsRe: Secession - Option B - Creation Of Southern Nigerian State by ShangoThor(op): 11:21am On Jan 31, 2011
badesco:
Secession or no seccession. No section of the country should coerce or force any section into fighting a cause dat is not theirs. If igbos want to secceed let them not drag d yorubas into it. Yorubas and igbos are 2 different entities. So leave yorubas alone and fight your cause alone.
How does creating a " broad (multi faith and multi tribal)consensus across S. Nigeria in order to get the UN involved so they
can sponsor a referendum for separation" amount to coercion to fight a war? You are completely off point!

The status quo can only be maintained by "divide and rule" or "divide and conquer", and this is why all over Southern Nigeria,
we have to join forces to end this arrangement.

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