₦airaland Forum

ROSSIKE:
You are WRONG.  At least 44 countries, including Russia, Venezuela, and Ivory Coast, are ridden with more corruption than Nigeria.

http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2010/results

I've no idea where you get your information. Suffice it to say that the overwhelming majority of Nigerians are not aware of  this weekly butchering of babies you allege. Your wild allegations and innuendo seem motivated by little more than spite, which leads one to conclude you have deep personal problems.

You must be short of incidents of human rights violations in Nigeria to be talking about Fela's mum's death in 1977 or 1976, or Saro Wiwa's execution in 1995, both under conditions of military dictatorship.

Isn't that because the TRUTH is that Nigerians have become MORE FREE TODAY, while a Nigeria-hating creep like you is still stuck in the 1970s? I bet you cannot even get yourself to admit there's been ANY progress in Nigeria.

It is YOUR type who are the problem. While you make a few credible observations, you frequently go overboard.

You do not strike me as someone who loves his country one bit. If you got to power, I'm convinced you will rob the nation blind.

asorocker:
Arewa is at it again, the same kind of poor thinking and wrong logistics that prcecipated the civil war causing them and yorubas to loose countless number of soldiers against poorly armed biafrans.

The core north west and north east of 8 states ( sokoto, zamfara,kano,kebbi,borno,yobe,katsina,jigawa,) cannot seccede alone.
Less than a quater of nigeria , it will be another  3 years war to end it[b] unless the remaining 28 states do not care.[/b]

Mind you kaduna , gombe,adamawa,taraba,bauchi is mixed and can't be considered core north.

The do not have the best fighting soldiers nor do they have the money to bring in arsenals from UK, US ,russia  or china. Any seccession not backed by these 3 super powers will fail woefully.

spyder880:
I may be a prophet, hehehehehehe!
A friend from Kano state called to tell me just few moments ago that he has gotten a Yoruba girl to marry him, more integration, more 'Nigerian' mixed blood. Good!

udezue:
More like the MIDGET of Africa.

jason123:
Just cash, MJB,  etc

You guys are not serious. GEJ was referring to the NON-PDP members of the SW. There is a difference between forgiving him and trying to twist his word which insults our intelligence. The SW would probably still vote for him but he cannot say he was not referring to Fashola and co.

Justcash:
[b]Ofcourse as a PDP member, he'd wish for his party to have Lagos state.

"SOUTH WEST IS TOO SOPHISTICATED TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF RASCALS.", This statement is the reason for the whole issue that was raised.

Now to say SOUTH WEST IS TOO SOPHISTICATED means that he gat a high regard for the south west.  The fact that he said "TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF RASCALS" means that SW must not be left in the hands of rascals. It doesn't mean that the SW is in the hands of rascals. He implied that the SW is too important "TO BE" left in the hands of rascals (Which could be anybody, without specific reference to the present). If he said "TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF ACN AND LABOUR PARTY RASCALS" then it would have been another story.

Once again as a PDP member, his wish is to capture as many states as possible, hence the last statement.

His statement did not insult anybody. It gave prestige to the SW as a whole.
IF TRULY HE WAS REFERRING TO OTHER PARTY LEADERS, THEN WHY DID IT TAKE A REGIONAL DIMENSION? SOUTH WESTERNERS TOOK OFFENSE. SHOULDN'T IT BE ACN AND LABOUR PARTY MEMBERS THAT SHOULD BE OFFENDED? OR ARE THESE PARTIES NOT FIELDING CANDIDATES THAT WILL CONTEST AGAINST JONATHAN? RIBADU HAVE BEEN QUITE VOCAL ABOUT THE DANGERS OF ELECTING PDP. HE HAS BEEN QUITE DIRECT IN HIS REFERENCES. SO, WHY IS HE CALLING FOR GEJ'S HEAD FOR AN UNCLEAR STATEMENT?"
Anyway I aint a PDP member. I actually prefer Ribadu more, but I'm just being fair.[/b]

koruji:
Election time is here again, and time for Gen. OBJ to harp on this fraud of an idea called "Nigerian Unity". In the name of Nigerian Unity they have seized the instrument of state for 50 years, and then proceed to do and/or allow great acts of disunity. That Nigeria is not united 50 years into this experiment shows that the unitary turn taken in 1966 has been a disaster that must be reversed.

Does PDP plan to win this election for GEJ by playing this same tired, old, fraudulent song of "Nigerian unity"? The guy can campaign, but cannot take frontal action concerning the Jos crisis - if he handles this with swiftness and justice there will not be much campaigning needed to win. Nigerians are not animals, they will recognize genuine leadership when it shows up.

If the people cannot eat $#&@ unity; if they are dying by the hundreds due to religious, ethnic, etc conflagrations $#&@ unity; if it is an excuse for one part to impose itself on the others $#&@ unity, if it is an excuse to foster another round of mediocrity on the good people of Nigeria, $#&@ unity.

Let's substitute that word "unity" for "progress", individual and national. If disunity brings us progress then so be it - let each state forge ahead, then see others follow in a hurry. As long as everyone is lackadaisically proclaiming empty unity, while rotating in place, even unity will be far from our doorsteps.

aloy/emeka:
[size=14pt]Nigeria’s unity fragile -OBJ[/size]

FORMER president, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, on Saturday took a critical look at the 51 years of existence of the country and concluded that the “unity of Nigeria is fragile.”


Obasanjo said he was apprehensive about the continued unity of the country because[b] those who had enjoyed the greatest benefits of this country “are not doing enough to keep the unity of the country.”[/b]

The former president observed that “thieves and barons of divisions on ethnic, religious, linguistic bases have taken over the country; what a shame, what a great shame. I believe that all of us who God has put in position must rise to correct the situation.

“It is not enough that our individual states are forging ahead; we all must be together. If we do not make it great it (Nigeria), it will not be the fault of God.

alj harem:
if you are yoruba, you really do not know the people you are dealing with

SMH

Obiagu1:
That is not my point. All humans may have a common ancestor.

My point is that, as we found ourselves in Nigeria, we all came from different areas at different times. Those areas we migrated from have diverged remarkedly that they are already dissimilar to the common ancestor of every human.

If, for instance, the Yoruba migrated from point A in Africa and the Igbo and the Edo migrated from the same point A, then we may be similar but in reality we all migrated from point A, B, C that are already dissimilar.

I was reading one article and the author, not Nigerian, was pointing to other peoples that migrated alongside the Igbos from the same location but they ended up in different parts of Africa in Keyna and Uganda and probably in other African countries as well.

Very interesting food for thought, I'm absolutely fascinated with this subject and as you know there are competing theories. If I find any info to shed further light on this I will share it 

Obiagu1:
Where are the proofs?

Obiagu1:
I'm tired of this. WE DON'T SHARE ANY COMMON ANCESTOR WITH ANYONE.
There's no proof. I can't understand Yoruba neither can I understand Ibibio or Idoma.
A mere similarity of a few words does not equate common ancestory.
We should stop this.

Ozin:
This is a new generation,I totally agree with you,but we must not turn it to a lawless geneartion.

What lawlessness, how is having a public debate between public officials at different levels synonymous to 'Lawlessness', huh

What laws will be broken?

I swear people just seem to make things up as they go along! Let us stick to the issues, Fashola's ethnicity is irrelevant.

alj harem:
look my brother, i have to be honest with you

me as a northerner do not like boko harem

i do not like killing of anybody be it southerners or northerners

there is nothng like born-to-rule

i love my southerner brother, both yorubas and igbos

but seperation will not solve the problem we have now in nigeria

i clearly do not like our so-call northern leader,.,., atiku, ciroma and co because they do not care about us but about thier pockets

i believe southerners and northerners can unite to chase this leaders away since it is not particular to the north but occurs in the south as well

i believe in western education, i mean that is why i schooled in lagos

fstranger3:
And you typed this epistle just for one person?

Let him be and face your own problem.  Mumu.

One south ko, diametrically opposed.

You keep repeating the same thing you found on some Hilary Clinton poster like that makes you sound intelligent.

With all your silly intelligence, Alhaji Harem still has more common sense than you.

EzeUche_:
The Aro thread was a historical thread and that thread was create before you even came to Nairaland. Your mentioning of a thread concerning my people is a red herring and does not serve the purpose you are trying to put in other's minds.

The educational achievements of the Ndigbo are highly documented in various threads on Nairaland. Here is a collection of these threads that discuss Igbo achievements in that field with provided sources:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-261472.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-223727.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-262729.0.html


http://jambng.com/app_ume.php

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http://jambng.com/adm_ume.php


It is always good to back up your statements with sources. Igbos are doing fine in the realm of education. Now I would like to see people deny these facts. Igbos are scientist, engineers, economist, poets, authors etc. And we keep on achieving. It is very sad that an Igbo who has never been to Nigeria to think Igbos are having an intellectual stagnation. That is slap in the face of people like Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, Chinua Achebe, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala etc.

[b]LEARN TO SEPARATE POLITICS FROM A PEOPLE. [/b]That will help you in this world, because for the most part, I do not know if Nigerian politicians represent the people.

alj harem:
and do you still want to form a utopia nation with likes of ezeuche that believe aro people are supirior to any other group even thereyoruba counterpart that are clearly better than igbos both in education and other aspect but do not boast like this man

matazzmagi:
solution!! Igbos will gather their people from every nook and cranny of Nigeria and those other ethnicities that want to remain Nigerians will perpetually remain so. Igbo will never be used as a buffer to be short-changed at the 11 hour. Vital decisions regarding destiny must be made now. It may be made with hate, fear, jealousy, malice, phantom ideas or commonsense.Hope you understand!!

matazzmagi:
^^^ Biafran traducers are using all manner of broad-brushing to implicate 40 million people. The Igbo and their neighbors are united and have expressed that unity several times but their unjustified haters deliberately refuse to acknowledge that. It is, however, an acknowledgment of no critical benefit to Biafrans.Sorry but some nigerians are Treacherous, back-biting, malicious liar.The one million Nigerian dead bodies that Gowon and his cowardly army that got British and Russians to fight for them, seem to have disappeared from the radar since after the war. Why ain't Nigerians seeking the very important information on their casualties.

EzeUche_:
Come on now Ikengawo. I was starting to warm up to you and then you write this nonsense. Igbos are doing better than any other group intellectually. Do not allow our political situation to cloud your mind. Get to know the common Igbo man and you will have your answers.

Take these few words of advice, do not talk about Igbo issues in front of other groups. It can be used against us. As the Americans say, "do not show your dirty laundry."

Do you see other groups doing that on Nairaland? The answer is NO so STOP IT.

professorb:
House, please help me out with this question:

Is Nigeria's problem bad leadership or weak "followership"? We were having this argument after we watched what just happened in Tunisia and Egypt. To me, i believe that bad leadership can be stopped by strong followership, and didn't Obama ask us to build strong institutions? Why arent we able to stop the deceitful people in government even with our huge population?

awardeez:
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5388690-146/Chukwuma_Soludo_is_living_large_.csp

Three years ago the Central Bank governor, Chukwuma Soludo, installed his wife, Nonye, and their two children in a mansion bought for half a billion naira in the tony London suburb of Brondesbury Park.

One of their two children is enrolled at Ampleforth College, an elite parochial school known as “the Catholic Eton,” and where the Central Bank governor pays an annual fee of £25,000 for this privilege— roughly half his annual salary. The other child attends a similarly expensive public school— which in Britain actually means private school— so that in theory Mr. Soludo’s entire earnings of about N12 million a year hardly covers his children’s school fees.

Since he was appointed by former President Olusegun Obasanjo to his current position five years ago, Mr. Soludo, who was a university lecturer before joining the Obasanjo administration, has demonstrated a taste for high living, travelling in convoys of as many as seven vehicles, impeccably and expensively dressed in bespoke suits and heirloom watches, and generally enjoying a lifestyle that cannot be afforded by anyone earning about N1 million a month.

The mansion occupied by his family in the exclusive London suburb is registered to Universal Energy Limited, an offshore company controlled by Emmanuel Ojei, the flamboyant tycoon with many business interests, including oil and gas.

It is not clear under what arrangement the Soludos live in this £2.1 million home; Mr. Soludo is not telling us. He has spent the past three weeks avoiding us and made promises to answer our questions that he has not kept, hoping that we will simply go away.

Damn, you're good, I just wanted to confirm that all of this is completely true, I know the house very well

9ja voice:
Mr.Jason the rascal GEJ call yoruba's are not to equate with what edwin clark calls igbo's and what obasanjo calls igbo's. you see! 'a friend that talks ill of me is still better than an enemy that butcher's my family with cutlas an guns' ok.  

if southern nigeria can unite then we can save NC if they ask for it. And after if we don't want to continue moving along togetger then we can still part our seperate ways. which do you prefare 'an igbo man that goes to church where yoruba's are pastor's or an hausa man that can never pray in a musque(in northern) a yoruba is an iman.   the evil i see in yoruba's,igbo's,ijaws etc are not to compare what hausa/fulani is doing to other tribe's in daily bases.

The truth that is undisputable is that the unity of igbo's and roruba's is simply the libration of nigeria and alsodownfall of hausa/fulani's.