₦airaland Forum

Mobinga:
Why are you blabbing? You act like you are new in Nigeria. Are you a full blown Nigerian or a Nigerian living in the comfort of your British/American home?

Mai Suya:
Really? then [i]WTF [/i]was MASSOB all about?

Mai Suya:
Really? then [i]WTF [/i]was MASSOB all about?

Mobinga:
Did you smoke? What is MASSOB for?

Ikengawo:
For a people once infinite in intellectual endowment, i've come to see the shadow of Biafra has left us stagnate.
Our people, once the origin of nearly all of Africa's new ideas, cannot even address the problems that face us without blanking 'Biafra' as a solution.

We were the ones that in all reality liberated Nigeria from the British and asked the 3 tribes to stay united, but we act as if we're less Nigerian, or Nigeria is less ours then anyone else's then quickly wonder why we're politically irrelevant.

We pioneered this continent time and time again, and now we can't see and issue that everyone else is solving for themselves with real solutions without a lost multitude scream biafra and blaming all our problems, which we created ourselves, on 'marginalization' and speaking of succession.
We seem to have totally lost focus due to a lack of real ideas.


when someone speaks of corruption we speak of seperation as opposed to a solution
when someone speaks of kidnapping we speak of seperation

any problem that afflicts us, the failed idea of seperation from a nation we built is instantly blurted as a solution and real discourse and problem solving is not achieved. When did the most capable people on planet earth become perpetual victims?

Kobojunkie:
You have made a big mistake here. The President NEVER pretended to have skills of any kind. As a matter of fact, Fashola happened to have been one of those, who about this time last year protested to have a man, with NO RECORDS OF ACHIEVEMENTS AS STATE GOVERNOR, installed as Acting President, and then President.

What skills do we now want him to show us?

erastus75:
You then think you have a dumb as a President huh? He will not be able to defend his policies,actions and inactions abi? Come off this crap and let us remember that, it is all about politics(permanent interest and no permanent friend)

KenGali:
Fashola is really over reaching his credentials here. He is a Governor on an ethnic party challenging The President and Presidential aspirant of the only National Party in Nigeria to a debate. Does that mean his party has no other person at the level of Presidential Aspiration to challenge GEJ or rather the He is not too satisfied with Ribadu's response. Fashola may be doing well, but it is not lost to people outside Lagos that he is only refurbishing Roads and Faclities built with Federal Fund and by FG, his major works are simply beautification inspite of the huge revenue from tax.

Fortunately or Unfortunately, ACN failed to see the moves entailed in GEJ's comments. It was an attack meant for Ribadu with several hydra heads, but ultimately culminating in Ribadu reminding the electorate that he is subject to an ethnic party and shreading off the false "progressives" cloth AC is trying to veil herself with.

Even with all the SW media uproar, with the words "I am a proud rascal" from Ribadu, when GEJ only adressed SW leaders, Ribadu is clothing himself with a strong yourba coloured cloth. If GEJ exercerbates this and forces Ribadu and his sponsors to keep responding, He may not get votes from the SW which he aready expects, but Ribadu will not get votes outside the SW, even from the North (the main reason why AC selected him).

cap28:
I'll change the record when you face up to reality and stop pretending as if what happened in the past has no bearing on what is happening to the black race today.

The fact that you as a black person had to leave your own country and go abroad to acheive a decent standard of living indicates that you along with many african people ARE directly affected by africa's past legacy ie colonialism and exploitation of our economies by the west.  If you and a european person with the same qualifications were to go to live in any part of africa today to look for the same type of employment , the european would have access to better employment opportunities than you, the same principle would apply if both of you were to go to australia, canada, south africa, far east asia and the carribean - there is nowhere in the world that any black person has an equal chance with a european - even in africa - why do you think that is the case?

You say black man solidarity is a vain and pointless concept - funny you should say that because whites dont think that at all - thats why they set up NATO, the IMF, the world bank WTO etc, they know unlike you that real power comes from collective organisation and thats why they control how you and i live in this world, whether you want to accept it or not you do not have the same opportunities in this world as your white or even asian counterparts.  Whites unlike blacks prefer to identify with their own people, you only have to travel outside europe or north america and see how expatriate whites always stick together and network amongst their own people, ive been to countries in africa where whites live in gated communities and do not interact with the indigenous people, i also have friends who've worked in the middle east and its the same thing there too - white expatriates stick together and prefer to be around their own people, how come its only blacks who don't think its necessary to maintain solidarity with their own?

Since you beleive that black solidarity is pointless - id like to hear what your own solutions are.

Beaf:
The day Nigeria breaks up will be a funny day indeed!
Peeps like Buhari will become warlords for their areas, while they fight to the finish with their neighbours over who will be the next mugu for their cabals to tranfer their parasitic attention to.

That day, many will suddenly realise the favour the rest of the country has done in hosting their vast almajiri population. On that day they will realise what a burden those 10 million urchins really are. . . A population greater than two thirds of the Worlds countries figures.

It will be a day when an almighty scramble for tickets and visa's to the new El Dorado across the Southern borders will begin in earnest.

A day of solemn realisation, chest beating and gnashing of teeth as the despised former country women and men begin to look like gods overnight.

What a day that will be!

Tsiya:

The gov't is trying. I can attest to that. However the elite do not like it. Simply because the almajiri brings an immediate source of cheap labour and gratification for the wealthy for giving out alms as part of religious obligations.

One of the reasons why Buhari is hated by the elites as well as most religious leaders was banning of the almajiri system in 1984. I remember then Buhari didn't even waste time to try to placate them or dish out free money. Being a good Muslim, he knows it is the responsibility of the parents and the rights of a child for the parents to provide him/her with accommodation, food, education and train him/her untill puberty. It is against the tenets of Islam to send a child to beg for alms, food etc.

Personally I think the Federal government shouldn't have gone down to wasting resources in building special quranic schools. The Federal Government should have gone ahead and implement the laws in the Nigerian constitution.

First, it is the responsibility of local governments to provide primary eduction, and each local government collects federal allocation, and therefore they should dedicate part of their budget for providing universal education for their children based on the requirements of their society. If states government in the north can implement sharia legal systems, they should be able to incorporate Islamic education in their curriculum at primary and secondary schools level. After that, any parent or individual that want to further their education in Islamic studies, they should do it either in the University or private seminary schools. This is how it is done even in majority Islamic nations. There are no almajiri in Saudi, Malaysia or Indonesia.

The almajiri programme is purely lack of understanding the fundamental rights of children. Child maintenance should be made compulsory. No child should be allowed to beg for food on the street.

adisalago:
Please if you write a silly book,

don't invite Sanusi Lamido Sanusi to make a presentation. ,

I guess Olaniwun Ajayi has learnt from this.

Sanusi faults Olaniwun Ajayi on Northern domination

The Central Bank Governor, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi,

surprised guests present at the Muson Centre for the launching of the

book of Sir Olaniwun Ajayi at the Muson Centre in Lagos .

The book titled:

" Nigeria, Africa's Failed Asset" attracted many important dignitaries, intellectuals and some governors. The argument by discussants centered on whether or not the colonial masters laid the foundation for the problems Nigeria is currently facing.

Many argued that the British loved the North and that was why it gave more than 50 percent of the National Assembly seats to the North at independence.

Sanusi, however, stole the show when he spoke. His speech was anchored on the plank that the British and Nigerian rulers are responsible for the state of the situation Nigeria finds itself today.

Below is his unedited speech.

"Let me start by saying that I am Fulani (laughter). My grandfather was an Emir and therefore, I represent all that has been talked about this afternoon. Sir Ajayi has written a book. And like all Nigerians of his generation, he has written in the language of his generation.

"My grandfather was a Northerner, I am a Nigerian. The problem with this country is that in 2009, we speak in the language of 1953. Sir Olaniwun can be forgiven for the way he spoke, but I cannot forgive people of my generation speaking in that language.

"Let us go into this issue because there are so many myths that are being bandied around. Before colonialism, there was nothing like Northern Nigeria . Before the Sokoto Jihad, there was nothing like the Sokoto caliphate. The man from Kano regard himself as bakane. The man from Zaria was bazazzage. The man from Katsina was bakatsine. The kingdoms were at war with each other. They were Hausas, they were Muslims, they were killing each other.

"The Yoruba were Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akoko, Egba. When did they become one? When did the North become one? You have the Sokoto Caliphate that brought every person from Adamawa to Sokoto and said it is one kingdom. They now said it was a Muslim North.

"The Colonialists came, put that together and said it is now called the Northern Nigeria .

Do you know what happened? Our grand fathers were able to transform to being Northerners. We have not been able to transform to being Nigerians.The fault is ours.

Tell me, how many governors has South West produced after Awolowo that are role models of leadership? How many governors has the East produced like Nnamdi Azikiwe that can be role models of leadership? How Many governors in the Niger Delta are role models of leadership? Tell me. There is no evidence statistically that any part of this country has produced good leaders.

You talk about Babangida and the economy. Who were the people in charge of the economy during Babangida era? Olu Falae, Kalu Idika Kalu. What state are they from in the North?

"We started the banking reform; the first thing I heard was that in Urobo land, that there will be a curse of the ancestors. I said they (ancestors) would not answer. They said why? I said how many factories did Ibru build in Urobo land? So, why will the ancestors of the Urobo people support her?

"We talk ethnicity when it pleases us. It is hypocrisy. You said elections were rigged in 1959, Obasanjo and Maurice Iwu rigged election in 2007. Was it a Southern thing? It was not. "The problem is: everywhere in this country, there is one Hausa, Ibo, Yoruba and Itshekiri man whose concern is how to get his hands on the pile and how much he can steal.

Whether it is in the military or in the civilian government, they sit down, they eat together. In fact, the constitution says there must be a minister from every state.

"So, anybody that is still preaching that the problem of Nigeria is Yoruba or Hausa or Fulani, he does not love Nigeria . The problem with Nigeria is that a group of people from each and every ethnic tribe is very selfish. The poverty that is found in Maiduguri is even worse than any poverty that you find in any part of the South.

The British came for 60 years and Sir Ajayi talked about few numbers of graduates in the North (two at independence) . What he did not say was that there was a documented policy of the British when they came that the Northerner should not be educated. It was documented. It was British colonial policy. I have the document. I have published articles on it. That if you educate the Northerner you will produce progressive Muslim intellectuals of the type we have in Egypt

and India. So, do not educate them. It was documented. And you say they love us (North).

"I have spent the better part of my life to fight and Dr. (Reuben) Abati knows me. Yes, my grandfather was an Emir. Why was I in the pro-democracy movement fighting for June 12? Is (Moshood) Abiola from Kano ? Why am I a founding director of the Kudirat Initiative for Nigerian Development (KIND)?

"There are good Yoruba people, good Igbo people, good Fulani people, good Nigerians and there are bad people everywhere. That is the truth. "Stop talking about dividing Nigeria because we are not the most populous country in the world. We have all the resources that make it easy to make one united great Nigeria . It is better if we are united than to divide it.

"Every time you talk about division, when you restructure, do you know what will happen? In Delta Area, the people in Warri will say Agbor, you don't have oil. When was the Niger Delta constructed as a political entity? Ten years ago, the Itshekiris were fighting the Urobos. Isn't that what was happening? Now they have become Niger Delta because they have found oil. After, it will be, if you do not have oil in your village then you cannot share our resources.

"There is no country in the world where resources are found in everybody's hamlet. But people have leaders and they said if you have this geography and if we are one state, then we have a responsibility for making sure that the people who belong to this country have a good nature.

"So, why don't you talk about; we don't have infrastructure, we don't have education, we don't have health. We are still talking about Fulani. Is it the Fulani cattle rearer or is anybody saying there is no poverty among the Fulani?", he said.

This is a great message to our generation.

Are we truly ready to develop and unite Nigeria?


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houvest:
@ShangoThor

Your vission is good but if this campaign on Nl will succeed, there are so many bigots and supremacists on both sides that you need to address. I need not name names. You only need to open almost every thread to see them. They keep pulling the east and west apart and are  roaming freely on NL. They have been there even before this certain harem came. He only saw what was on the ground and is capitalizing on it. We have talked and talked to break the empasse and even appealed to the mods all to no avail. You will be shocked to hear the response of some of the mods. They will tell you that there are also bigots from your side of the divide as if you are asking them to call only one side to order. You will see somebody banned today and two days after he is up and running again with even worse diatribes. Thanks however for the campaign but I still think that you should not write off the  North completely till they are given enough chances and they fluff them all. True federalism might be a better and more possible option.

houvest:
@ShangoThor

Your vission is good but if this campaign on Nl will succeed, there are so many bigots and supremacists on both sides that you need to address. I need not name names. You only need to open almost every thread to see them. They keep pulling the east and west apart and are  roaming freely on NL. They have been there even before this certain harem came. He only saw what was on the ground and is capitalizing on it. We have talked and talked to break the empasse and even appealed to the mods all to no avail. You will be shocked to hear the response of some of the mods. They will tell you that there are also bigots from your side of the divide as if you are asking them to call only one side to order. You will see somebody banned today and two days after he is up and running again with even worse diatribes. Thanks however for the campaign but I still think that you should not write off the  North completely till they are given enough chances and they fluff them all. True federalism might be a better and more possible option.