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We now live in a world of perverts where every action is viewed from a prism of erotics. I see absolutely nothing wrong in this. When are we ever going to start living and behaving like normal human beings again?

Orunmila ooo

Chaiii home sweet home!

My oracle said there is no problem but you must do sacrifice otherwise there is fire on the mountain

Buhari has done well!

So many senseless and shameless folks on this thread.

In a few years progressive Nigerians from the North, East, South and West will look back and thank NDA for freeing Nigeria from blood oil!

Stealing is not corruption.

Faka is the best.

What if I fellowship solely by watching and participating in church service online or on TV while I give back to God simply by giving a chunk of my income to the poor, the needy and charities?

This is exactly how some people become destitutes in America. I pray and reject that for him but I doubt if he knows how precarious his situation is. If things go south the 'handsomeness' will be totally unrecognizable in a matter of months.

Poorly planned relocation attempts like this are even worse for women. Several have been passed around and even ended up becoming mentally unstable and with many children from different men enticing them with promises of helping file their papers to regularize their stay.

Back to the guy, as some have stated it's down to 2 obvious choices - stay and hope for some divine intervention or go back and plan again since visa is still valid. If staying better start going out to malls and other places and target some 'not too pretty' but nice women but be prepared to live in bondage for years if it works out.

If God bails you out of this you will deeply respect those who are doing well abroad.

9jacrip:
Uncle, go & read or conduct independent research.

After you've armed yourself with indepth scholarly data then we can go back and forth.

You're not bringing anything to the table with your pedestrian jibes.

Again bros, the history of Oyo is fully manifested in the culture and tradition of the people of the old empire. No amount of Hitler style 'scholarly' lies and distortions in the name of academic research can change it. Oyos know their history and they know about the priest in Ife. Stop wasting your time

9jacrip:
Inception?

This guy na olodo o.

Oyo of 13/14th century na him be inception?

Here is Ooni Aderemi validating your Alaafin

Hahahahaha olodo now I understand the cause of your ignorance regarding validation. So thist is your academic 'historical' proof of Oonis validating the Alaafin? . Do you have a picture of any priest Ooni validating any other Alaafin especially the most recent one? For your enlightenment, what you saw there was an act of the government of the old Western Region with the descendant of the priest of Ife colluding with politicians led by Awolowo to gain relevance as Governor-General of the colonial region.
In essence, the priest who never ruled any empire or real kingdom became the Governor-General backed by the laws of that time .

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9jacrip:
I knew you had to be Oyo!

So Oyo knows history of Ife better than Ife, interesting. If you want to learn Ife history, listen to what Ife history says and not what Oyo thinks Ife history is about. No one can tell the history of someone else better than the person.


1. Oduduwa didn't 'came to' Ife. Oduduwa was from Ife in Oke Ora, he only saw a 'weakness' in Obatala and usurped power. Oduduwa was in Ife with Obatala, Oreluere, Baba Sigidi, Osangangan Obamakin, Oluorogbo, Orunmila, Gbonkaa etc

2. Oranmiyan was in Oyo, he came back after long after Oduduwa had passed.

3. My previous post said all Oduduwa's children met at Ita Ajero where they deliberated and agreed on moving out of Ife. And no, Oranmiyan was not 'entitled' to the throne, he only didn't want to lose the seat back to the people his father waged a war against to have.

4. Oduduwa was no stranger, he was from Ife living ag Oke Ora. Read up man, this thing had been discussed execissvely on NL.

5. There was peace & tranquility. The two wars Ife experienced were that of Oduduwa against Obatala then that of Oranmiyan against Obalufon. Oranmiyan may have come to Ife with a retinue of soldiers from Oyo but Obalufon like Obatala was never a soldier and had no chance against a battle like Oranmiyan anyways.

6. Ife is the only town in Yoruba land & history that never had a standing army. We never fought any wars and wars were never brought to us. Our first attempt with Owu had us badly beaten till Ijebu came to our rescue. Modakeke beat us a number of times until the last war.

How is Alaafin the head? By divine right or by military conquest? If by military conquest, did the towns he subdued revolt and conquered him for their independence or not?

Oyo, like Owu, like Ibadan, like Ijebu, like Idanre, like Ondo all had one thing in common - military might that faded.

Towns had already fought for and won independence before Oyo fell, Oyo has fallen and what we have now is a make shift Oyo. No town is under Oyo. Ibadan rivals Oyo side by side now as peers. Alaafin is like any other king in Yoruba land, there's no military might to fetch him any clout, fear or to coerce towns under him.

Let these sink in.

Loads of trash that started surfacing under the immediate past Ooni and being passed as history .
Again, Oyo history is clear about this and whatever you have discussed extensively on NL won't change it. While at it, Oyo was an Empire. If you know what that means. We don't have a lot of them in African history

9jacrip:
You're the one with comprehension problems and a very blocked head.

Your mental capability is so low that you said Oono is no royalty with no hostorical evidences and knowing fully well Oranmiyan who founded Oyo stool also founded the present Ife dynasty.

Ooni is no priest, Ooni relies heavily on Isooro to do anything that has to do with Yoruba religion.

Oyo's power relied heavily on military which is never everlasting. The towns Oyo lorded over were coerced, none voluntarily recognizes Oyo as ultimate and when the time presented itself they waged war, defeated Oyo & cut it to size.

If the towns were under Oyo since inception then your argument for Oyo's superiority would have been valid. If we go by your premise of Oyo's power then we can as well say Ibadan os greater than Oyo considering around 19th century Ibadan called the shots in Yoruba land and Oyo hid under it.

Lesson: never ever use military might to judge greatness, it makes no sense.

Keep in mind, Ife crowns & validates Oyo kings - what is more royalty than that?

I see you are no longer laughing
Again, your lies here are irrelevant in Oyo history and Ife does not crown or validate the Alaafin. Ooni is a priest and not a royalty. That is Oyo history from inception. It won’t change in 2016 as a result of any distortion or academic rascality. O pari!

Bassee:
Jonathan met 5000km of motorable roads when he came in, when he left we had 25,000km of motorable roads.

So some people actually got fooled with those PDP fabricated figures?

So Obasanjo has the best record so far?

quickly:
The story of oyo and ife is like the story of a child becoming richer and more powerful than his father.

The first ooni was in ife and his grandson established alaafin in oyo. Oyo later became more powerful because of oranmiyan personality.

Read the history of the yorubas a book written in.the 1800 s by Rev Johnsons. Rev Johnson was an Abeokuta man

Sorry, that is not Oyo history. If that is Ife history then they are entitled to their version but it can't be imposed on the Oyos. Again, in Oyo history the Ooni is a priest and he is not biologically related to Oduduwa. If it was that simple we won't have any Alaafin/Ooni tussle for years.

9jacrip:
Looooooooooool




I suppose the Awujale, Alake Egba, Osemawe Ondo, Olu of Warri, Deji Akure, Ogunsuwa Modakeke, Owa Ilesa are all superior to the Ooni and equals with Alaafin for Ooni to have visited.

Such wisdom you have sir.

Looks like you have comprehension issues bros and you somehow managed to confuse that with wisdom. I never said Ooni's visit has anything to do with the issue of superiority. I see his visit as a departure from the cul-de-sac of superiority claims.
You made a stupid statement that the Alaafin and the Oyos are ignorant of history and now you are making stuffs up. Oyo history is clear that Oranmiyan is a direct offspring of Oduduwa. It is also clear in stating that the royalty belongs to Oranmiyan and that the Ooni is a priest not a royalty. This has been Oyo history for centuries. The arithmetic of the king of Ife being automatically superior because Oduduwa settled in and died in Ife is not a fact of history in Oyo Yoruba. Oyos have NEVER ever been subjects of any priest or Oba at Ife. It did not happen in the 15th or 18th century and it won't happen in 2016. That's where re-writing history from now till the end of time using today's mindset won't change anything. Let the Ooni concentrate on the development of his people and let the Alaafin do the same while they are still constitutionally recognized

9jacrip:
Looooooooooool




I suppose the Awujale, Alake Egba, Osemawe Ondo, Olu of Warri, Deji Akure, Ogunsuwa Modakeke, Owa Ilesa are all superior to the Ooni and equals with Alaafin for Ooni to have visited.

Such wisdom you have sir.

Looks like you have comprehension issues bros and you somehow managed to confuse that with wisdom. I never said Ooni's visit has anything to do with the issue of superiority. I see his visit as a departure from the cul-de-sac of superiority claims.
You made a stupid statement that the Alaafin and the Oyos are ignorant of history and now you are making stuffs up. Oyo history is clear that Oranmiyan is a direct offspring of Oduduwa. It is also clear in stating that the royalty belongs to Oranmiyan and that the Ooni is a priest not a royalty. This has been Oyo history for centuries. The arithmetic of the king of Ife being automatically superior because Oduduwa settled in and died in Ife is not a fact of history in Oyo Yoruba. Oyos have NEVER ever been subjects of any priest or Oba at Ife. It did not happen in the 15th or 18th century and it won't happen in 2016. That's where re-writing history from now till the end of time using today's mindset won't change anything. Let the Ooni concentrate on the development of his people and let the Alaafin do the same while they are still constitutionally recognized.

9jacrip:
Lies & stupidity eh?

Yes sir. Lies and stupidity! The current Ooni knows that this path leads nowhere hence his visit to the Alaafin earlier this year for peace and progress. The Oyos, from their very beginning, have never seen the Ooni as a king. It won’t change in 2016 because someone somewhere made claims he has a different version of their history.
Let Ooni continue with his highly commendable progressive moves but arrogating any form of supremacy over Alaafin is an alien notion and won't start in 2016.

9jacrip:
Ooni'risa is a short form form Ooni Orisa - Ooni the Orisa.

Why? Because total number of Orisa is 201, Ooni is the 201st, the last & only Orisa that is in human form.

Ooni was never a priest, matter of priesthood was the job of Isoro.

Ife is divided into two - Otun & Osi (right & left)

The right is made up of the political class headed by Oduduwa (Ooni).

The left is made up of the priestly class headed by Obatala (Isooro).

The only reason Alaafin doesn't want to fall in line is because Oyo has its own version of Ife history which he and many Oyo stay basking in - ignorance.

Pls stop these lies and stupidity. It helps no one.

Legend! Rest in perfect peace the great one!

Very familiar with both cities and I won't hesitate to pick Ibadan in this situation. More peace of mind and more time away from traffic that could be used to learn more and develop yourself, some even get home from work in Ibadan with enough time to have a cool bath and set out to play Tennis or other recreation every day. If you are entrepreneurial you have time to plan and implement your business. It is also possible in Lagos depending on where you live and proximity to your workplace but that's not typical for most people. From IB, Lagos is not far if you want to spend occasional weekends there for leisure or networking.

Take the Lagos job and the attached chaotic lifestyle and by 2026 you start wondering how 10 years went by so fast! However I perfectly understand those who are 100% comfortable with Lagos life. They can't live anywhere else for any amount and they love it.

Norajones:
dear, do you how many lies he must av told his wife just to go get some cheap sex outside when he can get a free one inside his house. His wife believed and trusted him, he deserved worse, no one is 100% righteous,me myself I'm not even up to 50% buh when it comes to matter of trust I exceed 100% cos trust is the only currency with value. God forgives,I don't. Guess that's why I'm human afterall.

So sharing of resources is now a crime? Abeg Baba Ilorin died due to health complication not because of this humanitarian sharing.

An illiterate is someone with 'certificate' who believes there was no budget padding throughout PDP's 16 years of stealing (not corruption) simply because stuffs like that were no big deal under the ineffectual buffoon and his predecessors

bukynkwuenu:
what madness is greater than the budget drama...fuel scarcity....aimless travels...ZomBie

receive sense in gej's name

How old were you 16 years ago? Well, may the Lord restore the years that the locusts hath eaten

PDP? After 16 full calendar years in power?

suco01:
Frm a car AC technician dat i asked, he told me d more u change d car AC frm low to medium to high and d engine change sounds, it consume more fuels dats y u see pple mostly stay on low to maintain a cool environment in d car to avoid more fuel consumption... To confirm hw true is dis, i disconnect my Uncle Hyundai H1 fuel hose frm tank into a 1litre fuel jerican and i put d mini bus ignition on and put d AC on low and i time it, i repeated d same 1litre fuel for medium and Hi. I dicovered the fuel consumed while d AC is on Hi vanish very fast than when in Low. Bt i dont knw 4 other cars oo. I rest ma case

Don't know how you did the hose to jerry can thing but please don't ever try that again jeez!