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Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 4:04pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
Murderer, What is the topic of the thread?
You are a shameless liar, how low can you go?

Why are you lying on me, bring where i supported it.
I mean I don't mind you continue lying that's what run in your unfortunate family, that's why you can lie so easily to defend zombies walking in 1st century Palestine
😂

The real question is why do you Christians think of the most extreme cases when people reject your tales, only you have been mentioning all these sex change words since and twisting my replies.
You are sick and you will do anything to defend your Jewish god.
Obviously u don't see the problem.
I'm proud of my family who believe in a Jewish God. Nothing wrong with it.
But you are not proud of your paedophilia family who raised u a fa.ggot, I will not be proud either if was me.

Now the big question is were u abused as a child by
your parents?
It's common habit for paedophiles to abuse their children. This is a fact.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 3:46pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
You are a desperate man. Where did I mention kid here?
This fa.got is ashamed of his previous post.
Wonder who is desperate btw the 2 of us.

I hope u still remember the warning I gave u in that post if u persist in your despicable lifestyle.

A 2 yr old is not a body, so he/she can enter a new body if the child so desire.

See thinking o....seriously fa.got is a disease and mental disorder.
It was a serious mistake removing it from the psychiatrist list of mental disorder.
Look at the mess they are creating everywhere.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 3:27pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
Criminal like your god, it's Mary that you saw out of everything.

No, you lied that your god didn't hurt children and it did and now you are changing mouth, how low can you go?You'll support anything the bible says even all these you are condemning, you are a shameless Hypocrite, why are you no longer concerned about children been harmed?
According to U, The sky daddy is an imaginary being so whatever written about him is forgery.

Now let's talk about your parents who are real.

Does your Mum believe a child can change his/her gender since they are not a body.

Does your Dad believe a child should change his/her genitals since they are not a body.

If above is yes, then paedophilia trait runs in your family.
Simple
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 3:12pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
Why are you lying on me, bring where i supported it.
I mean I don't mind you continue lying that's what run in your unfortunate family, that's why you can lie so easily to defend zombies walking in 1st century Palestine
😂

Murderer and rapist like your creator, you support a god that kills children, rapes chidlren and virgins.
Shameless Hypocrite.


You've gone empty like your creator, you've resulted to lies like your creator.
Does it run in your family or it is religion that turn you into this? 😂😂
Is this not u. Fagg.ot.
Do U support sex change for children. Are they allowed to do anything they like with their body since children are not a body
Ode...very repulsive thinking.

Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 2:37pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
If a person is presumed dead in the hospital unless Muslims you take it tomortuary IMMEDIATELY untill Wake keep...😂
Oh, it's isolated in a room now, it's no more locked room?
Oh it's at home now not hospital?
😂.
is that person a prisoner why lock her in a room 😂

Bro what I'm curious about is "Please for how long was the woman chewing the cotton wool, and why didn't she swallow it? Mama sef no wan die again 😂"
Religion has numb your thinking
See incoherence all over the place. Your thinking is like that's of a 10 yr old.
So people don't bring their dead home from hospital?
Isolated room, so they will door wide open so everybody can see the body...na tourist show.

Do U actually live in Nigeria, did u go to school in Nigeria. Did u have any interaction at all with other Nigerians?
It's better to tell people u are an alien from an unknown planet than claim to be a Nigerian.
U are just too stupid to be a Nigerian.

U no get sense. This exercise really exposed u. Not
surprised at all.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 2:31pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
Hypocrite like your creator, Mary was 12 when she was pregnant.
Yahweh told isrealites to take Virgins for themselves, do you think children won't be part of it?
Yahweh killed the first born of all Egyptians, even the son of a prisoner 🤦🏾‍♂️

You've already been condemned by the original sin so no matter what yahweh does, you'll still support him.
Bring evidence Mary was 12 when she was pregnant.
Jesus called a 12 yr old female little girl. Na correct master to follow.
Leave sky daddy alone, he's imaginary to u so whatever written about him is forgery to u.

Let's talk about your own family that is real.
Why did u turn out this way as an adult?
Too many red flags...signs is adverse childhood effects all over u? ACE is linked to dysfunctional family with abusive upbringing.
Tell us the problems in your family so we can help u..
paedophilia traits, drunken mum, abusive father, did your parents forced u to act like a girl as a child?
Now the new one we just discovered.. necrophilia.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 2:20pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
Yes they come around after being presumed dead in the hospital and the dead body was brought home, locked in a room, and in the next morning it has awaken 😂😂
Please for how long was the woman chewing the cotton wool, and why didn't she swallow it? Mama sef no wan die again 😂

Why are you lying on me, bring where i supported it.
I mean I don't mind you continue lying that's what run in your unfortunate family, that's why you can lie so easily to defend zombies walking in 1st century Palestine
😂😂

"I mean look at the Jargons you said just to defend your Jewish books, it seems religion is turning you to an insane man or does it run in your family?
I can't help you or your father but a therapist can."
The fact that this mumu doenst know dead people are isolated in a room when brought home pending funeral plan shows he obviously has poor contact with his environment. He knows nothing and has no idea how things work.
He doesn't even know some people embalm their dead at home- not supporting such act though.

So elderly people that die at home in your family,
where were they placed b4 sending them to morgue
or burying them.
So u guys put them on their bed beside their spouse? So the spouse can to do what with the dead body?
I won't take it past your family that u people engage in necrophilia.
Maybe that's why u do t know dead people are isolated in a separate room at home.
This guy too mumu.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 2:09pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
Yes they come around after being presumed dead in the hospital and the dead body was brought home, locked in a room, and in the next morning it has awaken 😂😂
Please for how long was the woman chewing the cotton wool, and why didn't she swallow it? Mama sef no wan die again 😂

Why are you lying on me, bring where i supported it.
I mean I don't mind you continue lying that's what run in your unfortunate family, that's why you can lie so easily to defend zombies walking in 1st century Palestine
😂😂

"I mean look at the Jargons you said just to defend your Jewish books, it seems religion is turning you to an insane man or does it run in your family?
I can't help you or your father but a therapist can."
Someone who believe children should change their sex at age 3 cannot be normal.
Why should u think a child should bother about their genitals.
Kids that dont even know meaning of unclothedness. Yet u want them to changing their genitals.
You are sick man, very sick possibly from a sick family.

I'm happy I come from a family that believe in a sky daddy, even if it's imaginary.
I will be sick to death to imagine coming from a family who thinks kids should be allowed to play with their genitals.
Mad people everywhere. Some families do have them.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 1:46pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
I love mythology and those books fall under it.
I mean those Stories of David and Goliath are exciting 😂

It's you that should stop basing your life on Jewish books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
I mean look at the Jargons you said here, it seems religion is turning you to an insane man or does it run in your family?
I can't help you or your father but a therapist can.

If not for religion why would a sane man say this
"When the door was opened the next morning, they found the old woman sitting on the bed chewing the cotton wool stuffed in her nose and mouth!
Rumour had it the old woman had been fortified in her younger age. She wasnt going to die easily."


Religion has numb your senses, you are defending zombies coming out as an "event" just like earthquakes 😂😂
Lots of elderly people do come around after being presumed dead. No big deal. Most cases are severe hypothermia if duly investigated, very common.
There are still claim even today of people waking up from the dead. These are facts.

Now let's talk about u.
Why do U think children should be fagots at young age. Do U embrace paedophilic act? Why do U think it's ok for children to engage in adults acts? I find it repulsive for someone to believe that
I will rather believe in an imaginary sky daddy than believe harming children is fun.
Something must be wrong with u and your family.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 1:31pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
The only person that is not getting it here is you that is basing your life on Jewish books written by unknown authors, this books condemned you with original sin, this same book gave you a Jewish man as salvation, just imagine your life without this Jewish books 😂

Yes people should ignore me, at least I have a life, you don't have a life anywhere even on naira land, your life start when you die and go to heaven.

If not that your father is unfortunate just like his own father, you won't be basing your life on these books and dumbly defending it, your defence are laughable 😂

Like i told you earlier.
"you and your father are already unfortunate and doomed at least via Adam and eve, y'all are condemned sinners.
Your life is so ruined you also believe in generational curses, is that what your Bible preaches or because you are in world capital of poverty where you blame 'pagans' for why you are unsuccessful."
Stop wasting your time quoting a book u don't believe. Forget about the book.
Let's talk about u, I'm here to help. Let's Find solution to your du.mb behaviour. Your incoherence is disturbing to any sabe mind.
Did your mum drink alcohol while pregnant for u?
Did your your dad slap your mum while pregnant for u.
Let's start from the basic then we move.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 1:11pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
This is weak , try again bro.

Take am Omo ale.
"you and your father are already unfortunate and doomed at least via Adam and eve, y'all are condemned sinners.
Your life is so ruined you also believe in generational curses, is that what your Bible preaches or because you are in world capital of poverty where you blame 'pagans' for why you are unsuccessful.

Just look at how you are defending your delusion just to continue in your slavery to the Jews.
Which right thinking person will believe this story, you didn't think before typing it?
"I know of our close family friend and neighbour whose mum was reported dead in the hospital and brought home for embalming. The body was locked up in a room overnight while the undertaker was called in to take her away. When the door was opened the next morning, they found the old woman sitting on the bed chewing the cotton wool stuffed in her nose and mouth!
Rumour had it the old woman had been fortified in her younger age. She wasnt going to die easily."

This are the nonsense that you've been made to believe and has turn you to a deranged man incapable of thinking.

Old woman was chewing cotton wool, no one heard a voice in the room until the morning 😂"
U still don't get it do U....
Your imbe.cellic behaviour is very disturbing.
People here ignore u. Nobody wants to associate with u. Your only life is nairaland u have none elsewhere.

This things are not ordinary there must be a source.
Sometimes the problem starts from pregnancy!
Was your father beating your mum while pregnant for u? Was she drinking alcohol? Did she suffer a severe infection while u were in utero.
because as an adult u are very sick. U believe children should be allowed to become fa.ggot if they want to...what kind of thinking is that?
U don't understand space and being a public nuisance. U need help bro, ask your fellow atheist for advice.

Remember we doing 10 straight page. So we just starting.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 1:03pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
you and your father are already unfortunate and doomed at least via Adam and eve, y'all are condemned sinners.
Your life is so ruined you also believe in generational curses, is that what your Bible preaches or because you are in world capital of poverty where you blame 'pagans' for why you are unsuccessful.

Just look at how you are defending your delusion just to continue in your slavery to the Jews.
Which right thinking person will believe this story, you didn't think before typing it?
"I know of our close family friend and neighbour whose mum was reported dead in the hospital and brought home for embalming. The body was locked up in a room overnight while the undertaker was called in to take her away. When the door was opened the next morning, they found the old woman sitting on the bed chewing the cotton wool stuffed in her nose and mouth!
Rumour had it the old woman had been fortified in her younger age. She wasnt going to die easily."

This are the nonsense that you've been made to believe and has turn you to a deranged man incapable of thinking.

Old woman was chewing cotton wool, no one heard a voice in the room until the morning 😂
Hahaha....
Forming detective on more than a 20 yr old story. Go and form detective on recent ones.
Or better still read about severe hypothermia in the elderly.
Ode
Go and form detective on your imbe.cillic behaviour. Your head no correct at all.
Ask your mum if she drank alcohol while she was pregnant for u or hit your head carelessly on the floor for whatever reason.
Was your pregnancy planned or u were a mistake to her. because there's a missing link someone....form detective my friend.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 12:49pm On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
Take your advice and ask your father why his life is so miserable to be basing his life on Jewish books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS and why did he afflict you with such burden.

Your life is so ruined you also believe in generational curses, is that what your Bible preaches or because you are in world capital of poverty where you blame 'pagans' for why you are unsuccessful.

Just look at you, you've become a dummy and lifeless in the name of defending your religion.
Just read your own nonsense
"the relatives thought they were alive and reported it as such. Mathew never said the bodies spoke or communicated to anybody. Instead the report said the bodies of saints were seen to be alive.
It's possible the bodies of these saints never decomposed and looked very much like a living
person which the relatives reported." 😂
Don't be unfortunate in life. Ask your father about the generation curse because u are simply borderline slowpoke.
When I first met u, I thought u here, I actually thought u had learning disability problem, with your slowpoke and erratic behaviour.
If there's no generational curse then demand from your mum why she was careless with u when u were a baby.
She must have dropped u carelessly and your immature head hit the floor. That can only be the 2 explanation for your problem.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15:
kkins25:
What da actual Fvck, bro?
Now the 2nd part of the resurrection claim exegesis.

As I said earlier, what is factual is that people claimed they saw their relatives who slept came alive.

Now if we test the validity of the claim, what will be the outcome.
Could they be lying, made it up or thought they saw their dead relatives come alive OR THEY ACTUALLY SAW THEM ALIVE.

The case above is similar to the resurrection stories we hear every time as testimony in our churches today.
It's normal even as a Christian to scrutinise such claims.
Are they lying, were they paid to come on TV to make such claims. If we verify that is not the case then could it be true?

I know of our close family friend and neighbour whose mum was reported dead in the hospital and brought home for embalming. The body was locked up in a room overnight while the undertaker was called in to take her away. When the door was opened the next morning, they found the old woman sitting on the bed chewing the cotton wool stuffed in her nose and mouth!
Rumour had it the old woman had been fortified in her younger age. She wasnt going to die easily.

People could actually be presumed dead when in actual fact they are not. Case of respiratory arrest, cardiac arrest, severe hypothermia, catalepsy, locked in syndrome, anaesthetic effect, barbiturate/drug overdose can all mimick death.

It's possible some of this people had one of this condition and eventually came around. It could also be they were actually dead - brain stem dead, and miraculous came back alive.
We will never know because most of these cases were not investigated thoroughly to verify validity of their claims. We Christians accept it as true and unbelieving Thomases wave it off as fake or by chance.

Same thing happend 2000 yrs ago. We dont have enough details to explain exactly what happened.

If neither atheist or Christians can fully explain the resurrection stories( unfaked ones) we have today but choose a convenient side as a way out, then I wonder why atheist are so obsessed with a Resurrection story that happened 2000 yrs ago where there can hardly be any details to examine or scrutinise.

If atheist are genuine and really wants to attack the resurrection story. They should first explain the ones happening now in their very presence b4 forming pseudo science on the bible.

Mathew reported it because he knew of the claim. Just like he reported the earthquake and darkness at noon.
Now effort had been made to verify the above 2 claims and the outcome remain inconclusive. Some said the darkness at noon was solar eclipse, and that the earthquake was actually a tremor.

Whatever the case, those events did occur as recorded in the gospel. Nobody can say with certainty what actually happened because those events were never fully investigated as far as we aware just as today's resurrection claims continues uninvestigated.

My final exegesis on this case will be why other gospel authors didn't record the resurrection story.

Pls note when I say today's resurrection claim, I'm not refering to the audio and obviously faked resurrection miracles packaged by false prophets. Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 4:46am On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
Don't be an hypocrite, your father that licks his vomit, did you ask him why?
Learn to question your deranged father.
Let me give u a piece of advice
When u get home ask your father if there's generational curse afflicting your family.
Your behaviour isn't ordinary.
CrimeRe: US Charges Nigerian Businessman, Dozy Mmobuosi Who Tried To Buy Sheffied by SIRTee15: 1:30am On Jan 05, 2024
Instead of the guy to keep quiet and enjoy his loot in peace he had to announce himself to the world.
What was he thinking when he came out with the Sheffield utd? Out of no where, an unknown black man came out with millions to buy a club.
He must be ignorant to think they won't put the search beam on it.
White people know all the millionaire blacks in this world....the legit ones of course. Dem no plenty.

As a black man if u know your millions isn't legit. Abeg, lay low. Enjoy your ill gotten wealth. Get good lawyers and accountants to manage and move your funds quietly, and avoid anything that will bring search light on u.
Don't learn the hard way.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 12:02am On Jan 05, 2024
Maynman:
Dog is back to his vomit like his father.
Didn't you see "bye" earlier?

Debate on Paul or saul? 😂
Don't be rude, can u ask your father to lick his vomit.
Learn to respect him.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15:
KnownUnknown:
By attempting to give a “plausible explanation”, are you admitting that dead bodies coming to life is an extraordinary yarn that needs to be rationalized?
It's an exegesis- explanation of the text.
I think we mixing up 2 things here- a claim and validity of the claim.
The point here is to test if there was a claim that people saw dead people coming to live.
Was there actually a claim that people reported seeing dead people coming to live
Just like the claim of earthquake and darkness at noon.
Was there actually such claims at that time as reported by gospel of Mathew.
The issue is not if that claim is true or false.
Testing the validity of such claims is another point entirely.
Just like the claim of Muhammed and angel jubril story. Was there a claim that Muhammed met with an angel in a cave? Yes.
Is the claim true? Now that is a different topic entirely and requires putting such claims to test to determine it's validity. Do u get it now?

Now, Do I believe people made a claim that they saw their relatives who slept came back to live on the day of Jesus was crucified.
Absolutely, I have no iota of doubt the claim is true. For it to have been reported in the gospel, I believe it's true.
Why do I believe the claim is true? because people who have similar faith still make such claims up till today in 2024. There are numerous accounts of people who claimed their relatives who died came back to live in name of Jesus.
If such claim exist today, why should I doubt its existence 2000 yrs ago.

Below is the video of a believer who testified how her Dad who was dead for 2 days came back alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVf3p9KmdwE?si=QU38SCLrIO66kl3Z

Now that we have clarified what the claim is about.
I will next discuss validity of a claim and that of the resurrection of the dead the night Jesus was crucified.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 9:44pm On Jan 04, 2024
Maynman:
Basing your life on what you have to debate on, mad man.
You yourself see the errors but your beliefs has blinded you.

I'm 100 percent sure you are doubting 😂
Now let's start the 10 page challenge, I promise to debate Paul with u once we hit page 62 insulting your father.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 6:30pm On Jan 04, 2024
ItShallPass:
I'm not here to debate the authorship of the Acts of Apostles. I think you should do the slow reading because I made that clear already.

What makes you question Paul's Apostleship? That's what I'm discussing you. I made that clear too.

And I have also pointed out that Paul didn't declare himself an apostle, someone else wrote that about him. Whether you regard that book as a forgery or not us none of my business. The point is that the Apostleship of Paul and his recognition as such, was not the doing of Paul.
It's like u don't know that madman U discussing with. There's a reason I stopped debating with him.
My best advice for u in religious section is to avoid him at all cost. He's already an outcast here, few people debate him.
His head is filled with conspiracy junks and desperately looking for where to offload them.
That's how he will be jumping from one topic to another without concluding on any, moving around in circles.
He just want to debate for the sake of it not to prove anything.
Him head no correct at all.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 6:03pm On Jan 04, 2024
kkins25:
What da actual Fvck, bro?
It's a plausibility or they actually woke up as the scriptures said 'they slept'- a term used for people risen from the dead.

The point here is that it didn't make headline is not a valid excuse to discredit it.

2 other events of that day also didn't make headlines but we now know they happened.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 5:59pm On Jan 04, 2024
kkins25:
What's nonsense is you claiming that your claims of authorship of the gospels are credible. How did you arrive at such conclusions?
One of the strongest criteria used to disqualify Mathew and John is that they couldnt speak greek. That's largely unfounded. The gospels themselves prove otherwise.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 5:56pm On Jan 04, 2024
kkins25:
Point me to Hebrew scriptures that clearly demonstrated the Trinity. Please stop directing me to your Greeko-roman aka European Fathers..

Schoary consensus is that Paul did write, or at least, narrated most of the letters bar the book of Hebrews. Other letters/Epistles had been updated by anonymous folks too though. So, no one knows for sure.
Who is the angel of the LORD in the Hebrew bible.
Philo was a Jew and was never a Christian. He never met Christ. What did he say about logos.

The Targum which is the ancient aramaic bible has the word logos in it as memra- what does it
represent?
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 4:45pm On Jan 04, 2024
Maynman:
You have done the same and mentioned my parents, wetin con dey do you?
I said if Dem born your papa well...

You this slowpoke.
Of course u dont mind seeing your father in the mud potopoto. All because u want to discuss Paul and Luke.
I'm sure if I promise to discuss Paul and Luke with u if we first rain insults on top your parents, u will instantly jump 🦘 at the offer.
Ode, attention thirst dog.

Get out of here, shameless son. Ready to throw his parents under the bus just to gist about Paul and Luke...as if he will choke if he doesn't.
See someone else has called your attention to discuss Paul
Go and satisfy your cravings and be bloated.
Bye.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
All this are nonsense.
Let's discuss Paul, if Dem born your papa well, im not begging, i want to expose your IGNORANCE.
How did Paul become an apostle?
He be like say u no want peace but trouble this new year.
Mention your father's name again in a shameless manner and see if the mods will not eventually shut this thread down.
Sebi u want to talk to me, I will give it to u....10 straight pages, na u go tire.
U this degenerate.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 4:20am On Jan 04, 2024
Maynman:
You are a nobody, so I won't understand why you think you attention is of any importance.
I'm not here for you that but to bust your lies for those reading now and in the future.

Stop basing you miserable life on only what you read in Jewish books.
I'm not important but u begging me to discuss Paul with u
U not chasing me, but u begging me to discuss Luke with u.
U even imagined we concluded on a matter when I practically ignored u. U can imagine that hallucination.
It's like u desire and watch out for my posts on nairaland religious section because that's the only thing that adds meaning and joy to your life.
It's just too obvious by the speed u respond to
them.
You desperately crave for my attention, but in 2024 u getting none.
Get a life.

It's ok to reminiscent on our previous discussions if u miss talking to me in 2024. That's allowed.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 11:49pm On Jan 03, 2024
Maynman:
LIES, EVERYTHING we know of thallus comes from Christian apologists.
We don't even know when thallus lived or if he even wrote anything.
That's why NO historian consider that statement as factual.

Can't you see the fraud you are basing your life on?
I will starve of u that attention u crave for this year.
U will chase me like a deer thirst after water but
u will be ignored.
Get a life out of nairaland.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 11:26am On Jan 03, 2024
jaephoenix:
1. Obviously you didn't read any of those trash 'evidence' you posted. If you did you would have seen this…

This article examines a report in the 27th chapter of the Gospel of Matthew in the New Testament that an earthquake was felt in Jerusalem on the day of the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth. We have tabulated a varved chronology from a core from Ein Gedi on the western shore of the Dead Sea between deformed sediments due to a widespread earthquake in 31 BC and deformed sediments due to an early first-century earthquake. The early first-century seismic event has been tentatively assigned a date of 31 AD with an accuracy of ±5 years. Plausible candidates include the earthquake reported in the Gospel of Matthew, an earthquake that occurred sometime before or after the crucifixion and was in effect ‘borrowed’ by the author of the Gospel of Matthew, and a local earthquake between 26 and 36 AD that was sufficiently energetic to deform the sediments at Ein Gedi but not energetic enough to produce a still extant and extra-biblical historical record. If the last possibility is true, this would mean that the report of an earthquake in the Gospel of Matthew is a type of allegory
A. The excerpt said it happened in 31 AD and also 31BC. So which one we go take? Different dates depict confusion and uncertainty.
B. Only Matthew reported an earthquake. Mark, Luke and John didn't. So an earthquake that big was ignored by 3 people and reported by one? Dey play! Lol 😆
C. Your 'evidence' wasn't sure if the earthquake happened before or after the crucifixion. Lol 😆
D. Finally the bolded part shows your 'evidence' is just bullshit. Its suggesting the earthquake was an allegory(much like what many modern day christians attribute the Bible)
2. In your usual dishonest way, you ignored the the main topic of discussion. We were discussing the 'mass resurrection' that happened on the death of Jesus and not any earthquake
Nice try grin
The scientific evidence placed the earthquake at 31 +/- 5 AD.
You asking if the earthquake was b4 or after cruxifixion just expose your ignorance of archeological dating.
The magnitude and the after effect of the
earthquake is a matter subjective opinion. They
were not there to determine the damage of the
local earthquake.
But what we know is there was definitely an earthquake around the period of Christ cruxifixion.
Your highlighted only suggested the local earthquake wasn't serious enough to leave extant evidence or extra biblical record. Then they concluded Mathew inserted the story into the gospel.
However, Thallus who lived in the 30s AD and witnessed the event confirmed the earthquake happened on the eve of the Passover.

I already gave plausible explanation to the 3rd
event of that night - resurrection of saints.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 1:41am On Jan 03, 2024
According to Mathew, 3 extraordinary events occured the night Jesus was crucified.
Darkness at noon without eclipse, earthquake and dead bodies coming to life.

We already have extra biblical evidence- both scientific and historical for 2.
So then should we believe the 3rd account or simply say it was garnished.

Let's remember earthquake disturbs earth's movement. The quake could have exposed
buried bodies in graves and tombs. Some people could have seen their dead brought back to life by way of miracle which u don't believe in anyway.
Or the relatives thought they were alive and reported it as such. Mathew never said the bodies spoke or communicated to anybody. Instead the report said the bodies of saints were seen to be alive.
It's possible the bodies of these saints never decomposed and looked very much like a living
person which the relatives reported.

Why did it not make headline news in ancient Rome?
Same way the resurrection of Lazarus, the widow's son in Capernaum and jarius daughter didn't make headline news in ancient Rome.

The darkness at noon and earthquake didn't make headlines either and if thallus had not reported it, scholars would have claimed it was all a myth/forgery.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15:
jaephoenix:
Aha!
You're not denying it. Awesome.
So such event where a horde of people got resurrected and yet it wasn't recorded in history?
Read this article. It highlight scientific evidence of the earthquake described by Mathew on the night Jesus was crucified.


A geological study based on sediments near the Dead Sea indicate that an earthquake occurred around 31 AD ± 5 years, which plausibly coincides with the earthquake reported by Matthew 27 near the time of the crucifixion of Christ


https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/An-early-first-century-earthquake-in-the-Dead-Sea-Williams-Schwab/037fc20bee7296e7722f1037f2d2e738aab456c0

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00206814.2011.639996

Thallus on the other hand described both the darkness at 3pm and also the earthquake.

On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun. For the Hebrews celebrate the passover on the 14th day according to the moon, and the passion of our Saviour falls on the day before the passover;
cited by sextus Julius africanus
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 4:34pm On Jan 02, 2024
Maynman:
I thought we trashed this before?

https://biblehub.com/greek/1672.htm
Where and when did we thrash? That I choose to ignore u doesn't mean whatever u paste makes sense
U are a pest and deserves to be ignored.

Anyway, take a good look at what u brought here.
It supports my assertion here that use of greek as medium of communication was widespread in Judea province.

Christianity EtcRe: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 4:32pm On Jan 02, 2024
Maynman:
Who is the person?

Jesus Christ is a composite character and never existed.

Which sect did John the Baptist belong to?
See Cognitive dissonance on display.
Is this not u. What shall we believe from your mouth?

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