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KunleOshob:
A lot of christians may not be aware but what they are practising and what obtains in most churches today is not chrisitanity but churchianity. If we agree that true christianity as inspired by christ is based on his teachings and we believe the apostles were directed by christ to establish the church and we read an believe our bibles, then we would realise that what is being practised today is definitely not christianity but an adulterated version of it designed primarily to suit church leaders. Anybody who as truly studied the gospel of our lord Jesus Christ would easily attest to the fact that the greatest message of Christ was love as such that should be very foundation of any church that professes christianity but it is the opposite we have today.

Matthew 22:35-39:
35 One of them, an expert in religious law, tried to trap him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?”
   37 Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]

Love was the central theme of the gospel of christ, christ also taught us to love our enemies and he demonstrated to us that to love God you must love your fellow men. In otherwards to be a christian you must be full of love for every body and you must demonstrate that love by helping people around us who are less priviledge. This is the most important thing we can do as christians. The unfortunate thing is that this central message of christianity as been lost by the church and "christians" people are now "christians" because of what they think they can get from the church (salvation and prosperity) were as the true christian spirit should be about giving and showing love. Although churches today encourage you to give( which we should) they are only interested in you giving to the church and nobody else, this totally against the christian spirit of helping those in need.

Peter is the apostle Jesus directed to establish the church quoted below is Jesus last instructions to peter regarding the church before his acension

Passage John 21:14-17:
14 This was the third time Jesus had appeared to his disciples since he had been raised from the dead.
   15 After breakfast Jesus asked Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?[a]”

   “Yes, Lord,” Peter replied, “you know I love you.”

   “Then feed my lambs,” Jesus told him.

   16 Jesus repeated the question: “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

   “Yes, Lord,” Peter said, “you know I love you.”

   “Then take care of my sheep,” Jesus said.

   17 A third time he asked him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

   Peter was hurt that Jesus asked the question a third time. He said, “Lord, you know everything. You know that I love you.”

   Jesus said, “Then feed my sheep.

Here Jesus is clearly directing peter (the church) to take care of his followers and attend to their needs but today it is the other way round, it is the followers that are taking care of the church leaders. The above passage also demonstrate that loving God means showing love to our fellow human beings and not necessarily making offerings to the church as some pastors would have you believe.
Let us now examine the practise in the early church inspired by Jesus and established by the apostles
Acts 2:45:
45 They sold their property and possessions and shared the money with those in need
Acts 4:32-35:
    32 All the believers were united in heart and mind. And they felt that what they owned was not their own, so they shared everything they had. 33 The apostles testified powerfully to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and God’s great blessing was upon them all. 34 There were no needy people among them, because those who owned land or houses would sell them 35 and bring the money to the apostles to give to those in need.

we can see from the above passage that collections in the early church was primarily meant to help the needy (both within and outside the church) but today the church doesn't care about those in need all collections go towards what they call "running of the church" even those in need are also expected to contribute to the church so that they can receive "blessings". If we examine the practise in the early church you would observe there was real love there as inspired by christ but today that practise of sharing and demonstrating love by the church is conspiciously absent and our church leaders couldn't care less. Even if you have a problem and you approached the church the best they would do about it is to pray about it, you would hardly see any church coming to a members aid financially. some of them would even try and exploit you further by suggesting that you are having difficulties because you don't tithe faithfully.

The truth is that true christianity that was established by the apostles and inspired by Jesus is no longer being practised ( at least in any church i know of) because true love is the cental theme of the Jesus message to us. that message is not being practicalized in most churches today. However jesus himself predicted that we would be led astray

Matthew 15:8-9:

   8This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

   9But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

A lot of teachings in today's churches are commandments of men being presented to us as the word of God, the great apsotle Paul also had something to say on this topic:

Romans 16:17-18:
   17 And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters. Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people’s faith by teaching things contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them. 18 Such people are not serving Christ our Lord; they are serving their own personal interests. By smooth talk and glowing words they deceive innocent people.

Today christianity as been seriously hijacked and that is why we now have several different denominations each one preaching their own biase, but most of them if not all having departed from the original church practise of sharing and demonstrating love amongst beleivers. I hereby call on all true believers and followers of christ to return to true christianinty as established by the apsotles and inspired by our Lord Jesus christ. we should challenge our church leadership because they have led us astray. We should study the churches the apostles established and emulate them. For us to fully understand what the true christian church should be like , i encourage every one to read the Acts of the apostles and all the espitles written in the new testament. You would discover that we have departed from true christianity and what is being practised is DOCTRINES of men being presented to us as the word of GOD.

I just want to say. . .   THANK YOU for this.

So while I was busy running helter skelter getting ready for our big day, he was busy. . . ehmm. . . getting someone else ready for another big day??!

Yeah, it's ending. No if and or but about it.


@ Poster
Thank your lucky stars it didn't happen after you got married. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and move on.

long sigh

Why does everything have to be complicated?

What happened to. . .
Boy meets girl
He asks her out
She accepts
They fall in love
Live happily ever after^sometimes

What happened to that??!

Now it's. . .

Did you say your name is Shineneh? Nah, homie don't play that. Get the stepping biatch.

Next

Maria? Hmm, not bad english name I like that. Wait. . , whoa, did you just say SI. . . as in yes in spanish? Spanish? No. . . no. . . Buh-bye Marrriaaa, have fun going back to Me-hi-co.

Finally you met a Nigerian sounding name but you gotta break it down to the last of the last. . .

"You're not from a broken home, okay that's a plus but. . . err. . . the thing is. . . now understand if it was left to me, we'll be walking down the aisle but see your name is Babajide instead of Babatunde. I know, I know they both mean the same thing but like I said it's my family. They have a problem with the letters J and I. Sorry. Better luck next time "

Next!

Gah! Too many freaking rules (and we've not even put the religion, church denomination, affiliation, time of service, type of service, how you end your prayer, what you wear to church, factor into it oh) and people wonder why they are still single.

Allow yourself to get swept in the moment for goodness sakes. Enjoy it.

Jeebus!

After the rules, come the application process.

APPLICATION FOR PERMISSION TO DATE MY DAUGHTER

NOTE: This application will be incomplete and rejected unless
accompanied by a complete financial statement, job history, lineage, and current medical report from your doctor.

NAME_____________________
DATE OF BIRTH_____________
HEIGHT_____ WEIGHT____________ IQ__________ GPA_______

SOCIAL SECURITY #________ DRIVERS LICENSE #_________

BOY SCOUT RANK AND BADGES_____________
HOME ADDRESS______
CITY/STATE_______ ZIP______

Do you have parents? ___Yes ___No
Is one male and the other female? ___Yes ___No

If No, explain:__________

Number of years they have been married ______________

If less than your age, explain __________________________

ACCESSORIES SECTION:

A. Do you own or have access to a van? __Yes __No

B. A truck with oversized tires? __Yes __No

C. A waterbed __Yes __No

D. A pickup with a mattress in the back? __Yes __No

E. A tattoo? __Yes __No

F. Do you have an earring, nose ring, pierced tongue, pierced cheek or a belly button ring? ___Yes ___No

(IF YOU ANSWERED "YES" TO ANY OF THE ABOVE, DISCONTINUE APPLICATION AND LEAVE PREMISES IMMEDIATELY. I SUGGEST RUNNING.)

ESSAY SECTION:

In 50 words or less, what does "LATE" mean to you?
___________________________

In 50 words or less, what does "DON'T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER" mean to you? ___________________________
In 50 words or less, what does "ABSTINENCE" mean to you?_______________________

REFERENCES SECTION:

Church you attend__________

How often you attend _____
When would be the best time to interview your:

father? _____________

mother? _____________

pastor? _____________


SHORT-ANSWER SECTION:

Answer by filling in the blank. Please answer freely, all answers are confidential.

A: If I were shot, the last place I would want shot would be: ______________
B: If I were beaten, the last bone I would want broken is my:_____________________
C: A woman's place is in the:
___________________________
D: The one thing I hope this application does not ask me about is:_____________

E. What do you want to do IF you grow up? ___________


F. When I meet a girl, the thing I always notice about her first is:_____________

G. What is the current going rate of a hotel room? _______

I SWEAR THAT ALL INFORMATION SUPPLIED ABOVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH, DISMEMBERMENT, NATIVE AMERICAN ANT TORTURE, CRUCIFIXION, ELECTROCUTION, CHINESE WATER TORTURE, RED HOT POKERS, AND HILLARY CLINTON KISS TORTURE.
__________________________
Applicant's Signature (that means sign your name, slowpoke!)

Mother's Signature________
Father's Signature________

Pastor/Priest/Rabbi State Representative/Congressman___________
Thank you for your interest, and it had better be genuine and non-sexual. Please allow four to six years for processing.

You will be contacted in writing if you are approved. Please do not try to call or write (since you probably can't, and it would cause you injury). If your application is rejected, you will be notified by two gentleman wearing white ties carrying violin cases. (you might watch your back)

How love how we can talk about innocent childhood games and then shuck eh with mass fuckery, hymen breaking and gay sex in the next breath.

I don't know about you but I think it's a testament to how enlightened we are.

[quote author=jek_kad link=topic=150400.msg2494249#msg2494249 date=1215795156]boju boju ooo ,ooooooooooo ,olorombo oooooooooo ,akalamo ,oooooooo keshinshin ----lma can't remember d words again[/quote]Aaaaaah! You are so right! Now I remember.

Se kin wa - No

Se kin wa - no

Se kin wa - Yes

And that's when the seeking starts. LMAO!

So which one is with the blindfolds?

Oh let's also add

Mother May I
Green Light, Red Light.

[quote author=jek_kad link=topic=150400.msg2494233#msg2494233 date=1215795034]boju boju is simply hide and seek in yoruba[/quote]Really?!

Okay, which game I've I been playing all this time?  

Gamine:
Whats this Boju-Boju

Ya serious? You don't know?

A group game, someone gets blindfolded and tries to capture another by following the sound of their voice. She calls out Boju-Boju and the others answer Yes.

Boju-Boju - Yes
Boju-Boju - Yes

I forgot to add, just recently I saw the one of the people I used to play Boju Boju with and it was so weird seeing her without the scarf we used to cover her eyes. I gotta tell ya, it was so uncomfortable, we didn't know what to say to each other. I mean what do you say in that kinda situation?  

Don't even get me started on the time I say my Ten-Ten Partner! Oh my God! I can't even go there right now.

@ Topic
While we're at it, let's do

Ten-ten
Suwe
Boju-boju
Mother may I
Ring-a-ring-a roses.
Who stole the meat from the cooking pot.

Today is kuku Friday, it ain't like we got. . . you know real things to talk about anyway.

I tell them what I'm worth and they try to lowball me. . . ya darn skippy I'm walking out.

NIGERIAN GIRL GUNS DOWN BROTHER IN COLD BLOOD.

That’s what the headlines will read if I ever catch any of my brothers washing woman's underwear.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore my sisters-in-law but they better wash their own panties if they don't want to be widowed.

CARUSO:
(okunrin Nigeria ready la ti she anytin to ba fe lu obinrin ni jibiti obo! )

Tee Hee.

Why is the sky blue?
Why is water wet?
Why are roses red?
Why is the sun hot?
Why do Nigerian men lie?

It’s just the way of the world.

CH3COO:
Hmm it has struck me that some naija girls just don't appreciate or see the essence of a romantic gesture huh?

Haba, it's not like we don't. . . we just want a little bit of originality in the gesture.

Not too much to ask, no?

Flowers are just sooo Cliché.

You can get them as you fill your tank in the gas station,
You can get them from a street hawker while stuck in traffic
You can get them as you refill your prescription and buy new underwear at the pharmacy.

To me, Flowers are the quintessential I am not even trying to put much thought into this and I don’t care if you know I am not even trying because I honestly don’t care gift.

Give me a good book and I'll skipp merrily away but what will get me going "take me now, I'm yours for life" is NES with Super Mario Bros 3. *drooling*

tpia:
Nigerians are too rigid when it comes to cultural issues.

yet when they date or marry non-Nigerians abroad, all these cultural norms and mores get thrown out the window.

But let them see a fellow Nigerian, then all the shakara comes into play.

"This one is from a broken home , so thats why I'm better and have to put up with their behavior, that one's mom or dad is a divorce/e, therefore I'm far better since my own home was a loving one, all that anger and rudeness is because s/he is from a broken home, even the way this person eats, is because thats how they eat in a broken home etc etc".



yeah right.


Most people abroad (foreigners), who are from broken homes, do not have any distinguishing characteristics that set them apart from others, as adults. In fact, many serial killers come from unbroken homes.

with all the unbroken homes in Nigeria, the political section is still full of people cursing and insulting the place. And praising and blessing the west which is full of broken homes as well as kids and leaders who are the products of broken homes. Isnt it these same people who are worshipping Obama?

tpia:
right.

You can never have problems in marriage as long as you choose a lady whose mother you admire.


Like I said, all these standards apply only when a Nigerian is marrying or dating another Nigerian.

The Nigerian bylaws and marriage guides mysteriously vanish when a Nigerian has his eye on a foreigner. In those cases, its the hair or skin color that's more important, not background. Even if the woman slaps you multiple times on the regular, na play.

ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY!!!

They date non-Nigerians who don't know her daddy but the good news is she in the process of finding out which one of her "4 uncles" is her daddy from the Maury Show. . . yet look their noses down on Nigerians whose parents are divorced.

They date non-Nigerians who has 3 kids from 3 baby daddies and has no qualms telling them "she don't need no man to take care of her babies because her mama di'ent need one neither and she got 7 babies. . . yet look down on Nigerians whose parents are divorced.

They date non-Nigerians who gon be straight with 'em upfront, he don't do marriage coz he seen how marriage messed up he daddy's live. . . yet they look down their noses on Nigerian who parents are divorced.

They date non-Nigerian who will has trust issues with men because when she was like 10, her father, who like left her mother for his secretary, promised he would like come see her ballet performance in The Nutcracker but like totally bailed on her. . . yet they look down on Nigerians whose parents are divorced.

Because only NIGERIAN children from the broken homes have problems.

*Rolleye*

Not a Winners Member. . . okay, not sure why I felt the need to make that clear. Anyway, it possible that this was said in the same manner some say

“The God of Shadrach Meshach and Abednego?”

Then Nebuchadnezzar said, "Praise be to the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, who has sent his angel and rescued his servants! They trusted in him and defied the king's command and were willing to give up their lives rather than serve or worship any god except their own God. 29 Therefore I decree that the people of any nation or language who say anything against the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego be cut into pieces and their houses be turned into piles of rubble, for no other god can save in this way."Daniel 3; 28 -29

Or the God of Daniel

"I make a decree that in all the dominion of my kingdom men are to fear and tremble [b]before the God of Daniel; [/b]For He is the living God and enduring forever, And His kingdom is one which will not be destroyed, And His dominion will be forever. Daniel 6:26

In both examples, we can clearly see that it is GOD not Daniel or Shadrach Meshach and Abednego who is being glorified. I guess what I’m trying to say is “The God of Oyedepo” is being used to recognize God’s Glory. Keep in mind the people who are saying it have no reason to think God is not the source of Oyedapo’s success (Disclaimer: I’m not saying God isn’t the source). So they pray…the God who has done great things in the life Oyedepo will also do the same for us. Also saying "The God of Oyedepo" brings things close to home because this is a man they can see, who walks on the same sand they do not some abstract figure from the Bible.


Just throwing that out there.

You're joking right?

You won't go see his father. . . Your future FATHER-IN-LAW yet you come here wailing like someone in a bad Nigerian village movie because he won't go see your pastor. . . his future WHAT?

Hasn't your pastor preached about Honoring your father & Mother? Yes, that includeds your FUTURE FATHER-IN-LAW

Jeez!

Gamine:
I don't believe its just Excuses.

it could be but then again people have Real problems with this

We all have issues over one thing or the other. The degree by which we let it affect our everyday life is based on how far we can get away with it.

Think about it, a child misbehaves. . . a normal thing with ALL children but because he is from a broken home, people around him look at him and say "Aww, he is acting up because his parents are divorced" so he doesn't get punished or not as severly as he should have been. He thinks to himself "Hmm, I am acting out because my parents are divorced". What does he do? Misbehaves some more but this time with the assurance of someone who now believes he has a reason to misbehave. Now flip it over to a kid who comes from an unbroken home, he misbehaves and before he can say Jack Robinson, he is punished and told that kinda of behavior is unacceptable. Do you think he'll do it again? of course he will, he is a kid after all BUT this time on the sly, peeking over his shoulder to make sure he doesn't get caught and punished again.

We have been programmed to expect certain things from certain people in certain situations. . . everyone is must fit nicely into a prepackaged box. I have this image of people with their life stats stamped on them, standing on a conveyor belt like they do in assembly lines, ready to be packaged.

Female, Middle Child of Divorced Parents - Okay, into "The Be mistrustful of Men" box for you.

NEXT.

Male, Only Child of Single mother - Alright, into "The Acting out because you lack a father figure" box.

NEXT

Male, only Child of unbroken home - Oh look at you! Lucky guy. Into the "You will sail through life without an problem" box

Now, Now people, you must act according to the boxes you are put in. If you don't you won't be considered normal.

Like I said, into a nice little box.

CH3COO:
The psychological factors are there.

You said anything you say to her was seen as an excuse to fight. If you don't mind my asking, what kinda things do you say to her that makes her flare up? The reason I ask is to make sure we're not labeling "normal female mood swings" as psychological issues brought on by her parents divorce.

And yeah. . . I just admited we do have mood swings. I suspect The Association of Women Everywhere will be presenting me with a horse head pillow tonight or worse by dawn tomorrow I will be sleeping with the fishes for revelaing that little detail.

*Sigh*

michelin89:
As you said, it's an excuse and not a real factor!

Took the words right outta my mouth ^(keyboard)

Excuses! Excuses!! Excuses!!!

Goodness Gracious! Why in the world would she assume I miss you means you are interested in her?

Some women sure know how to set themselves up, don't they? After they will be boo-hooing all over the place about being led on, broken hearts and whatnots.

Sad.

RichyBlacK:
@Gamine,

From my experience, the worst kind of women are bred in a home where the mother is divorced, has only girls (or a single girl) and pours all her vernomous hatred for the ex-husband into the heart of the daughter - with such words as "all men are dogs", "your father was no good", "your father abused me", "your father cheated on me". No sane man should marry a girl from such a home.

Statistically, men remarry at a higher rate than women, after a divorce. Hence, much of the bitterness of the divorce remains with the woman. Some of these women become eternally bitter, and raise daughters that no man should ever consider marrying.

I hope your situation does not fall into this category.

Lawd-a-mercy!!!!

I'm too shocked to say anything!

Jeebus!

dewaledeyi:
It is really important that I jopin this discussion because I am presently going through some "experience" at the moment.

Broken homes are bad especially for ladies and that means we guys have to shine our eyes very well.

I am about to break up a relationship of long years because she behaves combative which I see is a spillover from her broken home. Saying "sorry" is an issue, she has never consoled me actively on any issue, she flares up at me in public e.t.c

My heart is really broken because I wasnt seeing sb else but she displayed her attitude to my parents and they are not in support of us getting married.

I'm still in Love but my future matters,

I'm sorry your relationship didn't work out; hopefully you'll meet the right person soon.

I have one question, how do you know that those things you've listed. . . her being combative, not saying sorry, not being sympathetic, insulting you in public. . . are all spillover from her broken home? Could it be that she's combative because that's who she is? She's not apologetic because she thinks she's never wrong or prideful? She publicly insults you because she's a rude bitch? ^{Pardon my language}. There women who grew up in a loving two-parent home who are just as rude, unsympathetic and proud. So how do we explain that?

Therein lies the problem with the whole “I am the way I am because my past”. We live in a "not my fault" society, no one takes responsibility for their actions, instead eagerly thrust responsibility elsewhere and the sad part is we have the works of respected intellectuals like Sigmund our personality is developed by our childhood experiences Freud to back us up. We have Erickson with his list of things we have to successful go through from childhood to adulthood in order to become "well adjusted human beings". A teenager wakes up one morning and decides to gun his classmates down, we excuse it by saying “Oh he had an awful childhood” or he didn't succesfully complete the Trust vs. Mistrust stage . A woman is badly behaved, we say “oh her parents got divorced when she was just a wee little one” or "She's still in the Phallic stage of development. Give me a break! He killed because he wanted to; she is badly behaved because she just is. Simple.

I like Psychology & Psychiatry, I find both fields very interesting and do believe they are helpful when properly applied but in my opinion, it is an easy out clause, presented to us in a silver platter no less, There is a “Which came first? The chicken or the egg?” aura to the whole thing, if you ask me. I mean have you ever wondered if people feel what they are really feeling or what they are expected to feel?

The appropriate title for this thread is. . .

I still refuse to let go (After 3 years of break up).

Dude, she is NOT. . . I repeat NOT, NEVER, coming back.

Move on!!!

Jeebus!

Hmmm, maybe I spoke too soon about this tracking thingy. In my defence though, I didn't think it would work but. . . errr. . . I've changed my mind after seeing how well it's working for RedHotChic right now. 

Brilliant, Brilliant marketing strategy RedHotChic.  A'ight,  I'll take 2. . . no 3, you know what, just make it a dozen.

@ Topic
Lawd-a-Mercy!

I promise you, if I was a guy and I see the first 5 topics on this section, I'll give up women forever and ever, become a monk or something.

Goodness!

Goodness, isn't this the height of insecurity?
Who next. . .

His female co-workers?
The women in the market?
The Women on the bus?

Why do women go looking for trouble where there is none? Seriously, if you spend every hour thinking of ways to combat imaginary wahala, when will you have time for the real one?

TOH:
No.

LMAO! A woman of few words. Just NO and that's that.

RedHotChic:
people are bound to protect their own too. [b]I won't be sitting quiet if my brother is dating a snake that masked herself as a lady. [/b]Men do not have that sixth sense to discover a trap but we women do as long as the jealousy factor is taken out.

Okay, this a different issue, of course no sister should sit back and watch their brother fall into the hands of Jezebel. However, we are talking about the first surge of jealousy^{(Still don't understand why)} and pissing contests some women get into the moment their brother brings a girl home. They don't have any reason not to trust her but they've already started building walls. How do you think she'll react? Build her own walls of course and soon you have bricks colliding with bricks. I say let her give you a reason before you go Kung Fu Panda on her behind.