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VisaOfficer: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the OND is a non-degree certificate, right? From a two-year polytechnical school? I think that would fall under "vocational school." Nairalanders, please chime in if I'm totally off base.

You are very right about that. Nice day!

jahing: Hello guys

I need an advise on something. I have a bank account statement of opening balance 7m, total withdraw 78m and total deposited is 89m,closing balance 550000.The account is a company account at the moment and all money was used for a business i could wait for a month,the balance will be above 10m but i need the statement now for my visa application to Canada.Do you think it will work?

Except the visa application is strictly for business,you cannot use a company account. Even if you must use it for business,you need to prove beyond reasonable doubt that your personal circumstances merit you being granted a visa. You should look at presenting a personal bank account instead of a company account.

oyinposh27: pls i need ur help house,my purpose of travelling to the uk has changed,now going for a training not visiting,i have alreadi submitted my application online only and ve not been to the vhf center,can i ignore and re apply online.thank u

Discard the old application and make a fresh application with the details of your travel plan,submit and print the sub application for submission at VFS.

For the benefit of all, this is a copy (an edited copy) of an AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt)

UCI: xxxxxxxx
Application No.: xxxx
Quote these numbers when corresponding with our office.

This is an automated message. Please DO NOT RESPOND to this message.

Dear xxxxxxx,

This confirms that your application for permanent residence in Canada has been received by Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) on 2013/xx/xx.

When should I contact CIC?
You must notify CIC of any changes to your application. Examples of changes include:
• Changes in your personal circumstances, such as birth or adoption of a child, a marriage or a divorce
• Change of contact information (e-mail, mailing address, telephone number)
• Appointment or change of immigration representative or designated individual
• Decision to withdraw your application
To notify CIC of changes to your application, visit www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/offices/missions.asp, select the office stated below, and follow the directions for “Case Specific Enquiry.”

When will CIC contact me?
CIC will contact you if we require additional information, documents, or an interview. For general guidance on what to expect, you can visit www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications and consult the “What happens next” section of the instruction guide associated with the application form you used.

How do I check the status of my application?
You may use either the Unique Client Identifier (UCI) or Application Number above to check the status of your application on the CIC website. Please visit www.cic.gc.ca/english and in the “I Need To ...” section on the right-hand side of the page, select “Check application status.”

How long will it take to process my application?
Processing times vary. You can consult the processing times for reference at: www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times
Please be aware that answering e-mails takes time away from processing applications. For this reason, unless your application has exceeded normal processing times, please limit your correspondence to notifying us of changes in your application.

How can I prepare for immigration to Canada?
Please consult the following resources about settlement in Canada:
• For information on language assessment and training, visit www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomers/before-language-training.asp
• For information on employment, visit www.credentials.gc.ca and www.workingincanada.gc.ca
• For information on housing, education, health, important documents, and other topics, visit www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomers

We trust that this information concerning your application for permanent residence in Canada is helpful.

High Commission of Canada
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alexito48201: What is AOR? Pls and who issues it?

Acknowledgement of receipt (AOR) = That is the first communication you receive from your responsible visa office stating that your application has been received (from the CIO in Nova Scotia). It will state how long the process will take amongst other details.

When you receive an AOR,then you can start communicating with your Visa Office/case officer.

alexito48201: I received my PER on the 25th august 2013. Does this mean I am good to go?

Sure you are on your way already...expect the AOR soon.

prommy12: Hello solomonwis, can a B.SC in accounting wit 15years experience apply(civil servant). Thanks

Of course you can apply. Unfortunately,the eligible occupation you appear to qualify for has reached the cap limit of 300 already.

You can be on the look out for next in-take from 2014. In the mean time,you can get your language test done and evaluate your educational credentials.

Reading through the thread will give you an insight into the steps to follow.

samuel058: hello house help your brother here oo
IELTS is as follows;
listening;6.5
speaking:6.5
writing:6.0
and reading;5.5
am i still eligible to apply or i will need to write another IELTS?please respond urgently.............ooooooo

Unfortunately,you have to write the IELTS again as you need to have a minimum of band score 6.0 in each of the language abilities. The score in your reading test is less than what is required.

ChriGo: ...Nna oga solomon why u dey talk me indirectly na....take ya time mehn!!....everyone on this thread intead coming back to naija except me .....anyway nice piece from the wise himsef....u too much.....

You know I was tempted to say some people like Chrigo will not come back...
Even if you don't come back,you sure will send money to the people home,build hospitals for them,build schools for the less privileged,etc that way you are contributing in the little way you can.

@Chrigo,you're doing a good job here. God bless you!

klems4real: Sometimes, I weep for our dear country considering the number of people that want to leave for a better life abroad. Ranging from, quality eduacation, constant electricity, access to motorable roads, access to good health facilities to name but a few. People Praying and fasting for their TRVs to be granted at the embassies. In the process, some get outrightly duped of their hard-earned money all in the bid to travel out. And the successful ones struggle with extreme weather conditions just to survive over there.
The common man wakes up everyday without hope of what to eat. Graduates roaming the streets for employment, and some even get duped out of desperation and some are forced to take up menial jobs just to survive. If at all there are openings for employment, the openings are being hijacked by the politicians and the highly placed. However, with respect to the on-going Nigerian Immigration Service recruitment exercise, I learnt from sunnewsonline.com (yesterday) that there are only few hundreds of vacancies available and more than six million Nigerians have already applied. To make matter worse the application is not free, you are to pay a non-refundable application fee of one thousand naira, with no chance or hope of succeeding at the end of the day.
Why do we have all the natural resouces that keep other developed countries going and yet we live in abject poverty?

Who is that MESSIAHA that will convert the wealth under our feet to the wealth in our hands?

Please do not weep yet,wait until you step your feet into Canada/USA/France/UK! We are VERY VERY backward. Rather than weep,let's us do the little we can in whatever legal way we can however way we can to make it better. That is the essence of this thread I believe,for people to better acquaint themselves of the workings of the system of developed countries like Canada so we can come back to make Nigeria better.

Trust me,some people will never look back when they leave the shores of this country,not because they never intend coming back but when they begin to imagine the quantum of what is to be done to catch up with Canada for instance,they lose faith.


Bottom line: work hard the way you can to make your immediate environment better in the little way you can however legal way you can.

brownee06: Thanks guys for ur response.
You know that is part of the reason I am worried. My credit card has not been charged yet and I haven't gotten any message from them either.

You get your CC/DD charged at the point when you receive your PER. Hope you'd share the goodnews when you receive the PER in the coming weeks.

adaobi123: Use a uk line. Using mtn will cost money. You could use lines like EE (T Mobile and orange) or three - 3. I think it costs about £5 a month for bbm.

wolske: Hello Nairalanders, sorry if my question sounds stupid; please how do i continue to interact with my friends on BBM when i leave Nigeria for the UK? Would it be possible to keep using my MTN or would i have to buy another line for it in the UK? what line would you recommend?

wolske: Hello Nairalanders, sorry if my question sounds stupid; please how do i continue to interact with my friends on BBM when i leave Nigeria for the UK? Would it be possible to keep using my MTN or would i have to buy another line for it in the UK? what line would you recommend?

T mobile will cost you £5 per month just like @adaobi123 mentioned and it will give you what MTN N1,500 will give you.

Big BamBam: Hi, I am happy with your good works.
I wrote my IELTS on 7th September, 2013. I have checked my result on their website and my scores are as follows:
Listening = 6.5
Writing = 6.0
Reading = 5.5
Speaking = 6.5
Overall Band Score = 6.0

Will CIC accept this result as Reading band score is less than 6.0. Or should I write another IELTS?

Also, how long does it take WES to post ECA report? I have received my UNOFFICIAL copy for close to 4 weeks now without seeing the ORIGINAL hard copy.

Thanks for responding.

Your IELTS result is good but not good enough for FSWP. You will need to write the IELTS again ensuring you score a minimum of band score 6.0 in each of the language abilities.

Posting ECA official report depends on a number of factors(depending on the medium of postage you opted for). If you are expecting the delivery through the regular mail delivery, it will take a minimum of 3 weeks {It usually take longer than this}. You can't track the location when you make use of the regular delivery mail. You never can tell, it may be sitting on the desk of somebody in the post office. So patience is the keyword here as you can't tell the exact location.

brownee06: Hi all, I'm just a bit worried.
I made my application on the 5th of July and I haven't gotten any response yet, not even a msg dat my application has been received.
Is this normal, does it really take this long?
The visa office stated on my application is London.
And I know my occupation has not been filled yet because it is category 3215
I'm jst confused

You have nothing to worry about as your eligible occupation is one of the slow moving ones(The number of applicants are not significantly high as the other eligible occupations).

AGW, you should get a PER in the coming weeks as applicants who put in their applications in the 1st week in July are presently receiving PER(This is dependent on when your application got to CIC). Just remain positive!

kelo314: Thank you for your response I will do exactly as you suggested. One more question, do you think it will not affect the outcome of my application since proof of admission stated at least one year of lawfully admitted in the checklist No:8, though in my application it was stated that my program will finish by September 2014.

Let me find out, which visa office did you state on your application form as responsible for your application?

kelo314: Please I need your suggestion on this issue, I have submitted my application since first week in August for job category NOC 2263.

I am presently doing a master degree in Germany which runs from September 2012 till September 2014, but my current resident permit will expire 5th November 2013, at times, the renewal may take longer time before being issued, please do I need to explain the situation to CIC that am about to renew my permit and back it up with my admission letter which stated the date my current program will finish. In addition, students in Germany now have the opportunity to get post studies visa for 18 months. I need your suggestion please.

You are only to inform the CIC if anything significant/material happen that will affect your application.

Note that until you receive your PER, it is difficult (and not advisable) communicating with the CIC as the process of retrieving your application will be cumbersome and will also slow down the process of you obtaining your PER.

I will advise you send in the notification of change if you have succeeded in renewing your PR in Germany and only if you have obtained a PER.

mercylicious: Cap udated again. 2147 is now 290
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/complete-applications.asp

That is correct! The total complete applications received is now 1,997 of 5,000.

Hotstepper: Please Solomonwis, how do I get the ECA report? Which organization should I send my transcript to? Please education me on this education aspect of the application. Thank you

"Having your foreign education assessed.

If you do not have a Canadian degree or diploma (in some cases, a “certificate”), you must get your foreign education verified and assessed to prove it is equal to a completed Canadian credential.

You must send an original Educational Credential Assessment (ECA) report with proof of your foreign credential (diploma or certificate, and transcripts) or we will not process your application. The ECA report must be done by an agency approved by CIC.

If your report shows that your credential is not equal to a completed Canadian one, you are not eligible to apply under the FSWP....."

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/factor-education.asp

"Starting in May 2013, all people applying under the Federal Skilled Worker Program (FSWP) must get an Educational Credential Assessment (ECA) of their completed foreign educational credentials.

If you are only submitting a Canadian educational credential, you do not need to do this.

An Educational Credential Assessment (ECA) is used to verify that your foreign degree, diploma, certificate (or other proof of your credential) is valid and equal to a completed credential in Canada.

You must have such an assessment if you:
•are a principal applicant, and
•got your education outside Canada.

Your education must be assessed against Canadian standards by one of the organizations designated by CIC (below).

When you apply as a federal skilled worker with a foreign educational credential, an original ECA report must:
•be included with your application along with proof of your foreign credential,
•be issued on or after the date the organization was designated by CIC,
•not be more than five years old on the date that CIC gets your application, and
•show your credential is equal to a completed Canadian one.

If you do not submit this assessment when you apply, your application is not complete. We will not process it and will send it back to you.

These assessments are to help make sure we choose immigrants with the best possible chances of success in Canada. But, being assessed does not guarantee you will be employed in your field or at a certain level. Employers are not bound by the assessment.

If you plan to work in an occupation that is regulated in Canada, you should contact the regulatory authority in the province where you plan to live. They can give you important information about getting your license, including any steps you can take before you leave your home country."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assessment.asp

You can approach any of the below agencies for your ECA

•Comparative Education Service – University of Toronto School of Continuing Studies - http://learn.utoronto.ca/international professionals/comparative-education-service-ces

•International Credential Assessment Service of Canada- http://www.icascanada.ca/fsw/

•World Education Services - http://www.wes.org/ca/fswp/

•Medical Council of Canada (professional body) - http://www.mcc.ca/en/

gel03: In June 2011, the journey to canadian permanent residence visa started for my family. Today it is a dream come true. We finally got our immigrant visas on 19th september, 2013. To God be the Glory.

Congratulations, I believe it was a long journey to success and it is worth the wait.

Kindly visit this link from time to time to offer advice to prospective immigrants as it will encourage people https://www.nairaland.com/1279130/canadian-federal-skilled-worker-program-timelines.

Trust others want to hear how the journey was.

Once again, congratulations... Welcome to Canada!

[quote author=Deeone_bangin!]Does the ECO go extra lenght at knowing ur current account balance after the 6months bank statement that's being provided. Or they only verify the one ( acct statement) they have with them.

Thanks[/quote]They verify the authenticity of your bank account as provided and may go extra length (as you have implicitly empowered them to by giving them your bank statement) to verify anything and everything that relate to your bank statement in relation to your entry clearance application.

[quote author=adnanyounis34@y]thank you tranquill
is there any checklist of documents which i need for me and my spouse. my point was that i domt have experience after my highest degree, so that wont be a problem?

Adnan[/quote]This link http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5612E.pdf provide a direct link with the checklist as it is on CIC website.

You can also read for further insight in the link below
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG7TOC.asp

Note that your work experience (either prior to your obtaining your second degree or after) must be within the last 10 years and must relate with the eligible occupation under which you want your application assessed to claim any point under experience.

To everyone who think a 300k return ticket is impossible, you should factor in the fact that Heathrow/Gatwick are supposed to be the connecting airport... The final destination of the applicants matter.

Now in the eye of the ECO, their estimation will always factor in exigencies and externalities hence they apply the principle of prudence in arriving at expenses for the trip. For Instance, a flight from Lagos to Newcastle will range between N226k (on British Airways) to N367k (on Etihad) and even a little above N1million (on Delta). This is for a return flight between October 15 2013 to October 31st 2013.

You would rather include contingency/miscellaneous in your estimation (as a ECO would) than bring up estimates that are absolutely unrealistic.

I would rather make a Budget of 300k for a return flight ticket to make up for any allowance/inflationary tendencies than assume everything will remain constant. Besides and beyond flight tickets, there will be expenses to be incurred and so, for any discerning mind bringing up an estimate of 250k (when the account balance is N600k) is totally absurd especially when your business venture depends solely on you.

We need to factor in several factors just as an ECO would to safely conclude one has covered his/her track to secure an entry clearance.

Jen1: I think there is oh, I noticed wen dey sent me a refusal letter, wen I tracked the application the msg was "processed application is on it's way to...." Same with the other guy from India whom they told dat he had forged cert or something. But when it's positive I think the tracking msg would be "processed passport is on it's way to... Or is ready for pick up". My thoughts oh, I might be wrong.

Not so...you get the same messages either granted or refused.
You won't know until you open the package.

lovesavvi: I my business certificate is enterprise nd my bank statement is savings only nd balance in my account is 639k nd. My budget for the trip is 250k approximately 1k pounds since my. Brother is going to provide me accomodation nd feeding for the 3wks. Nd I included my ages parent in my application, so how can I abandorn my. Busineess and my ages parent in nigeria and stay illegally in uk. What do u tink I can do re apply or review? Because I see dis as injustce, I may. Even remain single if I wish is nt dia concern if I dnt marry or av dependent children becos dat is d first point dat eco bring out nd even acknowledge dat I av business dat am runnin in naija , so am tinkin of appeal or review

Well, by my estimation the 250k made available for the trip is way too small. By including your aged parents, I don't mean their bio data,I mean are you in any way responsible for their upkeep and did you state how much that comes to monthly in the application form?

You can not appeal the decision as you are not entitled to an appeal. Asking for a review will be a complete waste of time. You can only re-apply.

Make sure in reapplying, you state how much you give your dependents (Your parents in this case) monthly. The return ticket alone should cost you nothing less than 300k which is half of what you have in your Bank account-This will be seen to impact negatively on the continuity of your business (which could be a reason not to come back into the country), so you need to work on your finances as it is too meager an incentive to want to return into the country.

AeeNgy: No one can understand the joy I feel today. I never asked a single question in this forum because, its useless asking questions that had been previously answered. I used this forum to cheer myself up while I waited for a decision to be made on my application.
Contrary to what some people think, there are some reliable agents in Nigeria who don't charge a dime to assist you- Please, I am not advertising any educational agent as I only sort their assistance because of my tight schedule.
All we did was follow UKBA guideline, submit the right documents, pray, believe, and " dream". My visa was eventually issued after 9 working days. All roads lead to Aberdeen and congratulations in advance to those still waiting. @ Justwise, are you married? Sometimes I wonder how you and other moderators cope with your personal life.

NG, Congrats! See you in Aberdeen....

Tranquill: Brov you started something nice but then dont make us feel that it is only the information that comes through you is correct. There was update and someone posted it here, you are dismissing it without even taking 2 mins to check out CIC site yourself. Replying someones comment means you have access to internet why not comfirm it urself?

Did you see my comment after what you quoted? Do you have anything against my person? Asking a question isn't out of place is it? I could have made a mistake (of course I did) like everybody else.

Nobody says what is said by solomonwis is the only correct thing, if you choose to make it so then so it is! If you carefully check the CIC website you will see there's a mistake on it just as anyone wouldn't have spotted the mistake. Yes, there was an update but the total complete application received still reads 1,812 out of 5,000 which was the total complete application shown as at the last update( This prove even the almighty CIC makes mistakes!). In actual fact the total complete application received should read 1,878 of 5,000.


I really don't know what you are beating at...

Bwave: She is actually right. Cap was updated again on September 23, 2013.

Ok and what is the total complete applications received against the overall please?

mercylicious: Cap updated again;
ation [NOC] code)Number of complete applications counted towards the 300 sub-cap Footnote 1
0211   Engineering managers198
1112   Financial and investment analysts300 (Cap reached)
2113   Geoscientists and oceanographers12
2131   Civil engineers125
2132   Mechanical engineers151
2134   Chemical engineers64
2143   Mining engineers3
2145   Petroleum engineers1
2144   Geological engineers25
2146   Aerospace engineers7
2147   Computer engineers (except software engineers/designers)264
2154   Land surveyors5
2174   Computer programmers and interactive media developers 300 (Cap reached)
2243   Industrial instrument technicians and mechanics26
2263   Inspectors in public and environmental health and occupational health and safety86
3141   Audiologists and speech-language pathologists4
3142   Physiotherapists127
3143   Occupational Therapists17
3211   Medical laboratory technologists91
3212   Medical laboratory technicians and pathologists' assistants30
3214   Respiratory therapists, clinical perfusionists and cardiopulmonary technologists7
3215   Medical Radiation Technologists17
3216   Medical Sonographers10
3217   Cardiology technologists and electrophysiological diagnostic technologists8

The last update was on September 18,2013 and this was posted here same date..No update after this date.

lovesavvi: I submited my business registratn certificate, bank statement, tax clearance, invoice nd receipt, complementary card. Am self employed,my brother document are invitation letter, payslips, bank statement, resident permit, utility bill, email conversation btw us. Am single , not yet married. Where do I went wrong?

The business registration certificate submitted, is it a private limited liability company or just a registered business/business venture? If it is a private limited liability, did the other partners/shareholders consent to your travelling? Did you include other business docs apart from certificate of Incorporation like forms CO2 and CO7?

Another angle to it is to look at your bank statement, which bank statement did you submit( Personal, Business or both),how much your account balance is and how much you intend spending for the trip. Aside the business registration certificate, bank statement, tax clearance and other business documents, you seem not to have included anything else about your family hence the decision of the ECO. Even if unmarried, as a business entrepreneur you should have dependents(such as your parents for instance) and this appear not to have been stated.

Those are the areas given weight to by the ECO which seem to be against you, you need to address those concern and then you can reapply.

lovesavvi: This is. Rerefusal letter, you have applied to visit your brother in the uk and u av submitted an invitation letter and supporting details from him,however, inorder to make a decision on ur application, I must primarily assess ur persional circumstances in nigeria and ur intentions in uk. U av nt shown any[b] close family ties to nigeria[/b]. I fully acknowledge that u av submitted clarification of ur financial circumstances and ur business position in nigeria, however dis alone are nt sufficient with regard to ur intentions in d uk. U are unmarried with no dependent children. I do not therefore consider dat u av demonstrated enough close persional and family ties and personal economic circumstances that necessitate your countinue presence in nigeria. This. Causes me to question your reasons for seeking entry into d uk nd ur intentions once there. Given d lack of adequate evidence of ur own circumstances in nigeria, on d balance of probabilities, am nt satisfied dat. U av shown genuinely seekin entry as a visitor for a limited period as stated by u or dat u intend to leave uk at the end of ur proposed visit as required by paragraph 41 nd of HC 395. Dis is my situation, wat do u tink I can do? Justwise nd all d guru in d house am waiting for ur respond. Am really feel bad nao

The bolded part actually addressed the reason for the refusal. The family tie is of concern here and your financial and economic tie were also in question.

It will also be better if you list the documents you submitted along with the application.

buzritchy: Thanks so much bro.... Am just about paying for the course which comes up by January 2014.. Am just trying to properly and carefully plan myself well before time.
As per social/ marital tie- am single
Economic tie- just planning to start work by next month and save up before my proposed training... So for now no investment but can I make use of any relative's as sponsor ?
Financial tie- aside paying up the course fee and booking for the training... After payment of the above fee u noted above: visa app fee and biometric... What other fee is required and does my sponsor has to have a huge money in his acct

Just wanna plan well... It's just a short course an I will definitely come back because i still need to do more courses in the future.. Though I studied Business mgt buh am keen in leaning about aviation..... Interests in d IATA accounting and finance training... Thx once more bro

It is good that you are planning well ahead....You are not married and you have no source of income, you don't have any economic tie, you want to go for a training for just 5 days (which will not impact on a job that is readily and already available)- All of those are negatives which will raise a flag (a red flag!). You need to offset these through a sponsor (who obviously have the economic and financial wherewithal) who must have a good reason for wanting to send you for a 5 day training. Now, you will need to prove beyond doubt what this sponsor will stand to benefit ( this doesn't necessarily have to be material benefits).You also need to prove the relationship between you and this sponsor.

From the above, you need to prove beyond doubt that you intend returning to the country after the training and outline the benefit(s) of the training.

bids1759: helloooo! i have been to the UK twice, on expiration of my visa, i reapply for a 2yrs and was denied... though the reason given was a flaw on my part cos i started i was going to spend over 800,000 Nair on my trip which was 10times my salary, for 8days; i miss understood the question for how much was in my acct; my appeal is only limited to this, can i appeal and what are my chances?

You can't appeal and administrative review is out of place (as you've confirmed you made an error in the application form) I will advise you reapply correcting the errors made.

I still silent voice in me says please give it sometime before reapplying[size=8pt][/size]