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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Sin Against The Holy Spirit? by Steep(op): 12:25pm On Aug 29, 2022
Again Pharaoh's heart was hardened till he was destroyed.


Exodus 8:15
Christianity Etc › What Is The Sin Against The Holy Spirit? by Steep(op):
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

The background story
Jesus had just cast out demons from those that were possessed of demons. Everyone was surprised they understood that this was a clear sign that Jesus was from God because this could only be done by those who were of God, It was a clear and undeniable sign of who Jesus, the pharisee had no excuse but they decided to make one up for themselves, they declared that Jesus was empowered by the prince of demons, beelzelbub. The problem with their thought was, how will Satan cast out Satan? How can his kingdom stand like that?

Second question was, by what means their sons, who cast out devils ( probably referring to those Jesus gave power to cast out devils) by what power do they cast out devils?

One should note the following,
1.This was about christ identity and status, without acknowledging Christ as the messiah one cannot believe on him
2. Evidence of Jesus being the messiah was presented clearly and undeniably.

3. This evidence was provided by the holy ghost in casting out devils.

4. The evidence was denied base on persistent unbelief.


The holy ghost is the one that convinces men of sin and convinces men that Jesus is the saviour.

John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

In Genesis 6 vv3
Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

The holy ghost is said to strive with humans.
But however the holy Spirit will not continue to do so forever.

The mention of shortening life span teaches us one thing that is, what the holy ghost does in striving with man is only for a short time. Throughout a man's life time, the holy Spirit does not stop to give them evidence of God's existence, so that perhaps they might seek God.

Acts 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

What then is the sin and blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, and how is it different from other sins?
The sin against the Holy Ghost is a persistent rejection and hardening of heart against the work of the holy spirit in turning one to God.
It is a blasphemy to consider despised the Spirit of grace, meaning this means rejecting the evidence the holy spirit present about Jesus.

Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

The pharisees that attributed the power of the holy ghost to that of Satan is an example another example was Pharaoh.

Pharaoh asked for signs from the Lord for Moses, this was provided but pharoah called for the magicians of Pharaoh to do the same.

This was a clear rejection of the sign from the Lord by Pharaoh thus God hardened his heart.
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptural Proof That A Child Of God Is God by Steep(m): 11:26pm On Aug 28, 2022
Romance › Re: I Am A Man Trapped In A Woman's Body by Steep(m): 11:24pm On Aug 28, 2022
Jesus is coming back soon, this video below exposes feminism/LGBT movements to what it really is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f8fotz5GUo
Christianity Etc › Re: God Or Satan Who truly Owns The World? Help I'm Confused. by Steep(m): 11:02pm On Aug 28, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
In other words God is The Owner of this House called the world and He gave Usufactory Rights and Possession to Tenant, Adam who now wrongfully sub-leased it to Satan.

And now Satan is the one leading almost all the Tenants.
yeap.
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptural Proof That A Child Of God Is God by Steep(m): 10:49pm On Aug 28, 2022
nencounter10:
The Bible says anyone fathered by God is equal to God. (John 5:18). I believe it, and that settles it. I am equal to God. God and is children are equal. They are all Gods. None is lower than the other. They are all Deities.


A God is an object of worship. Gods are meant to be worshipped. If you can't be worshipped, you are not God. I accept worship as God.


Anybody who is fathered by God is God and thus qualified for worship.
John 5 vv 18 never said anyone fathered by God is God.

Quoting scripture out of context is no new thing.

Satan still quoted scripture also.
Luke 4:10.

The very definition of God has thrashed you already.

God was never created.
Psalms 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

The bible made it clear that the man born again is a creature.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

The bible made it clear that the wrath of God is upon anyone who serve and worship the creature rather the creator.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

In verse 25 the word "more than the creator" actually means "beside the creator" it is "para" in the Greek interlinear.



It is a pity for your soul.

If you want to argue further I won't bother replying you.
Christianity Etc › Re: God Or Satan Who truly Owns The World? Help I'm Confused. by Steep(m): 8:48pm On Aug 28, 2022
KiNg0G:
in the beginning God created the heavens and earth and everything there in.. which means he is the owner.. the creator..... but how come when lucifer tempted jesus christ... he showed him all the good things of life...if only he would bow to him.. then it will all be his. (as another owner)

Does it mean satan owns the world?
did God sold the world to him after creation?
was there any sort of bargain when he casted him from heaven?
is there two owners of this world?

I'm confused

Seun
lalasticlala
mynd44
God owns this world but he passed authority of this world to Adam and Adam through his disobedience passed it to Satan.
However, Jesus Christ who is the last Adam has overcome and will in the future collect the authority of this world from Satan.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


Jesus will take back the kingdom and handover it back to God the father at the end.

1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
Christianity Etc › Re: God Or Satan Who truly Owns The World? Help I'm Confused. by Steep(m): 8:42pm On Aug 28, 2022
God1000:
The devil did not own this world, from what we know, the devil was once the second in command to God in heaven until he rebelled against God and they fought, he was defeated together with his rebellious Angeles and they were forced out of heaven
False, the devil was never second in command to God and God never fought with Satan.
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptural Proof That A Child Of God Is God by Steep(m): 1:28pm On Aug 28, 2022
nencounter10:
The Bible proves clearly that a child of God is God.

Let's see the relevant scriptures.

John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

The above scripture stated clearly that anyone fathered by God is equal to God.The Jews rightly held this notion. Neither Jesus nor the Bible disprove this notion.

We know for certain that a child of God is fathered by God.(See John 1:12-13, James 1:18.)



John 10:30 I and my Father are one. 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

In this scripture the Bible is saying any man who says God is his father is saying that he is God. This is the notion held by the Jews. Jesus, in latter verses confirmed that this notion is correct. The Bible also did not disprove this notion.

Since a child of God is born of God ( See John 1:13, James 1:18), he has a right to call God his father. Therefore, he has a right to say he is God.


So, this is an incontrovertible fact: a child of God is God because he was fathered by God.


The Jewish leaders would not believe that Jesus was God because he was a man. They wouldn't believe that God fathered him. So, they went about plotting his death and did not stop until they killed him. Similarly, some groups of persons in this generation would not believe that a child of God is God because they are men. These people are no different from the Jewish leaders who killed Jesus. They are going about "attacking" children of God who say they are God. They are like thier fathers- the Jewish leaders. Were they to be alive during Jesus' days, they would have been at the fore front of killing Jesus.
Before I proceed, answer these question
1. Are you equal to God?
2. If you are God then you should be worshiped as God?
3.. Are those who worship saints like Mary and the rest wrong or right?
Christianity Etc › Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m):
author=nencounter10 post=116076574]
call it argument or whatever, the fact is your heresy has being exposed.

Going by you, Catholics that worship Mary and saints are right.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m):
[quote author=nencounter10 post=116033812][/quote]
In Greek, a noun has up to nine or more different cases with each case having slightly different spelling but all referring to the same noun. Consider an example below.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The first word that was translated God in the above verse is the Greek word Theon while the other is Theos. They are two different cases of the Theos which refers to God.
Do you know they all have functions? And that their functions depends on how they are used.


In acts 7 vv 40, the word theous was used to describe the idol Israel commanded Aaron to make, same word that was used in John 10:34,35.

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Words have function and their meaning depends on a lot of factors which also include the intention of the writer, especially Greek word.
The use of theos or theon does not mean it should be interpreted as "God" same thing with elohim

Satan is also called the God of this world.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The word "god" there is "theon" so does that mean Satan is God? Certainly not.


Why would God call them Gods if they are not Gods. What exactly do you take God for? A joker? A liar? A deceiver? God called them exactly what they were-Gods. The succeeding verse to PS 82:6 corroborate it.


KJV
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

NIV
Psalm 82:7
[7]But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”

Good news
Psalm 82:7
[7]But you will die like mortals; your life will end like that of any prince.”

NLT
Psalms 82:7
[7]But you will die like mere mortals
and fall like every other ruler.’”

Clearly, God did not believe they were mere mortals.
When Jesus called the pharisees serpents and vipers does that mean they were really serpents and vipers?

Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Why would God call them Gods if they are not Gods. What exactly do you take God for? A joker? A liar? A deceiver? God called them exactly what they were-Gods. The succeeding verse to PS 82:6 corroborate it.


KJV
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

NIV
Psalm 82:7
[7]But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”

Good news
Psalm 82:7
[7]But you will die like mortals; your life will end like that of any prince.”

NLT
Psalms 82:7
[7]But you will die like mere mortals
and fall like every other ruler.’”

Clearly, God did not believe they were mere mortals.
when Jesus called the pharisees serpents and vipers does it mean they were really serpents and vipers?
Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?


One of the problem that people who are not native speakers face when they read a translation is that they often miss the intent. In the scripture you quoted God was not calling Moses Elohim. Consulting other translations will help you understand the intent.


Amplified
Exodus 7:1
[1]THE Lord said to Moses, Behold, I make you as God to Pharaoh [to declare My will and purpose to him]; and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet.

NIV
Genesis 7:1
[1]Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet.


Good news
Exodus 7:1
[1]The Lord said, “I am going to make you like God to the king, and your brother Aaron will speak to him as your prophet.

NLT
Exodus 7:1
[1]Then the lord said to Moses, “Pay close attention to this. I will make you seem like God to Pharaoh, and your brother, Aaron, will be your prophet.

Clearly God was saying Moses will be like God to pharoah.
now you are talking of intent but missed it all along for Psalm 82.
Let me tell you, Exodus 7 vv1 does not have "like God" or "as God" in it what it has is "God" "elohim". Using your logic of palm 82 then Moses was made God.

And Yähwè יָהוֶה 3068 said 559 z8799 unto x413 Möšè מֹשֶׁה, 4872 See, 7200 z8798 I have made 5414 z8804 thee an ´élöhîm אֱלֹהִים 430 to Par`ò פַּרעֹה: 6547 and ´Ahárön אַהֲרֹן 175 thy brother 251 shall be x1961 thy prophet.




True, but if God calls you God, then you are God. Whatever God says is, is.
So when God called Moses elohim then Moses must be elohim. When Jesus called the pahrisee serpents they must be serpents, right?

KJV
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Amplified
1 John 3:9
[9]No one born (begotten) of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, for God's nature abides in him [His principle of life, the divine sperm, remains permanently within him]; and he cannot practice sinning because he is born (begotten) of God.

Good news
1 John 3:9
[9]None of those who are children of God continue to sin, for God's very nature is in them; and because God is their Father, they cannot continue to sin.



All human beings are spirits in human body, does that mean all human beings are born of God? To be born of God does not mean you become a spirit, It means the spirit of man to be regenerated to the image of God.
However, it does not mean to become God.
Man is wholly, completely and entirely a spirit. He has a soul and lives in a body. His soul consist of a will, a mind and an emotion. He is neither a body nor a soul, but a spirit. Just like God is a spirit, man is a spirit. So when God is referring to man, he is, more often than not, reffering specifically to the spirit- the real man.

2 Corinthians 5:17 tells us what happens when a man gives his life to Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Note that the word man here refers to the spirit.

The word translated " new" in the above verse is the Greek word "kaino" which means a new specie that never existed before. So, when a man gives his life to Christ a new specie of spirit is created by God or, more correctly put, born by God.


Rom 6:6 tells us what happened to the old spirit which the Bible calls an man.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

The old spirit is crucified or killed or destroyed or gotten rid of. The person that says the sinner's prayer accepting Jesus as his lord and savior and the person who emerges from that prayer are two different persons.

Everyone that is fathered by God is God.


John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

The Jews realised natively that anyone who is fathered by God is God, yet the children of this generation can't realise that. One doesn't have to be a genius to realise that children are the kind of their father.
God's seed is his word,

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

We can see that the seed of God in a born again is a person, which is the word of God dwells through his Spirit.
It does not mean those born of God are now God.

The bible is clear that the old man that was crucified is the flesh not spirit.
I don't know where you get your theology from, it is so wrong.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

There is no where in the Bible that says man is a spirit. Man composed of soul, spirit and body.
Man having spirit doesn't make them God, also angels are spirits does that make them God? No.
Even while God is Spirit does not mean spirits are God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Video About Rise Of The Divine Feminine by Steep(op): 10:44am On Aug 24, 2022
Dgb
Christianity Etc › Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m): 7:37pm On Aug 23, 2022
Janosky:
At the bolded comments in your post.
No, Sir.
Theou is the correct rendition at John 10:33, the Jews and John the apostle references Jesus Christ as a god (theou screenshots).
Your Trinitarian mentors CHANGED theou @ John 10:33 because they were Trinitarians.

John 10:33, Emphatic Diaglott Bible and NWT gives the correct rendition of that verse.
Like John 10:33 like John 1:1.

John 10:36,Is he not God's son?
In a nutshell, Psalm 82:6 applied to Jesus Christ.

what are you saying? theous or Theous is the general word for God whether true, false or symbolic like men. Context is what determines which is which.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Sheds Tears When Reading Philipians 1. by Steep(m): 7:29pm On Aug 23, 2022
Mrsoft3:
It is needless to have a conversation with you,you have made up your mind believing what you feel. It's a free world and everybody have right to their choices. I pray you make the right choice. No need having this argument with you
she is in delusion!

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Christianity Etc › Re: Only Through Jesus Christ Can A Person Produce Righteousness. by Steep(op): 4:28pm On Aug 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
That's why i said only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES can prove the topic of this thread, you can never ever have the knowledge to expatiate on it!

How can you prove that the God of Israel who authored the Bible is the one and only true God? How can you prove that a first century Jewish carpenter who later became a preacher and teacher is the son of the true God through whom all mankind must be saved?

I tell you my friend without the JWs you can't expatiate on the topic, you can only do copy and paste stuff. That's why you will end up saying it's those your God has chosen that will be saved when you're frustrated! smiley
Ok.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only Through Jesus Christ Can A Person Produce Righteousness. by Steep(op): 3:36pm On Aug 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Before you can convince a neutral person you need to explain why they must believe in the name of a first century Jewish carpenter who later became a preacher and teacher, quoting a book can't convince them since it's not everyone that believes in your book! smiley
leave others alone, not everyone will believe only those God has chosen will believe.
What should be your concern now is to receive the gospel.



1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
Christianity Etc › Re: Only Through Jesus Christ Can A Person Produce Righteousness. by Steep(op): 2:48pm On Aug 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It's OK, forget about me and JWs try expatiate further on the topic of your thread:
Only Through Jesus Christ Can A Person Produce Righteousness
Convince your followers! smiley
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Your conversation since shows that you depend on group not on Christ.
The above verse shows God didn't approve any group or individuals to be the means of salvation only the name of Jesus.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only Through Jesus Christ Can A Person Produce Righteousness. by Steep(op): 2:06pm On Aug 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I will not like to derail your thread so prove that you're WITNESSING for Jesus by telling your friends the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you said:
Only Through Jesus Christ Can A Person Produce Righteousness

I perfectly agree with this but i'm 100% sure that you only did a copy and paste stuff, you can't expatiate further!

So i'll just follow without interfering in what you are discussing with your friends unless you ask me to expatiate on the topic of discussion! smiley
Jehovah witness do not witness for Jesus. E.O.D.

the knowledge of God is not the carnal wisdom Jehovah witness organization teaches.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only Through Jesus Christ Can A Person Produce Righteousness. by Steep(op): 1:29pm On Aug 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It's easy to quote God's word but explanation is only given to just one group!

The title of your thread is correct but the understanding is given to just one group Jehovah's Witnesses. Daniel 12:10
So i'll follow your thread without telling you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what God's word says about the one and only means that humans can achieve the righteousness of God which is through Christ Jesus! Deuteronomy 18:15-19 smiley
@bolded, where in Daniel 12 vv 10 did it say only one group are giving understanding.
By the way, where in the new testament are people said to witness for Jehovah because in the old testament it was the jews and in the new it was Jesus.
But rather, Jesus said his true followers shall be his true witness.

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Jehovah witness organization do not witness for Jesus.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only Through Jesus Christ Can A Person Produce Righteousness. by Steep(op): 12:56pm On Aug 23, 2022
AntiChristian:
Even before Jesus people has been righteous!

Was John the Baptist not righteous despite not meeting Jesus?

All this new testament Paul worshippers seems to amaze me!
can you name th people that has being righteous and how they became righteous?
Christianity Etc › Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m):
nencounter10:
Jesus Christ's proved the correct interpretation of Psalm 82: 6 is with reference to deity when he quoted it in John 10:34. He called God his father and the Jews tried to stone him. He asked why they were trying to stone him. They told him it was because you, a man, are calling yourself a deity. His response was that there was nothing with me, a man, calling myself deity after all God had called humans deity in the scripture. Jesus' correct interpretation of Psalm 82:6 proves that a man can be God.
in John 10 vv 34, Jesus said they were called called "gods" the Greek word was theous not theou.
However, what Jesus was saying was that, if people who recieved those words were called gods, then he could be called God in a much greater way. Jesus was saying he is more qualified to be called God than those people. It does not mean they were really God.

let us see, what it means for men to be called elohim in the old testament.
The first man to be called Elohim was Moses
In exodus 7 vv 1.

Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

The literally interpretation of "a god" is elohim which was used in Psalm 82.

However what does it mean?

Exodus 4:16 And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.

This explains perfectly what it means for men to be called God. It means one who represent God.




If you have ever read any of the prophesis of King David concerning Jesus in the Psalms. In many of them he seem to be talking about himself. Reference to them by Peter and Paul made it clear he was prophesying. Consider an example: Thou wilt not abandon my soul in hell, thou will not allow they holy one to see corruption. If you read that verse in context in the Psalm, you will conclude he was talking about himself, yet Peter, on the day of Pentecost gave the correct interpretation to mean he was referring to Christ. Similarly, contrary to the conclusion you came to on reading Psalm 82:6 in context, Jesus gave the correct interpretation in John 10:34 to mean calling men Gods.
calling men gods, does not make them God. What you have there is not Christianity it is sometime else.



The assertion that if God begat us we are Gods is not flawed. It was the very reason the Jews nearly stoned jesus. It was the very reason they killed him. It stood to common sense to the Jews that if God were to have a son/child, his child will also be God because all beings give birth to children after their kind. Jesus in his reaction to the Jews in John 10 agreed with then. In stead of telling them that their conclusion was wrong, he instead said their was nothing wrong with him claiming to be God.
yeap the logic is flawed.
Jesus was not claiming he is a god like them but rather he is a God more than them, note the difference.


It is not true that the Greek makes no distinction between Gods and gods. Greek language has but capital and small letters. The Greek language also has rules for capitalisation. They could have simply used a small letter in place of a capital letter in the word Theo.
please bring a an example of where a distinction was made.


The Hebrew word Elohim is used exclusively in scriptures to refer to God. If you say this is not so, then give me a scriptural verse we're it is not so. I will readily prove you wrong. I have a copy of the original text.
I have not said elohim is not used exclusively for God, (If I have said so it is an error,), it is also used for those representing God, such as the judges.


When a person is born again, he is born of God. He receives the exact same nature God has which Bible calls the Divine nature, that is, nature of deity(2 Peter 1:4). Also, he receives the exact same life God has called Eternal life. (1 John 5:11). If a person who is born of God has the exact same nature that God has, and the exact same life that God then he is definitely God. God has the Divine life, the life of Deity- Zoe. His children have have the Divine life , the life of Deity called Zoe. They are definitely Gods.
can you point out where in the scripture they receive the exact nature of God, hope you know there is a difference between "the nature of God" and the " the full nature of God"? Or " the image of God" and "the exact image of God"?

You said spiritual birth is different from physical birth. That is true. Bible gave us the basic difference between spiritual birth and physical birth.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Physical birth produces physical beings, spiritual birth produces spirit beings. God is a spirit, when he gives birth to children, his children are spirits ( who live in physical bodies).

My advice to you is to consult different translations and the original text often when you study your Bible. It will make things clear to you. I suggest you start with John 1:13 for a start . You will see reason to change your mind.
All human beings are spirits in human body, does that mean all human beings are born of God? To be born of God does not mean you become a spirit, It means the spirit of man to be regenerated to the image of God.
However, it does not mean to become God.
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Philippians 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

The fruit of righteousness can only come through Jesus Christ, it is only when we are united with Jesus christ through faith can we produce righteousness. Only those who depend on Jesus only not on themselves or another apart from Jesus can be able to lead a life that pleases God. When we Continue to depend on Jesus we are not cut off but rather we produce more and more of his fruits of righteousness. John 15 vv 1.

We are absolutely nothing without Jesus christ, we continue to depend on him when we live by his word and trust in his power at work in us, following him in every way, then we produce the fruit of righteousness which pleases God our Father.

Those who depend on themselves (their intellect, strength or any other thing) are cut off from christ).
Who do you depend on to lead your life? whose principles rules your life?
If it is not Jesus, then you are lost and on your way to hell!
Jesus died for us so we don't perish in our sin, he rose again so he can be that dependable saviour we can trust and follow. Jesus calls you to trust in him. Trust in him as the one who died for you, trust in him as the one who lead you in this life trust in him as the one who will come to pick you in the future either at his coming or at the end of your life.

Jesus lead us by his spirit through the teaching of the holy Bible and when we follow him we will continue in his fellowship and produce the fruit of righteousness which is pleasing to God the father.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Sheds Tears When Reading Philipians 1. by Steep(m): 9:03pm On Aug 22, 2022
Yes, that is right. Tho there is suffering in the Christian life but the glory with the Lord is far greater.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m):
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knowingChrist Yes Bible called Jesus God.

We see this in John 1:1
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

If you read down the above chapter you will know that the Word there was referring to Jesus.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.




We also see this in Philippians 2:5
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:




A child/ son of God is God.
If God were to give birth to children, his children will be beings after his kind.


John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.


We are not children of God because we obey God. We are children of God because God fathered us. He gave birth to us. We came out of his loins.


John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but o[b]f God.[/b]


James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.


Children are beings after the kind of their parents. A son/child of God is God.

Note we are not gods but Gods. That was a translation error. In the original Hebrew text, what was translated gods in Psalm 82:6 is the Hebrew word Elohim. Which is the same word translated God in Genesis 1:1.


The word translated gods in John 10:34 is the Greek word Theo which is the same word translated God in John 1:1. In fact, in John 10:34, the word Theo was capitalized in the original Greek text.


What you need to ask yourself is this: " Did God father us?" , if yes, we are beings after his kind, we are Gods.
Psalm 82 vv 6 was speaking about Israelities Judges or rulers. Elohim is sometimes used to describe magistrates or Judges of israel and also a general word for deities.. Edited

The logic "if God begot us then we are Gods" is flawed because spiritual birth is not like physical birth, those born of God do not become Gods, this is a false teaching propagate by false teachers.

The Greek interpretation [b] does not distinguish between "a god and God".

When a man becomes born again, his Spirit is reborn in the image of God, however this does not make him God. The image means a resemblance of God not the exact.

One thing is the devil twist the word of God, when he said you shall be like God in the Garden of Eden he didn't specify in what way.

Christians share in the divine nature in things like his holiness, righteousness,kindness,love etc
This is the image of his son that is born in a saved person.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m): 8:24am On Aug 21, 2022
There teaching of humans being smaller gods is actually of pagan origin. It is a gnostic teaching not of christ. There is nowhere in the Bible that says if you are born again you are a God, this teaching is a lie from the devil
The word 'gods' used for the judges in Isreal is metaphoric rather than literal just like calling someone 'a goat' it does not mean that person is really a goat but is very stubborn as a goat. So many false teachers takes the bible out of context and forms demonic doctrine, the end of such doctrine is goddlessness and immorallities.


2 Timothy 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
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Brings back old memories.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f8fotz5GUo

Roman catholicism worships divine Feminine.

Watch this video above.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Serpent In Genesis - Part 1 by Steep(m):
Christianity is a huge stumbling block to their new world order hence they are trying to redefine twist it and severely dilute it.
The new religion that is coming infact it is already here is an imitation of Christianity.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Serpent In Genesis - Part 1 by Steep(m):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f8fotz5GUo


This video is about the religion of the divine Feminine.
It exposes the purpose of feminism, lgbtq and the new religion that is coming to replace Christianity
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Don't skip this video try and watch it, may the Lord bless you.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Serpent In Genesis - Part 1 by Steep(m): 1:25pm On Aug 19, 2022
knowingChrist:
REVISITING SOME GENERAL CHRISTIAN BELIEFS
What is the serpent in genesis?
This probably is the most controversial among Christian beliefs needing re-visitation. The belief in every denomination of Christianity posits that an entity called the devil was in heaven before the beginning and he was there when God formed man and gave man power, and dominion, and in a fit of rage and jealousy against man, the devil warred against God resulting in his defeat and fall to earth. It further posits that in a bid to mock God and thwart God’s plan, the devil snuck into the Garden of Eden, became or possessed the serpent, deceived Eve, and caused the Fall of Man.

This narrative, though well-crafted, and very satisfying, has lasted since the beginning of the modern Christian era (since the dawn of the Catholic Church) but it does not answer the numerous questions arising from this line of thought. It also contradicts many citations of the same event in other parts of the Bible, and hence needs to be revisited.

This belief (or very similar) like every common belief is not unique to Christianity, it’s held by every Abrahamic religion, and many other religions. Cultures like ancient Babylon, Canaanites and Turanian races worshiped the serpent as the liberator of mankind and giver of insights or wisdom, believing it to be a wise and powerful angel that liberated mankind from God.

Points of discussion:
Did the devil sneak into the Garden?
It’s a grave error to say the devil snuck into the Garden of Eden because this is highly improbable. Among the revelations made by prophet Ezekiel is that God ordained the devil and placed him in the Garden of Eden (Ezekiel 28:11-14).

11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, thus saith the Lord God; thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

The fact that God ordained the devil and placed him in the Garden of Eden nullifies the idea that the devil snuck into the Garden of Eden to disrupt God’s plan. Also, the war in heaven did not happen until after Christ Jesus was resurrected so the belief that the devil fell as a result of this war and infiltrated the Garden of Eden afterward is not biblical.

Is the serpent in the Garden of Eden an entity?
The general belief in all Abrahamic religions (Islam, Judaism, and Christianity) is that the serpent mentioned in Genesis chapter 3 is an entity. This belief cuts across almost every religion on earth and even atheists, and animists who claim not to believe in God have this information ingrained in their minds. This belief is not based on knowledge of the truth in Christ, hence its commonality even among irreligious persons.

Although the writer of Genesis did not specify that the serpent is an entity, people only think the serpent mentioned in Genesis is the entity who is called the devil largely due to influence from pre-existing beliefs, and secondly because they seek an external entity to blame for the fall of Adam and the subsequent death of all men through Adam.

Was the serpent a physical snake?
The main reason many people think the serpent is a physical snake is that they see the word “serpent” in the Bible, and their minds interpret this to them mentally. This satisfies them and influences how they interpret every other information about the biblical serpent; aligning everything to support the interpretation given by their minds.

The statement that initiates this belief is where the serpent was introduced in Genesis. Those who say the serpent is a physical snake support their claim with the verses where the serpent was mentioned, yet nothing can be established from this because the different Bible translations contradict each other on their position on what the serpent is. Here are examples of popular Bible translations that contradict each other on the subject.

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. -Genesis 3:1 KJV
Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made. - Genesis 3:1 ESV.

Both statements appear the same, but they contradict each other grammatically. The word “any” used to compare the serpent with “beast of the field” in the KJV Bible is used to compare a particular thing to the entirety of a group that it’s not a part of. The statement in the KJV Bible means the serpent is not a “beast of the field” and it’s wiser than all beasts of the field.

The phrase “any other” used to compare the serpent with “beast of the field” in the ESV Bible is used to compare a particular thing to other members of its group. The statement in the ESV Bible means the serpent is a beast of the field, and it’s wiser than other beasts of the field.

For example, it’s rather nonsensical to say Germany has a bigger economy than “any” European country because Germany itself is a European country, but it is very correct to say Germany has a bigger economy than “any other" European country. Also, it’s nonsensical to say Germany has a bigger economy than “any other” African country because Germany is not an African country, but it is very correct to say Germany has a bigger economy than “any” African country.

Having learned the difference in both translations, we’re certain that one of them is wrong as both cannot be right, yet we must not assume which of these translations is right. The only way to know the truth is through an uninfluenced and thorough search in the scriptures because the scriptures interpret themselves.

Another reason why many people think the serpent is a physical snake is because of what God said about it.

14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: (Genesis 3:14 KJV).

When many people see the verse above, their mind quickly pictures a snake and how it moves, and they conclude that the serpent is a physical snake because snakes crawl on their belly. Some even go as far as assuming that snakes did not crawl on their belly before God made these statements.

However, no part of the statements indicates that the serpent is a physical snake if studied in context obtainable within the scriptures and in the revelation of the scriptures by the apostles in the New Testament, and even when the statements are grammatically analyzed.

The first part of the statement reads “And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above “all” cattle, and above “every” beast of the field;” The words “all” and “every” used in the statements like the word “any” used at the beginning of the chapter have no restriction, they are used to express totality. They are used to compare a thing to the totality of a group. Therefore, this statement means the serpent is neither a cattle nor a beast of the field, and it’s cursed above all beasts of the field.

However, the same statement in the ESV Bible contradicts its earlier position about the serpent. It reads “The LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, cursed are you above “all” livestock and above “all” beasts of the field;”. Grammatical analysis of this statement shows that the ESV Bible holds that the serpent is neither a livestock nor a beast of the field because it uses the word “all” to compare it to livestock and beasts of the field.

The other part of the statement that convinces most people that the serpent is a physical snake is this: “upon thy belly shalt thou go, dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:” When they read this statement, their minds instantly picture physical snakes, and convinces them that snakes eat dust while crawling on the ground. This satisfies them and they become sure that it was a physical snake that spoke to Eve. It’s this assurance that spurs them to assume that maybe and just maybe, snakes did not crawl on the ground before the serpent was cursed.

However, we do not interpret scriptures this way. Scriptures are not interpreted with mental pictures or by observing animals, scriptures are only interpreted by proper study and careful observation of other scriptures, and understanding the context of the use of every word and statement.

Both statements are idiomatic or cultural expressions, they are not as they appear. The statement “upon thy belly shalt thou go” is an idiomatic expression used to state that someone or something will be defeated and disgraced openly. This is a common practice in the past. When a king defeats his arch enemy, he ties him up to his horse and drags him around in his domain to disgrace him openly in the same place he was exalted.

The statement “dust shalt thou eat” is an idiomatic or cultural expression used to state that someone or something will be completely overpowered and defeated very easily. Usually, when two arch-enemies fight and one is more powerful than the other, the powerful one beats up the other to a pulp and feeds him sand. This is a show of easy and absolute victory.

When speaking about such a fight, the first question is: was the loser fed with sand? If the answer is No, this means although such a person was defeated, they still put up a fight and still had some strength left in them after the fight, but if the answer is Yes, this means that the loser was heavily overpowered and beaten to a pulp so that they couldn’t resist while being fed sand.

Although proponents of this belief run off with a mental interpretation of the scripture, the Bible explains these idioms by finishing the statement with a colon (smiley, a punctuation mark used to direct attention to the matter (e.g. lists, explanation, or amplification) that follows. This means the above statements are explained or amplified by the statement that follows, and that statement is:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (Genesis 3:15)

Therefore, the statements “upon thy belly shalt thou go” and “Dust shalt thou eat” are idioms explained or amplified by the verse above, and it’s about a fierce enmity between two arch enemies; the woman and the serpent, and not about a physical snake crawling on its belly on the ground. The message stated here is that the serpent will be overpowered and defeated effortlessly and disgraced openly in its domain by the woman.

All mentions of the serpent in verses one through fifteen of the chapter, do not have any indications whatsoever that the serpent is a physical snake, especially when the statements are carefully interpreted to reveal the message. The belief can neither be grammatically nor scripturally established, it’s just a conclusion based on a limited understanding of grammar and the significance of every word used and statements made in the chapter.

Why do people think the serpent is the devil?
There’s hardly anyone on earth who does not think that the serpent mentioned in Genesis is the entity called the devil. The reason for this belief is because the Bible calls the devil “that old serpent who deceived the whole world”. This leads most people to think that the devil was the serpent in Genesis.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. ((Revelation 12:9).
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (Revelation 20:2).

Those who say the serpent is the devil usually conclude in their mind before they even look at the bible, so they align everything the bible says with their preconceived thoughts. However, the Bible did not explicitly state that the devil is the serpent that deceived Eve for the same reason it was not recorded anywhere at all that any entity caused the fall of Adam. People have only carried this belief from ancient traditions and religions, some of which have existed long before the truth was revealed in Christ.

Serpent is the general description for a kind or pattern of existence that’s based on the nature of the serpent. The “serpent” is not unique to the devil, anyone can be called a serpent, and this is why the adjective “old” is placed before “serpent” when addressing the devil. This is to signify that he’s the old one; the oldest of all serpents.

While most people try to enforce this belief as the message with just these two verses mentioned above, others have confused themselves even further by mixing up this belief with important revelations made in the New Testament. One such revelation about the serpent is seen in Colossians 2:15, which references the open defeat of the serpent earlier mentioned in Genesis.

15 and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. (Colossians 2:15)

The confusion here is that most people mistake the word “principalities” and “powers” for entities, so they assume that it was the devil that was defeated openly as mentioned in this part of the bible. However, the word “principality” means a state, office, or condition ruled by a prince, while the word power means the ability to act or produce an effect (or fruits as scripturally used). The victory here is over the state or condition and the ability to produce fruits of this state.

We see from here that the serpent is the principality of this world and it has the ability to produce fruits (of this world), it’s where the prince of this world operates and the power he uses. It’s a state, condition, office, or power, it’s not an entity. The devil is the prince of this world who operates in the principality and uses its power. The devil is called a serpent because he operates by the serpent, anyone who operates by the serpent is also a serpent. This is why the Pharisees and Sadducees were also called serpents because they operate by the serpent and use its power.

The open victory mentioned in this verse (Colossians 2:15) is the same victory that was testified in the beginning, it’s over the state or condition ruled by the prince of this world and the ability to produce fruits he wants. It’s saying that the woman will come into this world and not operate by the serpent and shall not produce any fruits by it.

The Bible further states it explicitly that the serpent is just a principality so that there should be no arguments or confusion but some still confuse it for the enemy. Jesus spoke about this when he gave us powers over the serpent.

19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. (Luke 10:19)

According to this, the serpent is not the enemy (the devil), yet it’s something that we power over. By comparing scripture with scripture, we compare this statement to the earlier one in Colossians 2:15, this establishes the fact that the serpent is just the principality and the power, and not the entity. It’s the state that the entity called the devil operates and the power he operates with. It’s this state that was openly disgraced where it’s the power to rule and whoever operates by it is as God in this world.

The devil is not the serpent that was mentioned in Genesis, the devil operates by the serpent, and this is why he’s called after it. Anyone who operates by the serpent is called after it, however, the devil is the oldest of them all who operates by the serpent, and hence he’s called the “old” serpent. The devil’s aim is to make everyone else walk after him, operate by the serpent, and harness its powers for selfish use.

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This is satanic!
This teaching is from demons. This is straight from the so called divine Feminine religion.
It seeks to redefine and reinterpret the bible.

The article
1. Try to separate the serpent from the devil
2. Try to not make the devil the enemy
3. It made the woman the one that overcame the serpent.
It was the seed of the woman that overcame, the seed is Jesus christ.
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Folks the antichrist movement is real, they are trying to redefine Christianity in other to be able to mold it into their one world religion.

Jesus called the pharisees a brood of serpent s because they belong to the devil.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Don't be decieved! The serpent is the devil not the mind not another thing.

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