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the effect of God rejection

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

From the beginning God made them male and female.

Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

When human beings think they are wiser than their creator because of their suppose elightenment, this is the result, confusion and madness.

Attempt to make men and women the same will surely lead to confusion, it is this ideology that is the mother of gay, lesbianism, transgender etc.
The idea that men and women are the same even when biology is clear but in their attempt to creat an utopian society where gender does not matter they end up in the bottomless pit.

A situation where a professor can't differentiate between a man and a woman in other not to go against the system.

These people hate those who preach the truth of the scripture calling them extremists and fundamentalists because of their lust and desires.

LienwaltAbel:
When "judgement" falls on them, they'll look for solutions. They aren't like you bro.

And the solution is going to be the antichrist, the bible has already foretold the direction the world is going.

The message of christ is an offense to those that are perishing.

As long as he has not broken any law he will be released.
No law can stop the gospel of Jesus christ you can arrest the preachers fight Christianity in different ways but one thing is sure the gospel will prevail.

AntiChristian:
I asked how it is just. You didn't answer. If you steal and you are punished yet your son has to inherit your sin, how is that justice from God?

In the bible there is sin as an act and sin as a nature. Sin as an act is not transferable but sin as a nature is transferable. Every Son or daughter bears the image of their parents right? Everyone bears the image of Adam.

Of what use is the punishment on Adam and Eve and all humans from Adam's sin? Does God want everyone to hate Adam? Yet, God punished them but didn't forgive them. This is not merciful. This is not loving! This is not fairness!
Today you Christians will claim forginess easily but God never granted Adam such!

wrong God is not punishing any one from Adam's sin. We simply inherited Adam's property. If your father gave you a land that is filled with thorns does that mean you are been punished for you fathers sin?

Kindly answer all the questions without skipping one else i will remind you.


You are fond of skipping questions intentionally. I asked when did your inheritance of sin stop?
Let's assume you have ten thousand generations from Adam, the sons of Adam inherit his sins. So sins are being transferred down the ladder till it gets to you. The sins will be so heavy! How is God just and fair like this? When will the inheritance of sins you don't know anything about stop?

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He is Al-Qudoos The Most Holy! You lied He accommodates sin. There are punishment for sins in Islam. And Allah forgives whoever repents sincerely going back to Him alone in worship without joining any partners with Him.

Allah is not holy, there is no evidence of this.
The fact that yahweh is Holy is clear to every one. The evidence is the price it takes for sin to be pardoned.

The biblical God punished Adam, Even and heavily but doesn't forgive them. He let their sins be inherited for him to later kill His only son! This is injustice at its peak!

Where did you read that God didn't forgive Adam and Eve Yahweh forgives sin but the price must be paid in full. Did Allah kill Mohammad? since Mohammead died or Allah does not have the power to prevent Mohammad death.

Since Jesus was born by Mary, how much sin did he inherit? Or there was an exemption to only him inheriting any sin? I remember his ancestors were fornicators, murderer, coveter, incest comitter, etc. Did he inherit those sins?

Mary is not a Man, In the bible the Man is the head not the woman.

You can come up with a theory of how he was sinless. But all man has sin and come short of the glory of God.

Jesus is the son of man as he called himself and was called many times.
And you didn't even bring any verse from your Yahweh!

The bible is read in context.
Jesus is the Son of man referred to the fact that he is human however sinless.

AntiChristian:
Steep you said God is just but Adam who is one man sinned and everyone in billions automatically inherits the sin.

1. How is God just by making sin hereditary like sickle cell?

Adam is the father of all mankind, it is just for God make it possible for Adam's children to inherits Adam's property. Will it be just If your father is prevented from passing on his legacy to you? No. However to retain that property is up to you. We all inherited Adam's property which is sin, it is just for us to know what we receive from Adam which is sin and death but to continue in it is totally our choice.

2. Did your dad inherit the sin of your grandpa? If no, when did the sin hereditary stop and why?

To some extent yes, but I rejected it through christ however Adam's position is far greater than my gran pa.

3. In Islam, Allah forgave Adam when he repented and prayed. Hence we don't believe in sin hereditary. No one carries other's burden.

Allah is not holy neither is he just, he can accommodate sin and does no justice to it.
Yahweh is not so. The fact that yahweh does not forgive without a corresponding justice be done show how much he hates sin.

Since you claim God is merciful, forgiving, loving etc why didn't He forgive Adam in a short cut process rather than letting everyone inherit sin and later send someone again to be killed for the sins He ought to have forgiven in a long cut process?

The long process shows how much he hates sin as a holy God. Nothing valuable comes cheaply, the redemption of man does not come cheap, the price must be paid.
Justice must be carried out.

You Muslims sometimes make mockery at Christian saying that Christian easily sin because they think that any time they beg for forgiveness they are easily forgiven. You think this way because in Islam being forgiven is as cheap as anything.

In Christianity we know the price sin took, we know forgiveness of sin took the blood of God's holy Son and hence we know how much God hates sin, which you don't know.
Hence since God is just and righteous it is just to make us realize how much he hates sin.

There is one and ONLY one

way to heaven and that is by

accepting Jesus Christ as your

personal Lord and Savior! God

loves us so much that He sent

His one and only Son to die on

the cross for our sins so that we

would be forgiven and now we

can look forward to spending

eternity with Jesus in heaven!

Jesus said, "I am the way, the

truth and the life. NO ONE

comes to the Father EXCEPT

THROUGH ME (John 14:6;

emphasis mine) you have

never asked Jesus Christ to

come into your life and be your

personal Lord and Savior, I

encourage you to pray this

prayer and do it tonight!

Remember, none of us are

promised tomorrow. Dear

God in heaven, I come to you in

the name of Jesus, 1

acknowledge to You that I am a

sinner, and am sorry for my

sins and the life that I have

lived I need your forgiveness. I

believe that your only begotten

Son Jesus Christ shed His

precious blood on the cruss at

Calvary and died for my sins

and I am now willing to turn

from my sin. You said in Your

Holy Word, Romans 10.9 that if

we confess the Lord our God

and believe in our hearts that

God raised Jesus from the

dead, we shall be saved. Right

now I conless Jesus as the

Lord of my soul. With my heart,

I believe that God raised Jesus.

from the dead. This very

moment I accept Jesus Christ

as my own personal Savior and

according to His Word right

now I am saved. Thank your

Jesus for your unlimited grace

which has saved me from my

sins I thank you Jesus that

your grace never leads to

license, but rather it always

leads to repentance. Therefore

Lord Jesus transform my life so

that may bring glory and honor

to you alone and not to myself

Thank you Jesus for dying for

me and giving me eternal life.

AMEN.

Yes religion matters, a religion is anything that guides us in life. Anything that forms what we believe to be true or false, it might be spiritual, physical etc
I laugh when some declare themselves as non religious, majority of the time what they mean is either they don't believe in the idea of God or they do not believe or take seriously the major world religion Islam and Christianity, the truth is that there is nobody without a religion.

Truth is never personal, the new age religion teaches that truth is relative and personal, meaning everyone can have there own personal truth or truth can change depending on the times. This is a lie, truth is truth and never changes, it is never relative neither is it personal. People who live their truth are living is deception and in ignorance.

The man who believe there is God and the man who believe there is no God, both can never be true.
Hence religion matters because truth matters, eternity matters, you don't invest in a business without finding out what type of business it is, it's is far worse in religion because it as to do with eternity.

Every religion has a message, this message can either be a lie or true.
The message of christianity called the gospel of Jesus christ.
The summary of the Christian message is that there is God who created all things including humans, this God is a holy, righteou, faithful loving and just God. He created all humans through one man Adam however this one man sinned and brought death upon all his descendants, all who sinned are would just be punished for their sin according to God's holiness which is his standard. This punishment is eternal death from God. However through history God has being pointing forward to a Time of redemption for mankind.
This redemption is Jesus christ himself who was born by a vigin lived a sinless life as the son of God paid took the judgment for our sin through his death, and after three days he rose again from the grave is a confirmation. He ascended into Heaven and will return back again to restore all things and judge mankind.

In Christianity truth is not relative, there is no personal truth there is just one truth who is Jesus himself. Sin is dangerous brings suffering on earth and eternal condemnation in eternity but the only solution is redemption which is Jesus.
Hence the problem is clear clear, Sin, and the solution is also clear faith in Jesus. There are no rituals, killing animals because Christ has already being killed and raised again, both the literate and the illiterate can understand the message, it is not gender biased nether race biased no segregate the rich and the poor.
"All have sinned" man or woman, blacks, or whites, rich or poor, educated or not educated and ll need Jesus.

How is Christianity different from all other religion.
Only Christianity preaches that the problem of mankind is sin problem and preaches the solution Jesus Christ.
In Christianity God is exalted as the holy, righteous, and loving God he is, Jesus by his death satisfied all of God's quality without rubbishing anyone. His death satisfied God's justice as well as open us to God's love unhindered.
A religion that does not need God' justice to be satisfied simply rubbishes it.

Some people would say why would God not forgive humans without Jesus dieing? The answer simply is God's justice can never be by passed it must be carried out.

However every human would need to make use of the freewill they have to either accept christ or not. Accept christ is accepting God's redemption not accepting christ is not accepting God's redemption, since God is a Go of liberty he will never force anyone to be save humans will have to choose.

Amen o Lord raise up workmen with heavenly madate go wherever you sent them.
Every Christian hands should be on the plough without looking back the days are evil and short.
Jesus is coming soon!!!

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Paul in 2 cor 11 described false apostles, they came to take advantage of the Corinthian Christians. One of the lessons to be learnt is every Christians must be on guard against false apostles and prophets their aim to take advantage of the ignorant for the selfish desires.

Some of the ways to know a false apostle or pastor are

1. Indulging in sexual immorallities

2 they are focus on materialism, waelity and riches is their gospel.

3. They are proud, raise themselves up.

4 arrogant and do not follow the teachings of the apostles and of christ.

5. They always have elevate wealthy, influential/ powerful people to gain wealth and access to power.

Just like Satan these servants of Satan pretends to be servants of christ, their overall works if for the flesh, boasting and pride of this life and worldly achievements.

Satan who is the enemy of God and all believers in Jesus christ transforms himself to an angel of light in other to decieve the spiritually ignorant person.
Light can mean truth, righteousness anything that is godly.
Satan hardly tells a direct lie, he shrouds it in truths but at the end it all lead to sin and rebellion.
Satanic movements, ideology, philosophy comes cloaked in justice, fairness, rightness, peace, love,equality etc but at the end it leads to sin and rebellion.
The Lgbq, transgender, and other woke ideology are a good example. They are preach love, acceptance, tolerance, equality, etc but they all have one purpose to lead to sin and rebellion.

These modern times have seen deception raising into a new high, these ideologies go against the gospel of christ that preaches God as the source of human salvation rather these ideologies preaches humans should be the source of morality, humans can build an utopian society without God.
This present word is going to suffer destruction just as the old world. The builders of the tower of babel wanted to build a tower to make a name for themselves to boast of their achievements as humans.

Humans has always being described they should aim to be like God, ( a state of independence from any God) the end is sin and death. Romans 6 vv 23.

Satan often transform himself as an angel of light that means as a giver of truth, love, Justice etc to
People who reject God has another source of light which is lucifer.

Jesus died so all who are far from God can repent and come back to him.

2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

If you are away from the only true God and you want to reconcile with him.

You should recognize you are a sinner guilty of death and worthy of it.

Believeand accept with your heart that Jesus died for you on the cross to pay the price of your sin and he rose on the third day as your hope and righteousness.

In addition, you could seek for a scripture based church to aid your growth.
If your have trusted in Jesus congrats you now have eternal life, continue in the faith of Jesus christ and grow strong in it.

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Oo this man, his songs are memorable, he has gone to eternity.

talk2hb1:
If That god you are talking about is that powerful and majestic, can't he just forgive everyone instead of his sons blood sacrifice.
Importantly, their is nowhere in the Bible where Jesus ever said he was sent to wash away sin.

God is powerful and majestic yes, but he is just and holy.
Because he is Holy he does not tolerate sin and MUST judge sin.
Saying God should forgive without Judging sin is like saying God should stop being holy.

talk2hb1:
I have been Thinking and Thinking, is Christian Gods Wicked by letting them kill his own son just because he wants human blood before he can forgive sins, or he is powerless and hungry for blood to forgive sins?

God is just and righteous, he will never allow sin go unpunished, Jesus only volunteered to take our place. Death is the penalty for sin, so Jesus chose to pay it, by doing so, God's righteousness and justice is satisfied and his love demonstrated.
Incase you don't know that life of every living creature is in the blood, so Jesus blood must be Shedd unto death to pay the price.

Many people only think of God as a God of love but his holiness, justice, righteousness, faithfulness is neglected.

God is both a forgiving God and a just God.
All of God's attribute was satisfied by Jesus sacrifice on the cross.

Elchappo:
The bolded depends on the version you are reading from... Check other translations pls...

see Hebrews 2 vv7.
Elohim in psalm 8 vv5 means angels, Hebrews 2 vv7.

Elchappo:
If we were created in God's own image, we are superior..

Not true man is not superior to angels.

Even Jesus was a little lower than the angels.

Psalms 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

Yeap

The answer is No. There were only two people in the bible who were a little lower than the angels They are Adam before his fall and Jesus during his earthly life.

Even Adam in his most perfect state was still a little lower than the angels. Many people have this unbiblical teaching that man is higher than the angels, it is not true. when John encounter an angel he almost worshipped. When John saw an angel he almost fell down to worship him but the angel stopped him.
Daniel had an anglic encounter and his strength left him, his beauty became filth.

Jesus the son of God during his earthly life was a little lower than the angels because Jesus was perfectly sinless. However After Jesus resurrection he became far above the angels, he became the Jesus the glorified man.
Jesus as God his infinitely superior to the angels but as a man his position changed from being a little lower than the angels to far above the angels.

The rest of humanity are far lower than angels infact humanity is almost equal to animals this is due to sin. However the new human race that God is building in christ will inherit christ glorified human nature and as a result will be far above the angels in fact they shall judge the angels i.e the fallen angels.




Psalms 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.




Hebrews 2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:

Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Allah is an idol,and eating Salah meat is like showing solidarity with an idol, Christians has to make it clear that Allah is not yahweh.

Equating Allah to yahweh is actually equating the devil with God, this is something he wants from the beginning.

The Christian God is Holy and must be separated from false gods.

Not paying tithe does not hinder a Christian from heaven.

This scripture is clear salvation is not by works but by grace.

All those who are saved go to meet with Jesus in heaven.

In christ the true relationship is not one of the flesh but one of the Spirit. Tribe ethnicity, gender, color does not define relationship in Christian.
Fleshly relationship matters nothing in christ.

A Christian and a Muslim does not have one Spirit, one faith, one father and one Lord.

A Christian is of the Spirit from above but a Muslim, atheists, or another non believers are of the flesh.

So it is wrong for a Christian to refer to others of another faith as brother except one that is of the same family, or tribe which in this case is only related by flesh.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,


4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Jesus never condemned titing.

Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Jesus said tithing, judgment (justice) and the love of God. Should have being done rather doing one and neglecting the other.

Jesus is coming soon.

The rapture is closer than ever before.
Only those washed in the lamb's blood will be raptured.
After rapture God would pour out his anger on this sinful and God hating world.

Hi

Moh247:
You want make Naija Pastor attack you as them attack Daddy Freeze

Op made a case in support of tithing.

Let us not also forget,
Thou shall not steal, thou shall not murder, thou shall not commit adultery etc are also part of the old testament.
So if we should do away with tithing because it was part of the old testament law, so we should do away with the the law against stealing and the rest.
This is the dilemma of those without sound biblical knowledge.

What does paul mean that christ abolished the law?
Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Note that the law of commandments included both the moral law and the ceremonial law which includes tithing.

One has to read the scriptures in context to understand it.

The context in which Paul is speaking is salvation.

We do not have to keep any law at all to be saved that is because God abolish the law as a means for justification through the death of Jesus, so we just have to believe in Jesus christ as our saviourand his death for the penalty of our sins.

However, when saved we live through the law of the Spirit which is faith and love.

Meaning that whatever we do after salvation should be motivated by faith and love.

The things we do are things that are driven by faith and love.
By this way we establish the law.
We do not go against the law by establish it.

In other words the law was removed for us to be saved and after we are saved we are govern by the law of the Spirit.
Now the law of the Spirit actually establishes the law through us.
What do I mean? Thou shall not murder we is fulfilled because we love our fellow men.
Thou shall not commit adultery is fulfilled because we of love for our neighbors.
We flee from fornication because we love God and acknowledge our bodies as the temple of his spirit in other Word because God's spirit lives in our body we flee from fornication.

What of tithing? Should we tithe, this law is subject to individual local church, a church might not have tithing as their doctrine, but however some church has it as their doctrine because tithing help to support the church, missionaries therefore tithing is good and out of love, so we tithe.
Our intention for giving matters more to God than our giving.
As Christians we should support the church of God. If tithing do it, if it is first fruit do it, if it is harvest, anniversary, sowing do it cheerfully.
People who grumble and murmur at when it comes to giving to the church do so out of evil heart.

One of the signs of a true Christian is the love of the church (fellow christian).

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Note "the brethren, brother" means fellow Christians.

1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

Many people are decieved that Barack Obama is the antichrist however,

The antichrist is not Barack Obama. In fact the bible tells us where the antichrist will come from.
Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
@ bolded who were the people that destroyed the temple this prophecy? They were romans.

Who is the coming prince? The antichrist.
The people of the antichrist are the romans meaning the antichrist is coming from Rome which is actually Europe.
If you understand this then you will understand why the world powers want Europe to be united.
The unity of Europe is why there is Ukraine war. It is to unite all European countries which is currently working.
Russia is just playing a script while America is providing the platform to create that unity that platform is NATO.
The pope (Roman catholic church) is actually the custodian of the Roman power.

It has already being planned the antichrist is the one to foster a world unity and peace on earth.

The antichrist is not Barack Obama. In fact the bible tells us where the antichrist will come from.
Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
@ bolded who were the people that destroyed the temple this prophecy? They were romans.

Who is the coming prince? The antichrist.
The people of the antichrist are the romans meaning the antichrist is coming from Rome which is actually Europe.
If you understand this then you will understand why the world powers want Europe to be united.
The unity of Europe is why there is Ukraine war. It is to unite all European countries which is currently working.
Russia is just playing a script while America is providing the platform to create that unity that platform is NATO.
The pope (Roman catholic church) is actually the custodian of the Roman power.

It has already being planned the antichrist is the one to foster a world unity and peace on earth.

The aim of this war was to unite European countries, Russian is only playing her roles while America provides the platform.

They are pushing for a one world government and Europe has a big role to Play.

Jesus is coming soon.

When they say peace and safety then sudden destruction shall come upon them.

The rapture is taking place anytime soon.

The powers that be think they are smart but are only playing according to what has being prophesied.

All this things shows the decay of the human nature.
The human heart craves after sin continuously.
But God is a holy and righteous God who does not tolerate sin not a tiny little sin.


Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

GREATIGBOMAN:
Satan is what makes us commit sin according to the Bible

Let god remove him first


According to this your logic even in heaven we can still sin?

Satan can only tempt you but cannot actually make you sin.
You sin because sin is in you.

You cannot get into heaven if you are not saved.

You a sinner cannot enter heaven because you already under the condemnation of God's Law.

Heaven is for those whose sins have being atoned for and who have being spiritually reborn.

People who enter heaven are those spiritually transformed through Jesus christ and so sin will be forever gone.

GREATIGBOMAN:
I don't understand.


He also threw Satan to earth when they had augments


Is it that god doesn't or can't kill an angel?

Satan was the one who made us commit the sin he killed his son for or sacrificed his son


Hence Satan is the real culprit and one who shot be killed



Unless god enjoys this game or shiit show


Or the white man totally brainwashed us all

Satan does not force you to commit sin, you commit sin because you are a sinner and the wages of sin is death. Even if Satan is removed you will still commit sin because you are a sinner.

Abortion is murder, they claim human right but deny babies their right to live.

Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;