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Kobojunkie:
Again, stop with the meaningless ramblings in what seems an attempt to mask that which is obvious.

The context is John 1 vs 1

Yes, Jesus is a God - In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God
Yes, Jesus is God - ....and the Word was God

What part of that can you really not see in your meaningless attempt to draw issues where there exists none? Why are you so insecure?

junk head, you are a coward, why running from questions

good, where did you see "a God" in John 1vv1?
This verse below aptly describes you.
A clamourous, simple woman that knows nothing.
Proverbs 9:13.

pappy2000:
so what do u suggest?. I should go back to that monster

Don't mind kobo junkie.

You cannot divorce your wife.
Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

10:12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

But, however if your wife decide on her own she wants to quit you are free in that case.

Kobojunkie:
From.this discuss it is abundantly clear you struggle with language comprehension issues.

Yes, Jesus is a God
Yes, Jesus is God

What part of that can you really not see in your meaningless attempt to draw issues where there exists none? Why are you so insecure?

you are the one that lacks comprehension, and cannot understand language.

you are a foolish woman, who is basking in stupidity thinking she is wise.

This verse below aptly describes you.

A clamourous, simple woman that knows nothing.

Proverbs 9:13 A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing.

Now you want to run from issues you raised?

I made a statement you came to counter it, now your cowardice is making you insecure, you can't project your insecurity on me.

Jesus is a God according to your junk head so how many gods do you have?

Kobojunkiee:
Translation, John 1 vs 1 is saying Jesus Christ is a God but Jesus Christ is not God, the Father, as He, Jesus Christ, is less than God the Father.

Keep deflecting,

Confused woman.

You said Jesus is a God again Jesus is God.

Masking your cluelessness with emoji's and your foolishness with senseless arguments.

Kobojunkie:
Again....Where exactly did I say that you said that?

Jesus Christ is notan angel, but He is God and also Son of God.

Kobojunkie:
Again....Where exactly did I say that you said that?

Jesus Christ is not an angel, but He is God and also Son of God.

see how you are confused.
Who said Jesus was an angel?
You mask your frustrations with senseless argument.

pappy2000:
i think this should be right i will try to make entreaties i hope she wont accept

You have to pray about it first. Pray that God should reveal the real problem, there may be something behind it.

pappy2000:
My brother i am in my early 40s still young only one child , i wish i could remarry and start a new life but with your submission i cant just imagine living with that hell of a woman

you can remarry.
Read my reply to you.
Since your wife is not interested anymore you are free.
That is what the Scriptures said.

Read 1 Corinthians 7. When an unbelieving spouse whether wife chooses to leave the marriage then the beliver is free in that case.



There are two ways you can be free to marry.
1. Either when the other spouse die or
2 when the other spouse quits.
Don't let people decieve you.

TenQ:
Lucifer is a fallen Angel aka Satan!

Therefore, Satan does not inhabit any particular human permanently (as a host) as demons do!

2Pet 2:10-11:
"But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord."

Are these dignitaries truly Demons or Fallen Angels?

Jud 1:9:
"Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke you."

Is the devil a demon?

what you don't know is that devil means daemons, they mean the same thing.

You have answered yourself. Lucifer is a fallen angel and he is also devil/demon.

The devil does not need to stay in a body permanently, I have showed you from the bible that the devil passed Judas iscariot.

Luke 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

Kobojunkiee:
Where exactly did I say that you said that?

Jesus Christ is not an angel, but He is God and also Son of God.

Go back to my comment you quoted and see how confused you are.

TenQ:
Men began to call on the name of the Lord NOT Seth! Not even his descendants! I'm sure you know that Seth had siblings!


There is no equivocal scriptural proof that fallen angels are demons.

I agree with you, but however remember that Enoch and Noah belong to the lineage of Seth and Seth was said to be the replacement of Abel. So it seems the children of Seth were brought up in the knowledge of God.

Jokes aside, once you cast out one or two demons from a person, you will conclude without any doubt that the entity you are dealing with cannot be remotely angels (fallen or not).

Fallen Angels should be wise isn't it? Demons are NOT wise!

Fallen Angels should not require to find their expression in a living Host: demons are tormented without a living host. Angels should be comfortable in their own skin

On this note, I rest my case!

Before I proceed, Answer this question
Is lucifer a fallen angel or a demon?

TenQ:
This would be a very weak argument. There was nothing special with Seth amongst the children of Adam.

Gen 5:4:
"And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:"

Nothing special with Seth sir!


You will note that Adam was created in the image of God before his fall. After Adams fall, he had an entirely new image that his sons could not be said to be in God's image but they were in Adams image.

Gen 5:3:
"And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:"

Finally, the Term Sons of God also Referred to Angels

Job 1:6:
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them."

Job 2:1: "
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD."


The sons of God here are certainly NOT sons of Adam in any way!

Yes there is something special about the family of Seth.

It is in this family men began to call on the name of the Lord.

Humans are also called sons of the most High

Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Don't also forget that Adam was also called the son of God.

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

However, this is not definitive 100% proof against the sons of God being probably fallen angels, but however there is scriptural proof that fallen angels are demons and the offspring of the sons of God were humans who attained extraordinary feat.

So I am not disproving the verses you presented, yes angels are called sons of God so there is some evidence the the sons of God might be angels also there is evidence that they might not be and I am leaning towards the evidence that they might not be angels.

Truvelisback:
So, which of these spirits possesses humanbeings? What are they called?

search my comment on these thread and get your answers.

TenQ:
Non of the people called sons of God gave birth to Nephillims except this one's.

You ignored that the women the slept with were NOT called daughters of God!

Sons of God versus Daughters of Men!

Daughters of men might refer to women that are not in the family of set.

Genesis 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Perhaps the sons of God were from the lineage of set while the daughters of men were women who were not from the lineage.

Truvelisback:
What are they then?

Demons are fallen angels.

TenQ:
How did the Nephillims evolve a GIANT DNA since they were NOT normal humans?
Moreover, demons seldom possess a person, they infect. You see, your understanding of demonisation is not deep.

Gen 6:2:
"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."
The sons of God aka fallen angels took wives for themselves amongst the daughters of men!

The consequence of this was what led to the birthing of Nephillims (Giants)

Gen 6:4:
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."


You will note that the language was not "the sons of men" going into "the daughters of men"!
It was the sons of God going into the daughters of men"!
Your argument fall flat here.

some certain people where called sons of God in the bible, the judges of Israel were called sons/children of the most High.

Read carefully Genesis 6

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Note the bolded that the giants were on earth when then sons of God married the daughters of men, also there were giants after those days.
Giant DNA is from Adam same way other DNA was in Adam.

Having done som research in the bible
I don't think the Sons of God are actually angels.

I may create a new post for it.

TenQ:
Gen 6:4:
"The Nephilim were in the land in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man, and they bore [children] to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown."

Who were the sons of God here?

It will be good if you can explain what Jude meant here

Jud 1:6:
"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness to the judgment of the great day."

The nephilims were in the land and afterwards not that the Nephillims were bore by the sons of God.
If the Sons of God were fallen angels ( demons) they could have possessed the bodies of human male to marry the women the children bore would still be human.

Or it is possible that the Sons of God are not angels.

There are evidence that seems to suggest that the sons of God in Genesis 6 are not angels but men.

Truvelisback:
Do u mean fallen angels or evil spirits(products of human and angels)?

they are not.

TenQ:
Why is a Liger neither a Lion or a Tiger BUT the Union of Human and Fallen Angel produces à HUMAN?

It's a simple logical question!

Nephilim are not a product of fallen Angel and human.

Kobojunkie:
example ke?

Read the wiki or Google to find them.

when was non metallic chain invented?
Non metallic chains is only of recent use.

Kobojunkie:
um.... the definition clearly explains that a chain can be made of even non-metallic materials, or did you not bother to read it at all.

when was non metallic chain invented?
Non metallic chains is only of recent use.

Kobojunkiee:
Translation, John 1 vs 1 is saying Jesus Christ is a God but Jesus Christ is not God, the Father, as He, Jesus Christ, is less than God the Father.

Where did I say Jesus was God the father?

Kobojunkie:
Did you know that all followers of Jesus Christ, who are made free by the Truth of God(Jesus Christ) will eventually become Sons of God as well - John 8 vs 31 - 35

What did John 1vv1 say?

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=117275608][/quote]according to that definition a chain is made up of what?

TenQ:
Nephillims are purely sons of Adam and Eve!?

The fallen angels were also descendants of Adam and Eve. This qualifies their offspring to be purely sons of Adam and Eve!?

I hope you know what a Liger is?
Is it a Tiger or a Lion?

If you cannot speak the truth on this, you are beyond Redemption!

of course they were Adam's children but however not a hybrid. A Liger is neither a tigr or a lion.

TenQ:
Nephillims were humanoid!

Okay!
Father=Fallen Angel
Mother=Human

Resulting DNA= Neither human NOR Angel.

Nephillims cannot be human.

They were even GIANTS!

you are basing your argument outside scripture.
There is no such thing as angel DNA in the bible.

another thing you should note is that the Nephillims were not said to be offspring of the sons of God.

Again nephilims are humans. They were called men of renown and were destroyed with the flood.

Janosky:
Bene ha Elohim = Sons of the God=Angels.
Check the Hebrew meaning of Bene ha Elohim.
Yahweh is always referenced as ha Elohim ( the God in the holy scriptures.
If you check Greek John 1:1, "the God" is there.
@ Deuteronomy 10:17/ Greek John 4:24, the God of gods.
"The God" is not Jesus Christ.)
No need for long grammar and jargon.

There are times when God is used in rereference to Jesus nature. John 1 vv 1.

Jokerman:
Fallen Angels.

Read the book of Enoch.

These fallen angels are also principalities in high places and under the earth.

Many of them now parade themselves as gods e.g Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Ra, Medussa, Hermes, Isis, Osiris, Amadioha, Queen of Heaven (Disguising as Mary) etc.

Fallen angels are demons.
The book of Enoch was not written by Enoch but by Jewish mystics.

Kobojunkiee:
What were the chains made of? Rope, Steel, Iron? What? How strong were the links in the chain?

what are chains made of?

Kobojunkiee:
His body had enhanced strength or he simply had a higher tolerance for pain, unlike most of us?

how was he able to brake chains?

Kobojunkiee:
Not mine since I didn't write the books of Enoch and the book called [i]demonologie [/i]as well as the many others that add various interpretations to that written in just a few lines of Genesis 6.

As a matter of fact, the book, demonologie, was written by none other than King James, the same one who translated and compiled what is the King James Bible.

You are deluded. Book of Enoch that was written as far back as 2 BCE .

Another possible answer to Gensis 6 is that the nephilim may not actually be the children of the fallen angels.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

This is because the Bible did not actually state they were the offspring but rather the Nephillims were present in those days and beyond.

However it is clear that the Nephillims were humans humans not Hybrid.