₦airaland Forum

safarigirl:
nobofy yad ever insulted Yorubas forgiving dark skin, and if we are talking about people with BEAUTIFUL DARK SKIN, then Yorubas can never be the first ethnic group on the list.


The ethnic group with beautiful dark skin in Nigeria can never be Yorubas, talk about the Jaba of Southern Kaduna, that is beautiful dark skin. Skin that looks just as good as the Senegalese, Yoruba people have beautiful dark brown skin at most, but the true black beauties, you have to come down to the North for better info, can't find such down south.


Anyway, Yoruba peopoe need to feel confident in their skin without bleaching, that is the point. Nobody has insulted Yoruba and their dark skins in Nigeria, they insult Yorubas for bleaching.

haywire07:
i wish everyone and anyone the best but I have mastered the craft of not giving anyone false hopes.

Mizwisdom:
No female child, sorry

xynerise:
I grew up in a society where any career you chose that doesn't begin with going to higher institution is discouraged. My parents made a mistake believing going to school is the ultimate ingredient for success and that made me ignored my talents, as a result of that; it slowed down my success pace.

A friend of mine discovered his son's boxing talent when they were playing and his 7 year old son gave him an outstanding punch . He never saw the negative side of it but he got inspired and enrolled his son in a boxing school. Today, the little boy is becoming something spectacular.

We often ignore the God given talents of our children and selfishly choose what we want for them. A teenager who doesn't know anything about Mathematics or English but she is a good dancer will be seen as a potential slayqueen or wayward person. The parents will ignore the fact that she is already gifted and her gift is not morally wrong.

Education is not everything, for me education is Plan B to success. The plan A is your talent or gift. That is why those with talents and gifts will always survive in a country where employment rate is poor especially Nigeria.

If I discover my son to be a good football player, I will make sure I get to the nearest football academy to enrol him as soon as possible.

Una weldone!

bknight:
Even though I like this lady, it doesn’t take away the fact that she isn’t as sophisticated as many people think she is.

She used absence to create a mystery about herself.

The more she talks, the more she demystifies herself

By the way, that was a crass response to a thought provoking issue.

You start a weighty topic like this only to start blocking those who do not support your line of thought?

VolvoS60:
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Oh, now you want me to direct my questions to the government. Now you accuse me of 'bringing semantics into this' (whatever that means). This is what people say when they don't have an argument.

I did not, as you put it, assume that you are "a muslim and a hijab advocate". I do not know your faith and I cannot make those assumptions from behind a keyboard. What I DO know is that you voiced your disapproval at ISI's controversial decision not to allow Islamic headgear for female pupils - a disapproval based on the grounds that as a federally funded institution, ISI has no right to abridge the constitutional rights of its female muslim students, right?

I then squared your hijab advocacy (an advocacy based on the constitutionally guaranteed rights of muslim females) against the unconstitutionality of the hisbah's actions in routinely confiscating and destroying people's legitimately acquired goods - in the same country! Strangely, you have no views to air on this gigantic contradiction - all of a sudden, hijab advocacy and sharia law are unrelated concepts - "apples and oranges" as you so eloquently put it.

I have said all I need to say as clearly and simply as I can. The truth MUST be said, no matter how inconvenient and uncomfortable it may be.

VolvoS60:
^^^^

I am mystified by your first statement and further comments about Mayflower school. My statements were very clear - Nigerian governments in years past DID take over private/missionary schools from their previous owners. This is a historical fact which a little research on your part will confirm - (indeed your comments about Mayflower actually bear me out). Several decades later these schools (after they had been run into the ground) were 'returned' to their owners. Which of course leads to the very legitimate question of WHY the schools were taken over in the first place - was it just to destroy them because the governments of the time were uneasy - for reasons yet undisclosed?

You also speak about taxpayer funded grants by the government to missionary schools. I do not understand your point. Grants are not equity and they do not normally confer any ownership or shareholder rights. The furthest you can go as a donor is to state how and what you wish your grant to be spent on. Or should any grant by the government to an entity be viewed as a precursor to annexation?

I didn't say you were in support of sharia law or sharia states accepting VAT from breweries. No. And though you may disagree, it is relevant topic and closely related to what we are discussing here. You said ISI is a federally funded school - implying that the agitation for Islamic headgear by some parents is justified on those grounds - after all, it is a federally funded school and school management has no right to prohibit Islamic headgear, right?. But in the same country, states operating sharia law routinely seize alcoholic drinks merchandise on the grounds that alcoholic drinks business is in conflict with said law. The problem though, is that the production, consumption and distribution of alcoholic drinks IS permitted under federal law. These brewers are taxed under federal law and their corporate income tax goes into paying for your federally funded institutions. Institutions like ISI.

Do you now see the contradiction, Madam? You can't pick and choose federalism when it suits you. You are either in or out.

princfred:
You are so lost in Islamic religion that you don't know that wearing mini skirt has no religious affiliation unlike Hijab. If that's their uniform and Hijab isnt that's it. Respect and tolerate that or bugger off.

VolvoS60:
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Ok then. We can agree to disagree.

As I said earlier, I am no expert on female dresswear. I have nothing more to contribute in that area.

It is instructive though, that you mention ISI's (debatable) status as a 'federally funded institution'. You also state very clearly that it is not a private school and neither is it a missionary school. Very interesting. No doubt you are aware that many years ago, the Nigerian federal government effectively seized several private/missionary schools from their owners and only recently returned the carcasses to the previous owners. There is strong speculation that the motives for that takeover by government were nothing short of sinister. Your comments lend credence to that view.

Again, back to the main issue.

My predictions for those on the receiving end? I can predict that those parents who wish for the hijab to become part of ISI's dresswear ARE going to win, the same way Asmau Firdaaus won her contest with the Nigerian Law School authorities. The fiery rhetoric on here is not going to stop that inevitable conclusion. And yet this takes place in the same country where so-called state religious police can routinely confiscate and destroy a businessman's legitimately acquired inventory of (federally taxed) alcoholic drinks without any legal repercussions so far. In the same country where not one Sharia state government has publicly volunteered to return any federal money from VAT collected on alcoholic drinks. But then, these things happen because the victims and those on the receiving end of this impunity allow them to happen.

Time will tell.

VolvoS60:
^^^


If anything, I would expect those with conservative values to approve of young women wearing tights (as undergarments of course, worn under appropriate outer wear ). After all, tights fully cover the nether parts of these young girls. Which is at the heart of this whole argument, isn't it?

Back to the main issue.

I am not aware of ISI rules explicitly approving or permitting micro minis, etc. for female pupils. Perhaps the school may not rigidly enforce the dress code (that may explain your comments about what pupils of the school actually do wear) but unless things have changed considerably, the rules ARE there. Whether they are strictly enforced is another argument entirely and one I cannot speak authoritatively about.

That is the point I was trying to make to the fellow I quoted (when he claimed provocative dressing is viewed as a fundamental right by ISI management).

dracosith:
Joseph Kony was a black man from Uganda and not a white man dumb head. Read about him and you will see a possessed man from a Christian home who worked with charms. That still doesn’t answer my question. My friend go and sleep

dracosith:
Respect everyone’s beliefs does not include posing insecurity to everyone else. The only reason other religion are against Muslims and there life styles are there extremists behavior and lifeless killings. Name a Christian killing in the name of his God and I will drop my argument.

#say_no_to_wearing_of_hijab_to_public_places
#keepyourreligioninyourhouseorthemosque

VolvoS60:
^^^
Madam,

I have not been to that place in years.

I do not know if the current school rules explicitly approve provocative dressing by female pupils. If you have the current position kindly update the rest of us.


P.S. I am no expert on female dresswear, but are tights regarded as provocative clothing? Don't millions of conservatively dressed women worldwide wear them as undergarments?

VolvoS60:
^^^
This is not accurate. I am not aware of the school permitting "micro mini gowns" for female students.

Be truthful please.

princfred:
Not worth it over a demonic semi-animal.

princfred:
Not worth it over a demonic semi-animal.

princfred:
What's the use of welcome by a semi-animal.