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deleo16:
Remote workwill take over A.I is coning

That's what people don't know.

RoRoo:
If it looks like fraud then it sure could be fraud.
Aside their myopic view of people with laptops, you and I know they aren’t the problem only.
Many guys with laptop also engage in fraudulent activities in the cover up they are graphic artist or computer geek where we know it isn’t it.
Especially in this part of the world, what I am against is seeing a complete stranger and calling them fraudsters because of how they look or what they carry, when you have no background info about them. But when you have the background about them then you're 70% going to be right
But as for people I have stayed with I can randomly select the ones who are yahoo guys the moment I see them with a laptop.
So in conclusion, in this part of the world, if you say 10 boys with laptop are into internet fraud, then chances you’re 5/10 right as much as you have little background info about them. So there is no really argument to defend the act of suspecting a laptop carrier as a yahoo guy because he likely could be.
Note: I am in no way saying anyone has to persecuted on basis he/she carries a laptop, I am only saying it is understandable for someone carrying to be more of a suspect of internet fraud as it most time a 50/50 chance

What kind of background info? Going to parties, dreadlocks, etc?

If Nigieria is ready to fight cybercrime, they will monitor the cyberspace. Wrongfully profiling someone because of his or her lifestyle is wrong!

emecheboy2:
Next time call the person closer, open the IDE you are using to code and show the person. If you have a project, open the frontend and backend and also show the person previous jobs. It will go a long way to clear their doubt. Am telling you from experience.

When they just murmur it among themselves without having the courage to talk to you in person?

Nice one

seanwilliam:
A yahoo boy rarely use laptop .. and most of y’all are disguising with programming and graphics bullsht.God no your address

Your case is like that of a drug lord and chemistry lab. To a drug lord, the only thing that can be done in a chemistry lab is to cook hard drugs, and to you, the only way to make money online is fraud.

A drug lord doesn't know that it's easier and more financially rewarding to manufacture paracetamol, metronidazole, and other normal dugs used by many people every day than to cook hard drugs. I pity you guys — if only you know that you can easily make 7-8digits per month (many programmers are making such) legitimately if you put your God-given talents to good use. God help you.

JIREN01:
Guy!!!!

Bro, you dey fear mad people? Can't you recognize madness when you see it?

Umar1968:
You knew who you're, you also knew what you do I don't think you owe anyone an explanation!

It's always painful seeing one's reputation dragged in the mud. I'm sure you won't like to be tagged an armed robber in your community. It doesn't take much for a lot people to believe it, and don't joke with the power stupid people in large numbers

lasmile:
Minds has been stereotyped that way.


My own question is “why are young boys of these days thinking yahoo is the only way to blow financially?

They don’t want to acquire skills , go into trading or even do any job to earn salary.

And when they have successfully wasted their twenties pursuing this yet to come wealth and are realizing the truth even though they won’t admit at it. They find it so difficult to bend.

They see themselves so big to descend to learn a trade or skill.

Where's Seun in all these you listed? Where's Linda Ikeji there?

My point is, the world has changed. The trade is now online — it's called e-commerce, minimportation, and dropshipping.

Some of the jobs can now be done from home without going to the office because offices are now in the cloud and can be accessed from anywhere!

The best-selling skills in today's world are the ones that can allow you to work from anywhere you are, including your home. Examples are programming, copywriting, graphic designing, cloud computing, data analysis, financial market analysis and trading — quant traders are paid up to $1m per annum.

My point is this, don't look at the world with a 19th-century lens in the 21st century digitalized economy.

While there are many fraudsters, don't conclude that anyone not living a 19th or 20th century lifestyle (commuting to work every day) is a fraudster.

Let me ask you a question: Your great grandfather and possibly your grand father were probably farmers. When your dad (or grandfather) left farming and went to the city in search of white collar jobs, did your great grandfather call him a criminal for realizing the industrial revolution and leaving for the city? I'm sure that with the sudden upsurge in rural-urban migration then, there must have been an increase in highway robbery! But did our great grandfathers tag our dads and grandads highway robbers for leaving to go and work in the cities simply because of the increase in highway robbery?

A similar thing is happening now — we're in a digital revolution. A lot of things can now be done online — whether it's trading or working for a company. A trader can have his shop online, and make sales online. Similarly, a corporate worker can access his company's office online. Even self employed professionals like myself have our offices online and can access them from anywhere we are.

If our great grandfathers didn't tag our fathers and grandfathers highway robbers because of the increase in highway robbery then, tagging anyone who works online from home using laptops and other digital gadgets fraudsters because of the high rate of online fraud simply shows that our great grandfathers were smarter than us! At least, they could tell that the world had changed from what they were used to.

We are witnessing a digital revolution. Smart people are learning the skills needed in today's world and are adapting to the digitalized 21st century economy.

Maybe you consider changing your perspectives. Cheers!

SatanBoss:
relax, the average nigerian in those sites will scam u at the slightest opportunity

It's a pity how you think. What you don't even know how it works. If a company looking for a professional to hire for a job hires you, and you mess up the work, you don't get paid. But if you are good at what you do and always deliver in time, you will rated highly and more companies will hire you. It's that simple. Some of us have Top-Rated-Plus badges to our names!

Unik3030:
don't b an idiot,how many youths are working in that tech company?
so all d youths going about with unexplainable wealth are working for different tech company?
u people will want to use all tools of blackmail to silence someone saying d truth....your own tool of blackmail here is poverty.

I have seen what u don't know n I can tell u for free that majority of work from home rubbish are yahoo boys, majority of those shouting Bitcoin n rubbish exchange are running yahoo under,even your influencers, artists,actors n d likes.

80% of wealth in Nigeria are gotten from illegal sources n majority of those young and rich are into shitty things.get exposed n don't b deceived by rubbish

Go to Freelancer.com, Guru, Fiverr, Upwork, PPH, etc and see many Nigerians doing well for themselves working from home or anywhere they feel like. Go to Amazon publishing and see people making 8digits per month. The world has changed. Earning a living is no longer about 9-5!

From my observation, only the innocent have the courage to work from home. They criminals have normal day job and do their crime with their phones.

ladyF:
A lot of Nigerians have a very myopic reasoning.

You will get a point where you would get tired of explaining. Only at this point will you know peace.

It’s LadyF again

I completely agree with you.

chinavs9ja:
Good evening, I wrote this because I am just tired to keep explaining the kind of work laptop does to people around.

Why is it that people always think negatively about those using Laptop? I am a programmer that work remotely from home but whenever people come around the first thing they ask is "Am I also into yahoo?" I will have to sit them down to start explaining what programming job entails.

Honestly, it is really frustrating! Please why did people usually have this negative thought to those innocent programmers doing their legit job?

The same thing we're discussing on Twitter. That's the mentality of many Nigerians, which is horrible in this 21st century digitalized world where offices are in the cloud and one can work from anywhere — home, beach, and even in the train.

The irony of the whole thing, from my observation, is that the fraudsters don't work from home — many of them don't have that courage. They have a normal day work —they're your usual civil servants, shop owners, car agents, real estate agents, electricians, painters, etc. But they do whatever they do with their phones.

Now, as an innocent programmer, copywriter, forex trader, etc. working remotely from your home, they can't see any other thing that can be done online apart from fraud. Even when you show them what you do, they just can't believe it because their mind is wired for fraud — more like a drug dealer seeing a chemistry lab, all he can think of is how much Meth he can cook in there.

We got here because of the publicity you guys are giving to crime and stupidity. From bloggers to musicians to individuals that want to attach Yahoo to your threads to gain attention. Just like the name, "Tinubu", the word "Yahoo" is attached to every incident just to gain attention. Where did you even get your 80% statistics from? After you say police are harassing Nigerian youths, but when you make it seem like all Nigerian youths are criminals, why won't they treat you guys as criminals?


Listen to the music you guys dance to: ... maga bill am, EFCc japaa, or something like that.

With the undue publicity you guys give to a shameful crime, Nigerian have effectively forced it down the psych of not just the youths but even under teenagers and under 10s! You guys have made a shameful crime a culture!

Why don't we publicize something good? Why don't we write about great men and women who worked hard to achieve success and what they did to achieve success so as to motivate the youths? Why don't we publicize new ways of doing things, new opportunities, etc?

What I don't understand about these useless beings is that the skills, time, and energy they spend in scamming people can fetch them 7-8 digits per month working legitimately. So, why get stupid?

adanny01:
Action carried out in abstract can be zero but action carried out in reality is no action, that means the action never happened or not going to happen. That is the implication not disappearance of oranges like you insinuate.

I have 10 oranges and gave out zero oranges.

That is 10 x 0=0

In reality the zero means the giving out never happened so you still have the 10 oranges. That means its impossible to give out nothing in reality

In reality, we are not talking about value we are talking about real objects and actions. The value you are talking about is still abstract.

What is the value of zero in reality, nothing. What is the value of nothing in reality, it is still nothing. Nothing in the real sense of it is non existent.

Simply put, zero is an abstract value for nothing in reality.

You obviously didn't understand my post. Go back and read it again, but slowly this time so that you grab it.

I was making a case that the product of multiplication is zero because the action never happened (zero action), and not that the non-zero element disappeared. The entire case was that the non-zero element (the 10 oranges, the 10 persons, the surgeon and his skills, or the fund manager's cash) is still very much present and never at any point ceased to exist! You misunderstood my post. Go and read it again.


What I'm countering in your post is saying that zero is abstract. Zero means the absence/lack of value. The absence of something doesn't make it abstract.

Don't cease to exist = never disappeared.

Akamariner:
Some atewo foe dis niqqa.

I don't understand.

ibuildstuff:
We are basically saying the same thing.

Losing nothing means that his 100 oranges are still intact.

Having done nothing shows that the product of his multiplication action was nothing.

ibuildstuff:
Nope, u did not loose anything, u still have ur 100, n u loose nothing.
So that nothing u loose is regarded as the zero.

Not really.

It's that nothing (0) he does that explains the 0! His 100 oranges are still intact waiting for the right time to be used!

adanny01:
I see no difference between you and I.

The second bolded means you can't give 10 oranges to noone in reality

That's what gives it the zero value. Action carried out is 0. But the oranges don't cease to exist


In the case of the surgeon, the fact that the action didn't happen gives that action a zero value (no action).

adanny01:
Sure

If I must reply,

3 x 7 means 3 times 7 or 3 by 7

This means we add 3 up to 7times

3+3+3+3+3+3+3=21

This is why the primary school multiplication table is arranged separately for each number

2x1=2 | 2
2x2=4 | 2+2
2x3=6 | 2+2+2
2x4=8 | 2+2+2+2

The question is how will you write

2x0 | ?

You can write

0x2 | 0+0

It is easier to explain 0x2 than 2x0

0x2 is twice of nothing
2x0 is nothing of two things

Take 2 real oranges in your hands for instance, in what scenario will you multiply them so that they turn to zero or nothing? I guess you can't except by magic.

That means the concept of zero or nothing is purely a figment of imagination and purely abstract.

It is not. See this explanation:

Back to your question, I will attempt to explain it using Einstein's general relativity theory. "Everything is relative to something else." In the case of anything multiplied by zero giving a product of zero, that "zero" product is relative to the action and not the entities multiplied — the product being zero doesn't mean that the non-zero entity vanished.

Let me explain with your oranges example:
First scenario (10x0 = 0): You have 10 oranges to give out. The action here is "to give out 10 oranges." To complete this action, there must be 10 oranges to give out and someone or something to give them to. In this case, you have the 10 oranges, but there's nobody/nothing to give the oranges. Relative to the intended action — giving out 10 oranges — you have given out zero oranges. However, it does not mean that the entity (10 oranges) vanished. In other words, the fact that the second entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the first entity (10 oranges) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Present) x Entity2(Absent) = Action(Absent)

Second scenario (0x10 = 0): You want to give out oranges to 10 persons. The action is "to give out oranges to 10 persons." To complete the action, you must have both entities — the oranges to give out and the 10 persons you will give the oranges. But you have no (zero) oranges, so the action cannot be carried out. Relative to the action — giving out oranges — you have done nothing (zero oranges given out). However, this doesn't mean that the 10 persons vanished because there were no oranges. In other words, the fact that the other entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the second entity (10 persons) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Absent) x Entity2(Present) = Action(Absent)


The point I'm making is that, using general relativity theory, the product of any multiplication with zero relative to the action and not the entities in the multiplication. The absence of any of the entities means that the action cannot be carried out, but the other entities don't cease to exit.

So, even in cases of 10x2x0 = 0, you can extend this logic to explain it.

An example of everyday application of this can be seen in anything. If there's no patient to be operated, the surgeon carries out no surgery, but it doesn't mean that the doctor or his surgical skills have vanished.
If a fund manager sees no good opportunity to invest in, no investment happens, but that doesn't mean that the fund manager or the cash has vanished. This is why cash is a component of any portfolio — it stays there waiting for the right opportunity to go make you more money.

Gabbriell:
Multiplication is basic maths (primary level). It's everybody's interest. This kind of disruptive thinking without basic maths is nothing but ignorance.

I understand your point sha and what you said about disruptive thinking is true.

I REST MY CASE

Sure, multiplication is basic math, but that's not Op main question. The disruptive questions there is: Does the non-zero element in the multiplication cease to exist simply because it is multiplied by zero?

10 oranges x 0, does the 0 make the 10 oranges to disappear for the product to be 0?

Stubborn82:
You see, genius are not normal people, the irony is that normal people can not tell if someone is genius, in fact normal people see genius as stupid people.

The question of the op might sound stupid to ordinary mind, but it is a question that can spark unexpected idea.

This is how Isaac Newton come up with the law of motion, haven't you read about the Newton law of motion?

Newton was questioning the fall of an apple and felt why must the apple fall, why not stay or hung on the air, with this question in the mind of a man like newton, what happens next.......boom......aha! The law of motion was born, which has help to improve scientific research and technological development.

You are right, but in Africa, disruptive questions are tagged crazy!

BobFischer:
Why is any any number multiply by zero is equal to zero?

10 x 0 = 0
100 x 0 = 0
1000 x 0 = 0

If i have 100 oranges on a table and i multiply it by zero. Why do i suddenly have zero?

100 oranges X 0 = 0
1000 pears X 0 = 0


front page please
mathematicians in the house please gather.

It's a disruptive question like this that led Einstein to the Relativity Theory. While abstract thinking is a sign of intelligence, it is seen as a taboo in this part of the world (Africa and Nigieria in particular) — they will soon call you mad, crazy, etc.

You may have to tone it down if you're living in this part of the world. "The only thing an African man thinks of is how to put money in his pocket and get a woman to produce children. Thoughts like creating solutions to problems in the world and how to build a better society is beyond his mental capacity." I have come accept this painful reality!

Back to your question, I will attempt to explain it using Einstein's general relativity theory. "Everything is relative to something else." In the case of anything multiplied by zero giving a product of zero, that "zero" product is relative to the action and not the entities multiplied — the product being zero doesn't mean that the non-zero entity vanished.

Let me explain with your oranges example:

First scenario (10x0 = 0): You have 10 oranges to give out. The action here is "to give out 10 oranges." To complete this action, there must be 10 oranges to give out and someone or something to give them to. In this case, you have the 10 oranges, but there's nobody/nothing to give the oranges. Relative to the intended action — giving out 10 oranges — you have given out zero oranges. However, it does not mean that the entity (10 oranges) vanished. In other words, the fact that the second entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the first entity (10 oranges) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Present) x Entity2(Absent) = Action(Absent)


Second scenario (0x10 = 0): You want to give out oranges to 10 persons. The action is "to give out oranges to 10 persons." To complete the action, you must have both entities — the oranges to give out and the 10 persons you will give the oranges. But you have no (zero) oranges, so the action cannot be carried out. Relative to the action — giving out oranges — you have done nothing (zero oranges given out). However, this doesn't mean that the 10 persons vanished because there were no oranges. In other words, the fact that the other entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the second entity (10 persons) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Absent) x Entity2(Present) = Action(Absent)



The point I'm making is that, using general relativity theory, the product of any multiplication with zero relative to the action and not the entities in the multiplication. The absence of any of the entities means that the action cannot be carried out, but the other entities don't cease to exit.

So, even in cases of 10x2x0 = 0, you can extend this logic to explain it.


An example of everyday application of this can be seen in anything. If there's no patient to be operated, the surgeon carries out no surgery (zero action), but it doesn't mean that the doctor or his surgical skills have vanished.

If a fund manager sees no good opportunity to invest in, no investment happens (zero action), but that doesn't mean that the fund manager or the cash has vanished. This is why cash is a component of any portfolio — it stays there waiting for the right opportunity to go make you more money.

Sequence10:
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After going to many hospital still same thing.. Hospital have exhausted me financially.. Now I'm always thinking about finance + the mental stress now imagine both what am passing through.. The worst part of it is that my family members and friends never understand what am going through.. Any time I complain my mom will start shouting at me that I always like complaining and it hurts me so bad�...

Rip for the guy that lost his life...I understand because I'm witnessing it..
Cognitive deficits that's what I'm suffering from...
Don't underestimate anyone for complaining.. Try and help them out because it has not been easy with them that's why they're complaining it to you...
What they need is advice and consoling thanks

I'm sorry for what you are passing through. My only advice is to ignore everyone and leave the rat race for them. Rather than follow their rules, reinvent yourself, create your own rules, and follow them. Find what you're passionate about and go for it.

This is my 14th year with chronic insomnia and all the associated complications — headaches (migraine), poor concentration, slow reaction time, etc. But we're kicking and moving ahead.

The only person who can strengthen you is you.

NextD18:
"The noise got too loud, but now the noise can stop"

That statement was deep coming from him. To even think he battled depression for 7 years while carrying out his daily activities makes me believe depression got no particular symptom to get people's attention to you.

You can look and appear like the happiest person alive in the public, social media or gathering, whereas you are mentally struggling and battling a lot.

You can battle it for 10 years without even knowing you are battling depression because you'll have to nurture your system on how to cope and endure overthinking, unrest and no peace of mind. All these will be endured without speaking to anyone because you've gotten use to it and feel it's normal until it hits you to the point you can't endure anymore which normally leads to suicidal thoughts.

Please learn to speak up when you start loosing your sanity and peace of mind.

Speak to who? Nigerians are too frustrated to listen to anyone and think of how to help. Most people are only interested in themselves and when they look your direction, they're only trying to see how they measure up and weaknesses to exploit.

The only right person to talk to is a qualified clinical psychologist.

Sharing your problems with a fellow Nigerian will worsen your situation and even trigger depression. I advocate self sufficiency — measuring yourself by your own standard and not what others think. You're enough!

RIP Dele

Personality issues compounded by psychological effects of menopause. Take it easy with her.

Expect it to fall lower as holiday makers start going back.

Golan007:
The first case has not been decided in court, he was only given administrative bail, besides there's no evidence he was paraded.

When you can see the pictures online. Administrative bail without charging him to court?

Then, what about Zlatan?

solmusdesigns:
Ofcoarse I don't have facts on the 4G guy , or Zlatan's so I really can't comment.. however if they were paraded with witness, or evidence and not even exhibit then it's violation of their right and can sue EFCC

Twitter and Google can help you.

We're they paraded? Yes!

Were found innocent and not charged to court? Yes!

Why do things upside down? I blame our lawyers for this!

If our lawyers are smart, they would take these countless cases pro Bono and make EFCC pay for damages. Many of these innocent fellows wrongly paraded can accept 50/50 split.

By the time EFCC spend most of their yearly budget paying damages, they will learn to do things properly!

solmusdesigns:
Yes white they enter street make arrest... Even Dubai police bursted Hushpuppi in his house

Mr common sense

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That's after months of gathering evidence. Here, they arrest and parade (which is wrong) before gathering evidence. I blame NBA for this too. If our lawyers make them spend most of their yearly budget in settling damages, they will start doing the right thing!

Go and reply my comment oga!

RexTramadol1:
He’s incorrect



A suspect should have a mugshot first, it’s everywhere in the world........ but before security officials do that, they must have had some exhibits to show for its need.

That's a lie. He is 100% correct. When you suspect a crime, you investigate first. It's only when you have a tangible evidence that can prove in the court that you parade!

Here, the EFCC parade before investigation. That's is what Dele Momodu is questioning!

solmusdesigns:
Lol

And you think upon arrest files on their laptops won't be searched

That's the point. They parade before investigation. Go to Twitter and read the story of @rotimi_4G

Was Zlatan not paraded before investigation? His freedom was public because he's a celebrity. Many innocent ordinary Nigerians have their image tarnished forever!