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OAM4J:
omG! 

Funny but true! I didnt know you have this high sense of humor judging from your other posts.

anyway it is called eba not iba. 

Thanks for your corrections, all is taken on board! 

But I must say, every tribe has their own way of pronouncing and spelling things.  In my tribe, its spelt IBA and that's how I had known, pronounced and spelt it.  And, who care! Isn't what matters the meaning it conveys

Anyway, let's get to the Yummy side of this story.

You see, it doesn't really worth it being narrow minded.  Having a tunnel view about  someone you don't really know or criticising things you don't really understand, puts one in a totally different category in the intelligence department.

Do I blame anyone?  No! Reason being that most people on here, just follow the flock and don't really think logically. This is because of our culture, Nigerians are emotional people and it's difficult for us to control our emotions when it matters as result, we go overboard,  For example, when we are talking to friends, colleagues even our enemies in the public, we are usually louder than a bomb.  We shout and shout until we shout everyone down, just to make our point.   

Also, if there's an argument in the public where one mistakenly curses one's mother, that's enough to start a '3rd World war' without considering that, it's simply just a curse therefore, won't cause any bloody skin pain so why abuse and fight over a trivial thing as that, if not for our fragile emotions and, it's all evidenced here on N/L. It only takes one person to misunderstand a member's view to initiate an abuse/fight on here. Abi, I lie?    You can now see what I mean, these are some of our bad habits and I can't see us changing soon because, it's cultural and therefore, entrenched. 

However, your negative assumptions of me, it's ok and its your prerogative but I must remind you, in every thing you do remember, there's always two sides to every story and in this case, you had only read one until now.  

Yes, theblessed has a very good sense of humour and you mustn't forget that!

Good luck with your analysis of people, you don't really know!

oyb:
the divas are entertainers

like it or not, in the showbiz industry, you are expected to be in shape

if they can't do that , they should feel free to opt for less demanding careers

cicero:
No matter how much anyone adores ojukwu as a hero, I insist the man did a severe harm to Nigeria in general and the igbos in particular.
As an Igbo person myself, I do not condone the massacre of the igbos in the north at the time and in the same way I cannot praise a man for bringing war to his house, the war was fought on igbo soil while the yorubas and hausas were going about their businesses.

Before the wars, igbos were leading in the military, academically, in business and in so many other areas. We were doing so good that at the time we had built so many houses in Port Harcourt, and in igbo land there was peace, development, progress and an almost crime free society.

Now what did we achieve from the war? Absolutely nothing but backwardness.  We have more of our youths doing 'buying and selling' in Nigeria while many who manage to go school come out with nothing. Before the war we had scientists, academics and brains that could have served as role models, today our role models are scammers, fraudsters, people with unexplainable wealth and traditional rulers who are more evil and hypocritical than some demons

It baffles me how a lot of people on this forum celebrate one mans faux pas and attack anyone that tells the truth about ojukwu.


What we need to read about ojukwu is not his mamoir but an appology to the igbo race for leading us into a war we were not prepared for.

Lies, lies and more lies!!

You see, it's your kind that betrayed us during the war - the ''Ikegbunas''.  

Everyone knows Ojukwu opened our eyes and we saw and have been seeing ever since, haven't we If the Hausas and Yorubas have not been wicked, devilish in their ways and hell bent on their Hatred of the Igbos, why up till now (40yrs+ after the war) are they continuously marginalising the Igbos.  Isn't it time they treat Nigeria as one by 'Action' and not by words.

You claimed, the war was not fought on their soil and I assume the impact on them (as they managed to go about their businesses) were lesser compared to the Igbos, during that war.  

In fact, they never lost anything apart from few soldiers which often happens at wars.  So, why are they still hell bent on seeing the Igbos perish if not for their own wickedness of heart which Ojukwu saw and challenged in the first place. And, may I ask since that war, who is holding power in this country and who is in charge of the oil rigs? Is it not them, taking their turns in destroying our country?  What have they achieved for Nigeria ever since, if not lining their own pockets and creating the chaos we have in this country today - armed robbers here, kidnappers there and many Nigerians in diaspora seeking greener pastures? Maybe, you'd attribute this to Ojukwu as well, won't you?

Therefore, in your views, if the Igbos had not done well  considering all the structural inequalities put in place to stop us - I mean, all sorts of obstacles, hindrances, restrictions and limitations stack up against ndi Igbo that we have to manoeuvre to get what we need, I wonder.

And may I ask, how better have they themselves done despite how good they've always had it aside, stealing our money? The oil money is in their hands yet, a rich country like Nigeria is looking like Sudan and Ethiopia put together.  Shame on you for castigating ndi Igbo!!!

God bless Ikemba Emeka Ojukwu and, God bless Ndi Igbo!!

fellis:
Thank you very much for this. I am so grateful. . . . .You have no idea.

Maybe, from your perspective I have no idea but if you look deeper enough, you'd realise I know what I'm talking about - things men do that are destroying our society.  It has been demonstrated in many ways in our society, both in real life and in films and even as I write this where a Sugar Daddy is messing with young women only to find his own daughters being messed up too, by his own best mates or other men. 

Now tell me, where are the 'Virgins' you are searching for They've all gone, haven't they? So, stop looking.  For all I know, men can't eat their cakes and have it. Something has to give, and that's exactly what you are searching for - a Virgin. You can't have that now because, some bad guys have stolen it from you.  Maybe, there are pockets of them somewhere but I say, keep searching you might be lucky!!!

coolestboy:
I wonder y it has been so difficult 2 come across a virgin,anyway,no matter how scanty they are,i believe 'my wife must be a VIRGIN'

Lolladey:
different strokes for different folks. there are people who can tolerate anything including infidelity from their spouse while some cant.
i know of a man whose gfriend got pregnant for another man and he knew the pregananvy wasnt his cos he had never slept with her before though they had been going out for a while. He did not leave the woman and they eventually got married.
it depends on if the wife can tolerate him, cos some wives do not mind their husbands engaging in affairs outside as long as the man comes back home to them.

Excuse me, what am I hearing here?

To those of you who were deprived of husbands in their previous lives, may I say good luck with your golden envious lives! Yeah, as long as husband comes home with a scrotum full of HiV, these women sure would know they're truly, married.  But, what would we expect in a society where women are dependent and marriage is regarded as an achievement.  For most of you, it is a be all and end all kind of thing therefore, if you are not married, woe be tide you? 

But, who said so and when was marriage made compulsory?  Sure, it is the 11th Commandment, isn't it

Because of marriage, women have not only allowed themselves be marginalised but also put their precious lives at risk in the pursuit of the notion of a stable and happy marriage, that never was.  Indeed, something is wrong and needs addressing in a Society where, women are begging their cheating husbands to return home that all is well and forgiven. 

Based on that, may I ask, wouldn't it be nice to beg him to come home hand in hand with the babe so that, you can all play HAPPY FAMILY, eh?  You on one side of the bed and the babe on the other side whilst the KING is in the middle of you both, how fantastic! Please, get these women to considered these ideas that way, they would realise, they are truly loved and married.  

princekevo:
Nigeria is a clear picture of an animal kingdom, where the survival of the fitest becomes the order of the day.
The holy book said my people suffer becoz of lack of knowledge. It is time we set a minimum qualification level for joining the police or any forces in Nigeria. I discovered that most of this actions from our forces(mostly police) are as a result of ignorance and illiteracy. Do they even checked the dictionary meaning of impersonation or what the law explained abt it before charging you of one.

@ Ikengawo who have problem with understanding, look at what the Law explained abt impersonation.

97.       A person subject to service law under this Act who, with intent to defraud any other person, falsely represents himself to be some other person, living or dead, is guilty of impersonation and liable, on conviction by a court-martial—

             

(a)        if the person represents himself to be a person entitled by will or operation of law to any specific property and he commits the offence to obtain that property, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years;

             
(b)        in any other case, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

The poster was not arrested or found in the mist of committing any of the above act. Who was he trying to impersonate by mere wearing a T shirt with a police brand name sitting in front of his house?
Am sure if Beyonce was wearing this on any street of Nigeria, the Hungry police or millitary would have arrested her for impersonation my foot

Brother, thanks for your efforts in locating the particular Section of the Act relating to this 'Impersonation' of a thing which Ikengawo and the likes seems to have a credible argument for. Things have finally come to a head, now.

It is silly to assume you know sometime when you don't.  Ikengawo's lack of knowledge or ignorance has not only misinformed the public on here, but also led to dis-franchisement of our rights - the right of citizens to seek their rights, sue the Nigerian Police and the other Armed Forces over situations as this.  Nigerian Police is notorious for their brutal and autocratic use of arbitrary powers to subdue citizens.  It's time they are rooted out of their tracks.  

Now, we have the 'Act' looking at us, can any of the Armed Forces personnel point to the particular Section of the law that was breached by the guys in question?

Section 97. said,  A person subject to service law under this Act who, with intent to defraud any other person, falsely represents himself to be some other person, living or dead, is guilty of impersonation and liable, on conviction by a court-martial—

Right let's analyse this a bit.

To start with, the guys in question are not military men and should not be tried in Military Court - they are civilians thus, our High Courts/Supreme Court could see to that assuming they'd committed a crime, not the military.  Also, they'd not committed any offence that endangered our National Security so, how could this  warrant a Court Marshall.  


Secondly from the sentence,'with intent to defraud any other person, falsely represents himself to be some other person, living or dead,' one would assume, the person to be impersonated has to be 'living or dead' and the Nigerian Armed Forces are not a 'Living Being' let alone a 'Dead' person, are they  And if they are, believe me, our country has issues and our National Security is in big trouble.  

Thirdly, there must be an 'intent to defraud'.  Where's the 'Intent', when the impersonator has to engage a person with an intent to defraud him/her. We were told the guys were simply wearing casual T-shirts embossed with the word 'Police' and that was their crime, wasn't it?  Everyone knows, these T-shirts are seen, sold and worn by civilians all over the world, except Nigeria, how timid? When arrested, they were not carrying any ammunitions, nor were they wearing masks or balaclava to disguise themselves as to show intent so tell us, where's the intent to defraud? It's obvious, there's something wrong with the Nigerian Armed Forces, don't you reckon?      

Also in singular form, the law referred to the representation of just 'one person' however, our Armed Forces comprised of millions of living beings (plural) and not one person therefore, can someone show us how the 4 Armed Forces with millions of employees had just metamorphosed to just 'one living or dead person' - again, they fell the law and thus, violated our rights  therefore, these guys, have every right and all the evidence to seek compensation from the Nigerian Police for violating their rights.


If money is an issue, (which it can be), they should club together and get a good lawyer to take the Police on, on their behalves, no matter how long.  In addition, they should set up a 'Charity' (NGO etc) to assist them in raising funds, securing sponsorship for the Cause and help in fighting the violation of Human Rights in Nigerian. Sure, everyone who understands the evil ways of the Nigerian Police will support this Charity including those in Diaspora. Thus, the Nigerian Police should be made to pay - that way the rest of them would know the boundaries they must not cross and learn to respect citizens, too.

Ikengawo:
its illegal to impersonate a military officer in nigeria and the police in nigeria is a branch of the military.
that's always been the rule.

~Bluetooth:
nigerians forget history so soon.if obj was responsible for the present condition of nigeria,i wonder what people like you will say about aguiyi ironsi babangida and abacha.

stephen2:
@MAMA GEE,you must be a silly woman to call Wole a coward,
if you must know,he never supported obj in anyting, Okay,so get that into your thick skull,even when obj was still in power,he gave an award to Wole,but being a man of integrity he rejected it BLUNTLY.
Now tell me,where the heck did u get your story from about Soyinka supporting obj?or are you one of those nigerians who go about writting rubbish?
Get you OT straighten up for the first time COCK SUCKER!!!, *HISS*

KunleOshob:
@efosanice
Evidently you know very little about what tithes is all about and what the bible really says about it thus you depend on pulpit intepretation of the most abuse passage [malachi 3:8-10] in the bible. I suggest you read this this thread form the beginning and search for other topics on tithing on this forum before you start blabbing as if you have a clue about what tithing really is. Have you read the sricpture i gave you? Read it for a start then you can start asking questions as you obvioulsy have very little to contribute as far as tithing knowledge is concerned.

PS: tithing is one of the most hotly and thoroughly debated topics on this forum, so don't come and start brandishingf that over recycled malachi passage here, it as been thoroughly debated and discarded as irrelevant on this forum. If you need to know more just ask, i am sure there would be more than enough people on this forum willing to show you biblically that tithing is not a christian requirement and the typeof tithing being practised today is a fraudulent man made doctrine.

PBundles:
There is no need to place blame or medals of honor, history shall write itself. Doesnt it always. I dont doubt Ojukwu's intentions, but saying he has balls is a bit too far. He was a military man, so in which front/battle did he fight? Did he fire any weapons? He is quoted as saying he would give his life for the struggle (Its on BBC Archives) but did he not leave. Were young men not recruited to fight at the front? Pardon me for asking  but whom within HIS family was drafted young. As usual when Elephants fight the grass suffers. At some point this war became a personal endevour bewteen Ojukwu and Gowon. Its never been hidden that they didnt like each other. Gowon is lieing when he says it wasnt against Ndigbo and on the flip side Ojukwu was certainly not a man of valor.

According to you, Ojukwu said he would give his life, did he?  Well, he refused to leave, abound several persuasions by his people - the Igbos to leave the country because, we need him. He was and still is our Cherished Son and we didn't want any harm on him therefore, we made him leave at the last minute, if he had stayed behind obviously, he wouldn't have been here today, would he?  We love him, even if the whole world hate him, we love him!!!
 
As you can see, wars are horrible - not only does it lead to the recruitment of innocent young men but also, loss of lives as well as atrocities that are committed to innocent civilians.  Yes, young men were recruited to do the dirty job of Biafran war and the same goes to other parts of the world at war today.  For example, some parts of Africa are at war right now and are still recruiting young men and even child soldiers - haven't you heard?
How appropriate is this attitude?

Could you see the difference?  Now, as you can see army recruitment is not a new thing even the British did it.  

Also, you suggested we research the Biafran/Nigerian war via the BBC Archives, really?  So, for you, the BBC has the truth about this war, is it? And I ask, from whose perspective were the BBC reporting this war? From the Biafrans perspective or the Nigerians or for their own interest? The British, the Americans, the Russian Governments were all on Nigerian side of things and the Biafrans had no one supporting them, imagine the likeness and the imbalance of power? In such situation, who would the BBC be siding/supporting?   

You see, without the massive support given to the Nigerians by these Super Powers, Nigeria would have been trashed and that's the truth, you better believe it!  

Therefore, the war story held in the BBC Archive could not only have been bent towards the Nigerian side of things but also, sympathetic of their plight at the time as the Biafrans were pounding them and gaining grounds with their fabricated Ogbunigwe.  In fact, the Nigerians were loosing grounds, until the Big Boys came to their rescue. .  That gave them confidence hence, the end to that war, ok!  So, we can not base the truth of the matter on that your BBC Archive buddy because, everyone knew where their allegiance were!

vislabraye:
@ theblessed

Is it only the Ibos who suffered in the war? What then should be done to compensate the Ibibios, Ijaws and Effik who died ?

I begin to wonder if the Biafran project had succeeded, can we truely say there won't be  marginilazation? Already I can see from the comments of some individuals ib NL that Ibos were the ones who suffered in the war.

joxiri:
pafun those your friends who are 40 and at home, just dont want to work all those people going to embassy in nigeria are willing to come here to do shite jobs
  them guys u ve mentioned are not desperate cos just as there are jobs in niger there are jobs here if they mind cleaning or other menial jobs they will definetly get a job maybe not asap but 2 yrs at home
  lets not deceive ourselves those 40 yr old men are just layabouts who dont wanna work
  man they should go job centre and they will get trainned on driving fork lift trucks or something

Keep saying the truth!  These guys are nothing but lazy a-se holes who don't want to lift a finger as long as their 'slave girls' wives are there to spin out their monthly salaries to keep them.  

Tell me, who would want to go to work in this cold weather when you have a meal ticket spinning out salaries every month, would you

Well, it's not their fault! Stop blaming the men!  Blame the desperate husband seeking Nigerian woman and the Pentecostal Church Pastors in the UK preaching 'Marriage at all cost' as if marriage is compulsory.  

Get me right yes, marriage is good however, marriage is not compulsory and not for everyone otherwise, Mary Magdalene would have married and our Lord Jesus Christ himself, would have shown that idea himself as an example. After all, his own parents were married, weren't the?? So, marriage is not compulsory but the Churches are making it look as if, if one is not married something is wrong - no, it's not!  Using marriage as a key issue, they ensure strong foot holds for lazy men/women to find fertile soil to plant in.

The problem here is, most people don't use their brains rather, they follow their emotions.  They prefer others to think for them. As far as they are concerned, and still go to church every Sunday, whatever the pastor says in Church is absolute truth. But, this Pastor, is he/she God?  The only person that can intercede (i.e. plead) for us is Jesus Christ out Lord and Saviour - no one else! When some Pastors tells you God said, ignore them. 

Yes, God does speak to some Prophets/Prophetesses about us however, these days everyone that carries a Bible calls themselves a prophet/prophetess and thus, vomit nonsense which vulnerable people easily believe and give their money for hence, the lucrative business Evangelism has become these days. In fact, I could even call myself a prophetess now and by December, I would be immensely rich!  It's a shame people dare not find out the truth themselves by reading their own Bibles. 

Again, in the Church. it's all about marriage.  They keep preaching marriage to young people hence the 'culture' these days in London, is someone you don't know meeting you for the first time and asking 'Are you married?' assuming you are single and have a career.  

Well, good luck to women who can keep an unemployed husbands that long.  As far as I'm concerned, a man has to 'dirty' his hands to feed his family irrespective of the nature of the job even if it's 'truck pushing' as long as he brings bread home.  You see, doing so does not only help maintain the family but also his 'respect and dignity'.

Personally, I can not keep a man let alone an unemployed husband, noooooooooooo! For me, you have only 3 months to find a job - anything that keeps you out of the house else, you're out like a flash, trust me!!!!!!!!!! There's no two ways about it.

Also, telling them to go back home with/without children is not a good option however, trying your hands in any kind of honest living will definitely help situation than seeing an able bodied man in his active working life lying lazy in the house doing nothing but, waiting to sign his next 'Giro' at the Job Centre every 2 weeks, how shameful!!


But, one thing I know about these lazy a-se holes are, they are good at nothing but creative thinking - thinking out selfish bad ideas.  Good at seeking/smelling out opportunities that favours them and at manipulating people hence, their successes in marrying vulnerable women who are psychologically/emotionally in need thus, are happy to keep and feed these lazy baboons forever.  Why?  Because of their need for attachment. To such women, they must have a man in the house else, what are they living for?

A confident woman, would not touch such men with a badge pole even if they are the only man on this God's planet earth.  

So lazy man, get off that couch and get a job I say, ANY JOB would do to feed your family and stop manipulating your innocent wife who doesn't know what to do with you.  

And to you woman, give him his mandate 2 - 6 month to get any job (if you can) else, kick him out in this cold weather and he would realise how good a woman you've been towards him .

joxiri:
pafun those your friends who are 40 and at home, just dont want to work all those people going to embassy in nigeria are willing to come here to do shite jobs
  them guys u ve mentioned are not desperate cos just as there are jobs in niger there are jobs here if they mind cleaning or other menial jobs they will definetly get a job maybe not asap but 2 yrs at home
  lets not deceive ourselves those 40 yr old men are just layabouts who dont wanna work
  man they should go job centre and they will get trainned on driving fork lift trucks or something