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Dis Guy:
Erm it is[b] DIRTYYYYYYYYY [/b]


I swear the VC or even student union don't have to spend a kobo  to get this entrance cleaned up
A quick run around to companies or organisation for funds or paints will be enough
the students and lecturers themselves can clean the rest up!!
everyone just hide under 'lack of funding' excuse nowadays when very simple things could be done
If the main entrance is like this, i wonder what the hostels and lecture theatres look like

I really hope this is a very old picture

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dfanthom:
I hope they are severely sanctioned for their gross misdemeanour so as to serve as a deterrent to others.
oyibo na oyibo till tomorrow, if 2 say na naija now, nobody go send d woman.  .   .   .

Hey Dfanthom, 

Don't worry, shey you understand American law? 

Na, 200 years for each of them.

It's a concluded case, just wait for the verdict!

chaircover:
Osisi & Amebo, I am sure you agree with me that good parents as yours are in the minority and that there are millions of child slaves out there who are treated very badly. It is now a crime even in Nigeria to use child labour and eventually it will be abolished; its a matter of time.

You may be right though, and there is a possibility that the whole story has been blown out of proportion and eventually the truth will come out.

The difference between what happens in Nigeria and the west is that the Au-pairs, nannies & cleaners etc are all over a certain age and work a specific number of hours for an agreed rate, besides they are so expensive than very few of us can afford to have one of these workers at our beck and call for 24 hours a day.

I just didn't like the fact that they selected this woman out of many they could have chosen. She was a widow, so 6 kids were missing both maternal and paternal care and guidance for the length of time that she was working for this couple. Lets face it, no one can care for a child as well as its parents will.

They couldn't have been paying her much more than it would have cost them to set up a petty trading business for her which is back to TheBlessed comments that we should try to help people not for what we can get in return but to help people because we are in a position to do so. Her ticket & visa alone would have set them back about £1,000 (N260,000) which would have easily started a small petty business.

Of course every situation is different and while some househelps wake up everyday cursing their masters, some ex househelps, are thanking God for placing them in such good families.

Pharoh:
[size=14pt]The story has been proven to be a hoax guys [/size]

[size=18pt]So if a hoax, you couldn't see the danger and the wake up call to curtail your ways Advise your brothers, sisters and friends Too bad? It might be a hoax but with this attitude, pray you are not the next victim.[/size]

Dis Guy:
is this a new pic?

sorry this is a f**king disgrace!! Look how dirty the university is and PROFESSORS GO THERE!!!

olabukola:
Good Morning?

mavenbox:
My man Noetic has spoken well! I dont do all biddings of any man of God, i need a confirmation in my own spirit.

Now let me tackle this secularly and advocate for the defensive.

@OP, what do you think about football stars, hollywood stars, musicians & standup comedians? Are they deserving of their earnings? The Bible says we are not to muzzle the ox that treads the grain because a labourer is worthy of his wages. The ox should eat freely out of the same grain field that it works on. There are people who will give any sum of money to see Beckham face to face or shake hands with Drogba, or support Kanu Heart Foundation with the last money on them. People have died because they wanted to see or touch Michael Jackson. Kanye West creates controversy, annoys many people and makes sales off it. Dbanj will always use dirty innuendo to pass across sensuous messages, but some people will do anything he says. Are all these people deserving of the attention or financial benefit?

My point is, what is the beef? Is it the undue attention and people-control? You cant say your complaint is cos of religion because some people's religion is hiphop and whatever the music industry says, they do and nobody raises an eyebrow. And i have never seen anyone complain about the undue amount paid to the gods of the soccer religion. Never forget that for some people, all the hope they have ever had in the world was gotten in the church.

If your point is about taxes, there i will agree with you. But its too bad that if taxes are instituted, poor churches will have an even harder time while the rich ones will still manage. And unlike companies, you cant sell shares to raise revenue for the sinking churches. What happens then?

If men have chosen to follow another man and do anything he says, (not anything at all, i hope you understand it is within limits) out of love and respect, there is nothing you can do about that. Thats how the world works. Those who dont take the lead pay those who are ahead. If you were not there when he was labouring in prayers and the word for the congregation, who are you to judge if he is paid for his services?

Just to be clear about this, if you are one of the church members, you may have the right to speak of what the pastor deserves. For those of us who are not, we do not know what makes the members do what they will so I think we should not condemn them. Leave it for God to judge.

If they were ministering lies and deceiving people for monetary gain, thats a different matter. As long as they are not teaching falsehood, God wants us to mind our business, lest we fall into error. E.g.
John 21:22-23

PupetMasta:
I think all this argument is pointless. The guy broke the law and by all indications he got a criminal conviction which gave him a deportation notice, it is painful but he is to be blamed. You don't go about breaking rules as a foreigner even if u have 12 gold medals especially in this period where there are lot of crisis (na zobo eye dem get 4 UK nau). I also blame his wife for not pushing him to regularize his papers i.e if he was eligible before he started his traffic offence episode.  

Anyway I pray the Human rite activists can help him stay cos I dont know how he will survive if he comes back to Nigeria. Me self wey use just 2 yrs for there dey find it difficult to adapt back into the Nigerian system.

woletsn:
Your husband is most important b ecause if there is no husband, there can't be children and for all you know him before you have your kids.

Not really! Because, if there is no husband/wife there would still be children not necessarily from both of you but from other sources should you choose to seek elsewhere.  It all boil down to 'freedom and choice' e.g. the man can choose to marry another woman instead, or the woman can go after other men if she's not happy with you/the arrangement in the household.

Also, in this modern times, she can seek to do it alone by going for sperm donor/IVF so, you can see anything is possible these days with a 'husband or without'.  Therefore, there's no such thing as "If there's no husband, there can't be children" because. there can!

posakosa:
if he continues to cheat----- i guess u will continue to forgive him---- what precedence are you setting for your kids ?!

Don't assume that they don't know that their father is a cheater----

Wow!  Posa, na you dey talk?  Huh, you can talk this truth again! .  God bless!

chaircover:
What TheBlessed is saying is that one doesn’t have to have to expect something back in return before doing something good for someone less privileged than us.

People seem to be justifying the reward of sending them to school in return for people leaving their own families to work as house helps in another person’s family. Most of the time, the sad thing is that these house helps are only kids themselves.

I have heard the Nigerian vs Western world argument for house helps; larger houses to maintain, more dusty, traffic jams so more difficulty in getting to the market, longer working hours etc but there are some Nigerian families who don’t have house helps & still manage to cope.

Deep Sight:
m-nwankwo can do justice to this.

But in brief: note that a divergence from the will of God is only possible at great distances from his core. That's why humans have freewill and angels do not.

And that's why Lucifer could have developed a contrary will: as your story states, he had been sent to the earth: very far from God's core.

KnowAll:
Hey man, a point of correct here!  Because, I've seen many people keep making this mistake I feel its time it's corrected. 

I noticed most Nigerians have no understanding of the of directions on the compass otherwise known as the Cardinal point as a result, don't understand Nigerian map and locations of their respective States, Towns and Villages on it hence, the mistakes.

By definition, the Cardinal Point is: One of the four principal directions on a compass: North, South, East and West.

Evidently, school geography teaches us this but I understand not many of us got there or learned that at school. Yes, in Geography we have Four Cardinal Points:  North, South, East and West and anything in between these points are referred to as:

North East, North West, South East, South West.

It irritates me when I see people referring to the South as South South because that's where I come from. 

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SOUTH SOUTH instead, one could say FURTHER SOUTH OR FAR SOUTH.

Yes, if we are talking in Pigeon English everyone would understand and no offence but when you are speaking or writing simple English, it's another thing. Please can we deviate from spreading or contaminating innocent minds with bad grammar and sentences since Nairaland is an educative/informative medium.


Yes there is A South - South geographical Zone. It means South of the the South or deep south which is commonly used in America to descibe areas just south of New Orleans. So lady Bayelsa and Rivers State qualify for these Geographical expression, Delta is to the West of the deep south and Cross River  and Akwa Ibom ARE to the East. The SE as it is Known in Nigeria is actually East Central hence the old EASTERN Igbo States where called East Central State.

The correct nomenclature for these areas should be as thus :

Rivers and Bayelsa and Akwa Ibom - SSE
Delta and Southern Ondo Statw - SSW

Cross River is the true SE states as it tucked in the SE Corner of the map of Nigeria as suppose to the Igbo States of Imo,Abia Enugu,Anambra and Ebony State. It may intrest u to kow Cross River State use to be SEastern State after the state creation exercise of 1967.

These terms would be a mouthful, hence for easy expression and understanding the term SS is commonly used to include both the SSW and SSE.


See compass map below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brosen_windrose.svg  


[b] Yes, I could see your compass another American Rubbish, geared for the American market! The world is not buying it! But, who doesn't understand what you mean by South South? We do, however, what we are trying to inform here is the correct way of doing things.  In fact, it's the divisions in a country that leads to all these south south south and east east east.

Imagine a white man teaching us Nigerians how to speak and use our languages: Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba,?  That's exactly what you are trying to do here. Imagine the Americans teaching the English their own Language. That doesn't surprise me either, as Americans will always bend things to suit themselves e.g favour is bent as favor, honour as honor etc. At the end of the day, whose language is it anyway?  The English.  English language belongs to the English, any other is borrowed. 

By the way, who invented the compass/cardinal points?  Was it not the British because of their love of the sea and their sea faring skills (i.e. travelling by sea). For that reason, you can not fight the British at sea and win hence the inclusion in one of their National songs that says! Rule Britania, Britania rules the waves! Probably, you haven't heard that before? So, your South south south and the East east east was added to each of the four main points on the compass by the Americans for their convenience, ok!  So, stop trying as it would not wash! 

This rubbish from your American Wikipedia, used to give credence to your research would not wash either, buddy? If the information on this cardinal Point are acceptable by most countries of the world, why then do we have locations such as MIDDLE EAST and FAR EAST mentioned all the time in the world News etc instead of MIDDLE MIDDLE EAST OR FAR FAR EAST as you suggests.  No one had ever heard such before including yourself. Or does it mean people living in those locations haven't got their own Middle Middle East or Far Far East we would like to know since that is the correct nomenclature, as you claimed. We await to hear this.

So, there is no such thing as SOUTH SOUTH, its all formulated by lazy Americans and for the convenience of illiterate Amerians, ok! In fact, by the look and sound of it, anyone that knows their salt obviously, knows  something is wrong/missing somewhere. No wonder, the world is not buying it.

You see, to learn a language, you have to go directly to the country itself, in order to learn first hand. I don't mean common street slags or local accents. I mean, first hand grammar and the correct way of doing things. 

Your American English is second hand, so are their Education and not really respected all over the world, anyway.  Please, stop pushing your luck![/b]

tdmoggy:
your resonse, lacks an understanding of my context. re-read my posting

I don't need to re-read your essay.  The mere thought of negotiating for someone's child to come and live with you in your own household and serve you/family, is disgusting!  Since this concept of boy, boy thing is so marvellous, why didn't your parents send you off some where to serve.  Maybe, you'd be here now writing about your own sad experiences. 

YOU SEE, I DON'T BUY THAT IDEA OF EXPLOITING THE POOR BY PRETENDING TO HELP THEM.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO, DON'T YOU  YOU WOULD NOT ASK FOR ANY REWARDS WHATSOEVER AND CERTAINLY, NOT THEIR CHILDREN COMING TO LIVE WITH YOU AS A RESULT, AS THIS GIVES RISE TO ABUSIVE AND CRUEL SITUATIONS WE ARE ALL HERE, READING ABOUT.   

Because of poverty, I don't blame people for their wicked/cruel attitudes towards others as that's why, people find it so difficult to help others.  Also, the problems we have in Africa are not only poverty oriented/linked but also, grandiosity - our need to be recognised/worshipped. Because, we have money and know we have the ability/access to most things in life, we tend to show our wealth in many negative and oppressive ways thus, the evil.

tdmoggy:
In defence of the Nigeria house boy/girl arrangement.

In Nigeria, housemaids and house boys are not locked up or denied access to the out side world.
Additionally, their passports and/or travel documents (if any) are not withheld.

They tend to be paid / or their people paid (based on what ever arrangement was put in place and agreed upon prior to commencement of the house boying service).

Does this mean abuses do not occur? of course not; but it is absurd to tar every one with the same brush. My parents were responsible for training our maid up to university level. To us kids growing up however, she was an auntie, and still is regarded as such up on till today. She is a very successful lady today laregely thanks to my parents, who also brought us up to respect her and see her as an aunt and not just a maid. This system does work if one takes out the abuse, and child labor/exploitation.

tdm

So, by your house girl turning out perfect, made slavery right then, eh Therefore, all poor and people in need requiring support from us, should try it, first! How, cruel you are How, I wish I could hear the experiences of the enslaved in particular, that of your auntie, you are talking about here. I'm sure, there's a book in her that is, a best seller. 

If only human beings would treat each other the same without differentiating then, there wouldn't be 'Slavery'. God frowns on Slavery you know hence, his deliverance of the people of Israel from bondage in Egypt.  Obviously, the Egyptian slave masters, enjoyed the services as well as the maltreatments they dished out on the Israelites hence the reluctance to accord them their freedoms. The same principle applies in every slave and master relationship situation as Genesis Chpts. 29 to 31 testifies what Laban, Jacob's uncle put him through before he could gain his freedom. Therefore, this act of Slavery is not a very nice thing people! And those who advocate it should please, walk a mile in a slave's shoe then, they will know!

But why would anyone enslave another if not for lack of humanity in themselves? That 'Good Samaritan act', and that 'love thy Neighbour as yourself thing' obviously does not register. As a result, I ask those who love to enslave others, if you can afford to enslave them or buy their services with your wealth, why can't you afford to show mercy and humanity at least, by being 'charitable' in their times of need? 

No, it's all about benefit/gain, what's in it for me? After all, what would I gain from helping them?  They are not my family some would say? Again, I ask what happens to humanity? What happens to helping someone you don't know without asking for rewards?   

This is because, Nigerians love this servant and Master thing - boy, boy thing! Yes, they love to be respected, adored, honoured and worshipped hence their love for titles - Oga, oga, Madam, madam, Sir, sir, Alhaji, Alhaja, Chief this and that etc as a way of distinguishing themselves from riff-raff in society thus, all the signs and elements of bondage in our society and on our own people.

As we all know, a head cutter does not like his own head cut, does he? Obviously, when a master/madam doesn't know what it is to be a servant or slave, wouldn't they think it's their God given right to trash others? To that I suggest, they put themselves through the experience then, they would know what it is like and how to treat/respect others, no matter how small and poor.  Maybe, this concept of boy, boy - an exploitation of the poor, so rampant in our society will begin to disappear. Maybe, when everyone become as successful as the auntie above then,  people would learn to clean their own dirts without waiting for a slave.

~Bluetooth:
Kudos to the governor but pressing and embarrassing issues i'l suggest he attend are the cases of kidnapping & armed robbery.Enugu may have good investment drive but investors get scared away in an unsecured environment.Everything seems to be working in lagos because there many meagre jobs that the youths engage in and indigenes do not really cause much trouble as compared to SS/SE.I commend the giant stride of the governor

Mbeki:
The only Language Nigerians understand is go to school, get a job,get married and manufacture children if or if you don't have the means to carter for them (God will provide)
It is a crime not to be married in Nigeria not to talk of not having children. So every woman wants to be married and have children, they simple don't care how.
Thats the reason why.
Once a lady is above 30yrs, she becomes desperate and apprehensive with respect to marital issues. It's only few Nigerians ladies that have other life goals apart from Marriage. The rest, after school job or no job they want a man. After 40 yrs, any available male =husband.

phammyus:
This issue boils down to inferiority complex which in extreme cases it can manifest itself in either withdrawn or aggressive social behavior. I think a reasonably well doing man will not bother on that, the father owns his child and if his daughter wants to retain his name fine. If your name is good to be associated with it will be retained till eternity, e.g Obafemi Awolowo who everyone knows to be an hero, every man that marries up his daughter will be proud to say her father is Awolowo. So why can she use the name if she wishes, all you men have to do is build your name to be reputable in the society.

[size=18pt] God bless you for your intelligent and logical reasoning, in this matter! Only, a man that lacks confidence in himself worry about these things.  Based on their own hard work, why can't they build their own good reputations (not 419, not money launderer, not paid assassin, not a kiddnapper and certainly not a terrorist etc could earn them the recognition they crave.) instead of complaining and moaning their lazy a-ses off, on here.  Abi, no be the owner of the cow na im get the pikin?  So, why worry about names

If they want recognition then, they should work on it!!!  We will answer our family names, the way we want afterall, it's our birth rights and because, we can! So much of your intimidations and control over women therefore, eat your hearts off, those of you! [/size]