₦airaland Forum

micolaj:
The final say is not with Tinubu; it is with GOD.

There is no God factored into the design of a democracy.

Rather, a godfather was factored into the design.

Power belongs to who the people choose to give it too as it tickles their fancy.

Coachaminu:
Suddenly, it appears as if the masses have no say on the matter....what a country. Will the fate of Lagos be determined by one man?

Masses can vote in an election, but party members vote in a primary, especially a direct primary as the APC intends.

If Ambode is afraid of a direct primary because he knows his own registered party masses/members would not support him, is it then the democratic way to be imposed by Tinubu like he was in his 1st term?


This same Ambode went out of his way to ensure he disgraced Fashola who had earlier allegedly fired/retired him from his civil service job and was not supporting him for the ticket as he presented Supo Sasore for the primary that Ambode eventually won due to Tinubu's support.


If Ambode losses a direct primary because he does not have the support of party bigwigs, then that is the best of democracy and party politics as it is obtainable even in the US where aspirants court the support of influential party bigwigs.

He should accept his loss as a victory for democratic choice.


I have come to realise that the people who criticise Tinubu the most, are those who are offended that he did not impose them like he had earlier done to give them political recognition in the past. An example being Gov Rotimi Akeredolu of Ondo State who as Tinubu's imposed candidate in 2013 lost the Ondo governorship to Mimiko, but was crying foul that same Tinubu wanted to "impose" Segun Abraham on APC in 2017 because he wanted to be reimposed by Tinubu.

He must win and then confront his Wilder demons.

It seems beauty now means hungry and haggard.

Even Ben Bruce would qualify as a beautiful female before this winner.

Who would be the runner up between Omisore and Adeleke?

Sunday will reveal its secret.

PDP has finally given power to the people the only way they know best: empowering them for violence.


While they who are the chieftains empower themselves with PINless access to the blessed ATM Dasuki.

PDP! Power to the People, not!

AZeD1:
This post is an example of fake news.

Fashola's candidate for 2015 wasn't Hamzat it was Olasupo Shasore.

I have been reading that rubbish assertion since this Ambode reelection matter started.

Thankfully, someone else knows the real events of the Ambode imposition by Tinubu in 2015.

Why exactly does Ambode want to be imposed again by Tinubu in 2019, after ensuring his administration disgraced Fashola for not supporting his imposition by ensuring there was an opponent to Ambode at that Lagos APC primary of 2014?

Ambode should face the direct primary and start campaigning to registered party members of APC, instead of waiting for the ticket on a platter of gold like his 1st term.

The best of democracy is direct primaries, and the loser cannot fault his loss beyond the fact that the ordinary party members chose someone else legitimately.

Metuh:
How will the congratulatory wish of an illiterate and irresponsible deadbeat dad affect Linda Ikeji?

Abi u want make Baby J self get a deadbeat dad?

How can a person be called illiterate when he is already educated?

Or is it tertiary education to learn and master a skill or vocation for economic reward, that makes one literate instead of the primary and secondary education that is actually designed to bring about literacy?

As long as one has completed secondary education, literacy has been achieved at the highest level possible. Tertiary education after that is then a matter of choice if indeed it is required, and the likes of Wizkid and Messi have proven that they do not require it with an economic vocation that does not require it.

University education is for those who need it to acquire an economic skill or vocation or just want knowledge for the sake of the curious mind.

GSA01:
Saraki is not Yoruba, That he is married to a Yoruba woman doesn't make him a Yoruba man, you guys should stop that cheap Propaganda of him being a Yoruba man, as a matter of fact he can not win South west, not when Tinubu Political structures are still in place..
Kogi and Nassarawa are still Buhari catchment. and Buhari will get 25% in Akwa Ibom and Delta for the first time in history...

If you still doubt Saraki Ethnic group Wikipedia---
Olusola Saraki was born on the 17th of May, 1933 at Ilorin, Kwara State and died in Lagos November 14, 2012.[1] His mother was from Iseyin in Oyo State and his father was from Ilorin. His paternal ancestors were Fulanis who came from Mali about 150 to 200 years earlier.

From what you have quoted and being claimed by the Sarakis themselves, the only relationship that makes them Nigerian is their Yoruba ancestry and not their Malian ancestory.

Hence the reason Oloye Olusola Saraki was born by a Yoruba woman and married a Yoruba woman and his children including Bukola married into the Yoruba tribe.

The Sarakis always ensure to marry into the Yoruba tribe

Or you want Nigerians to vote for a Malian as president because his Malian ancestors settled in Nigeria?

A Malian cannot be president of Nigeria. Let Saraki return to Bamako.

That is what his opponents will use against him and Bukola will suddenly claim he is a Yoruba Nigerian and not a descendant of Malian immigrants in Nigeria.

You got their plate number, please report this to the police who should report the military men to their own military authorities.


Never let this allegation end without a disciplinary case made of it.

This man never claimed to have done NYSC, so no crime has been committed.


Rather than do NYSC upon finishing Law School, he at that same year proceeded to a political elective post in Oyo State Assembly, which he claimed did not require National Service and has not been disproved.

If the role of Federal Minister requires National Service unlike his former State Assembly role, then how did he pass through the screening?

If state political elective office does not suffice as National Service, then he should resign or be sacked and those who screened him should also be sacked.

Blessingmoyo:
"No minister has ever resigned before."
Lies.
Barth Nnaji. NOI. Moh'd Ali Pate. Amina Moh'd. All resigned their offices.

"No, I meant no minister has resigned because of allegations."
Again, lies.
Stella Oduah resigned over allegations regarding purchase of BMWs.
Lie with sense

Even you too should lie with sense.

When did Stella Oduah resign over BMW allegations over that was long debated for about a year before her fake M.Sc and PhD scandal also broke without any action from her or government?

Was she not replaced in a minor cabinet reshuffle by the corruption enabling Jonathan regime, just in time to be awarded a PDP Senate ticket?

If it's not Sahara or Premium Times, then it's just a load of bullshit.

I trust those 2 news outlets to show you documentary evidence for their allegations.

Indeed Nigerians are fantastically corrupt.

Corruption is the only cultural trait that is national. The only national cohesion we have managed to evolve since 1914.

Nice one.

ottohan:
Afonjas like bobrisky and denrele have started it here in nigeria..
Afonjas and stupidity na like 5&6

Is Charly boy the grandfather of lewdness also Afonja?

Or is Charly daughter Afonja?

So says the godfather terrorizing Kwara State.

A pot calling the kettle black.

A man who had to sleep overnight in the National Assembly car park, so he could spring a treacherous surprise on his own party legislators and disenfranchise them from voting in their very first joint legislative task, just so he could become Senate President as the only candidate at any cost.

When you are done reenacting your treachery at the PDP primaries, let us know so we can all agree you are a cunning criminal with no honour.

So says the godfather terrorizing Kwara State.

A pot calling the kettle black.

"as a Diaspora person, I kept coming back, knocking, to help Nigeria. On the other hand I can’t knock forever.”

As a Diaspora Nigerian, the government might even ask him why he did not leave Canada to do NYSC in Nigeria when he graduated donkey years ago, since he knew he would later develop interest in his Nigerian roots.

They will tell him no government contract without NYSC discharge or exemption. Infact, if he is interested in any contract with government, he must return as an adult and undertake the 1yr National Service he is owing Nigeria before any business deals can be entertained by the government.


Hahahahaha!


Mr Diaspora, abeg focus on your business wherever you get it. Worry not about Nigeria and the things they would rather hold in high regard.

naijapips04:
Just shut up. The only illegality I see here is someone forging an exemption certificate that she's not entitled to in the first place.

Why are you so worked up like you are disappointed others are not as enraged as you are?

You copied me on your thread and I made a comment responding to the same assertion you had made earlier, which I still find absurd that grandfathers and grandmothers in their 50s would be participating in the NYSC orientation camp, yet you are vexed because I continue to underscore the fact that something that looks legitimate may not actually be legitimate just as Kemi Adeosun discovered?

Did Adeosun deny you import waivers or took up a job you had hoped to get?

Why the anger?

naijapips04:
Shut your mouth you this dolt.

If she likes she should be employed in Mars. The rule states that, since she graduated before 30, she can never have an exemption certificate.

What she was supposed to do is undergo the mandatory 1 year service like the rest of the people are doing. I had 50 year old people in my camp. Kemi is not better than them.

I believe even the grandfather and grandmother corpers you witnessed, are a ruse and illegality given the cover of legitimacy.

When one of them falls down dead in camp, the rooftop will be blown out of this illegality being perpetrated at a legitimate place.

[quote author=BabaRamota1980 post=71275264][/quote]Let him continue his say, I will also have my say with facts, showing that the cowards and tribalists are the very ones who have been calling others cowards and tribalists.

Olril18:
even if the shit you spout is admitted to be the truth, why should a right thinking person hate another ethnic group for what their political or military class are doing or has done, has all the igbos in the world held a meeting before where they agree to all what their military class did before?
if you hate them so much that you will be using what some group of misguided people has done in the past to taunt them ,why don't you let them be on their own in their Biafra..
how can a Nigerian hate another Nigerian because of an event that happened long before most were born.
if it is to postrate before Mr asiwere tinuofo or shout sai baba, you are good.
as if igbos are the people that said Nigeria should be the headquarters of shithole republic.

Haven't you heard that Igbos hate Awolowo for daring to contest and win the Premiership of his own tribal region ahead of Azikiwe who was also contesting for same position on a different party?

For daring to campaign to his people and win among his people, Igbos say Awolowo introduced tribal politics in Nigeria and denied an Igboman the birthright of his forefathers on foreign soil.

They still hate Yorubas because of Awolowo, while we Yorubas just laugh at them for the unserious clowns that they are.

Xander85:
You're an absolutely vile creature!

I just engage you here to draw out that vileness and memorialise it for everyone to see and refer back to! These type of threads as terrible as they are are necessary to show my naive 'one Nigeria' kinsfolk just what we're up against and the type of murderous characters they want us to continue sharing the same country with!

You see, you're buttressing the point i made earlier about you sitting on the fence....giving the lame excuse that it's not your duty or that of the Yoruba to encourage or facilitate the Biafran secession bid! What a cop out! Dude, if i were sharing the same country with a people that are as troublesome and a danger to my people as you make the Igbo out to be, i'd support in a heartbeat any plans they have to secede so my people can be safe and share the country only with 'angels' and 'saints' like you suggest! Now we have the Biafrans/Igbos/IPOB that feel they're sharing the same country with a people having a medieval, vindictive and murderous disposition! You don't see us sitting on the fence saying it's the job of these people to leave 'one Nigeria' if they so wish....rather you see us actively doing something about it, knowing that the survival and progress of our people as a race depends on us distancing ourselves from these type of people! On the other hand, you see these people accusing us of hate and sending their murderous armies into Igbo land to bully, intimidate and kill us in cold-blood! We have the blood of our innocent kinsmen as evidence to show just how serious we are to extricate ourselves from sharing the same country with hateful schmucks like you....what can you show as evidence that YOU throwback wants to extricate your own people from sharing the same country with a people you and the OP have painted in such unflattering colours and accused of being antithetical to the interests of the Yoruba if one of them they ever becomes president!

The day Ndigbo start taking advice from a bigoted spawn of lucifer like you is the day i'll book them all up for an appointment to see a shrink! You mean you want IPOB/Biafrans to take advantage of Nigerias' flawed political system.....vote in people sympathetic to the cause, and seek to influence the rest of Nigeria at 'the discussion table' in which the core muslim north that are prepared to murder for the continuation of 'one Nigeria' outnumber us three-to-one? Dude, what are you smoking? You actually think the 'owners of Nigeria' are gonna stand by and let individuals sympathetic to the break-up of Nigeria contest election, never mind allowing them to win it? In any case, you all have seen the kind of treacherous and lilly-livered elite we are dealing with in Igboland! I think it was on the day of the sit-at-home or a day after, i saw on the news a rogues gallery of so called traditional rulers from Abia go to Aso Rock to kiss Buharis' butt! These are traditional rulers from a state where the fulani military kidnapped on of their own, his wife and son (Mazi Kanu) since last year, yet they go to Abuja to tell Buhari he's doing a 'marvellous job'! Sure he is.....if doing a marvellous job means sending your murderous kinsfolk down to the southeast to lay waste the region, murder innocent protesters and kidnap the man and his parents you see as a stumbling block to the continuation of the farce you call Nigeria!

You're one pathetic SOB mate! So you accuse Igbos of hate on what basis? Is it based on what you read here on this faceless forum, or are their actual instances in real life you care to refer to? How do you know those people you accuse on here of disrespecting and riling-up your people are actually all Igbo? Heck, you claim to be Yoruba.....i even have my doubts about that! The ethnic groups Ndigbo accuse of having some among them who hate on us and have made hate speeches against us....we can show you concrete proof of this: remember the anti-Igbo speeches and assertions of Akintola and the Sadauna; remember the killings of Igbos in the north in the 50s; remember the pogroms of Igbos in the north in 66/67; remember Asaba massacre; remember talk of shooting anything and everything in Biafra that moves; remember the starvation policy in Biafra....dreamt up when the plucky Biafran soldiers were proving too difficult to defeat via conventional warfare; remember all the numerous religious riots and killings in the north in the 70s, 80s and 90s; remember the killing of youth corpers in 2011 in the north (some of who were Igbo....and Yoruba as well); remember all the talk of Igbos never being allowed to be president of Nigeria (statements made by the very same people who cheer on python dance in the east); remember Oba Akiolus' talk of drowning any Igbo that doesn't support the APC in the Lagos Lagoon; remember that doctor in the US that boldly and openly supported the killing of Igbos; remember the deportation of Igbos from Lagos to Upper Iweka by Fashola; dude, i could go on and on! These are verifiable instances when others have openly shown hate to the Igbos you accuse of hate! NOW YOU LIST CONCRETE EVIDENCE TO SHOW THE HATE OF IGBOS TOWARDS YOUR KINSFOLK AND OTHER ETHNICITIES!

I can even show you instances where northern elite have made disparaging remarks against the Yoruba, but of course that one doesn't matter to throwback since it's the northerner muslims saying it! It's when the Igbos say Lagos is no-mans-land that you get hot under the collar, jab a finger in their direction pointedly and scream 'hate speech...hate speech'! There are numerous instances where the Hausa/Fulani have engaged Yoruba in a deadly fight ON YORUBA LAND, yet according to throwback that is an expression of love! Care to mention how many times, if any, Yoruba and Igbo have engaged in deadly street battles in Yorubaland?

Dude, i don't know the kind of psychological problems you face that makes you see black as white and ignore your moral-compass whn it's Igbos involved, but you seriously need help....ASAP!

The emotional Igbo cry baby at his best.

Cry to the UN and ICC for telling you your shameful history.

Azikiwe is a nationalist for telling all who cared to listen about how his Igbo tribe would dominate the independent Nigeria.

But Akintola is anti Igbo and a tribalist for alerting his Yoruba people to the execution of that domination agenda that was being played out at the university of Ibadan, a federal university?

The same University where Azikiwe kept on appointing a succession of 3 Igbos to be the Chairman of the school council?

Where an Igbo led council ensured a junior Prof Kenneth Dike was appointed Principal ahead of the pioneering African professor in the whole school and most senior African on the academic board, Prof Oladele Ajose who was a medical doctor. And when same Kenneth Dike was reluctant to accept the position he knew he wasn't the most qualified Nigerian, the Igbo school council chairman Francis Akanu Ibiam replied that the school would have to look outside for other candidates rather than consider the other qualified and more senior Nigerians, just because they are not the most senior Igbo which was the only merit required.

Same Kenneth Dike went on to recruit as school principal, and out of 115 recruited, only 3 Yorubas merited employment while the bulk of the rest went to the East.


So that Akintola had the effrontery to call out the tribalism and nepotism of the Igbos, he was an Igbo hating tribalist who deserved to die?

Olril18:
we Yorubas will lie to ourselves that fajuyi gave his life for aguiyi ironsi when we know infact fajuyi has actually been airmarked to die, just like guest ironsi because of his role in the first coup.
if you don't know history, consult history books or ask your father to tell you the truth, not the legend of fajuyi being spouted about,a lie that has become truth to protect the man..
no be we Yorubas?
people who will abuse saraki but worship at the feet of headmaster of corruption Tinubu..

I know factual history and not Igbo propaganda crafted to escape the infamous toga of the Igbo coup of January 1966 as it truly was.

Even Major Ademoyega who was the only Yoruba Major involved, would later fight Emmanuel Ifeajuna while both were in prison, for being used to actualise a sectional agenda that was well disguised as a National revolution.

Olril18:
they kill, they kill, absolute trash they keep talking about?
who are those that killed, igbo civilians or military leaders?
so igbo civilians should suffer for what a few stupidd people did.. haven't the unprogressive northerners retaliated the killings by themselves killing thousands of innocent igbos?
between killing of thousands of civilians who are innocent and we're not there when the plan to kill those bunch of political leaders was being plotted and retaliating by killing innocent Nigerians in their thousands because they are igbos, I know which one is much worse than the other.

didn't fajuyi also participated in the coup?
why don't we Yorubas take vicarious liability for his and other pockets of Yorubas who participated in the first coup.
Yoruba and hypocrisy should go hand in hand.

Fajuyi participated in whose coup as what?

Keep digging in the trashcan for the lottery ticket, you cannot escape reality and the history that forged it.

ontarioissauga:
That's tribal.. Meanwhile bring the evidence.

So I reckon all those that dare to criticise Adeosun are on a tribal tirade regardless of the fact that a forgery did occur as much as Stella Oduah scrambled helter skelter to erase all her previous false academic claims when the story broke?

ontarioissauga:
You said Alison Madueke didn't serve and Stella Odua had no academic cert.

Yes and a very factual reference for that matter.

naijapips04:
Her Exemption certificate is not Legally obtained! Face the facts man. No NYSC staff would give anybody exemption, if the age on your certificate is reading below 30.

You are defending a criminal merely because she comes from your tribe. Face it.

If this had been an Ebere or Chioma, trust me you won't be spewing all these trash.

Maybe that's how you operate. Speak for yourself, while I speak for myself.

All I have said is in black and white, I fail to see where my arguments come off as tribal.

Maybe Alibaba is also tribal?

naijapips04:
IF they like they should return from Mars. Any day they choose to return, they must give Nigeria One year of unalloyed service. That is what the law says.

I understand your own perspective regarding serving whenever they did return, if the NYSC statutes legitimately allows that, as opposed to some under the table setup that some might be engaging in only to also later discover it is just a ruse also.

But my concern is with the attitude of Nigerians who are voicing that a "diasporan" ought to have returned to Nigeria to serve in NYSC at that time they graduated in their foreign society.