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[quote author=E_monkey]I don't know how many times you people need to be told that back then, in the past, things like that were acceptable. It was part of their culture to marry girls off very early and it was not a practise that originated from Islam.
It's not as if he was told to marry a girl of that age in the Qur'an, it was something associated with the culture and way of life of the people in that region.
You fools will never understand a simple explanation and will instead keep flogging a non-issue that has been explained countless times.[/quote]no wander your name is monkey.

Stop Monkeying Around here pls.

Sweetnecta: ^^^ I dont know what you are on.
But it is a bad quality in you if:
you re not a muslim, yet dress up like a muslim.
That is deceit. You need to go and remove the Islamic head covering you have on in your picture.
You should uncover your head, as it should be uncovered.

if you are a muslim, then you are one of the most ignorant muslims on earth.
islam does not need you and it will be a relieve if the wheat is known clearly from the useless shaft.

did you not notice from her post that she was quoting you saying that you can have sex with a three year old child?

Lol.

This is insane.

dekung: Uncle Jo,
Could you pls tell the house how the issue of tithe precede the Jewish law bearing in mind that there was only one record of Abraham giving tithe which came from spoils of war and another account was that of Jacob promisin to give God a tenth of all he had if he becomes successful however there was no record of him ever fulfilling this promise

the issue of giving tith by abraham was use to show that since Jesus christ priest hood is in the fashion of melchizedek that it was superior than that of Aron who was a son of Abraham that paye tith to melchizedek.

That Jesus high priest status was in the manner of melchizedek = direct appointment by God. Superior to Aron.

Since his appoinment is not through heridetery. Father to son.
But direct from God. Like melchizedek.

That is why that hebrews 7 says that it is obvious. That our lord sprang from a tribe that there was no mention of officiating in the alter but that he was of the tribe of Judah.

spicy v: @ OP: it is actually a lack θf understanding that would make one to sow without having any expectation! Does a farmer sow seeds without expecting a harvest? Infact, the reason that people that sow do not receive anything is because they closed their mind by not expecting anything! Effective sowing is sowing with an expectation θf a specific harvest! So yes you must expect something in return because there is no harvest without a seed! Why would the bible talk about seed time and harvest or θf a man reaping what he sows?

Please wisen up if you want to start getting results!

lies.

Is that why atheist are the richest people on earth?

The bile says that all christian should do work.

Donation should be voluntary and not under compulsion/necessity for God 2corinthianian 9:7

Joagbaje: Men that died refers to the high priest under levitical order. But Jesus is our high priest under melchizedek order. What's the big deal

meaning that the new high priest is Jesus that does not die and does not need tith.

If you have to give men that dies tith you are taking us back to the old order.

Since the high priest has been change and we have a new high priest that does not operate as the former why do you still demand from us the things that the former high priest needed?

The new high priest need only a sacrifice of lips Hebrews 13:15

to go therefor and make disciples of people of all nations matthew 24:14 and matthew 28:18-20.

If all christians are as busy as apostle paul preaching why will they have to pay tith to others?

In the old system it was only the livite that work in the temple in behalf of all the nation of israel.

The livite has no inheritance no land but the temple work.

That was there assignment.

But for the christians they where all to be preachers not having a master or lord except christ there leader.

So why would someone want to sit and collect tith?

Was the command to pay tith something the apostle forgot to do?

Did you hear any of them demand for tith?

Did they forget?

If they all were to preach who then will pay tith to who?

Enigma: ^^^ I don't agree with most things you are saying on this thread but the bolded, which I found understandable, caught my attention and I find particularly interesting.

friend, if i am wrong i stand corrected.

Myjoe has refuse taking a stand and i cant put words in his mouth.

true2god: @ truthislight, this is an anonymous forum u knw hence almost evryone on dis forum dnt knw one and another. But i must ask u a question and i need u honestly ansa me. Between u and OLAADEGBU who is a fraud?

read the thread then you will know who is a fraud.

Or does saying what the bible contain makes one a fraud?

I always stand and ready to defend the bible is that my crime?

The almighty God stand to judge between you and me who is a liar.

thehomer: davidylan where are you?
Have you become delirious again?

do you have the answer to life span now?

Then present it on this thread.

or is it that you are addicted to endless debate that has no ends/values?

OLAADEGBU: That these are the last days or the unfulfilled prophecies are not the bone of contention on this thread. The Lord Jesus Christ did not give an exact time, date or year. If your Society that is claimed to be the only Prophet of God are stating dates in their past failed prophecies what does that make them?

JW dont fixed the date of the end or do they say they know the date.

They only explain bible prophesy.

That cant be a crime!

it is the detractors that make/assign dates to JW explanations of bible prophesie.

They bring to people notice what has come to pass as a watchman will do.

There are so many prophesy to this effect.

People have to be well inform so that they cant have any excuse of not knowing we are in the last days.

OLAADEGBU: Rather, I think frosbel has more in common with your Society since he believes in most, if not all, of the doctrines you teach. Choosing not to fellowship with the body of Christ will expose you to false doctrines and prophets that are designed to make us go astray. If you don't fellowship means that you are not a fellow sheep.

how?

Are you saying that JW dont meet together?

What are the JW kingdom halls meant for if not to meet together?

Docjay487: [b]
1874 was exact date of our Lord's return. (The Time
Is At Hand, pg 170)

1914 marked the battle of the great day of God
almighty with the complete overthrow of the earth's
rulership. (The Time Is At Hand, pg 101)

1925 Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other Old Testament
patriarchs were resurrected and are now living on
earth. (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, pg 336)

1940 ushered the end of religion and with it the
complete downfall of satan's organization. (Religion
pg. 336)

1975 marked the end of 6,000 years of human history
and started the 1,000 year reign of Jesus Christ -
the millennium. (Life Everlasting in the Freedom of
the Sons of God, pg 29,30)
__________________________

Q: -What is a false prophet?
__________________________
   -At the time of these prophecies(?) did they

claim    being 'inspired'?
   -are we still to believe their claims of 

'inspiration'?

corrections? comments? objectios?____ All are

welcome.[/b]

where there is a dead body vultures will gather.

Guy, i hope you are not sent by oladegbu/nimshi/JW detrators?

Are you sure that what you have posted is exactly what the JW said?

Have you try finding out if what the JW base their calculation is not found in the bible?

Am aware that the disciple of christ have always wanted to know when the end will come and christ gave them signs, then added that no one knows the day and hour which the JW never claim to know, acts 1:6,7.

If what they base their calculation in is the bible are you saying bible prophesy are false?

To help our understanding Jesus gave signs that will mark the last days and the bible are filled with such signs.

The JW to the best of my knowledge are saying that this are bible prophesy that shows that we are living in the last days that people should sit up.

Are you saying that those prophesy should not be brought out?

Are you saying that people should not be warned?

That people should not know about this prophesy contain in the bible.

That all that matters is prosperity?

That christiandom is not interested in those prophesy and calculation means that God made a mistake for putting them there?

Do you take the bible as God's word?

Are you saying that we are not living in the last days?

Are you saying that God'skingdom will not come again?

Are there no prophesy in the bible?

This is JW web site pls confirm those from those publications for yourself.

www.watchtower.org

peace

Joagbaje: We are not discussing tithes here. But the doctrine of giving and receiving . And for your information , tithing wasnt a Jewish affair but a principle based on the bible like others such as faith, prayer,worship offerings,, etc. They all pre existed the Jewish law and the Jewish nation. And there's never a place in the bible where God put an end to it or them. I don't like to enter debate on tithe . Let everyone be convinced in his own mind.

if you dont want to enter a debate on tith then dont come to a public forum and say the above.

Do you really understand what the bible book of Hebrews 7 says on the issue of tith?

"That in the former arrangement it was men that are dying that receives tith"

are you saying that on this new arrengement that it is still also men that are dying that will also receive tith?

What then is the essence of classing it as "in the former it was men that are dying"

are the men that you are asking to collect tith not dying again?

OLAADEGBU: Can you explain what you mean by this?

that post was for Frosbel.

I only added your name cus it cross my mind that you may end up having same conclusion with him.

He said that he does not go to church again that he only gathers with his wife and children at home.

Heb 10:25 says gathering together should not be forsaken.

Arriving at decision contrary to the bible leads one to being an atheist.

Maybe i should not have added your name since it was not you that made the statement. Sorry then.

Ed

MacDaddy01: A student was sitting outside his university classroom, reading God's Word, when his atheistic professor walked by and happened to hear the student exclaim, "Wow! Praise the Lord!" Intrigued, the professor asked the student what had him so excited. "Well," the student replied, "I just read how God parted the waters of the Red Sea so the Hebrews could pass to safety." The professor calmly explained that in actuality there was a mistranslation and the Reed Sea where the crossing actually took place was, at that time of year, only about three inches deep. Confident he had handled the situation, the professor went to retrieve something from his office. Upon his return a minute or two later, he again passes the student as once more he loudly exclaims,"Wow! Praise the Lord!" Interested, the professor asks the student what is so fascinating this time. The student responds, "I just read how God drowned the entire Egyptian army in three inches of water!"

yea!
That is what i call a joke.
Cool

Christiscoming: Will a Christian who refuses to Tithe be disqualified from entering Heaven - oh yes, watch out !!
In my years as Christian I have mostly tithed, although Ive had seasons of being very anti-tithing & promoting all the various arguments against it. It was during that time God fully convinced me of its requirement for His people & its eternal consequences. From that background Id like to share what God revealed to me through firstly A) His Word, and secondly B.) 8 amazing testimonies of encounters with Jesus in Heaven & Hell where tithing is raised as an important eternal issue - TAKE HEED - http://christiscoming777./2012/03/02/tithing-is-it-required-and-are-there-eternal-consequences-for-non-tithing/

^^^^

lies.

You may have been promoted to become a pastor that is why you want to collect your own tiths.

Tith is not for christians but for the Jewish system.

Sweetnecta: @truthislight: What are you talking about? Please explain.


All my nigerian friends who are not muslims have girlfriends. No muslim I know has a girlfriend. I guess Muhammad [sa] ha trained us well. I dont have a girlfriend like the rest of the muslims.


explain the bold. Unless you are also lying as you lied upon the messenger [sa]. And I have no problem with you continuing your lies.


It is Muhammad [sa] by his Lord that I have not performed fraudulent act because fraud and nigeria are two beans in a pod. So how am I a bad person when Muhammad [sa] has improved me?


I run by private life based on Islam so much so that I do not get involve in interest based business. So tell me how "rot standards good and right how silly a rationale" i am? I think i am reading you well.


Remember it is you and your kind that started the thread to badmouth Muhammad [sa]. I just responded, pointing to you how reality is in Nigeria and among Nigerians since this is a "nigerian site" you said.


unless you are in a jungle, the below is a site from which you can read Quran in english: http://quran.com/

so you dont know what calling black white and white black is?

Then why should i expect honesty from you.

Your desires has blinded you.

Why go further on this with you.

"Like father like son"

ijawkid: @plaetton ......its obvious u got this whole hogwash from the internet.......

U aint even sure of what u wrote.....its just copy and paste..........

It might surprise u to read scriptures that Jesus quoted that reffered to Yahweh as the only true GOD.......

It might also interest u to read Jesus's reply to the sameritan woman @ d well side......Jesus iterated to her whom the Jews and he himself worshipped and served......

All what u wrote up there is just 1 of those means atheists like urself use to refute d existence of the living most high ,YAHWEH......

Better re-trace ur steps back to Yahweh....

His great day is soon to come......

plaeton has just been confuse the more since the Roman catholics have ordered the removal of Yahweh name from the bible.

As such he is now a pon in there hands.

I will not go into detail on this with plaeton on this, you are free to accept whatever you want.

Wishing him the Best in his endeavours.
Peace

plaetton: There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Jews or hebrew descendants worshiping their tribal god Yahweh.

But when a dark skinned African adopts the ancient racist hebrew god as his saviour and key to eternal life, thats when we know that someone has been messing with and has really messed up our brains.

this are your personal opinions.

Or are you a God also?

Or wiki has turn to your God?

plaetton: Christians know sooooo little about Judaism.
Once upon a time lady who came to preach to me told me that she had never heard of a religion called Judaism. And she was a graduate.
If you ever take time to study Judaism or talk with a Jewish Rabbi, they would tell you that Ashera was the consort of Yahweh, Baal was Yahweh's son and lilith yahweh's daughter whom the isrealites reffered to as the queen of heaven.

They worshipped Ashera and lilith, the queen of heaven in order for the two to intercede on their behalf in tempering the ire of Yahweh.
Ashera, Baal, and Lilith were integral parts of ancient hebrew religion.

In the bible, we see conflicts between the Yahwehist and the worshippers of Baal and Ashera. It is no surprise that Jezebel, priestess of Ashera, is greatly maligned by the yahwehist scribes.

It is also no surpise that we see prophet Elijah, A Yahwehist champion, launch genocidal religious massacre against the priests of Baal, which is perhaps, the world's first documented case of religious intolerance. So the Boko haram mindset is not entirely new.

from your knowledge of the bible this other gods or demons are from where?

Are they not former angels turned demons?

Who created all the Angels? Is it not Yahweh?

So, cant it be said that they were sons of Yahweh?

At this point you should know what trinity is, a confusion.

All spirit creatures are in God form and they are term as God to humans.

Since the disobedient ones are determined to obscure the almighty God that is why we are were we are now.

Yahweh wants to show Who really the true God is.

plaetton: Oh bros, thank you thank you. So people actually notice these underhand tricks in the bible?
From Elohim to God, then to the lord, then to the Lord God and finally to God Almighty. These are carefully planned tricks intended to decieve the reader into thinking that the bible was refering to just one entity.

In the bible today, you cannot find Adonai, El-shadai, El-Elyon, Elohim etc because the wise men, who seem to be smarter than god, have completely edited out all these dieties from the bible and replaced them with "The lord".
What excactly for, if not for hiding the very obvious fact that the Isrealites did not practice monotheism as is pupported?.

there is nothing to hide,

You dont have the whole facts that is why you fall for that lie.

I pity you folks.

Sun of god: I normally dont comment in the religion section but i'll make the exception here.

If you open the bible to the book of genesis the first chapter talks constantly about 'God' and his work.

From chapter 2 you'll notice that it switches to the 'Lord God' - These 2 entities are not the same!

God created man (chapter 1) and the 'lord God' formed Adam (chapter 2).

The 'Lord God' formed 'Adam' and gave him commandments. One of them was not to eat from the tree of knowledge or he would shorely die. The entity refered to as the 'Serpent' told Eve that the 'Lord God' was lying and that if she ate of the tree her eyes would be open and she would become wise with knowledge and know the difference between good and evil.

When Eve ate of the tree what happened? Did she die or were her eyes open?

The 'Serpent' was telling the truth and the 'Lord God' was exposed as a liar! (Note: The Serpent is not the Devil - or it would have been called the devil). The serpent was then cursed by 'the lord' for exposing his lies and the lord god banished adam and eve from the garden to prevent them from accessing the tree of life which would have enabled them to become immortals.

The 'lord god' is the God of the hebrews - Jesus made the comment that they were of their father the devil who was a liar from the begining - Seems he knew the 'Lord God' of the old testament was actually the devil.

Anyway, Jesus was executed for calling himself the 'Son of the Living God' and not the son of the 'Lord God' aka the god of the hebrews/Isralites.

now we know that Adam died withing the 1000years = 1day of Yahweh who was the liar that Jesus was talking about?

Was it not satan?

People like you only thrives were there is no light and were darkness reigns.

Sorry to bust you bubbles.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Exactly I see your point. Sun_of_god and Mr Sun_of_god are two different people.[/quote]which point did you see?

As a christian dont you think you should do better than this?

Are you helping people with the truth or you are destroying their faith?

Sun of god: I normally dont comment in the religion section but i'll make the exception here.

If you open the bible to the book of genesis the first chapter talks constantly about 'God' and his work.

From chapter 2 you'll notice that it switches to the 'Lord God' - These 2 entities are not the same!

God created man (chapter 1) and the 'lord God' formed Adam (chapter 2).

The 'Lord God' formed 'Adam' and gave him commandments. One of them was not to eat from the tree of knowledge or he would shorely die. The entity refered to as the 'Serpent' told Eve that the 'Lord God' was lying and that if she ate of the tree her eyes would be open and she would become wise with knowledge and know the difference between good and evil.

When Eve ate of the tree what happened? Did she die or were her eyes open?

The 'Serpent' was telling the truth and the 'Lord God' was exposed as a liar! (Note: The Serpent is not the Devil - or it would have been called the devil). The serpent was then cursed by 'the lord' for exposing his lies and the lord god banished adam and eve from the garden to prevent them from accessing the tree of life which would have enabled them to become immortals.

The 'lord god' is the God of the hebrews - Jesus made the comment that they were of their father the devil who was a liar from the begining - Seems he knew the 'Lord God' of the old testament was actually the devil.

Anyway, Jesus was executed for calling himself the 'Son of the Living God' and not the son of the 'Lord God' aka the god of the hebrews/Isralites.

^^^^
Ignorance is a disease,

if you even read your bible well with an honest heart you will have noted at 2peter 3:8 and psalm 90:4 that a day to Yahweh is = 1000yrs with man.

The sun that we turn around that determine our night and day is it the same sun that Yahweh uses to count his own time?

adam lived 900 and years not up to 1000years and as such he did not lived up to a day.

This is infact the reason the info in the bible is hidden so that dishonest heart cant make sense of it.

You just came here and expose your ignorance/foolishness.

In the book of Revelation 20:1-3

the identity of the serpent is opened up in Revelation and so are other scriptures that does same.

Why not go and read the bible well and come back next time, maybe you will make more sense.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]This is why I say I don't know the trinity doctrine because there are many understandings of it. What I know is that the nature of God is Trinity. Jesus Christ is the exact manifestation of who God is - in the flesh.[/quote]guy is anyone forcing you to use the word "trinity"?

Or is it you longing for acceptance that keep you on it?

The fear of God and the fear of men which should we have the more?

Joagbaje: church money does not belong to the pastors. most pastors have their own jobs and businesses. except Some, like the G.O. or others who God may not allow to work by the reason of their increasing responsibilities. most denominations send men with good job into pastoring. he gives his tithe or offerings like everyone else. so who is duping who? ministry is responsibility.

tithing is not for christians but was exclusively a jewish thing.

That a church tith is a fraud at it best and shows a lack of regard for God and his new arragement.

What do you think was the light load Jesus was talking about when inviting people and saying:

"come to me all you that are toiling and heavy laden and i shall give you rest, my LOAD is LIGHT"

you fraudstars should better change and have a life.

Why will the apostle paul be a tenth maker if he was a tith collector?

Who is a general overseer?
Is he working harder than paul?

Paul travelled all around asia minor on foot and boat without the benefit of modern transport yet still make tenth(work) to feed himself, then you say that this greedy fraudstars overseer are having more responsibility.

Must their responsibility call for tith?

Why not free willing donation?

Joagbaje: are you afraid of me?

hahaha

am not afraid of you.

and sorry for the "shut up".

i just hate exploitation.

We can at least speak out against lies.

If people learn to call a sped-a sped then we will begin to discourage evil around us.
Peace

Pastor Kun: Granted modern day tithing as it is preached today is a fraud but why shd it be of such concern to an atheist?

they have help many see the lies and fraud.

though they also need help themself.

Goshen360: I have seen/heard about ALL KINDS of SEED SOWING in my lifetime stipulated by some/many MoG but never mentioned in the bible that I can't mention them all.

true

musKeeto: Why are you fighting against Biblical principles? Why not mind your business? For me, I choose to believe the pastors words and that's what works for me...

hellooooooo!

Joagbaje: So do you know more than God? Are they not quoting Gods word?

will you shut up.

^^^^

guy, does it take extra long post to defend Muhamed?

You guys are not using you full mental capacity then,

that is why you just copy and pest.

This is sickening.