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Christianity EtcRe: Fake ''truthman2013'' Is Out. by truthman2012(op): 12:59pm On Jul 29, 2015
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IslamRe: Muslims The Best Of Mankind ? by truthman2012(op): 12:58pm On Jul 29, 2015
truthman2013:
...the verse didn't say muslim are wicked, stop giving it your own interpretation.
Fake truthman2013!

What is your own interpretation?
IslamRe: Muslims The Best Of Mankind ? by truthman2012(op): 11:02am On Jul 29, 2015
alienvirus:
No time for rigmarole. You rick of bull5hit
Trash!

You cannot answer the questions.
Christianity EtcFake ''truthman2013'' Is Out. by truthman2012(op): 10:52am On Jul 29, 2015
As the muslims fake the original message of God, which they call the quran, a muslim on nairaland has faked my username. He calls his own ''truthman2013'' to fake mine - ''truthman2012'' to cause confusion.

Nairalanders beware!
Christianity EtcRe: Al Taqquiya by truthman2012(m): 10:46am On Jul 29, 2015
truthman2013:
You are the greatest of all LAIR. Even the devil is scared of you.

I am here to burst your lies.
cool
Muslims with their fake identity just like the quran tries to fake the bible.

You opened a username ''truthman2013'' to copy (mine), original ''truthman2012'' Muslims copy Christians' songs, copy Christians' way of preaching etc. Why don't come to the original?

Don't you have shame? I must have been affecting your religion.

Now, what are the lies in the OP as all referensce are from your quran? Point them out.
IslamRe: Muslims The Best Of Mankind ? by truthman2012(op): 10:30am On Jul 29, 2015
tartar9:
who said you are Jesus followers huh
Dodging the questions!

Who are Jesus followers?

Whoever Jesus followers are, they are the best of mankind, not WICKED Muhammad's followers.
Christianity EtcRe: Al Taqquiya by truthman2012(m): 9:39am On Jul 29, 2015
Jagoon:
This explains why nairaland sunni muslims lie so much and they do it so confidently. But the question is why should one believe in a religion that asks you to tell lies to defend it huh is that not a major red flag that it is a false 419 religion? cc demmzy15 and other muslim liars
The devil is a liar and the father of those who lie.
For you are the children of your
father the devil, and you love to
do the evil things he does. He was
a murderer from the beginning.
He has always HATED the TRUTH,
because there is no truth in him.
When he LIES, it is consistent with
his character; for he is a LIAR and
the father of LIES (John 8:44).

A god that enjoins his worshiper to lie is the devil.
IslamRe: Muslims The Best Of Mankind ? by truthman2012(op): 8:35am On Jul 29, 2015
alienvirus:
Sorry, Quran was not talking about today;s Christians but earlier Isa followers with pristine Injeel, before Islam.

Today's Christians have messed up the Injeel with different versions.

Gat dat wink
Why not answer all the questions?

When was the Injeel messed up as it was authentic at Muhammad's time? Quran 5:47 says: Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers.

If it was messed up, would allah still recommend it?
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 8:25am On Jul 29, 2015
lexiconkabir:
you are the biggest rodent of all! i have refuted the op's claims, how cum you did not ask parisbookaddict not to derail the thread when she asked multiple questions? how deceptful! oh because you dont have answers? trying to run? coward!
How ''cum''

Heh! heh!! heh!!!

Laughing at you in Spanish.
IslamMuslims The Best Of Mankind ? by truthman2012(op):
[Quran 3:110] Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah......

How true is that quranic verse vis-a-vis the following:

[Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are HARD against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves......

Are best of people HARD against their fellow humans?

Here is allah's testimony concerning the Christians:

[Quran 57:27] Then We made Our messengers to follow in their footsteps, and We sent Isa son of Marium afterwards, and We gave him the Injeel, and We put in the hearts of those who followed him KINDNESS and MERCY.........

Which of the two groups are supposed to be the best of mankind, the wicked or the merciful?

Is it the same God who sent a prophet whose followers are MERCIFUL and the one whose followers are WICKED?

Why would God now prefer the WICKED and replace the MERCIFUL with the WICKED, if something is not wrong somewhere?
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 9:11pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:
Leave the stage my friend, you are the least intelligent muslim on this forum.

It is you who said 'FIGHT' does not mean 'KILL' and when I showed you Quran 8:12 where allah commanded muslims to STRIKE OFF people's HEADS and FINGERS, you said the quran was EDITED. Blind islamic defender.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 9:02pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
old man why are you this foolish?? trying to use tactics of adhominem? try harder, dont beg me to leave the stage, BTW whats the meaning of this mystery TRINITY?.
You guys lack intelligence. If you are a young man reasoning this way, by the time you are old, there will be nothing more remaining in your head.

Old age is a virtue and not a vice, but because you guys reason upside down, you think it is a vice. It is the grace of God to grow old as none of is sure of getting old. Is your father a young boy? Smh!
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 8:36pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
subhanallah, you need to go back to ss2 also cuz it seems you havent heard of royal we, how come i've got many dunce here?? hey dont divert, you asked for a verse, i gave you, then you are thinking of a way to divert? how deceptful, you should be ashamed of yourself, christianity is a baseless religion .Thats my conclusion
Leave the stage my friend, you are the least intelligent muslim on this forum.

It is you who said 'FIGHT' does not mean 'KILL' and when I showed you Quran 8:12 where allah commanded muslims to STRIKE OFF people's HEADS and FINGERS, you said the quran was EDITED. Blind islamic defender.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 8:21pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
if you can teach english as you claim old fool, how come you havent heard of royal we in english??
Tell us where any King addressed himself/herself as 'WE'.

If men use royal 'WE', was allah a human king copying English people?
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 8:13pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@jagoon For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word(son), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.(1john 5:7 king james bible), what can we deduce from this verse? 1. They are 3 people patnering in heaven 2. They keep record in heaven about their creations 3. Jesus is the word(son) . What does all these spell to? TRINITY my dunce friend, hey! did you say you dont believe in trinity? you are failure to your faith, trinity is in your bible and you dont even know it, you should be ashamed of yourself my dunce friend wink
There are three that bear record in al-jannah: allah, Gabriel and Muhammad, hence the use of the word 'WE'.

The al-jannah where you have 72 virgins waiting for you is not the heaven of the true God.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 8:08pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
go back to ss2 and ask your english teacher.
Trash!

What has this got to do with English? It shows how intelligent you are. Smh!

Your English is the worst on this forum. I can teach your English teacher if that was what he/she taught you.
IslamRe: Muslims: Can You Clear These? by truthman2012(op):
dolphinheart:
No Muslim yet to answer my questions?
It has been long you asked the questions, can you repeat them so that new readers will be able to see without searching?
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 8:41pm On Jul 27, 2015
malvisguy212:
you are very correct. May God open their eyes to see the truth.
A big a men.
IslamRe: Muslims: Can You Clear These? by truthman2012(op): 4:16pm On Jul 27, 2015
dolphinheart:
Can anyone answer my questions now?
I doubt if any of them will attempt them. They run away from such questions, pretending they have answered them before in another thread. Lie! To give a link to the thread, they cannot.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 4:10pm On Jul 27, 2015
malvisguy212:
then, they will have to explained, if Allah and his crew bestow his/their spirit on Mary.
There is the satanic trinity in islam, comprising allah, Jubril and Muhammad. I think that is why they use 'WE'.

The Hindus have three gods as their trinity yet they recognise Muhammad as a prophet because they serve the same deity.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 9:59am On Jul 27, 2015
malvisguy212:
christians believe in ONE God, as a muslims can you explained why the quran adress Allah using plurality?
They will tell you it is a 'royal word'.

Where did they get that lie from? No king would address himself as 'WE'.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 9:54am On Jul 27, 2015
tintingz:
Recycle questions.
Op try harder eh.
undecided
Where?
And what was your answer then?
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 9:52am On Jul 27, 2015
Rilwayne001:
Foolish old man!

Stop begging me to engage you in a futile arguement...
Heh! heh!! heh!!!

Laughing at your inability to defend the OP. Wouldn't you drop your false religion?
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 8:18pm On Jul 26, 2015
true2god:
You need a drug to cure you of islamic and arab cancer.
This is serious!

He needs healing.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 5:16pm On Jul 26, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@parisbookaddict @truthman2012 @true2god to settle this, who is up for a debate?
Debate with you?

No, you didn't display good enough intelligence. I must tell you the truth, your posts are infuriating.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 1:16pm On Jul 26, 2015
lexiconkabir:
did you click on the site? verily you did not, cuz if u did would understand why that verse was revealed.
The point is not ''why'' the verse was revealed. The point is: it is not supposed to be revealed.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 1:10pm On Jul 26, 2015
"e author=lexiconkabir post=36285508] it is even in the bible at zephaniah 3:9(king james version) "for then i will turn to the people a PURE LANGUAGE, so they may all call upon the name of the lord, to serve him in one consent" we muslims serve our LORD in one language arabic but the reverse is the case for christians[/quote]"

Which language is the PURE LANGUAGE? Arabic? Nonsense! What makes Arabic pure?

What the bible is talking about is purity of words of God's people. People who would not say foul words. People who would not curse, abuse or say vain words.

Look at the interpretation of that verse:

New American Standard: Bible
"For then I will give to the peoples, PURIFIED LIPS,that all of them may
call on the name of the LORD, To
serve Him shoulder to shoulder.

New Living Translation
"Then I will purify the SPEECH OF ALL PEOPLE, so that everyone can
worship the LORD together.

Abraham and his family were living in Israel and their language was not Arabic. Therefore, Arabic was not the language of Ishmael. He learnt it from the pagans who resided with them in Mecca, according to islamic tradition. Is that your PURE LANGUAGE?

ISHMAEL LEARNT ARABIC:

.........''The
child (i.e. Ishmael) grew up
and LEARNT ARABIC from them
and (his virtues) caused them
to love and admire him as he
grew up, and when he reached
the age of puberty they made
him marry a woman from
amongst them [Sahih
Bukhari 4.583 ]
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 12:17pm On Jul 26, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@truthman2012 and @true2god, maybe you click on this link to get the proper answer why these verses about fights were revealed, www.islam101.com/terror/verse8_12.htm this should do, if you really wanna understand.
Honestly, I can cope with the way you reason. When I have shown you from the quran and you saw ''STRIKE OFF THEIR HEAD, SLAY THEM'', you are still arguing 'FIGHT' doesn't mean KILL. Your quranic interpretation is VERY terrible.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 9:41am On Jul 26, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@truthman2012 , i never said all hadiths are fabricated(my fault i wasnt composed yesterday), instead i said we have different classes of hadith, among which we have the authentic and fabricated, the hadith you gave on islam getting its root from pagans is a fabricated hadith(i can prove that if u want, tho ave done that before) and the hadith given on this thread, where the prophet of Allah is being command to fight and preach against the disbelievers is authentic. now when i said fight i know your mind will go to swords, gun and all that, but no. To get a clearer picture of what fight means there is; if i say fight yourself against lies, does that mean you should kill yourself when you lie? No, but it means STRIVE hard to make sure ur lies are being reduced or stop it totally. I hope i made myself understood this time, if not please tell me.
I don't think you are composed today as well because this thread is not talking about islam as paganism. This is already settled and readers would have taken their stand.

FIGHT means WAR. If the US is said to be fighting in Iraq, what are they saying?

Look at this quranic verses again:

[Quran 8:12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast TERROR into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore STRIKE OFF their heads and STRIKE OFF every fingertip of them.

That is start of islamic terrorism.

Quran 9:5] Then, when the sacred months have passed, SLAY the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Allah commanded the muslims to kill people after he had said it was not his WILL to make the whole earth believe in him and that Muhammad should not COMPEL anybody. Why is your allah so inconsistent, changing his words as soon as revealed?

You know what? Regular posters who try to defend islam could not come forth to refute this OP but you, who is just saying anything. You even said the quran is edited.

Please stop posting and let Rilwayne001, who seems to be the best liar among muslims here come forward. Thank you.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 9:14pm On Jul 25, 2015
lexiconkabir:
i have said it before and i will say it here, since you are blind to see that i have answered the question. there is no historical fact that the pagans did tawaf, that verse was wrongly edited and as 4 d hadith, firstly hadith is the sayings and actions of muhammad(s.a.w), there are 4 categories of hadiths. authentic, good, weak and fabricated, the hadith given that talked about islam getting roots from pagans is a fabricated hadith, because there is no valid narrator and it is not an historical fact, i hope this makes sense to u.
Muslims term as fabricated or weak any hadith that exposes the true nature of islam. This is self deception. If it is not to be used, why is it on record?

Are you saying that particular hadith is fabricated or weak? Prove.

If hadith is fabricated or weak according to you, is the quran also fabricated or weak? Did I hear you say the quran is edited? Edited by who and for what?

Now, look at the other translations of the quran:

Shakir 10:99] And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers?

[Pickthal 10:99] And if thy Lord willed, all who are in the earth would have believed together. Wouldst thou (Muhammad) compel men until they are believers?

[Yusufali 10:99] If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, AGAINST THEIR WILL to believe?

[Shakir 10:99] And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers?

Shakir 10:100] And it is not for a soul to believe except by Allah's permission; and He casts uncleanness on those who will not understand.

[Pickthal 10:100] It is not for any soul to believe save by the permission of Allah. He hath set uncleanness upon those who have no sense.

[Yusufali 10:100] No soul can believe, except by the will of Allah, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand.

So to you, all of the above translators edited the quran and the whole islamic world stands looking at allah's words being CORRUPTED.

Now, give me another translation that says something different and that can be verified.

Your reasoning and the defence you put up are that of a small boy. Please leave the stage.
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 7:58pm On Jul 25, 2015
lexiconkabir:
dont u undestand? i said the verse you brought out that from was wrongly interpreted to put d ignorant muslims into state of confusion nd also 2 give people lyk u the chance to speak ill about islam, i hope he understands this tym
How does this answer the simplified questions?

What is wrongly interpreted? How do you interpret these in your own version?

1. [Sahih Muslim 1:33]: The
Messenger of Allah said: "I have
been commanded to FIGHT against
people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, that
Muhammad is the messenger of
Allah, and they establish prayer
and pay zakat."

2. [Qur'an (9:29] - " FIGHT those who
believe not in Allah nor the Last
Day, nor hold that forbidden
which hath been forbidden by
Allah and His Messenger, nor
acknowledge the religion of
Truth, (even if they are) of the
People of the Book, until they pay
the Jizya with willing submission,
and feel themselves subdued.

All the above after allah had said:

Quran 10:99 Pickthal] And if thy Lord willed, all who are in the earth would have believed together. Wouldst thou (Muhammad) COMPEL men until they are believers?

No soul can believe, except by the will of Allah and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand.
[Qur'an 10:100]
IslamRe: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(op): 7:44pm On Jul 25, 2015
lexiconkabir:
swear by what u believe dat u picked these verses from the quran urself undecided and hey! you did not answer my question, do you believe in one God as in the first commandment? if yes which God is that?
The bible does not permit Christians to swear. You accussed me of copying the thread from somewhere, it is a surprise that you could not give the link where you read it before.

Your question doesn't have any relevance to the OP.

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