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Demmzy15:
Your problem is that, you like making mouth. Instead of you wasting your time on Nairaland, go take care of your grandchildren.

lexiconkabir:
sorry to say, but i dont think you comprehend quickly, please read my answer again lyk we did in secondary school comprehension passages. wait! did u say u've not read anything about the topic? arent u d same person dat posted dis topic

mustymatic:
You worship man and his mother not God

lexiconkabir:
sorry to say, but i dont think you comprehend quickly, please read my answer again lyk we did in secondary school comprehension passages. wait! did u say u've not read anything about the topic? arent u d same person dat posted dis topic

lexiconkabir:
alryt truthman, this is the ansa to this thread; permit me to say u copied and
pasted, and the person u
copied and pasted from translated
the verses wrongly!!! but this time i
would let u find out the true
meanings urself, and oh yes dont you know that God has the power
to do all things? he is the all-knower, the pardoner, the merciful,
the sustainer, and so on. he has
the power to make u believe and
vice versa, not that he will lead u astray! but your deeds will lead u astray and who put disbelieve in
mens heart? shaytan(satan). in nutshell, dont copy and paste, do the research ur self, i have a question 4 my christian friends, do u believe in one God as it is in the
first commandment? if yes which God do u believe in?

lexiconkabir:
did u read the continuation of my thread of where i talked about the hadiths u just used?? if no then go nd check again, mind u research again and know that david wood invented the lie "muslim and paganism"

Demmzy15:
You guys have started again ba?

lexiconkabir:
continue reading after the link i gave, dat is an answer to this thread.

lexiconkabir:
i made a typo error it should be "my" not "may", therefore that was my thread, well i opened a new thread cuz ur thread was kind of derailed, and my reply here is the answer to this current thread, BTW can u answer the question i asked?

lexiconkabir:
op, i hope u saw may thread answering ur thread? if not, click on it now. www.nairaland.com/2475175/answers-thread-muslims-clear-these concerning ur current thread, permit to say u copied and pasted cuz again the person u copied and pasted from translated the verses wrongly!!! but this time i would let u find out the true meanings urself, and oh yes dont you know that God has the power to do all things? he is the all-knower, the pardoner, the merciful, the sustainer, and so on. he has the power to make u believe and vice versa, not that he will lead u astray! but your deeds will lead u astray and who put disbelieve in mens heart? shaytan(satan). in nutshell, dont copy and paste, do the research ur self, i have a question 4 my christian friends, do u believe in one God as it is in the first commandment? if yes which God do u believe in?

Jagoon:
Islam is satan's religion. The bible tells us that satan is a deceiver and allah confesses to being a deceiver in the quoran.

Cutehector:
If allah as d muslims say is God and we christains believ in God too, why are they fightn us?

That means allah is not the God we christains worship..

Demmzy15:
It doesn't matter whether it was divinely commanded to Hagar, Hagar did it and God asked Muslims to do it as a commemoration of sacrifice by Hagar. Not that she was bowing to some idol, but running between two mountains looking for water.

Just like in Christian pilgrimage, many activities are done in which have no divinely proves. Safa and Marwah was legislated to the Muslims.

dolphinheart:
No one to reply me with answers to my questions?

Demmzy15:
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Demmzy15:
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Demmzy15:
If I didn't answer your questions, then go back and see my replies to others on this thread. You aren't making any sense, you want me to keep repeating myself. When I refute, you come again and ask the same question in another form. Guy leave me alone.

Demmzy15:
Lmaooooo! Old man is already conceding defeat!

Jagoon aka jargons I no get ya time u hear?!

truthman2012:
@Demmzy15

Trash!

Paste the answers to those questions here and let people see. Liar.

As for your Christianity and paganism, post it here backing your claim from Christian sources like I did for slam and not from non-Christian perspectives. I hereby challenge you to do it.

Rilwayne001:
Does God Tempts?


"And it came to pass after these things, that God did TEMPT Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

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Is Earth supported?
JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.


Is Heaven supported too?

JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.

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How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?

2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was EIGHTEEN years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was EIGHT years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

Demmzy15:


But you're free to abuse my God and Prophet right? Guy no vex me fa!


Mr. Man go back to the replies given by the Muslims on this post. It's clear, unambiguous!


Trash! If I start with paganism and Christianity, wallahi you go enter ground.

Demmzy15:
The answer to your questions were properly answered throughout this thread, you claim to be an old man but your brain is so primitive. Stop claiming boss, you've been exposed already.


Call it whatever you like or whatever you want, that doesn't prove anything. Continue worshipping your cross!


Like I said earlier, you're primitive. What did the Jews do when Moses was away? You have to be sincere with yourself, stop takkiyah. When Moses was with God, the Jews indulged in idol worship, the bible didn't pay attention to the those who remained with God.


Ohh! Really? Let's see your pathetic explanations.


Read my previous post, it's very simple and self explanatory.


Grandpa, how many years were you weaned?


You're yet to prove that, you're just beating round the Bush. You're defeated!


Did the verse stop in 14? Continue now, by the way translation I used was the "New Revised Standard Version of the Bible which was compiled from manuscripts more ancient than those of the King James Version of the Bible." So you could go further and see if indeed it fits a baby or a teenage.


Lmaooooo! See who is talking, better study your religion first before jumping into Islam.


The emboldened explains it all.


But a 17year old neither can be placed on a shoulder nor be lifted up by his mother except if he's a retard which is not so.

NOTE: This issue of Ishmael's age came about when Rilwayne001 posted an hadith explaining your gibberish thread. You then tried to disprove by using the bible which is not so because we don't hold the bible as a confirmation for the Quran and hadith. When the Quran contradicts the bible, that doesn't prove anything rather than the bible is incorrect. The hadith stated Ishmael was a baby when his mum was in the wilderness, so I don't need the bible to confirm this for me.

Demmzy15:
Of course the modified bible would want you to believe this, but reverse is the case.


@emboldened this is to show that the reason Ishmael was sent away wasn't because he mocked but another different reason entirely which is a command by God. Ishmael was 14years when Isaac was born, and Isaac was weaned for about 2-3 years which then shows that Ishmael was 17years old during the "alleged" mockery.

When Hagar was about to embark on the journey with Ishmael, a striking description is made in which doesn't fit a teenager but rather an infant. Let's see:

[b]"14 So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on [size=14pt]her shoulder, along with the child,[/size] and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered about in the wilderness of Beer-sheba. 15 When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the child under one of the bushes. 16 Then she went and sat down opposite him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said, "Do not let me look on the death of the child." And as she sat opposite him, she lifted up her voice and wept. 17 And God heard the voice of the boy; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, "What troubles you, Hagar? Do not be afraid; for God has heard the voice of the boy where he is. 18 Come, lift up the boy and hold him fast [size=14pt]with your hand,[/size] for I will make a great nation of him." 19 Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water. She went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the boy a drink.[/b] Genesis 21:14-19

NOTE:
1. In Genesis 21:14,does it make sense that Abraham put a 17year old boy on his mother's shoulder? My junior brother is 17years and he's already bigger, taller than my parents talk more of my mother. Those this show a teenager or a child?

2. In Genesis 21:15, how can Hagar "cast" a teenager into the "bush" for him to rest? This scenario is like a women cooking good and she places her child probably on a shade or somewhere the child won't disturb her. So how can this verse point to a teenager?

3. We read in Genesis 21:16 that Hagar sat far away from Ishmael so as not to see him die before her own eyes. Is this the profile of a full-grown teenager who should, more appropriately be worried about his mother or of a helpless baby?

4. In Genesis 21:17, how can Hagar lift a 17year old boy with her hands? It'll make more sense that Ishmael lifts up Hagar rather than Hagar lifts him up!

5. In Genesis 21:20 we read that after this incident, "God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer." Is this a profile of a fully developed teenager or a child who is growing up, learning, and developing?


You're sounding like a Pained nigga, stop throwing tantrums and read. When you were 17years old in the 1960s, could your mother carry you on her shoulder?


Lol, if we're talking about paganism in any religion it's Christianity. So now go back and read the post of Rilwayne001, it's clear and simple. No ambiguous words were used, even a child will understand perfectly.

malvisguy212:
(1) Both Hindu and Muslim male
devotees are required to shave their
heads during their pilgrimage.
(2) And similar to their Hindu counterparts, male Muslim pilgrims are
also required to dress in a garment
consisting of two sheets of white cloth.
This type of garment is known as Dhoti in Hinduism.
(3) Just as the worshippers of Shiva
observe a rite in which they walk around their object of reverence seven times,Muslim pilgrims also walk around the Ka’ba seven times.
(4) Both their objects of reverence are
Black Stones. In Hinduism, the Black
Stone is known as Shiva lingam.
(5) While Hindus drink water from the
Ganga River as part of the sacred rites in their worship of Shiva, Muslims drink
from the Well of Zamzam during the
Hajj.
(6) Additionally, the Crescent moon, which is associated with the Hindu deity
Shiva, is also a symbol for Islam. In the
Hindu portrayal of the Shiva symbol, the crescent moon is always painted across his forehead. Moreover, in every
portrayal of Shiva, there is always a
depiction of a snake curled around his
neck. Weirdly, in pre-Islamic times, Allah is supposed to have sent a snake to guard the treasures of the Ka’ba.

[b]Narrated Ibn Abbas (radhi Allahu anhu):Ismail's mother went on suckling Ismail and drinking from the water (she had). When the water in the water-skin had all been used up,she became thirsty and her child also became thirsty.She started looking at him (i.e. Ismail) tossing in agony.She left him,for she could not endure looking at him,and found that the mountain of Safa was the nearest mountain to her on that land.
She stood on it and started looking at the valley keenly so that she might see somebody,but she could not see anybody. Then she descended from Safa and when she reached the valley,she tucked up her robe and ran in the valley like a person in distress and trouble,till she crossed the valley and reached the Marwa mountain where she stood and started looking, expecting to see somebody,but she could not see anybody.

She repeated that (running between Safa and Marwa) seven times.The Prophet said:This is the source of the tradition of the walking of people between them (i.e. Safa and Marwa)[Sahih Bukhari Book# 55, Hadith# 583]. [/b]

Demmzy15:
Copy copy!

Rilwayne001:

Quran 2v158

Surely, al-Safa and al-Marwah are the symbols of Allah. Hence, whoever performs Hajj (Full Pilgrimage) to the House (of Allah) or makes 'Umrah (Minor Pilgrimage), will find that it is no sin for him to ambulate between the two.158 And whoever does a good work voluntarily159 should know that Allah is Appreciative, All-Knowing.

parisbookaddict:
Once again u have nothing to say...only insults in defense of a fraudulent peadophile mohammed.

Millions have rejected islam after the truth was brought to them and they let common sense and facts prevail.

If u dont leave islam , its likely ur kids will ...islam used to be a huge force in africa and arabic was ubiquitous, today it is a sad story for islam in africa....... so enjoy ur folly if it pleases u..