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fairheart:
An intellectual with an honest view on a subject would not interpret a statement out of context, but look at it objectively within the context such statement has been used.
He quoted a sentence that I used in a context of what I was talking about. More so, look at the example you applied the quote to. Isn't that ridiculous and shows that you just didn't like the quote and not because the quote was invalid or not true? You can't wait for his wife because his wife belong to him; you don't deserve his wife because you have your own wife. Don't be a cheat.
If you really think the quote is not necessarily true as much as it sounds nice, give me a better and reasonable example. Your example here is as ridiculous as the way you see the quote.

And that quote was originally mine.

The problem here is your ego...

Your point was well made, it did not need an unnecessary quote that didn’t even sound logical WITHIN the context of what you wrote. Waiting does not mean what you’re waiting for is legitimately yours.

It’s ok to be pragmatic... everyone is free to wait 8 months until covid is over to get to start their educational program... the school is free to decide NOT to maintain their RA because funny enough, you’re not the only one waiting... and others are praying just as hard as you are. By all means wait, but always be prepped with plan B and the capacity to accept disappointment gracefully.

But by all means... type another senseless screed for your fans.

Ehizy007:
Apt!


The ability to "wait" when we can't wait to have what we want, is one of the biggest signs that we actually deserve what we want!

So if I wait patiently for your wife, it is a sign confirming that I deserve her?

Sorry but I have to laugh at our predilection for thinking every statement that sounds nice is necessarily true.

EliteBiz:
You need to be calm and think critically and realize that the world is been deceived. The foundations of this earth we are living on is firm and immovable. The Ancient are aware of this. Infact, they have more understanding and knowledge than this present age.

You need to use that phone in your hand to start searching for truth so that you can start seeing the lies of the world you are living in.

You need to realize that education, science, google, government, Media, Nasa, Entertainment, Religion and all other major corporation will go to any length to make sure you are not awaken to the real truth, the real you, the real capabilities and potentials you have as mankind (the only creation that was given dominion on earth by The Most High).

You need to start asking questions and thinking critically.

"The truth is always hidden from the masses"

You need to realize that NASA is just acting movies for the World. We are currently living in a generation with the highest dumb individuals, sadly.

Think!

Shalom

The bible doesn't describe a flat earth...

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

mvem:
the problem is those with assistantship... Will their funding still be intact because not all schools are saying same thing with this regard...I think the best is to discuss with the department and graduate school to find a buffer and common ground that will benefit both parties...some uni accept differing to spring and ensures that your funding is intact some don't give that option but requesting you enter the pool again...these pandemic created a scenario that many schools are foreign to

There is no "common ground" to be had. Simply defer your admission. Except in cases where the tuition waiver is granted as a fellowship (no work required to maintain tuition waiver), then they cannot simply grant you an RA if you are not physically present.

adelawry:
Hello,

Pls if you got admitted into University of Louisiana at Lafayette for Fall 2020.

Kindly send a PM.

I got admitted with Funding and my supervisor who is also the graduate coordinator has just mailed to confirm my visa and flight status on or before 3rd August else my assistantship would be transferred to another student as class commences 17th August.

I’m nonplussed at the moment. I have mailed the office of international students of my school and they directed me to the guidelines for new students on their website where I read - I can keep my tuition waiver while outside the US but not my graduate assistantship. This made me relaxed a little until I got the mail from the coordinator this morning. The problem now is the RA I got came with tuition waiver.
I don’t know what to say to the coordinator and I have to respond. I’ve never been more confused.

Unfortunately there is not much you can do. At best you should consider deferring your admission. They cannot grant you an RA if you are unable to be present on campus and someone else is in the position to take up the opportunity. You may be able to re-apply for the RA when you are ready to attend in person.

obembet:
Leave Religion ... Forget weather you are Christian, Muslim or others.... I wish someone like David Oyedepo can be the president of this Nation.

Oyedepo may be a pastor, but a president he should never be. A man who lacks impulse control, who thinks it is ok to abuse another (in the name of God) and with an authoritarian streak is not someone we need. There is no point replacing an incompetent president with a megalomaniac.

That starts with eliminating the scourge of religious cultism (not true christianity) in Nigeria. That starts with Chris Oyakhilome and his band of frauds who prey on the vulnerable Nigerian.

kastgeraldino:
As well as a US bank account. Most schools don't budge on that.

Not really. They can always mail him a paycheck for him to cash however he likes.

greenskittles:
I see! Thanks, this sounds encouraging. I was already starting to play out different worst case scenarios in my head. I emailed my supervisor but he hasn't replied yet and I know it's probably because the department is in panic mode right now, so I'll have to wait and see what he says. I don't have an SSN but I do have an TIN from when I lived in the US as a child. My dad was on a non immigrant work visa for quite some time. Do you think that can help?

You should be fine with an ITIN.

greenskittles:
I'll eventually have to ask my supervisor himself but I'd like to hear opinions please. I was admitted for a masters with a fellowship, including both tuition and living expenses. During my interview my supervisor made it clear, he wants "no work" for me for my first three quarters so I can focus on studying, and then contingent on my performance, I'll join him in research as an RA for my second year.

Now with these new rules and all, if I have to take classes in Nigeria do you think it's possible I get paid my fellowship stipend here? Since if I was in the US I wouldn't have to work either. I browsed through the department website and apparently cheques are paid to the address listed in my student portal every two weeks (if I was in the US). The only available fact I have now is that the President of the University assured all students who've been offered financial aid in any form that the University will honor their promises in spite of COVID-19. But there's no assurance of that with deferring and they'd have to check with the specific office that offered them aid if they defer.

So my question, has anybody here ever had this happen to them before? Or at least were in Nigeria receiving remote payment for work? What do I need to do to successfully receive the money *if* this is possible?

I really don't want to defer because I'm in it for the long haul, I expect to be at this school for the next 5 years because I'm pursuing a PhD, and would like to get the coursework out of the way as soon as possible. So I really want to know if I could get paid, because studying without any income is not possible for me, I'd have to get a job which would mean deferring.

Since it’s a fellowship, you will get paid regardless of your location, so long as you’re registered and taking classes. No worries there... the only problem maybe whether you need a social security number in order to be paid.

Sanguine1:
It is not that i really have a hidden agenda about going to the US, but we all know that schooling in the US is more beneficial than doing it online.
In the US i Will be schooling and work and together with my stipends to support myself financially, forget about that i have sponsor remember am going to be the one sort myself out for about 80% of my expenses because I am a working class here with wife and kid too.
So going to the US will make the studies very easy for me and i Will also be able to cater for my wife and kid that i left behind here in Nigeria out what I am earning from the part-time job I will be doing there now. At all at all I must be able to pay for their house rent and feedings here in Nigeria now.

But schooling online here in Nigeria, all these benefits would be lost now. This is my plan oooo

This doesn’t make sense. If going to work to help defray part of your tuition costs and support your family is why you want to get a visa, couldn’t the VO tell you it’s better to stay in Nigeria and study online then? It’s cheaper, you avoid additional housing costs and you can work full time since there are no work restrictions in your home country.

You should come up with better arguments

kgyche:
I don’t understand you. You said he only wrote and never spoken about the issue. I told you he he did both. You can’t sit in your room to know what Trump is thinking. He condemned George Floyd killing period. Whether the condemnation came from his heart or not doesn’t concern us and doesn’t address your first message I quoted.

We actually can, he makes it clear on his twitter feed, his speeches and his executive orders etc... you're the one looking for excuses on his behalf.

grandstar:
I don't think Americans are "OK" with it. They are indifferent because the issue is distant from them. It's not an every day part of their lives.

It's like news you hear and you've forgotten in 5 minutes. Only places with a large foreign student populations will understand the implication.

If they are indifferent, then it means they are ok with it. They are not fighting to stop the rule now are they? Frankly this year's census may be the impetus to do something about immigration finally.

kgyche:
He has written and spoken about about Floyd death. He wrote on Twitter and spoke when he was about to take a flight (a report ask him about his "reaction to Floyd killing".
Sometimes we Nigerians just argue without fact.

You’re the one arguing without facts... when trump is serious about an issue, everyone knows. Trump never once visited Minneapolis and even when the Floyd family came to the WH, they were neither listened to nor permitted to appear with trump on camera at his press conference about George Floyd!

How many tweets has he made about George Floyd? I’ll wait...

grandstar:
This is utter nonsense. This is simply a xenophobic and racist policy. It belongs to the "Americans first" hubris.

Is the pandemic going to last forever? Why should students currently in the States be forced to leave? Are the plane tickets free?

This is a merciless and unnecessary policy.

Except for a few, most Americans are ok with this policy. That speaks volumes.

What is merciless is the inability of your country to provide you decent education and job opportunities, hence the need to emigrate to a foreign country.

BiggyB242:
I'm telling you, something I understand about Trump he has his people at heart because those are the people he swore an oath to protect not immigrants.

This post is comical. Trump has his people at heart? You shouldn’t comment on something you really are clueless about.

Sanguine1:
Hello my better people,
My school asks me to order my institution to send my official transcripts with a certified copy of my certificate. What did they mean by "Certified Copy of Bsc Certificate" because I have my Bsc certificate with me already now, so will school send it again?

I used my both ND, HND and Bsc to apply for admission, how I am going to send all the transcripts to them without costing me a lot of money?

By certified copy it means your degree-granting school should directly send it to your intending school or give it to you in a sealed package.

fairheart:
I think I had the first paragraph in mind when I left that comment, which is why I said the President cannot ban it. I know H1B is a law, and I know it'll take Congress, and Congress will not do it because of its advantage to American organizations.

As for the second paragraph, look at the History of America and how it was developed. Don't forget, the US was built on the ideas and by the hands of people from all over the world, not merely Americans, but people from all over the world! And history have it that this is one of the reasons it became so powerful, influential and prosperous. I am sure you know this history.
Foreigners have always been part of that development, even foreign workers--before the H1B law was enacted!!! Companies that were founded in the U.S doesn't have monopoly on ideas or all-powerful when it comes to competition in and out of America, and that is why these companies always tap minds from other Nations. It is not because these organizations need foreign workers, say essential; it's because they 'want' or desire foreign workers, even beyond cheap labour as you stated. I think we are saying the same thing, but do not remove the importance of having a diverse workforce from this.

When the desire for something and having it (i.e taping the minds of people from diverse environment for stronger workfore and better output) becomes a source of strength for an organization, that desire makes what is desired a necessity. H1B visa is very important to US organizations, more than the so-called cheap labour they might be offering to these organizations, because no big organization will limit its workforce to its country of origin. If you doubt this, write to Google , Apple, or Ernst & Young and ask why they employ foreign workers!

Sorry to say... Canada and the UK have had similar liberal immigration policies. In fact I’d argue that until 1990, the US immigration policy was far more insular, so exactly why aren’t those countries as powerful as the US economically?

While it is true that America gives an opportunity to recruit the very best around the world, the frank truth is that >98% of h1b applicants are simply average and no better than the average American. For every Elon Musk, we have hundreds of thousands of average economic migrants who simply use the H1b as an avenue to emigrate to the US.

Let’s not over-inflate the impact of the H1b because it makes us feel better.

Here is my last point on this issue... >85% of H1b holders are indian, if these foreign workers were so crucial to google, Apple etc. then please explain why India has not created its own version of those companies and simply provides cheap labor?

waynee2baba:
An Indian student with a PhD from MIT or Stanford returning back to India won't open up a job for some random high school graduate simply because he's American. The Govt. should look into consulting companies like Tata that abuse H1B visas. Let Trump continue so that silicon valley companies will expand their offices in Canada, Germany, London and Switzerland and Software Engineers in EU can start earning "blood money" like our colleagues in the US. Tech pay in EU is peanuts right now compared to the US. New grads in US tech companies will be sitting on 250k/year total TC compared to the misreable £65-85k in Europe for the same new grad role. Canada is even worse lmao.

From the tech perspective, Indians and Chinese go through rigorous education system and have built that work ethic to carry out extensive ground breaking researches in advanced areas like Machine Learning, Big Data and AI. You think an average American will put in such efforts? H1B immigrants work harder because they are usually threatened with being fired. The average American just wants to earn enough to pay bills, buy coffee and go on short holidays once every year. I'm not saying they're lazy but they have an idgaf attitude and are usually not committed to work compared to H1B workers. Heard of 996 in China?

Another reason America needs H1B is diversity. Diversity makes teams more creative and also contributes to better decision-making. CEO of Google, Microsoft, Nokia, Albertsons, MasterCard, Adobe and other top tech companies are Indians. Europeans and other nationalities came on H1B, got GC and created millions of jobs that employed Americans.

Majority of H1B immigrants don't even commit crimes because they're highly educated and just want a better future for themselves and their families. Like I said, I'm lowkey happy because these companies might expand here in EU and will boost our TC but you saying Americans don't need H1B workers is false. Tbh, with the recent happenings, most people of colour might just perish the idea of moving to America sef.

Police brutality here in the UK is lower compared to the US plus UK cops don't carry guns... only tasers and UK is bringing back 2 years and relaxing requirements for Tier 2 visa, students might start reconsidering tbh.

Trump obviously did this to make his supporters happy because of the upcoming elections.

If the above is true then why are we all rushing to live there? Was America developed by foreigners? I think this predilection to accuse the “average American” of having less work ethic than immigrants is laughable. America put a man on the moon 30 years before they opened the door to the H1b. If Indians are that great, why haven’t they turned India into a super power?

The comments here are unreal.

fairheart:
For going to the US yourself, your level of knowledge and how you see life and your field has been influenced and expanded, and enriched.
If you are to return to Nigeria after studies for work, you will certainly have some edge over those who never left. What did that tell us? There are certainly Americans that can fill those H1B jobs, but an organization that really wants to expand its scope and influence, and not shrink, but compete in a world that INNOVATIVE IDEAS rule, will NEVER limit its workforce to its country of origin -- or it will suffer a lot of disadvantages. This is why it will be IMPOSSIBLE for Trump to permanently ban H1B visa! He cannot succeed in this area, because any attempt to stop foreign workers from coming to the US to work in those organizations will limit their ability to tap into diverse minds, from different countries, for such organization enrichment. This is how it works!

Not true. Trump cannot ban the H1B visa simply because it is a law, passed by congress [Immigration and Nationality Act, section 101(a)(15)(H)]. Only Congress can reverse a law, a president can only tinker around it by issuing executive orders or via Agency regulations (these do not change the law but seek to interpret it as congress intended).

Secondly, it is untrue that America absolutely needs the H1B visa. The H1B visa as we know it came to being in 1990. Companies like Apple, Microsoft, Oracle, HP were already in existence. America had already invented the internet, made it to the moon and was the world's most powerful economy. The idea that America needs the H1B is completely overblown and does not concur with reality.

Northeastern:
Aunty, how far have they gone with diversity within the US that international diversity would now be their focus? I stand by what I said o, most of the H1B jobs are only available because they don't have substitutes that are locals.

Before una continue dey argue, go and check the companies that get the highest H1B visas and see the sectors they service. Out 85k, the top 3 companies applied for 50k in 2020. I hope you guys know the guys and sectors those 3 companies service and who they hire.

The top 3 companies on your list are indian consultancy services. In other words, these are not product companies, they simply exist to provide cheap labor to American companies. I know them quite well - Tata Consultancy was a major supplier of IT services to Dow Chemical Company in Michigan where i worked for 2 years. I recall when Tata moved and built their office in Midland in 2011. A Nigerian friend of mine worked for Dow as a Tata consultant and lived in the same apartment i did.

I say all that to arrive at a point - it is absolutely false that all those consultancies provide services that Americans cannot do. The Tata consultants essentially replaced American IT staff - some of whom were my buddies at Dow at the time, precisely for one reason - they are cheaper than Americans! Look at the salaries paid. The average salaries are below $90,000 for some jobs in the Bay area. Can you imagine an American taking an IT job in the bay area for $85,000?

Here is an ongoing lawsuit accusing Disney of replacing its American IT staff with Cognizant cheap IT labor from India on H1Bs. https://www.wftv.com/news/local/former-workers-sue-disney-consulting-companies-over-layoffs/40163464/

Northeastern:
Una don start with all these back and forth abi?
Most H1B jobs can not be performed by Americans, do you guys think any American company would choose an Indian with a heavy accent over a citizen? The me me me old fool has once again given companies another reason the move more jobs abroad.

The US is not a country, it is a business. COVID19 has taught us that working from home is both effective and efficient. Companies will not allow their talent needs to be jeopardized by selfish interest, expect more jobs to move to India, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, etc.

That is just false... simply, utterly false.

obajoey:
Never say never.
If I am the person receiving your kind of advice, I will take it as a challenge and do everything possible to prove you wrong.
Your advice should be what the person can do to scale up.
Many in the past who took your kind of advice as a challenge most times had a happy ending.

Peace.

She had two challenges and she failed both. A 2.0 GPA and 138 in GRE QUANT is way too low to be considering doing a masters in mathematics. Her application won't even get a consideration.

Sometimes its more helpful to be direct than the mealymouthed, insincere platitudes.

madakiagwom:
What of the case of someone that was schooling and working?

What you got from your job was akin to a sabbatical to allow you to go study in a different school. You can’t truthfully claim that you were working for the three years you were living in another country.

fairheart:
I am kinda confuse on when the embassy might open. During a nap yesterday, I saw a dream in which a large plane landed in a US airport. Then I saw buildings with a lot of students who look as though they are in new environment. I am the type who see things before they happen (though not always). I find it difficult to interpret this particular dream, so I will suggest to you and other students reading this, the embassy may open its door in a twinkling of an eye, with fast-processing visa procedures...and there may be fall resumption. Likely!
Just prepare yourself as though the embassy will open first week of July. But if they don't, you don't lose anything!

Only in Nigeria... everyday life is now viewed through “visions”.

Of course the embassy will open at some point... visas are processed within a matter of days. We didn’t need a dream to figure that out.

2buffagain:
If you had US plans, just redirect yourself.

Trump cannot make immigration all the way illegal so now he is bent on making it impossible for companies to even consider hiring you after school.

A minimum wage of $150k (up to min 250k depending on location) means you would have to be executive level in some companies in order to even get a H1B.

Either stay in naija and don't waste your USD school fees, or plan for somewhere else.
You don't want to place your life on limbo.

Not true. Many people earn in that bracket easily as starting salaries.

TyTos:
who have any idea about Dearborn Michigan ? what I am seeing for from google is not palatable at all

lots of muslims and arabs there.

EgunMogaji2:
I post from my own perspective, not yours. If your Nigeria is horrible then say do but please let me enjoy my own perspective. Everything you allege that I enjoy is not monopolized by me and you’re free to go get yours. Your mates are getting permanent residency in Canada all day long from Nigeria.

Have fun.

I've been in the US 15 years and i would never recommend anyone to stay in Nigeria if there is a way to leave. You are "enjoying your own perspective" safe in the knowledge that if anything happens, you can always come back to the US and take advantage of social security and medicare. These are not available to the people you are misleading here.

EgunMogaji2:
Just keep an open mind for the future because you’ll get it then when you’re at sunset like me. Many of us are back and some have made very significant investments here that’s paying off handsomely.

This is not to discourage you or anyone from traveling out. It’s not up to me.

My self assigned task on here is to balance out the equation for those that don’t want to or cannot afford to travel out. Nigeria is not all that bad.

I’ve seen both sides of the equation and I can report authoritatively.

If Nigeria can solve two things, electricity and security then you’ll see an influx of returnees and foreigners that’ll be unbelievable.

Nigeria is good... yet you have several distinct advantages over everyone here...

1. You have a US passport and I will venture to say you will NEVER renounce it or give it up. Why not? That passport allows you to leave to any major country whenever, without the indignity of applying for visas, an opportunity not open to others.

2. That passport effectively allows you to be first to be repatriated by the US government if Nigeria ever descends into full chaos. What recourse do others here have?

3. You likely enjoy social security payments constantly. That means regardless of how well your Nigerian investments perform, you will always have a monthly income that far outstrips your cost of living in Nigeria. The others here?

4. Your children are all in the US, enjoying a good government safety net. That reduces your expenses in that regard. Many here still have children to support.

It’s easy to see the good in Nigeria, while clinging to all the benefits of being a US citizen.

Eniolakiite:
Lol

You and I know those who have gotten in illegally, who get married to process paper and are waiting to get green card.. many people on that line in the USA
It is not about affecting any one’s work
It is to make jobs that are specifically for citizens and PRs less competitive. If more PRs are added, it becomes more competitive.

No one has to agree with me.

These people make up <0.1% of those taking up US jobs. It's laughable you think those people are the people we should be chasing when there are over 1 million indians with H1B visas taking up all our IT jobs.

iwriterng:
She’s not a US citizen or PR holder, she moved here few months ago, just like me (less than two years) . She should rather be humble and learn how things work, rather than shouting without researching

lol ridiculous. So on what basis does she like the pause?

Eniolakiite:
And those who apply for green card not through employment are much more. Those on the line to get green card are so many and people get green cards a lot in one day so imagine adding that to pool of people competing for jobs. He has achieved not adding more green card holders and giving them opportunity to apply to jobs only for PRs citizens till a way to resolve this millions of unemployment claims is determined at least. It is a pause for some days..
And really you or anyone else does not have to like his decisions. That’s life. We dont all like the same things.

People on line to get green cards are usually in 2 categories:
1. Family based - make up the vast majority. Most of those stay in their home country and only move to the US when their Green Cards have been approved. So a 60-day pause does nothing to them, they can continue waiting in their home country.

2. Employment-based - virtually 100% of these who are in the US are on another visa - F1, O1 or H1B. All three are not affected by the pause and are able to continue working with no interruption while they wait for their visas.