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@Alexxien, I am still thinking about the number of times you follow up end users. I was wondering: do you send each follow-up email on the existing email thread or as separate emails?

I'm curious to know this because you indicated that you sent the same message each month, I think.

@Learner47, please could you let me know how many times you follow up after the initial email?

Thanks, guys!

I recently considered changing my outbound flow (based on ideas from someone here) and I am now thinking of tweaking that a little. I need more frequent sales, even if it's just for around $100 each.

RESHARPENED:
Wrong info from an incompetent support.

Domain names listed on Dan and integrated into the Afternic Distribution Network enjoys the same level of visibility as a domain name listed directly on AFTERNIC.

A domain name I listed on Dan and integrated into Afternic a few days ago is visible at third party registrars including Name/cheap/silo, Dynadot and go.daddy.

It's NOT wrong if you prefer to list your names separately. But do NOT justify doing so with wrong info.

If you believed so. I wouldn't like to think I know better than two, not one, support staff member - one each from DAN and Afternic.

By the way, do you realise there are two types of promotion networks on Afternic? Your domain is listed in the "basic" one when it is accepted. You can fully enjoy the Premium promotion when that domain is opted in for Fast Transfer.

Basic promotion doesn't mean your listing will show only at DAN, Afternic, or GoDaddy. Rather, it would be displayed only at a limited number of partners.

Mkingz:
Congrats boss!
For your Afternic sales, did you list the names seperately on Afternic or had it on the distribution network?

Thanks.

I have always listed domains separately. DAN's support informed me, when I asked after they added Afternic integration, that the distribution thing was for Standard network promotion. I confirmed this again days ago from Afternic after a domain that I had listed on DAN was said to have already been listed there.

I would suggest you list your domains separately if you have accounts with both platforms. You only enjoy Premium (extended network) promotion when you list directly on Afternic.

First Quarter Sales (first to latest)

Name: E/c/o/n/o/v/e/r/s/e .xyz (instalments)
SP: $499
Venue: DAN
HT: ~9 months
Type: Inbound

Name: Printex//Printing .com
SP: 1288
Venue: Afternic
HT: 3+ months
Type: Inbound

Name: Crypto//Insiders .xyz
SP: 150
Venue: DAN
HT: 1 year & 2+ months
Type: Inbound

Name: RV//Repair//Pros .com
SP: 200
Venue: Afternic
HT: 4+ months
Type: Outbound

I'm really grateful to God for these sales, all of which came in the first two months of the year.

Without these, things would have been more frustrating. I haven't sold a single Geo name in like 4-5 months despite continuous outbound marketing. Phew!

Thanks be to God! More sales for everyone.

Man, I'm missing Namebio (free) already!

DNPric.es served up suspicious results repeatedly. Even reporting "sales" in advance.

Nairaland won't even allow me to post screenshot, even after solving captcha. Seems this forum keeps getting worse.

Alexxien:
Hmmm, i am guessing most undeliverable problems are usually associated using customs emails, sales template, excessive out-bounding using new email. We have been advised many times to stick with gmail, to send our mails to ourselves first before sending it to enduser in order to know if it is Landing in inbox, so as to avoid spam triggering materials that might be present in your sales template and that when out-bounding with new emails we should not exceed sending to more than 50 endusers in a day; I will advise 30 for the first 30days.

I tick all this boxes and I have never have any issues with mails landing in spam or whatsoever.

As for 10 follows, this seems to raise eyes brows; I wonder why. Yes! I follow up on my domain a total of 11times not counting the first outbound before they finally drop. Just one follow up in a month that all.

I have a total of 44 domain names in my portfolio all purchased last year, I work on my names starting from Monday to Friday. Follow up time 5:20 pm to 6:30pm. So, working Monday to Friday in a month means working for 20 days (no Sunday and Saturday). I have just 20days to work on all domains in my portfolio. Now I divide 44 by 20 that should give me 2.3, I just round it up to 3. So, I work on 3 domain names in a day not going below and not going above. As my portfolio gets bigger I make adjustments, continuing the process.

Interesting, thanks.

It's probably something else then. Well, maybe I over-use my template emails before tweaking them.

Heyzee5:
I think the US economy will likely nose dive this year with the decoupling of countries from the US Dollar and the emergence of the BRICS currency around August this year. Domainers and any other business heavily dependent on western economies are in for a long ride.

Thanks for the advice. But, after looking up what the BRICS was about, I don't see domaining being impacted greatly. The bigger concern is the state of the US and global economies.

Some of those economies in the group still depend on the US. I just pity this South Africa.

From what I can see here, I think the currency will more or less be restricted among the member countries.

Alexxien:
After when I am fully done collecting emails, I start contacting endusers. I follow up on a domain up to 10times with the same emails collected from google maps. The eleventh time, my final follow up, I extract email from bing and I bid my farewell. Follow ups on a domain are carried out on a monthly basis just once in a month. Never relent on follow ups because you have got a human feeling that you are disturbing endusers. 1 to 4 follow ups are not enough to sell domain names. Most of my sales come in at the 7th, 8th, 10th follow ups not the first or second. I use same sales template all through.

Probably Endusers do not see our first mail; the second mail they see but do not read; the third mail they read; the fourth mail, they look at the price; the fifth mail, they speak of it to the people around them; the sixth mail, they are ready to purchase and the seventh mail, they purchase it.

Bro, do you know I have been thinking about this post since I read it? Following up people that didn't show interest for up to 10 times!

Have you ever thought about deliverability issues (emails ending up in spam folders)?

I mean I don't follow up anywhere near that many times and I send a fresh email (message) each time. Yet, I have had deliverability issues and I suspected it was because some people marked my emails as spam.

So how did you manage sending exact emails that number of times without this concern?

Alexxien:
SAV is a whole lot more cheaper. Use the link below to check various registrar Domain registering fees, in real time.

Tldes. com

I would say Dynadot offers more to justify the extra 1-2 bucks.

By the way, the last time I checked Dynadot was offering new .com registrations (excluding fresh drops) for 7.88! That offer was supposed to last until the end of this month, if I remember correctly.

jamih:
Don't think locking your fund on sav is a good idea, if auto renewal hit 5 names you didn't plan to renew.
For Grey:
You can receive payment in GBP, then convert to USD.

You seemed to forget that your card details are also saved on the site. Such unplanned renewals could also happen directly via that means.

Well, I started disabling auto-renewals since last year. I can't remember now whether that was due to any unplanned renewals that occurred, but I remember reading someone's experience on that before I decided to start doing so.

I monitor renewals manually now, helped by a schedule and reminders.

jamih:
--- Receive some domain /contest proceed on Grey,
---- save 50$ on Grey
---- , withdraw the rest.
---- Use the saved fund on grey for online /domain buying or renewal
--- if I need money, withdraw my saved proceed from grey

Yeah, this sounds somewhat like the plan I had until they cancelled their USD accounts due to the issue with Silvergate.

I probably wouldn't need the Grey virtual card if only Sav allows making deposits for future renewals or purchases, though.

Congrats on your sale, written007! Wow, that's impressive. I tap into the grace in Jesus's name.

I no just know why outbound efforts haven't been yielding desired results.

In other news, has anyone here checked out the "Ask AI" feature (a possible integration of ChatGPT) on Dynadot? Seems cool! Could be helpful.

Origamist:
Please,bosses,I am new to domaining,and I am willing to learn.
Please,do you have any online group or resources you could recommend for a beginner to understand the basics while I read the previous pages?

U1

(Sorry for barging into your mentions.)

Reading at least the first 50-100 pages should help you get the basics. Just grab the idea and observe what people have been doing.

Reading all pages while taking notes here and there is still the best, though. Also, visit Namepros regularly and follow top domainers on Twitter to learn new tips and see what sells.

You may contact OP for training if you want to learn faster.

Good luck!

TopeQs:
This is true actually and the screenshot says it all. I just use myself as a reference, I hate too many messages connecting to the same thing and it wears me out, that's why I also try not to spam my end user with too much mail.

This is me. This might have contributed to the sales not flowing well, but I can't really help it.

I even try to avoid outbound-centric domains as much as possible these days. They are a lot of work that often doesn't pay off.

edogu:
Some reported sales are not nambio.

By the way, I later realised that it's like I set minimum sales price to 1k to see only those particular sales.

edogu:
Chatgptacademydotcom
Chatgptdotnet
Chatgpydotcom
ChatGPTAIdotcn
Chatgptplus etc were all sold by the owners.

I think I saw only one of these names on Namebio - possibly, the second one. That name wasn't ChatGPT+KW, or the reverse.

By the way, I only had Namebio and a few Twitter sales I saw in mind.

PacyPro:
Please, I want to ask. GPT and ChatGPT which is more valuable as a keyword to register with any descriptive word/phrase as you've shown above?

I'm asking based on marketplace domains for sale which are related to these trending keywords.

I think this question is better directed to people who know what it takes to make high-value sales here or on Namepros.

However, in my opinion, I think the keyword GPT is a bit more generic - just a bit. Besides, the keyword ChatGPT would make longer domain names and, as you may be aware, shorter is better.

I have also only seen a few sales with the GPT one, none with ChatGPT. By the way, a precursor of the latter was called InstructGPT - observe the pattern.

Anyone interested in registering GPT names may take a look at these ones and see if any is worth taking a punt on.

iykepromotions:
$7.88 .COM flash sale @ dynadot. Use LUCKYCOM code at checkout.

Thanks for sharing, boss!

But I wonder what game Dynadot is up to, though. I first saw 8.99 in January or so I rush am. Only for 8.75, 8.69, and now 7.88 to follow.

eduevolutionnow:
I dont think so. I hardly comment on this thread but when i see a sale that i will like to get someday, i like to get more info on the sale. No matter how little the seller can provide. But in the case of this sale, no info whatsover. I dont know if you are a newbie or oldie but the esseence of sales report is for the seller to provide info to help other domainers even if it is not all the info. Little info help other domainers in their domaining journey.

You say people are jealous but you've not learnt one thing about the name sold.

No name, no cost price, no niche nothing. How do you want to grow as a domainer from that. Its better he doesnt even post anything.

Did you see the earlier, lower-amount sales that he posted? If you did, I guess that would do. It's best known to him why he decided to not fully reveal those high-figure sales.

What's even worse is that several of those countering him don't even post sales here - they probably do so in some closed groups somewhere, if at all. And if you asked them for a little of their knowledge here, they won't respond.

There are several people that I have asked questions here over the years and they never responded. I don't whine; I just move on with the little info I have. Nobody really owes anyone in this life - well, that's what I have observed.

massive1019:
this is my first time of attacking someone online...but i will do this...

If you are not seeing sales...dont think everyone is experiencing the same...there are some people that have grown above that. This i say with experiences of some close friends that i have.

2k well researched names...if you know what you are doing you can be knacking $5k in sales per month...

Peace...more sales to us all...

Thank you! It's elements like that that prevent people who are getting great results from helping others. I don't really understand why people (many Nigerians, in this case) bask in criticising and pulling down others.

It's not like this fellow asked for money from us! Even if you wanted to argue that the sales weren't his, definitely na pesin make those sales.

Let's stop seeing the bad in everything, please.

protocol:
1, as fresh with same email address. This meks d work easy.it works very well.

2, Depending on the person or company that made the offer, I add 100, 200 etc on the offer.

Thanks! I appreciate your time.

protocol:
Let's see how these ones plays out. Price your assets well.

This will be my last sales report here any soon, Sorry guys.

All sold domains picked from Ed.

Massive! Congrats, boss. More sales.

On the bold, how do you do that? Is there any formula or tool(s) you use for pricing, please?

I find it hard to price domains as high as 3k because I have been struggling to know how valuable some domains could be. I think I have less than 10 priced higher than 2k out of hundreds of non-geo domain names.

@protocol, I was thinking about the helpful expository post you made here days ago (on 11th) and I thought to seek further clarification on a couple of things:

1. Do you send the second email in the same email thread as the first (follow-up) or as a fresh email?

2. Given that you set minimum offer as 499, what is the typical price you'd counter with if you received that offer amount for a domain listed for 988 or 1288?

Thanks in anticipation!

protocol:
Hi all,
i must confess that selling domains is not a very easy task at all. Out of these sales and some few others that sold, i still have very many that did not sell. But the good thing is that i try to renew almost all my names. some of these domains sold through outbound on Dan while some sold on afternic.

Almost all my names go through outbound. I do this not for immediate sale but also to create awareness that such name exist. I send first mail and then second. I do not reduce my price which is always 988 or 1288. I set minimum offer on Dan which is 499, this way, i dont get low ball offers except few that brings lesser offer through mail. [ if you are just starting, this might not work for you.]

I usually dont buy much domains i dont wish to renew. This helps me not to be in a haste to sell. Large portfolio size plays a role too. Semi auto[ not full auto] email collection is very important too. If you dont collect emails right, you might have a hard time selling.

Budget is important. If you are on a small budget, the result is also small. Almost all names are from Ed.

With my portfolio size which is fast approaching 2k , i get passive sales as well. I send first mails on Mondays, follow up which is the final mail on Thursdays.

Great open rate is necessary. i use mailtrack.io for each of my about 10 gmails for outbound. Send mail on monday and by thursady the mail has rested and ready for the second mail. E mails needs to rest for a great open rate.

A daytime job will help when sales run far. one month after outbound of a domain without its sale, i most times increase its price.

These are few things i do that works for ME. It might differ from what works for others.

Thanks for this! I could pick one or two things to implement from here.

Sales haven't been flowing well in recent months. I haven't sold a single Geo in like 4-5 months despite doing outbound marketing as usual.

And I still wonder how people get sales from YP leads. They haven't impressed in all the years I have been working with them as a last resort of sort.

Went well. In fact, the only seller I approached accepted it (N500).

Some sellers had even been collecting it all along before the announcement last night, just that you'd pay more for what you're buying.

Jamescool2:
I'm trying to understand what this means

I received an exact email via WHOIS for a recent reg around the same time.

This kain people na part of the reasons I use domain privacy. They showed me pepper in the days of registrations at GoDaddy, Dotster, and DirectNIC. Thank God for Namesilo!

pandder:
Fyi

E be like say na audio promo be dis. I received a similar email days days ago from Porkbun.

When I tried registering an expired domain name yesterday, I saw a price of $9.73. I had to go back and click the link from the email I received only to see that an offer that's supposed to last until 31 March had ended!

I just had to settle for unplanned registrations at Dynadot make my research no waste. Luckily, that registrar offered a price of 8.69.

Och77:
The truth is that the old naira is still a legal tender technically. You can't use it to buy goods and services but you can still deposit same in your bank via CBN. The POS guys here in my area still receive the old notes because they can send it to the bank. So vote buying with the old notes is still very possible.

Thank you!

I haven't been 100% certain that the move will curb vote-buying from the start. I was almost having a heated argument with someone on this two days ago until I decided to let them bask in their "wisdom."

Some market women are even accepting the old notes around here. The condition is just that you won't be getting change - you have to buy something worth the old note you give them. Of course, you may also pay higher than if you were using "legal" notes.

daharry:
Guys I have this domain name, Earthus😌xyz in my portfolio with a low price on it..
Although I'm still new in this domaining, I'm thinking of bumping the price up a little bit..
But I'd love to hear your views..
Would this domain name be suitable to hold out for the long term, if no sales?
And if you were to be me, why would you hold on to this domain name?

Let me drop by two cents on this.

With the reported "fake" Swetha sale reports, I'd advise caution on bumping the price. XYZ sales are still happening but the prices aren't very high.

I don't know what you saw before registering that domain name - that should determine whether to hold or drop. I only gambled on most of those that I registered, so I intend dropping them if not sold. I will renew a smaller fraction.

How many other extensions of the same name are registered? How many views is the domain name getting monthly relative to others in the portfolio? Those are two of the criteria I use to decide on renewals, plus what I think possible use cases might be. I think that extension is more fitting for the technology industry, especially the metaverse, crypto, and the likes.

While I don't have the above information for your domain name, I wouldn't renew it if I was to make a decision with my limited knowledge by looking at it right now. Don't get me wrong, though, it could sell to someone that sees the value.

grandstar:
He is correct. Because Afternic tolerated violations over the long term never made it right. They are now simply cracking down.

Some trademarks frantically speaking are legal scams. Botox and Realtors are trademarked names which just isn't fair. Nevertheless, the law must be respected.

For many other brands however, companies spent millions, if not tens of billions building up the brands and so are justified fighting tooth and nail to protect their investments.

Maya Angelou said "It you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, then change how you view it."

Even you have failed to comment on the sample names that I cited were being used by established businesses online. The internet is replete with such for different motor brands - I only provided a couple examples. Those names merely suggested specialization!

Your comment would have been more balanced and objective if you addressed those examples I provided and why they are allowed.

Thank Goodness that Afternic isn't the only marketplace, although it's the leader. I successfully listed all those names on Dan and all but one on Sedo.

betnet144:
Testing a system... They mean Max bet and Min bet respectively. Depending on how many available games the game was chosen from. I max most weekends and Min weekdays based on availability of qualified games

Thanks for your time.

Promxy94:
Price them o, ask and ye shall find, so my Bible tells me.

I no just know what to price what. That's just the problem.

betnet144:
Plays (Tue, February 13, 2023
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Hornchurch 139
Tabled Min 100

Just stumbled on this thread and it seems to be valuable.
Could you please explain what the Tabled Max and Min mean? Thanks.