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jim jones: masa relax. you accuse folks of being silly and making senseless comments(not that i'm defending anybody) while being disingenuous, yourself. yes the catholic church introduced pagan traditions to christianity, but where in that post did the pope ever admit that them pointless celebrations are of pagan origin?

joshua idibia: yeeeeee!!! dey hv nw found out dt ts mscalculation. i no blame d guy.hm no gt calculator bk den. bt sir BENNEDICT,wot nxt? u wan rewrite bible?

tonyeverready: The truth can't be submerged for too long! The pegan practices shrouded with christainity shall be unveiled with time. Christmas, easter, sunday, forgiveness of sin by a mortal etc mat 15: 1-9 mk 7: 1-13. Be careful not to lay aside the commandments of God for the tradition of men.

seriallink: The Pope said it & even wrote a book about it. Do your research!

You might wanna check out this thread : www.nairaland.com/1109994/pope-benedict-xvi-publishes-biography

Pastor Kun: The catholic church may have it's fault's but greed and pursuit of personal aggrandisment is not one of them. I am almost certain that the proceeds from the sale of the book would not be used for the personal benefit of the pope talkless of buying private jet as is being done by carnal pentecostal pastors.

Pastor Kun: And what is the source of these 'infancy narratives'? Does this confirm the belief that the catholic church has several other early christian literature which was not canonised into the bible. Books hidden in the vatican vaults for centuries.

abdulkayus: wat d pope said is d truth. There are many practise in d xtianity dat has its origin frm d pagan and den incoporated into xtianity by d roman. Even nowadays, rule dat are clear in bible are no more followed by d majority xtains, rules lyk coverin of hair by d females, rules on xtension of hair(attachment), wearing of trousers by d females and many others rules, by nowadays xtains tend to forget abt it and follows d western life takin den as face of xtains which is false. I do tel meny of mt xtains frnds dat wat is practise nowadays as xtainity is mostly western life. CIAO

DANILSA: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAS BEEN VINDICATED, JESUS WAS NEVER BORN ON 25TH DECEMBER THEY ALWAYS SEE BEFORE OTHERS, I MEAN THE FAITHFUL CLASS.

aglomar: Ho does this irrelevant n useless papal lecture bring a solution to the teeming global problems. This is an avenue 4 some ppu 2 further denounce xtianity. Pope pls get a job!

seriallink: Christian worship styles are all over the NT! Paul and other early Christians wrote letters to new Christian converts, giving them guildlines on how to worship God in spirit and truth! They never used any borrowed pagan styles of worship to teach! The standard I'm talking about is in the Bible, anything borrowed from pagan tradition to please some pagan converts is wrong! That was my point.

I'm not trying to silent any Catholic; the article is about the Pope's views on borrowed pagan traditions. So, lets stick to the topic!

Olarajee: I just hope that all profits from the book go to the victims of child sex abuse perpetrated by their priests. And that those who harbored and protected pedophiles finish out their miserable lives in prison. Well, that won't happen. Right?

seriallink: Some people are just silly; making senseless comments doesn't change what the Pope said! Must you insult people to make a point? Not surprised! That is what you guys resort to when your Church issues are being discussed! It's very clear that Catholics will soon resume killing to defend their Church doctrines !!!

Was it not the Catholic Church that brought in Christmas, Easter and other pagan traditions into Christianity? Even when the Pope is admitting that these celebrations have pagan origins, some people are still talking!!! *Smh* BTW, my problem is not even the date/time of Christ's birth but the pagan celebration linked to it!!!

seriallink: *Smh* But when you tell them that some of these celebrations have pagan origins, they won't agree! They don't want us to follow scriptural teachings because of some man made doctrines & pagan traditions *Smh*

Where are the mistakes coming from now? I thought they said Peter was a Pope? The Church that they even value more than the scripture is making mistakes now....hmmm

frosbel: Man of SIN doing what he knows best , working against Christ !!

caseless: Roman contraption!

Holy contradiction!


"celebrating his birth during the darkest part of the year is probably linked to pagan traditions and winter solstice".


Hmmmm...Romans' effect! They don finish this religion.....kaaai...


I hope the pope comes out one day and tell us how the bible was also adulterated by the romans, and not only his birthdate suffered the roman attack.

This romans even get verse for bible to show how far they went to destroy the bible.


Brethren, always stick to ur old testament to enjoy the real message.....

Ishsoph: Nigerian Gay Gets Asylum In The U.S, After Being Prosecuted In Nigeria


21 November, 2012

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Oliver came out quietly in 2005, but last year when a gang of neighborhood boys learned the young activist was gay, they blackmailed him, stole his phone and clothing and, when he called their bluff, told his mother.

In the United States, this event surely would have been traumatizing. But in Nigeria, where Oliver lived until he recently got asylum status, it almost cost him his life.

Oliver, still trembling from fear, did not want to use his last name. "I used to live with my mother, but now she said I should never come back," he said. "She is the only family I have."

The Nigerian Senate has passed a bill that criminalizes homosexuality, forcing even families to report their loved ones if they are in same-sex relationships. Its House of Representatives will soon vote on it.

"It has huge implications," said Oliver, who is now 26 and living in the Queens section of New York City. "It will actually make families torn apart and open the doors to persecution of those even perceived to be gay."

Under the proposed criminal code, Oliver could be sent to jail for 14 years. If enacted, the law would also penalize any organization that provides services to lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender citizens.

Oliver is one of 102 LGBT applicants to win that status in the United States, thanks to the pro bono work of Immigration Equality. They come countries like Jamaica (31) to El Salvador (6) to Russia (7).

As an advocate, Oliver spoke out against homophobia across Africa, but it only made his own life worse. In one of the most terrifying incidents, his uncle found out and made him seek help in the church. There, he was locked up for days with angry mobs outside. "It was horrifying," he said. "I wanted to kill myself."

But in July, while attending the International AIDS Conference in the U.S., he sought the protection of asylum. He received his letter from the U.S. government just two weeks ago. "It is so exciting to be away from some of the things that limited me and my potential," Oliver said. "Here the police can protect and not persecute me."

Oliver will not be able to return to his native countries until he's a citizen - in about five years. But he say he's "excited" about his new life.

Oliver, who lived at first in a shelter, is now temporarily living with friends. Finding work has been a challenge, but eventually, he hopes to go back to school to get a master's degree in public health.

"Hopefully, I will build on myself and when I am ready and able, I pray I can go back home and help," he said. "But now, I feel like one of the lucky few to live another day."

Logicboy03: Apologia means "to defend".

Apologetics means something much more than to defend. It is mostly in a religious context.






That is the point. That is why it is called a "root". Just like a tree is much more than the root.

plappville: Bros not only the woman, there are many option, the male child may not be a person if it be matched as Jerusalem/zion given birth in one day.

Ihedinobi: 1. The Bible is its own lexicon, so to speak.

2. "There is a spirit in man and the inspiration of God giveth him understanding." (Elihu speaking in Job)

3. Paraphrase: spiritual things/realities/truths are only comprehensible to spiritual people. (Paul's letter, I think the second, to the Corinthians).

4. To us, Christians (those related to God by birth and thus have His Nature), are given the mysteries of the Kingdom. To others it is not. (Lord Jesus's words to His disciples).

5. We all receive the Spirit of God according to capacity. Jesus alone is the One Who received everything because, being God, His capacity is infinite. As such, the Revelation of God is given, if you like, in bits and pieces, to His children according to their ability to bear it, and this ability is meant to continue to increase, so that together the whole Church comes to be filled with all the fullness of God.


All the above means that the meaning of the Bible is not available to anyone without the Spirit of Christ. And that even among such, comprehension varies directly as maturity/experience with the Lord. Furthermore, however mature any given Christian is, he can never alone hold in himself the full comprehension of God. That is the reserve of the whole Church.

As for criteria, the Bible is a seamless garment, not amalgamated and sewn-on pieces. From beginning to end it is an undivided, unbroken whole. Therefore, any interpretation that, even when seemingly completely satisfying a number of passages leaves one or two unaccounted for is very highly suspect. And if it makes effort to force the obstinate Scripture to agree with it, it is unworthy of acceptance.

There must, therefore, be complete agreement among all passages that can be raised before the interpretation can be accepted.

Ihedinobi: hmmm . . . Did you read me saying anything like the above?

Boomark: Please read this and answer the question. It is for all catholics.


if one of the Israelites secretly go to
where Moses kept the bronze
snake and kneel before it
saying "O! Great serpent, bring
me and household healing from
god."

Do you think the person did the right thing and that God will be happy with the person?

Boomark: No. That would be the Pope.

Logicboy03: root--apologia


roots----bio + logo

truthislight: your opinion.

We have seen what the bible says.

The arch angel is the leader of the angels.

And Jesus is also the leader of the angel. QED.

truthislight: am through with you on this thread since your interest is to stick to the lies that rcc have fed "us" all along.

You can stick with it it is a free world and i will stick to what i see from the bible.

Peace.

truthislight: we all know that a commander is one that the gives oders/instructions/lead others.

Jesus lead his angels at Rev. 12 and Rev. 1:11-18 to first battle satan in heaven and letter destroy the wicked.

A commander comes with his troop and this too have angels that follow him and the referenc is to the commander of the troop like in every rational reference to military troop the reference is to the commander but to you no, it will not be to you since it will destroy your trinity.

You can call a troop to the name of its commander and that is what happen in this revelation.

That you say No, does not change the facts.

From the passage we all know who the commander of yahweh's army is.

Your denial is for you alone and does not change anything from the truth.

Next you will present torbit. Lol.

truthislight: but the same Jesus is the commander.

And michael is also the commander.

truthislight: thats a fraud from your rcc bible.

truthislight: see the fraud again!
this vers says "one of the foremost princes"
where did you get that your translation from?
Oh! It may be an rcc bible that dont have the fear of God that will change what the bible says at that daniel.
Sorry for you.

truthislight: this a very good advice from you,
but dont you think you need this advice in view of the evidences in front of you?

Also, in view of all the lies your rcc have put forward that is blinding you and co?

truthislight: so you are telling us that Jesus will go and borrow an arch angels voice to be able to raise the dead at the end?

Was it a borrowed arch angels voice that Jesus used in raising up Lazarus?

No, it is His(Jesus)voice that raise Lazarus and it is him that has the arch angels voice it his him that has the commanders voice, it is his voice that the dead will hear and rise at the end.

Are you saying that an arch angels voice has more authority than that of our lord Jesus christ? Insult!

An only beggoten son, a prince needs to borrow to do the will of the king.

An arch angels voice is not more powerful than that of christ but rather it is him Jesus christ that has the commanding voice like the commanding voice that he had used in raising up lazarus.

Yes, our lord has a commanding voice an arch angels voice to raise the dead, the voice of whom all authority both in heaven and on earth has been given. A commanders voice, he is not borrowing it, but rather, it is his voice.
Peace

chukwudi44: You are a very big fool and idiotic liar!! Daniel 10:13 was written in aramaic and not hebrew nor greek and that particular verse is translated arch chief angel,arch angel or chief prince depending on the bible translation.Even if I were to to deal with prince instead of angel,the phrase "one of the chief princes" clearly indicates micheal had peers who who occuppied the same strata of authourity with him.That is obviously not the case with Jesus who was higher than every created thing.