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truthislight: liar like you, that place was talking about prices.

Prince of persia, prince of greece all being of the devil hindring God's angel.

But also made refernce to michael as one of the formost princes of Yahweh and not one of the arch angels.

Yes, that is true, since Yahweh also have the powerful cherubs that are befor him, but Jesus/michael is an only beggoten son.

You dirty crook liar leading people to satan the father of the lie, you most be one of his main sons with your pope as his first son.

You are a digrace to God for claiming to be a christianbut does the will of satan.

u claim to be a xtian yet u cant talk like one, a disgrace, let ur word b season with salt, try and present whatever u tink d truth is with kindness.

truthislight: rubbish!

Madness.

That is how satan has used your type to lead people astray with contradictry false scriptures and you claiming the bible that does not support your doctrines to be a product of rcc so that you can rubbish it.

Just imagine what you just shaelessly posted up there!

You cannot rely on the bible any longer but to resort to contradictery books, well, it is your life, do what you want with it, and also deceive those that will not stick to the bible.

But you cannot change/hide the truth forever, that is how you kill/burn people alive in the middle ages for saying the truth.

hahaha, those who compiled the xtian bible say tobit is part of it, if it isnt in ur bible dat means ur bible is not complete, or maybe u are nt a xtian dat is y u dont have some of d books of d xtian bible

truthislight: look at this liar!

Infact for you attempt to twist the portion of the bible that said "one of the foremost princes" to say "one of the archangels" i will call you a "lying fraud"!

This is an example of the deceit of the RCC that operate with lies.

You lie about the bible you lie about every thing.

This is how you claim th "RCC wrote the bible"

i pity your low life.

what does "one of the foremost princes mean"? If michael is "one of the foremost princes" that means there are others like him.
I see no decit!

Logicboy03: root of a word and the meaning are most of the time very different in meaning.

Surely, you should know this

wow! Really? Biology is still defined accding to d root words bio and logos, or is that an exception to ur different-meaning rule?

Logicboy03: Did you make that comment out of malice or ignorance? Or both?

none of the above!

vedaxcool: I undertsand what migt be your problem; it is called Uncle Tom syndrome n the American racial context, Uncle Tom is a pejorative term for blacks that give up or hide their ethnic or gender outlooks, traits, and practices, in order to be accepted into the mainstream—a so-called race traitor. In African American parlance this is also derogatorily known as an Oreo cookie, black on the outside only, white on the inside.[2]

or

House Negro (also House Nigger) is a pejorative term for a black person, used to compare someone to a house slave of a slave owner from the historic period of legal slavery in the US. The term comes from a speech, Message to the Grass Roots, given by African American activist Malcolm X, where he explains that during slavery, there were two kinds of slaves: "house Negroes," who worked in the master's house and "field Negroes," who performed the manual labor outside.

He characterizes the house Negro as having a better life than the field Negro, and thus unwilling to leave the plantation, and potentially more likely to support existing power structures that favor whites over blacks. Malcolm X identified with the field Negro. The term is used against individuals[1][2], in critiques of attitudes within the African American community,[3] and as a borrowed term for critiquing parallel situations.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Negro

Try getting some help, it is not good for one to consider himself inferior to others! Have a pleasant day!

a point and some balls.

manny4life: Let me guess, you're the typical computerized brained mentality...LOL

You think I did not follow your ranting during the elections? Like I said, ACCEPT DEFEAT, and DEAL WITH IT. The first step towards healing is acceptance. Now that we've identified you need healing from your loss, let me concentrate on your garbage.

Four years of terrible debt - AGREED. Now let me ask you, when your beloved Bush took over the economy, was it in good shape or in bad shape? At the end of his term, was it in good, bad, or terrifically awful shape? Let's ask ourselves this questions first before delving into other issues. How do you incur more money by making the economy more worse? I though borrowing was to make your life a lot better?

57 million on food stamp? lol, THE WAY YALL THROUGH FIGURES AROUND IS JUST BAFFLING. There is no doubt that the SNAP program has been aiding a lot of families through these hard times - it does not mean that these folks aren't working or don't have jobs. Please get your facts straight. The SNAP program - through the U.S. Dept of Agriculture (USDA) is paid not directly by the FG but through agricultural subsidies and contribution by farmers to help sell their products. In addition, most are funded directly by the states, If I'm wrong, I'll accept.

A continued increase in unemployment - YOU LIE MY FRIEND. Perhaps you need to visit the Bureau of Labor Statistics more often. Prior to the election, unemployment was DOWN, to the lowest since Obama took office. As of October 2012, unemployment was abt 7.9%, down from almost double digits. That my friend means single if not double digits of jobs were added. In addition to that, you need to look at several reports that has stated that more than 12million direct jobs will be added over the next four years - that was Romney's line of attack - "I will add 12million jobs", tryna steal Obama's glory...smh

A foreign policy mess - please enlighten us. At least we know that Israel can't be contained for too long and the chaos in Syria is at least being diplomatic. So please, throw more light on your "foreign policy mess"?

My friend, my theme has always been about Obama's policies, wherever you got the garbage of he's a black man, idk. My post DOES NOT reflect neither did it state "black or white" man, it's your guilt that's disturbing you. It ok to talk about them, but please, DON'T LIE ABOUT IT. That's exactly same thing Romney did, he gaffed so much that it was evident that's he's a sore liar and loser. Therefore, if you have anything better to challenge, let's hear it.

u just showed y u wont make it on the political scene, ofcourse u dnt know d difference btw attacking ideas and attacking persons.

eggheaders: man what is true then like seriously I didn't get what you trying to say.and moreover ain't no Barack Obama support but Romney is worst.my man was Gary Johnson of the libertarian party.

it seem ur man didnt make it to d last 2

plappville: Popeitalo, you know why you dey avoid me. You think say na the best to pretend like say all is well with ur church doctrine.
One thing you fail to understand is that, you are not the only Catholic member here, if you don't find articles that exposes historical lies
of the Catholic church, others may find it useful. Not everyone love to remain in the dark. It is scriptural to correct wrong things in the body of Christ.

amen, and d so called wrongs include "d 4 cardinal point is a babylonian mystery" abi?

plappville: I no vex you, na only question i been ask, sorry if you take that as an offence.

im not offended bt ur question 'get leg'

plappville: I cant tell you how He look like because the NT Gospels contain no reference to His physical appearance, much less a description of him.
We don’t know what he looked like. So why should we stress on what is not scriptural?

Old Testament descriptions of King David, for example, allude to his physical attractiveness (1 Samuel 16:12; 17:42).
What Rev and Isaiah told about Christ it is not what we see in the paint/art work of today's church.


Isaiah 53:2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot, And like a root out of parched ground; He has no stately form or majesty That we should look upon Him, Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.

Revelation 1:15 His feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters.

hahaha, so when christ was on earth his voice was like d roar of many waters? Hahaha, try again, maybe it will do u good to differentiate visions 4rm reality.

plappville: The best judge is he that hears from both stories. Now that you have only listen to Popeitalo's gossip, keep to ur word.
After all you will proudly say you are a Christian abi?

Proverbs 11:13 A gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy man keeps a secret.

actually i heard 4rm both sides, action, they say speaks louder than words, u accused me of persisting remember? Even in a public forum

italo: Aha! That's the twin brother.

They use many words. Put up many posts. Make no sense. Sometimes, I even suspect they are the same person.

datz nt impossible

Logicboy03: Fail......I left the trap open for yu to fail. I think this is how I will be debate dubious theists like you.

Apologetics has to mostly with religion. What I did not mention was that outside religion, apologetics can only apply to an ideology or a philosophy or a body of thought. You fail because atheism is none of these.

You cant engage in apologetics for arsenal football club or for eba preparation. You make it silly when you apply it outside a philosphy or ideology.


You made example of communist apologist- communism is an ideology not atheism.


-~Vedaxcool owned.

cool, so atheism isnt a body of thought? It must be abt thoughtlesnes

Logicboy03: a•pol•o•get•ics n. (used with a sing. verb) 1.
The branch of theology that is concerned with
defending or proving the alleged truth of
Christian doctrines. 2. Formal argumentation in
defense of something, such as a position or
system.


Definition 2 is a meaningless definition. So, if I claim that Vedaxcool is an Arabic name and you disagree with explanaitions of how Arabic language works- would you then be engaging in "name apoligetics" defending your name?


Apologetics mostly relates to a religion or religious position.

a lie, try amusing me by showing me the root of the word "apologetics"!

Pastor AIO: Hokmah and Binah. Malkuth is Kingdom.

what does this mean?

Ihedinobi: Ah, this sounds interesting. How do you decide that the man-child is a single person, but the woman a group? What dictionary are you using?

now talking of consistency, how come everybody in rev 12 represents a person except the woman?

[quote author=i.chuka]@ plap. The book of Revelation has Christ and His Bride/Church in full view and not the nation of Israel.
The woman was clothed with the
sun,that is the sun is shining upon her,in this present age,God is revealing Himself through her,this shows her relationship with Christ and the age of Grace.(God is revealing Himself in this age through the Church and not the nation of Israel)
2.The woman had the moon "underneath her feet.the phase beneath her feet"means that the moon is subjected at her feet,the light of the moon is a reflecting light,it has no light of is own.indicating that all the things in the age of the law merely reflected the things in the age of Grace(the nation of Israel is merely a reflection of the body of Christ which is the Church)
3.The woman had a crown of twelve stars upon her head.the chief figures in the age of the Patriarchs were from the time of Abraham to the twelve tribes.the crown upon her head speaks of her relatnshp to the age of the Patriarchs.
She's not only related to the age of Grace,but also to the age of the law and the age of the patriarchs.
So,the Woman in the vision can't be just the nation of Israel,the nation of Israel is just a small fry in the bigger picture of things.[/quote]hmm...

Pastormustwac weytin b ur problem with the buk of tobit eh?

obadiah777: OH YEAH THAT LIST. LET ME GO REVISIT IT LOLZ

hahaha, i'll add u to my list of characters

obadiah777: YEAH I HAVE THAT EFFECT ON PEOPLE. THEY THINK I AM BRASH AND AS SUCH I AM ALWAYS CAST OFF AS A NUISANCE. I CANT RELATE WITH THIS THOUGH >>> I find that there is an inbuilt inertia in all systems including our cognitive systems that makes it hard for us to shed ideas. REASON BEING I FIND IT EXTREMELY EASY TO SHED ANYTHING THAT IS WRONG. BUT WHAT HELPS ME IS I HAVE A JOURNAL. IF I GET A NEW IDEA, I WRITE IT DOWN, LOOK AT IT AND THEN UPLOAD IT INTO MY MIND. ITS THAT EASY FOR ME. HOWEVER I HAVE EVERYTHING ON JOURNAL AS BACKUP. SEE WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORD WE HAVE TO BE DUCTILE AND MALLEABLE ENOUGH TO CHIP OFF WRONG THINGS AND ADD ON NEW ONES. SCRIPTURE SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE AS A CHILD IN OTHER TO COME INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. THATS WHAT THAT MEANS. AS A CHILD YOUR SLATE IS CLEAN. ALL PRE-CONCIEVED IDEAS IS WIPED AWAY AND THEN YOU START AGAIN AS A CHILD WITH ENTHAUSIASM. THATS THE THING ABOUT CHILDREN. THE ENTHAUSIASM TO LEARN AND THE CLEAN SLATE. THATS HOW WE ARE TO APPROACH THE WORD.

i certainly remember ur list of pharisees and scoffer, hope u have deleted my name from it? I might flog u if u refuse!

seriallink: @Pastor AIO & Buzugee,

Infact this thread was created to justify Mary's worship & her 'Queen of Heaven' title. It wasn't created to seek truth! Thank God you guys saw it! *Smh*

nothing in this world that i hate most than an unfounded accusation, please provide proof that during this thread i wrote anything on the above.
If u cant shame on you, i gat no apology 4 that.

Pastor AIO: I was actually developing some alternative interpretation then I saw your post. I couldn't continue any further after that. However I am sure that there are some die-hards that will continue to contest in order to safeguard their own agendas.

Their own agendas? Well all the running around that we have been doing is merely about one simple fact. Nothing to do with the Man Child at all, but rather his mother. Once you've established that the Roman Catholic church is an Evil, Pagan cult that wrongly worships (or honours) Mary, then that will affect the way you interpret the passage. It would appear that the passage has an elevated view of the mother of the Manchild. If the manchild is Christ then that means that Mary is being elevated in the bible. That just won't do.

I thank God for this thread cos it serves as a good example of the common ailment amongst christians of biblical Eisegesis.

i took some day off nairaland and coming back i saw this. I see a valid point.

eggheaders: this dude is a classic circuit clown.blame ur loss on the 47% gaffe.the flip flopping politics. the zero knowledge on foriegn politics.secret tax agenda, unhiding hatred for the middle class and immigrants. go cool ur sorry ass in ur Michigan mansion joor.

i can find anything wrong in what romney said, what are ya ranting about. Is any of romneys points untrue?

advocate666: Old boy, what you are smoking can only be found in the "lost" ark of covenant. It is what made them moses and davids massacre whole nations. Powerful stuff.

lol!

Logicboy03: Weere!

You don crae finish. I told you to stop smoking igbo with bible pages

y does this sound funny?

Ihedinobi: Actually it does, the five foolish virgins were no less virgins for their foolishness.

hahaha.

pastormustwacc: ^^^Not meant to be that way, it is just interesting how everyone always pick their sides when it comes to some things.

i heard they say "Religion makes strange bed fellows"

Boomark: So in Rev 5:8, the angels, 24 elders are also mediators between man and God?

u no fit read?

Boomark: It is also interesting that catholics worship idol. Can you answer my question on bronze snake above?

u just called joshua an idol worshipper what else? Mayb d next guy u would call a pagan is david.

italo: That's why I stopped discussing with her. I don't find anything meaningful from her posts so I'm always tempted to insult... Better I safeguard my soul.

She probably will prove me right after this post.

that means i gat to b careful!

ijawkid: Where is that chukwudi.....

I told him not to start this....it won't end well.......

JW's don't conceal the wrong doings of its members....when cases are brought to there notice they iÑvestigate and take necessary actions.....the witnesses even report wrong doings that take place amongst the congregations and drastic measures are employed......serious cases that are known are reported to the police and not swept under the rug....that is why such cases of pedophilea are infinitesimal.....

I told chukwudi to be focused if not he'll only be bringing more shame to the RCC......

@ Barrister.....just leave this issue.....na small pikin dey worry chukwudi............him go soon run...

@UBEnidictus.......you are one matured catholic......shake my hand.....

ijawkid u don misspell my username again abi?