₦airaland Forum

ojun50:
Nd don't come back wen D country is good

NIGERIA can't get better in 30 years

it's neck deep in the abyss

LMAO
see as you don cast my guy

AngelicBeing:
I am Buhari, I understand the pains and agony Nigerians are facing but I was misled by my useless silly kitchen cabinet members because I sign different bills without knowing what they really means but I am going to make Nigeria the new global bride, vote for me in 2019 and I will solve all your problems, I will arrest more PDP politicians who ate our yams, Apc is a party of Saints, vote Apc led by me in 2019 and you will be happy, meanwhile, I have instructed the CBN to withdraw all our external reserves to be shared to all Nigerians, I will share the reserves and henceforth the money from crude oil will be shared to Nigerians, from July 1St 2018, all Nigerians will receive 2 million dollars each to go and shop anywhere and vacation anywhere in the world... Vote me Buhari and I will make it happen

this guy is so hilarious

majorgr:
the problem with people is that you don't do your research, out of more than 3 billion people in china, the statistics of them having blue eyes is 2 % talking abt mixed and genetics here, now, out of such a huge amount of people to meet without it, what is the mathematical possibility that the first chinese lady he bumped into would have been blue eyed ? think ! unless contacts lenses according to what some people said here, if contact then yes. now, check the net and write colour of eye of chinese you will see d result just like the world associates africans with black hair and brown eyes, chinese are associated with their colour of hair and eyes for your info not blue. so please...

China is not 3 billion people

SalamRushdie:
This same thing caused the Arab spring in Tunisia but in Nigeria it caused absolutely nothing

Fela's message in his song "sorrow tears and blood" captured it all.

Nigerians are not ready

Ijaya123:
What do you know about economics? I can perceive some level of hatred and jealousy in your post.

yea

The black man curse

hating those that are more successful than they are

deepwater:
It's not a coincidence, the truth about the refinery is not being told.

In no way, I repeat noway will that refinery be ready by 2020, when in 2018 we are still discussing piling of foundation?? . It's a single train refinery for those who understand.

Mr Edwin, could you explain why thirteen (13 ) young engineers-in-training Dangote took to INDIA for refinery training resigned on their own? Some resigned from new Delhi and Mumbai, even paid for their own air tickets back to lagos. They just couldn't stand the lies been told on the news and watch their future being held to Ransome.

Tell the truth, stop politics.
The rate at which the cbn is selling forex to Dangote, he will never complete this project. Baba dey take the money dey fund other things. Selling at 134 like say na only Dangote need help.

what is this one saying

Have you gone there to see the level of work that has been done there

Nukilia:
Cost of production affects the whole cycle.

help me tell him

izombie:
Everything he said is the truth. But that slavery part is more than the truth. There is this guy i know in south africa who was not doing anything meaningful. The guy was just surviving. Then luck smiled upon him and he won this lotto number thing of more than 20000 dollars. He immediately bought a flight ticket to nigeria. Went to nigeria, bought an suv. Flexed and slept with a lot of girls. Finished the money and came back to SA empty handed and started struggling again. Now he's worse off than before he won that money.

that's precisely what I'm saying

Africans need representation

You kneel down to greet your husband
SO WHAT
Doesn't mean anything or guarantee anything

12inches1:
A bunch of useless points. The main reason Africans are poor is colonialism, slave trade, greed of our leaders and poor leadership. Another reason is poor ethic and poor reward system in our society. All the other reasons the OP has listed are related to this.

You were colonised because you are WEAK

The world is not kind to the weak, and the weak gets crushed


Colonialism is over and other countries who were colonised have made giant strides, while lazy Africa is still behind

Who will you blame for that

The Europeans have studied Africans for centuries, and they have known that our elite are greedy and stupid (you need to read some of the notes they were sending back to the foreign office in London from their colonial outposts in Africa)

So they use that against you


The millennial Africans being exposed and all have the chance to redeem this continent, but the generations before then are stifling them with their foolishness

InvertedHammer:
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The main thing is consumption. They are in constant competition to see who spends the most. And he who spends the most is deemed the wealthiest. Thus you have folks who flaunt to impress thereby wasting money on wants instead of needs. It is a race problem because blacks wherever they are remain consumers and not producers. The saddest part is that their consumption is centered on depreciable items like cars, private residences, shoes, clothes. Any place there is money to be wasted, look around you.

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right

redsun:
The core reason is lack of knowledge. The continent and it's inhabitants are not as conscious as a thriving subterranean ants empire. It is a weird thing to say,but it's true.

true

AreaFada2:
Well, hopefully.

First step is to have limited number of kids. 1-4 max. So that we can train them and equip them better for life.

We will also have less poor people as jobs will go round better.

The more self-sufficient people are, the less burden on others.

Family planning, personal independence, financial education & investment/Wealth Creation should be taught from around primary 3 in schools. And drummed into brains as early as possible.

You got that right Area fada

this your moniker tho

Areafada lol

musicwriter:
Everything listed above as our problem are actually SYMPTOMS indicating that something is terribly wrong. If you or any serious seeker want to know the CAUSE behind the curtain , read the book: intellectual slavery, the worst legacy of colonialism https://www.nairaland.com/4595660/intellectual-slavery-worst-legacy-colonialism

You have started again


The man os right and you know it.

Bsuedu:
People feeling safe bc of their paperwork. Some Latinos/Hispanics was feeling safe bc they did it the right way. And now a couple of months ago a taskforce was set up to go thru naturalized citizen's paperwork. Any " discrepancy" found will cause a revoking of citizenship. Even progressive whites realize this is a problem. Nobody is safe. Latinos now, Africans next.

it's crazy mehn


The uproar is very loud in the public space

but dimwitted nicompoop from third world shithole still sing his praises.

it's amusing

no be today we know say women like to play the victim card and whip up sentiments


Na their way so I'm not surprised

.Anu ofia di ka gi

MrBrownJay1:
by all means (culled from my reply on a previous thread):
- if you have a successful biz in Europe (France), you can sometimes pay up to 60% (40% in UK) of your gross income IN TAXES (thats 60Kobos out of every Naira you earn going to the gov). in Nigeria, you would easily get away with paying less than 30%.
- in Europe, the minimum wage for a full time staff would be between 600/1000€ monthly (and thats the bottom). while in Nigeria, you can easily find thousands of graduates ready to work for ₦40K monthly.
- in the west, you must pay social contribution (about 15% of salary) of all your staff to the gov. In Nigeria, you dont need to.
- in the west, if i want to give more than €10K to my children, my spouse, my family member (or even a stranger), that person MUST pay taxes on that gift. in Nigeria, i can give anyone even BILLIONS, and they wont have to pay a kobo.
- in the west, if i die and in my will i leave cars/house/biz/money in the bank, my children/wife (or whoever i will leave my wealth to) must pay 40% taxes (minimum) of the total value of my asset, to the gov. example: i leave a house of €500K, a car of 250K and 250K in cash to my children (totall €1M asset), before my kids can own/inherit my wealth, they must pay €400K to the Gov in taxes. if they dont have the money to pay, then the gov will SELL my car or house, pay taxes, and give my children the rest. In Nigeria, what you leave in your will is EXACTLY what they get.
- in the west, there is very small potentail for biz, while Africa has SO MUCH MORE potential....a smart person can easily/quickly become successful
- if you own a home in the west, you must pay taxes every year on that house.
- in Europe, petrole for your car cost €1.8 per litre, so you will spend no less than 130€ (depending on your car) to fill the tank up. how much is gas in Nigeria again? exactly!
- getting a good job in the west is not as easy as it seem, and many are left to do menial jobs to survive... especially now with the influx of foreigners and refugees everywhere, and as much as i know many will gladly clean toilets for a minimum wage, after a few years doing it, you will have a change of mind. how would you even get a working visa to begin with?! as being illegal is the worst possible decision one can make. i wont even dwell on our lost brothers who join the slave market (aka marrying a beef looking ugly woman in the west to become slaves to these animals and get papers in the same process)
- cost of living in the west (food, transport etc) is HIGH, while in Africa...
- In the west, if you want to go on a road trip, you have to pay motorway toll gate. Paris to Marseille you pay a total of 60€ for that 7hr journey, how much is lekki toll bridge again? exactly!
- if you violate my kids or catch you doing something illegal, i can easily tie you up throw a tyre over your head and send you to your maker. if i have an issue that needs to be dealt with, i can easily pay some Mopol in Nigeria to help me sort it out ASAP!
- but the biggest advantage of them all, is that Nigeria IS HOME, and no matter how long you stay in the west, it is NOT your home. after a while (when you get use to the working infrastructures, free healthcare/education etc) YOUR PRIORITIES WILL UPGRADE, and you will now miss the little things that make Nigeria special. the food, the culture, the "good" people, the smell, the family, the bribe, the biz potential etc

but here is what really important here: i cant tell you NOT to go to the west, because if you stay in Nigeria, your heart will always be yearning to leave what "you" believe is a shithole (aka greass is always greener bla bla bla). it is only when you will have tasted the beauty/madness of the west that you will be able to make your own decision on the subject. but believe me, the reason why "many" Nigerians dont go back home is because they are living from paycheck to paycheck and are ashamed to go back with NOTHING to show for (after decades in the west)

Hmmm

well every one to his own


But as for me and my family, it's goodbye to that sh.ithole

Though i miss the ogbono soup tho

Hakeem12:
That Nigerians still engage in money rituals and believe it to bring some form of wealth still goes to show how primitive some people are in this country. If rituals worked, everyone would be rich. We spill blood of innocent people , buy spare parts of human beings all with the hope that they will bring good fortunes.




[color=#F5A215]There was a country [/color]

it's very terrible nwanne

Organism000:
24 State Chapters of APC are factionalized.

So, what on Earth are you talking about ? APC is dead and buried, and no amount of propaganda will save this one, not even trying to do damage control on news paper can help.

Oshomole knows the implication, that is why he is apologizing, but you guys on nairaland are too emotional to see things the way they are. I understand how painful it is to see the party you support fagmented, so it is natural to feel the sense of disbelief which is why you are working on overdrive to hold on to the last straw that could help heal the disbelief.

Buhari had a chance to write his name on Gold, but he squandered it on the alter of nepotism from day 1. He termed others 5% and went as far as ignore the killings all over the country. Even SARS mayhem, he has said nothing about it.

There is a point in life where you must abandon a sinking ship or drown with it. And I know most of you will drown with this ship, instead of being independent minded humans and standing with the country instead of standing with politicians and their parties.

I think some of you are mentally sick without even knowing it. You are ready to obfuscate the truth just to maintain your elusive ego.

Shame.

no mind them

Africa and babaric practices


While the rest of the world is moving forward, we are still basking in advanced foolishness

oshe11:
Mehn......


The day I followed my friend there.......



I was marvelled at the People I saw.....


Celebs(I nor wan mention names), Men that matters, etc......

you dont mean it

Koval12:
Even ladies have joined in this nairaland tribalism? Even God knows that I don't belong here. This country is truly for mad people. Instead of thinking of a way to salvage this country, they are here displaying hatred and tribalism. Nigeria is doomed

when I say it in the other thread, it will be like I'm crazy

You can see for yourself

peacengine:
Guy I suspect u are Nnamdi KANU. U don't seem to have any meaningful use of ur time other than to criticize a country where u don't live and u have vowed several times not to move to or raise ur kids. Move on with ur life bro, raise ur kids, life's too short to be negative especially since uve given up. Respex bro leave naja matter get ursef a wife and ball ur life. My guy de come abhijan send ur email make we relate

LMAO

I am not Nnamdi Kanu o

I despise that guy

baby124:
The Chinese face the same discrimination but they live in closed up communities. The last time black people tried to create a closed up community it was bombed. That was black wall street, look it up. There is so much suspicion and hate just because you are black. If you face discrimination then you sympathize with African Americans in how they have given up as all their efforts to rise above their situation is somehow blocked. Now, instead of educating those at home about the reality of life of a black man abroad, we have morons like this Moni painting it as heaven. When it is clearly not.

yes I know about black walk street in Oklahoma

But I don't think it was bombed tho

The racist democrat government of the south instigated the white people to destroy the place

But I hear the place is still thriving today.

blavl folk should build their own communities, that's the solution, and in that way, you will gain more respect

on the positive side tho, I met a guy at the airport late last year and we got talking
he asked me where I was from and I told him and he had good things to say about Nigerian students in his school and how they are doing well.
And I got to quora when I got to my destination and did some digging, and found out that indeed, many share that sentiments that Nigeians, along with Indians do so well in the school system and are better off on the average


Black communities need to step up, that's just the long and short of it

we complain of racial profiling but almost every shop lifter caught is of a certain demographic, the gangster, etc



We blacks will not feel so comfortable if an Arab is sitting next to us dressed up like the stereotypical bomber with a school bag, then harmlessly say Allah ahbat, or Ahamudillah

most blacks will freak out

We need to step up

ogongogames:
Some of the responses on this thread made me chuckle. Majority of you will bribe, cheat and steal etc as well if opportunity presented itself where you would be in a influential position. Weren't some of these "Rich" folk young like you at some point? Didn't some of them come from poor backgrounds initially, did their humble beginnings stop them?

My biggest issue with Nigeria was the mentality. it's a dog eats dog world. Too much envy and desperation. However there are some fantastic, lovely and God-fearing people in that country and as long as such people exist...Nigeria is worth it. This coming from someone who was born and bred abroad. Having lived in Nigeria for just over a year I sympathize with her frustrations. She was probably just having a bad day when she made that post.

You are right about the dog eat dog part

RedboneSmith:
What stops me from doing the same here? LOL. You seriously think it is a level playing field for everyone out here? You really ain't that naive, are you?

baby124:
Don’t mind him. Rich people get away with everything all over the world. It’s the middle class that he is talking about. The rich do and undo except when other rich people gang up on them to bring them down. Only then will the Law be used to prevail. He will never understand until he is caught up in an issue with a rich person. Lol. Human beings are humans everywhere in the world o. Don’t be deceived.

Humans are humans everywhere I agree


But a country governed by laws and a lawless one is what makes the difference

There are many cases in Nigeria that are swept under the carpet that would not be had it been a western country


If Nigeria manages to become a country ruled by law, Nigeria will be transformed in 10 years.

The rich out there still know the limit to what they can get away with, not Nigeria

You can get away with ANYTHING and be brazen about it.

baby124:
You think only you has lived in America? Some of us are older and have seen the underbelly. We have seen behind the facade and know how the system truly works. Painting a country as heaven and the other one as hell is wrong. All countries have their defects and their positives. Painting one country as such a good place to make it for everyone is a bloody lie. Some people will never make it in America, but will make it in Nigeria. People go to America with expectations that can never be met based on the stories they have heard from morons like this girl, this is where they need to be warned about the realities of life in a foreign land. Some Nigerians do not know what it feels like to face discrimination and how debilitating and disgusting it is. Stop prancing around this thread like you are the only one that has travelled out of the country.

naa I don't live in America tho

I'm a nomad.who travels a whole lot

But living as an Igbo man in Nigeria is enough training to face discrimination anywhere

The country is bleeped, simple and short

black man who complained about discrimination is the same one shouting Afonja and flattino.


but you are right tho

America is a difficult country to live in too, especially with no support system

But if one's goal is to pack money he could remain in Nigeria

There are so many illegal and sharp ways to make money there

MrBrownJay1:
bro, its the same ALL OVER THE WORLD.... well known criminals will play the law and get out on bail and play the system with appeal upon appeals for decades, corrupt officials will openly do their tricks and go unpunished. pharmaceutical companies are killing billions of people every year with their poison in our food (or their man made diseases such as cancer/aids/ebola etc) yet go unpunished. bro wake up o!

yes the west is a great place, but there is just as much crimes and crooked rich people there as any other place on earth.

Rich people get convicted more abroad than Nigeria

If you are a rich man in Nigeria, you can get away with owing salaries
can you try that elsewhere?

I still stand by my word, the rich are here because the country is LAWLESS

baby124:
No country is perfect, don’t be deceived. America still battling with a lot of racism especially at this trump time. She will rush back to Nigeria in a few months. There are many poor people in America and the system is not designed for you to succeed if you are not white. Many people get stuck in the cycle of just living an average life and trying to survive. A lot of families cannot boast of 1,000 dollar in savings in America, think about that for a second and how many families are one health bill away from homelessness. Nigeria still gives the chance to create wealth. We just need to get our acts together. Nigeria is far better than countries in the west in so many respects. Though we lack infrastructure.

Did you say that Nigeria is better than countries in the west

Delusion.

American society is driven by innovation

That is why Apple, Uber Google, Starbucks, Facebook, E bay and so many other innovations pop out of there

What innovation comes out of your dead country?

There is inequality in the USA, yes due to the capitalism in place that they practice, but anyone; Any one can succeed in that country if he or she is willing to put in the work, that is why millions move there annually.

People are not stupid, if America did not have such appeal, millions will not want to move there

Why are people not flooding Belgium,?

You guys should just accept it, Nigeria is a Destiny killing dead country and I thank God everyday that my lineage has escaped