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triple996:
If the police had shot them you will be d wan that will kill police and shout end police

The don't have to shot them though.

Why go from zero enforcement all the way to draconian punishment?

What I'm saying is just be like a half decent country, just a half decent country, chai.

A half decent country with a police force that GIVES CHASE, PULLS PEOPLE OVER, WRITES TICKETS, IMPOUNDS VEHICLES, VERIFIES LICENSES ON THE SPOT...

Not a police force that either does nothing, or goes right to the extreme to shot people due to their laziness...

and they can shoot stubborn drivers that don't want to take a ticket with a STUN GUN, which every police officer in Nigeria should have at this point if we were a half decent country.

YoonSung81:
Is like you just came to Lagos

bro, I was born and bred in Lagos, but also lived outside Nigeria for a while

It's just frustrating seeing laws broken and broken and broken and the enforcers just sitting down, literally.

I have no where else to voice out my complaints, it's just sad bro.

Do you know how many times someone has almost crushed me because they ran their red light as mine was green and they will just be laughing, I guess they know that there is no punishment whatsoever for their crimes, so they might as well laugh as they put everyone else in danger.

Some will even run through the RED light with GREAT speeds that you'd think their lights were green.

Accidents that could be easily avoided.

Yesterday in Lekki, I saw upwards of 10 cars running a certain RED light at around Jakande area while I was waiting my light to turn GREEN.

What made this especially painful is that there was a squad of police right besides the traffic light. What were they doing? They were just sitting down and gisting on their pickup.

Can you imagine? In what other country will people run red lights right in front of police and the police will just be laughing with Ak47s in their hands? and it wasn't just one car, but multiple cars totally disregarding their RED lights.

Are we so primitive that we are now totally averse to Law and Order in this land? That the police won't even make an attempt to maintain traffic rules unless at their own convenience? Unless traffic is at a standstill via checkpoints? is that they only time police would do traffic work?

Imagine how dangerous it is to be driving with confidence because the light in front of you has turned GREEN, not knowing that a MANIAC is about to smash into you because he ran his RED light and worse still police doesn't give a flying fvk

I would have taken a picture and posted here, it was such a disgusting sight as some of the cars that ran red lights drove right past the police squad.

How can we have such a useless police squad that can't even GIVE CHASE? What good is a police squad if all they do is park their car at a junction and gist inside?

What good is that?

Oh my Nigeria...


God helps us!

closing time and still no traffic at the toll gate.

Funny is how some Nigerians themselves, were supporting the continuation of the toll gate.

These are quotes from a thread were Bode George advices the cancellation of the toll:

tamdun:
So u want Lagos to close one of their major source of income, e b like say old age dey worry bode gorge

9jatriot:
Is this how these guys want to be governors in Lagos state, destroy one income generating asset for the state in the name of politics? If you do not like the toll gate, there are a thousand and one places in Lagos without toll gate you can stay in. If you even stay in Lekki axis, you can even use the alternative routes to avoid paying.

The toll gate they removed nation wide made our highway worse than when it existed to the extent that they are considering building new ones on our highways

I concur

dorothy111:
Since independence, Nigeria has never had a leader. What we have is tribalistic warlords and rulers.
Peace

No leader anywhere.

When im driving in Lagos, sometimes I feel like crying to God, like why is there so much chaos in Nigeria.

Ordinary driving, we can’t even get right...

No leadership to promote driving rules, law and order.

This country can be like a jungle sometimes.

See cars flying past red traffic light in broad daylight with ZERO PUNISHMENT, sigh

God help us!

GroundnutSoup9:
Trump/white supremacists no go like this news at all.

See how media has gotten to you.

Tell me just one attack by so called white supremacist that you know of

Sigh

Media will just be saying white supremacy, meanwhile America burnt last summer and there was not one white supremacist to be found, instead, there were many Black Lives Matter ppl present, smh

Keep looking for ghosts like white supremacists

FactBoyz:
After destroying properties and items in riots against Trump in Portland and Washington, they are nominated for Nobel Prize? Onedafu!

Not just property bro, check the death toll from the riots..

Seriously do some research and you’ll see the death toll is about 30

Research Captain David Dorn

Research the little child shot in the car with her grandma

The same Black Lives Matter that rioted all summer last year?

The same guys that burnt down city after city?

The same guys that destroyed businesses to the tune of billions of dollars?


THE SAME GUYS THAT CAUSED THE DEATH OF OVER 30 people last summer?



I just hate hypocrisy!

One riot on one day by so called republicans and they term it insurrection, but burn down cities, kill children and destroy businesses and they give you a Nobel prize

May God help us all.

Every region needs it's own Legitimate Police Force, like how you have LAPD and NYPD, but also FBI to as the big overseer. However, when you ask the people in the Senate and House, they will tell you...

"We are not ready for State Police"

ask them 5 years from now they will tell you

"We are not ready for State Police"

ask them 10 years from now, they will tell you

"We are not ready for State Police"

ask them 20 years from now, they will tell you

"We are not ready for State Police"

...

Naijaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


It's like that post here on nairaland that compared the picture of Ibadan from the 70s and 2020, where the 70s picture looked better and more developed. I guess we know the reason for such lack of development...

"We are not ready..."

madmohamed:
I call him prison president. A president that will not address his people is that one a president? The monkey in Aso Rock cage is dead brain

If you do a YouTube search for Buhari and filter for this month, all you will see is mini videos of him walking about, no audio, no engagement, sigh.

The only audio for this month I've seen, is the new years address, and that was just a ONE WAY SPEECH, as in, no questions, just him reading.

My point in all of this is that Buhari has set the bar so low... The next president can come in and be even worse, in that, you may never see him/her throughout their tenure.

At least the people we borrow democracy from have leaders that do QUESTIONS and ANSWERS.

Look at Trump... and even Biden that I personally don't like, still engages reporters.

Imagine if American citizens never saw their president, and only got few pictures a month and edited ONE-WAY addresses every 3 to 6 months. I'm sure they'd be asking questions.

helinues:
Yet you are not aware the picture was taken this week with the new service chief.

Don't allow hatred to build mansion in your heart

Hatred? lol

So asking for press conferences and interviews from your president equates to hatred?

I just don't understand how a democratic president eschews engagement with the people, either directly or via the press, and chooses instead to offer up images to placate the yearnings of the people to hear from their leader.

helinues:
If some people insist they can't see anything good in you, just give them a hug cos life can be difficult for a blind to see

Pictures, pictures and more pictures, that's all you guys ever post.

Aren't you ashamed?

You couldn't even link to a recent PRESS CONFERENCE, or interview with CHANNELS, AIT, BBC, ALJAZEERA... heck, even NTA...

You just post some "Instagram-like" picture, like what? We are supposed to rate his dressing? Ok, Nice shoes I guess, but can we ask him one or two questions?

Tofax:
You don't know Buhari is now a statue deity. He doesn't visit anywhere to see things for himself rather people rush to see him in his inclave (Aso villa) to consult with him about happenings in the country. The only time we saw him was when he tour the country for his own campaign in 2015 & 2019

isn't this crazy though? what you just said and the fact that Nigerians are okay with such a president?

It's like crazy has become normal, to have a president no one sees.

Have you seen your president at all this month?

Any interviews with reporters?

The president/presidency that no one ever sees, chai

This issue is becoming serious oooo

Yesterday they were even more at that lekki phase 1 traffic light, about 15 boys stormed the cars when the traffic light went red.

It makes you feel so unsafe to be stuck at the traffic light at night with boys surrounding your car and no police man in sight

May God help Nigeria

It seems that at every junction in Lagos, every intersection, every traffic light stop is ridden with a multitude of child beggars.

Just last night, at a traffic light stop in Lekki, there were about 10 teenage beggars that surrounded cars when the light turned RED.

Is there anything like Child Protection Services in Nigeria? For how long will we continue to allow this?

What future are we giving to those children?

How does this make the Nigerian society look and how does this affect things like tourism?

There really has to be a solution to this issue.


Left to me, these children should be FORCEFULLY taken away from their parents and educated or trained in a new skill to get them off the streets. This has to be done URGENTLY and CONSISTENTLY (not just a one day raid, but and EVERYDAY RAID).

Baawaa:
This man should contest for president

but, but, will people vote for him?

or will they tell us why a Buhari that was a coup plotting dictator, is much much better than a highly skilled and educated fellow

After all, Nigerians were saying back then that "They will vote Buhari even if he presents NEPA bill as certificate'


GEJ did not debate, and won presidential election
Buhari did not debate and won presidential election


Do you see the pattern?

Nigerians seem to hate thinkers and do not care about policy one bit... just tribe tribe tribe and maybe garri


OPEN any Tinubu 2023 thread, YOU WILL NOT FIND ONE POST ABOUT POLICY, NOT ONE. All you will find is Yorubas turn, jagaban and IPOB


what a people

amnesty for people that have murdered thousands

BananaPeel:
People of his caliber should be President.

No!

Nigerians prefer drug lords and fetish corrupt leaders that hide the money for road repair for a whole state in their mattress

Can't you already hear them shouting TInubu 2023 and Atiku 2023?

Imagine these guys had been asking for amnesty for killers since back then

tutudesz:
Yeah are hardly enforced here agreed, but the Lagos law state that you may either be fined, jail or your car auctioned off.
We have to start somewhere, because lawlessness is the second name of Nigerians.
America has a lay down law and punishment for breaking those law, so need of begging the police.

Where do we draw the line though on appropriate punishment?

Let's take an extreme example, would death be a befitting punishment for traffic offenses?

Seems too severe right? Obviously!

What I'm trying to say is that auctioning peoples vehicles is also severe... and we do not need to be that severe if we had consistent law enforcement. It's that simple!

People tend to beg more in Nigeria even for minor traffic offenses, as opposed to the U.S like you stated (people still beg in the U.S but definitely not like Nigeria that they will lay down and take off their clothes, lol), because in the U.S, the penalties are appropriate for the offenses, for the most part. Additionally, you are simply issued a ticket for minor traffic offenses and allowed to go about your day, as opposed to here in Nigeria, where the police can waste your whole day for a simple offense. Back in the day, you even had to follow them to their station and abandon all your days activities, no matter how important they were, for the simplest of traffic offenses.

Do you remember when you had to pay upwards of N50,000 fine for using your phone as you drive? Of course people in a poor nation would beg when issued such a huge fine for texting; A fine higher that was more than 150% of the country's minimum wage.

helinues:
Go and protest about it and stop bugging us

No room for intellectual discourse?

In all honesty, Nigeria has never really had good adminstration.

I opened a thread asking people if they know what it means to get "Pulled Over" by police, and I'm not talking about check points or "STOP STOP STOP!!", or hitting your car with a stick...

If not for Hollywood movies, how many Nigerians would know that when police sirens are behind you, it means to pull over?

In fact, how many police squad cars put on sirens for the purpose of pulling people over and not to drive aggressively through traffic jams?


To go from a society that doesn't even have police squad cars that pull people over, to, auctioning peoples cars, just reeks of disorganization and of course we all know that Nigeria is a disorganized society.


Imagine a 21st century leader, that spends part of his/her first year in office, sensitizing drivers and police officers on what it means to get PULLED OVER

tutudesz:
A average Nigerian has this mentality that he can get away with anything, last last if Dem catch me na fine I go pay. Last 2 weeks some cars were auction off and now the same thing, someone after hearing such news will still drive one way.
Strong law can't stop crimes, but they can reduce it. Malaysia law on drugs is death, but yet people still carry drugs there.

You said the average Nigerian feels like they can get away with anything...

Have you asked yourself why that is?

Seriously, think deep...

Don't you think it's because laws are HARDLY EVER ENFORCED in Nigeria? Or is it because peoples cars were not being auctioned? Be honest with your soul.

When I drive in Dallas, I am always on the look out for police, cause I can get stopped for something as "SIMPLE" as driving on the lane marking, which NO NIGERIAN IN HISTORY HAS EVER BEEN STOPPED FOR IN NIGERIA.

Please think, open your mind, I will strive as well to always keep an open mind. Thank you!

madridguy:
To me Lagos State government are not doing enough. If I have my way one way driver should be treated as coupist and send to gallow with no any option of fine or jail term.

If you know what one way has caused many families, you won't be here advocating for them.

A very good friend of mine was knocked down to death by one way driver on the 29th December 2009 and the guy passed away on the 31st of same year leaving behind a son, wife, father and mother.

Only Ambulance carrying someone in critical condition should be permitted to follow one and not even the one carrying dead body.

One way driving

I am not advocating for them to break the law, I am advocating for consistent enforcement of driving rules, which if done, would not require draconian penalties and would promote LAW and Order in society, preventing things like what happened to your good friend from happening in the first place.

Anybody, any driver, that knocks down a pedestrian on a sidewalk whether one way or not, should face criminal charges.

May his soul rest in peace, amen.

I was going through the DJ switch thread in which she condemned the Lagos State Government for auctioning cars of those that drive one way:-

https://www.nairaland.com/6372248/thief-dj-switch-slams-lagos

On that thread, a lot of people are abusing her, and it just shows why Nigeria is mostly the way it is, that even now, we continue to support things that don't make sense.

I am a serious advocate of LAW and ORDER, check my topics on nairaland, but even I would not support the IMMEDIATE auctioning of peoples vehicles for traffic offenses.

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See, here's the thing about Nigeria.

We are NEVER consistent in anything, most especially in maintaining LAW and ORDER!

For example, instead of enforcing driving laws 24/7/265, we don't enforce anything and let chaos reign for 99% of the time. Then that 1% of the time that we want to enforce the law, we enact penalties sooooo HARSH, because we want to make up for that 99% time that we were not doing anything. It's like a student in school that knows he/she has an exam in 2 weeks. They have the choice of preparing a LITTLE per day, or waiting till the day before and cramming in MASSIVE amounts of information in one night.

Let me tell you the truth, if we had police officers that PATROLED (very important here, you can't have officers at only checkpoints or standing, or sleeping in their car), and enforced driving laws every minute, you would not even see that many drivers doing extreme and obviously wrong things like driving ONE-WAY.

Doing this, you get to keep the fines reasonable, since you are ALWAYS ENFORCING THE LAW.

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Now lets talk about ERRORS, yes ERRORS...

No system or individual is devoid of errors, so you are guaranteed to make some driving errors in you driving lifetime.

What happens when you make an error of driving one way, because you didn't know the street you are on doesn't permit that.

Should the outcome of your single error on that day result in the loss of your vehicle?



Fines should be reasonable, and ONE-WAY drivers should definitely get larger and harsher fines, but auctioning a car immediately is just INHUMANE!

Why you had to state your tribe? I don't know!

I guess it just boils down to how you subconsciously realize that decisions Nigerians make when choosing a leader revolve NOT around the leaders love for the Nation and it's citizens, OR, their ability to inspire innovation and problem solving, NO NO NO NO NO...

...What you realize, I guess, is that most Nigerians make voting decisions based on tribe and maybe some garri and palm oil; talk about a 21st century electorate, BRILLIANT!!!

So tell us why again, you are choosing another usual crook to further balkanize our land, destroying lives of our brothers and sisters? Tell us, we are all ears, and can't wait for a further collapse of Nigeria


TODAY, Dollar is almost N500, that news is on front page... How much is rice again? Okay!


Continue

May God forgive all of you... Sometimes, I do wonder if all of you are demons that enjoy the tears and suffering of people.

Then they will tell you the likes of Sowore, Moghalu will make bad leaders, cause they are brilliant, but not ready.

I mean, you elected a coup plotter?

You campaigned for a coup plotter?

If Hitler was alive today and a Nigerian, I'm sure most of you will vote for him over a Sowore or another intellectual

7lives:
Swore ko, zobo drink ni.
Show me any proof of Sowore's performance in public office as an ordinary councilor.
Go and employ someone who has never worked as a clerk, as an MD of your company and watch your bussiness collapse, how much more an office of the president.
Trump in all his glory had turned America upside down, how much more a nuisance like zobore.
Ariwo ko ni music jor.

lol, you are so funny, ignorant, but funny...

So lemme get this straight, you'd rather give an ex dictator/coup plotter in Buhari a chance, than give A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS MAN a chance?

I'm telling you, most Nigerians would have been among the crowd shouting "FREE BARABAS", instead of urging to free Jesus Christ.

You Nigerians, will dive deep into the depths of HELL to find a leader, but will give all manner of excuses why a relatively GOOD MAN, will make a bad leader.


I mean just let this sink in. A man plotted a coup and then you elected him

That's like electing Hitler if he were still alive, and I wouldn't put it above Nigerians to elect a Hitler, if he was among an influential tribe, cause they will say "he is our brother"


May God helps us ALL!

olatuns2017:
Who is your dad?


Hey go pain una die

but won't it pain you too?

dollar is almost N500, everything in the market is expensive

I just want to know if you guys will be exempt from the stupid decisions you make?

Or are you living in a different Nigeria?

I guess this is the dream country you have for your children, and you will tell them you did this just to spite IGBO; a very proud dad you will be. One that destroyed his country for tribal bragging rights, not even real rights...



That's why when hollywood depicted Wakanda, I just laughed... Like Nigerians with their tribal mentality can ever build a WAKANDA

Nukilia:
That shows us the government is responsible for every hardship the citizens go through...

I won't say EVERY, but definitely a large portion

When they were collecting the toll, they didn't even try to organize the queues, all they cared bout was collecting that money

Sometimes, even when they had only like two stalls open and 200 cars waiting, they would still make sure that ALL OF THOSE CARS CRAWL THROUGH AND PAY! Nothing like, letting everyone pass, since traffic was building, lie lie. Even if the traffic built from TOLL GATE to 1004, and there was just ONE STALL OPEN, THEY MUST ALL PAY!

That toll on lekki-epe, was really heartless, especially since it wasn't a NEW ROAD, like lekki-Ikoyi link bridge.