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It seems the only people in support of the toll gate re-opening are the government and their social media agents

If only we had the power to put these corrupt governors in jail

As most Lagosians have testified, there has been no traffic at the toll plaza on lekki epe since it went out of operation.

So you pay toll to endure hours of traffic, while your car is getting bashed left and right due to the chaos at the toll gate. Then you make your way through the gate and you are greeted by a 10km stretch of road with NO LANE MARKINGS (except for a few meters), few functioning street lights, potholes and crazy drivers with zero law enforcement...

They claim they lost billions in these few months that it has been shutdown, so think about it, how much money have they made since it has been in operation all these years? How many billions? For those that keep shouting PPP up and down, how much has been paid back and how much is left? They probably don't know, but will be the first to shout PPP, to further their corrupt masters continued graft.

seunmsg:
Hopefully, people that supported Taiwo Oyedele’s views about the need for Nigeria to stop borrowing to finance public infrastructure and instead invest private investor to build and operate them can read the opinion of people like you and change their mindset.

Don’t put words in my mouth.

I am in support of the toll at lekki-ikoyi bridge for instance, cause it was BUILT FROM SCRATCH and solves a problem. Lekki Epe is meant to be the free alternative to ikoyi, while lekki-ikoyi bridge should be the tolled and FASTER alternative to ikoyi.

Imagine if the federal government decided to place a toll on the third mainland bridge after the current repair work ends. How well would that sit with majority of Lagosians who would now have to pay N200 to use the third mainland bridge? Not too well I presume, because that is a free road they’ve become accustomed to.

Now imagine tolling a 4th mainland bridge, do you think there would be as much, if any, outcry over the tolling of such a bridge? Probably not, since commuters know they would still have the option of a free 3rd mainland bridge, should they elect not to pay the toll to use the 4th.

If the government wants to build new audacious projects and toll them, then that debate can be had, but we cannot have a debate for tolling roads already in existence simply because they repaired such roads or upgraded them.

seunmsg:
Another lawless online mob who think himself a jurist. Once the place is open, go and shut it down.

Seunmsg, one of the chief advocates for mass suffering, I wonder, do you run on tears or something?

Always on the negative side of history.

Here you are again, defending an illegal toll gate, despite the respite commuters have gotten these past few months the toll has been inoperable.

Mynd44:
Toll gates everywhere in the world are there to generate money for infrastructure and maintain those you already have.

All over the world toll gates exist and they serve well. The presence of toll gates does not point to extortion. I believe the government should actually concession major highways and let the companies raise tolls to generate their funds back. That will increase the quality of road and also provide a better road network in Nigeria.

As to Lekki Tollgate, it is a "crime scene", LCC commit any crime so why punish them in perpetuity? Remember that there are also Nigerians who are employed at the tollgate

This excuse is not tenable

Have you ever been to Houston?

You have the Sam Houston toll way for instance which has alternative highways if you want to avoid the toll.

Note I said “Alternative HIGHWAYS”, not alternative one lane, pothole ridden, market roads.

That lekki epe toll gate is the very definition of illegality and the cause of mass suffering. Why would you ever advocate for your people to suffer, I just don’t get it.

ba7man:
Nigga hush. If you can't afford the toll, take the alternative route.

Wow!

So you put gate in front of a road that was already leading to people’s house, then you now say if they can’t pay they should turn around

Naija sha and it’s people

Collectively, the majority push for bad policies, then turn around to wonder why Nigeria is dead last in almost everything.

buckeyemedia:
Stop systematic witch hunting shadow boxing cowards, yesterday it was report burutai to toothless ICC for killing Boko Haram members?, why the toll gate? because you presume it is linked to Jagaban Tinubu? If you want to accuse, accuse the system, don’t pick & choose based on bigotry sentiments.

I don’t give a flying pig about your demigod

I’m asking why you are so vehemently in support of an evil toll gate, making for one of the most expensive roads on the world.

What is your benefit in seeing something that causes chaos, mass suffering and extortion continue?

If you want, you can put toll gate in front of your house. In fact, turn your house gate to toll gate, so that anytime you pass, you will remit that money to the government.

Are you not happy that traffic has reduced by several orders of magnitude? If we were to quantify the reduction in traffic as a percentage, we would be taking of close to a 100 percent reduction of traffic. From chaos, to breezy...

But this upsets you, doesn’t it? You can’t have us having anything good can you?

People now get to work on time and refreshed...
Emergency vehicles now have a better chance or quelling emergencies...
Shuttle times have greatly reduced...
....


But all this upsets you doesn’t it?


You fight so hard to keep your brothers and sisters in bondage.

If you ever wonder how Nigeria got so bad, just read comments here

People stripping naked in the market square to defend their oppressors who pilfer and pillage.


Just look at the typical example of ease of traffic. Despite the fact that people testify to no more traffic on lekki epe due to removal of the toll gate, these evil people on this thread wanting the gates re-instated, don’t mind that chaos and traffic will return.

They are always on the side of chaos, always.


They support it when military kills civilians, when politicians steal, police brutalizes...

See dem shouting for the toll gate to return as they are eager, very eager to return to mass suffering.

The fact that commuters on that route presently have ease of traffic and peace of mind irks them, it upsets the evil ones badly, like, “how dare they enjoy anything good in this land called Nigeria, we must return them to hardship and chaos”

buckeyemedia:
Was Endsars about Lekki toll gate? Criminals.

What are you saying?

and why are you defending robbery of your fellow citizens so vehemently?

Do you receive a percentage of the toll fee? If you don’t, then I mean, sigh, sigh sigh

hush15:
That toll gate is even more of a pain than gain. Road that has been free of traffic since end SARS will resume traffic again all in the name of tax.

Even the money made is not reflecting on the state. Only in some pockets.

Forget about state, even on the road you pay for, you won’t see see lanes.

Compare that to third mainland bridge, a FREE road with lane markings and street lights.

The corruption on lekki epe is through the roof... I’m talking MEGA corruption... MOST EXPENSIVE ROAD IN THE WORLD, with no lanes, no street lights, and no law and order.

infogeneral:
Some people want Lagos State to be broke like their state of origins that can not pay workers' salary for months.
This is one of the IGR means for State government to manage a mega city like Lagos.

Advise your state government to look inward for IGR to develop your state.

What area do you live?

Do you pay the toll everyday?

I read today how HISBAH destroyed drinks at a Hotel establishment and this is not the first time they've done this.

How come though, the military isn't sent after them?


I have never heard of HISBAH being described as an illegal police force by ANYBODY IN GOVERNMENT!

The IGP, COAS, Presidency, SENATE, HOUSE.... All silent regarding the LEGALITY of HISBAH.


What makes HISBAH legal and Amotekun and ESN "illegal"?


Personally, I'd rather have state police instead of all these shadow forces?

badaru911:
... You haven't stop for a red traffic light and patiently expecting it to turn green for almost an hour before realizing it that it's malfunctioning... One day you gonna be in that situation, what will you do.... Jump the light or wait....
Actually it's not good to disobey the traffic light.. But in this country, many things are crazy...

The lights I am referring to were not malfunctioning though.

It was clear for all road users to see that the lights were cycling normally.

YoonSung81:
Its not new to me sha, I see this impatient Danfos bypass Red light mostly, at VGC traffic light.

Oh my gosh, EXACTLY! So you know!

We can try to overlook it, but how many things will we overlook in this country?

triple996:
If the police had shot them you will be d wan that will kill police and shout end police

The don't have to shot them though.

Why go from zero enforcement all the way to draconian punishment?

What I'm saying is just be like a half decent country, just a half decent country, chai.

A half decent country with a police force that GIVES CHASE, PULLS PEOPLE OVER, WRITES TICKETS, IMPOUNDS VEHICLES, VERIFIES LICENSES ON THE SPOT...

Not a police force that either does nothing, or goes right to the extreme to shot people due to their laziness...

and they can shoot stubborn drivers that don't want to take a ticket with a STUN GUN, which every police officer in Nigeria should have at this point if we were a half decent country.

YoonSung81:
Is like you just came to Lagos

bro, I was born and bred in Lagos, but also lived outside Nigeria for a while

It's just frustrating seeing laws broken and broken and broken and the enforcers just sitting down, literally.

I have no where else to voice out my complaints, it's just sad bro.

Do you know how many times someone has almost crushed me because they ran their red light as mine was green and they will just be laughing, I guess they know that there is no punishment whatsoever for their crimes, so they might as well laugh as they put everyone else in danger.

Some will even run through the RED light with GREAT speeds that you'd think their lights were green.

Accidents that could be easily avoided.

Yesterday in Lekki, I saw upwards of 10 cars running a certain RED light at around Jakande area while I was waiting my light to turn GREEN.

What made this especially painful is that there was a squad of police right besides the traffic light. What were they doing? They were just sitting down and gisting on their pickup.

Can you imagine? In what other country will people run red lights right in front of police and the police will just be laughing with Ak47s in their hands? and it wasn't just one car, but multiple cars totally disregarding their RED lights.

Are we so primitive that we are now totally averse to Law and Order in this land? That the police won't even make an attempt to maintain traffic rules unless at their own convenience? Unless traffic is at a standstill via checkpoints? is that they only time police would do traffic work?

Imagine how dangerous it is to be driving with confidence because the light in front of you has turned GREEN, not knowing that a MANIAC is about to smash into you because he ran his RED light and worse still police doesn't give a flying fvk

I would have taken a picture and posted here, it was such a disgusting sight as some of the cars that ran red lights drove right past the police squad.

How can we have such a useless police squad that can't even GIVE CHASE? What good is a police squad if all they do is park their car at a junction and gist inside?

What good is that?

Oh my Nigeria...


God helps us!

closing time and still no traffic at the toll gate.

Funny is how some Nigerians themselves, were supporting the continuation of the toll gate.

These are quotes from a thread were Bode George advices the cancellation of the toll:

tamdun:
So u want Lagos to close one of their major source of income, e b like say old age dey worry bode gorge

9jatriot:
Is this how these guys want to be governors in Lagos state, destroy one income generating asset for the state in the name of politics? If you do not like the toll gate, there are a thousand and one places in Lagos without toll gate you can stay in. If you even stay in Lekki axis, you can even use the alternative routes to avoid paying.

The toll gate they removed nation wide made our highway worse than when it existed to the extent that they are considering building new ones on our highways

I concur

dorothy111:
Since independence, Nigeria has never had a leader. What we have is tribalistic warlords and rulers.
Peace

No leader anywhere.

When im driving in Lagos, sometimes I feel like crying to God, like why is there so much chaos in Nigeria.

Ordinary driving, we can’t even get right...

No leadership to promote driving rules, law and order.

This country can be like a jungle sometimes.

See cars flying past red traffic light in broad daylight with ZERO PUNISHMENT, sigh

God help us!

GroundnutSoup9:
Trump/white supremacists no go like this news at all.

See how media has gotten to you.

Tell me just one attack by so called white supremacist that you know of

Sigh

Media will just be saying white supremacy, meanwhile America burnt last summer and there was not one white supremacist to be found, instead, there were many Black Lives Matter ppl present, smh

Keep looking for ghosts like white supremacists

FactBoyz:
After destroying properties and items in riots against Trump in Portland and Washington, they are nominated for Nobel Prize? Onedafu!

Not just property bro, check the death toll from the riots..

Seriously do some research and you’ll see the death toll is about 30

Research Captain David Dorn

Research the little child shot in the car with her grandma

The same Black Lives Matter that rioted all summer last year?

The same guys that burnt down city after city?

The same guys that destroyed businesses to the tune of billions of dollars?


THE SAME GUYS THAT CAUSED THE DEATH OF OVER 30 people last summer?



I just hate hypocrisy!

One riot on one day by so called republicans and they term it insurrection, but burn down cities, kill children and destroy businesses and they give you a Nobel prize

May God help us all.

Every region needs it's own Legitimate Police Force, like how you have LAPD and NYPD, but also FBI to as the big overseer. However, when you ask the people in the Senate and House, they will tell you...

"We are not ready for State Police"

ask them 5 years from now they will tell you

"We are not ready for State Police"

ask them 10 years from now, they will tell you

"We are not ready for State Police"

ask them 20 years from now, they will tell you

"We are not ready for State Police"

...

Naijaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


It's like that post here on nairaland that compared the picture of Ibadan from the 70s and 2020, where the 70s picture looked better and more developed. I guess we know the reason for such lack of development...

"We are not ready..."

madmohamed:
I call him prison president. A president that will not address his people is that one a president? The monkey in Aso Rock cage is dead brain

If you do a YouTube search for Buhari and filter for this month, all you will see is mini videos of him walking about, no audio, no engagement, sigh.

The only audio for this month I've seen, is the new years address, and that was just a ONE WAY SPEECH, as in, no questions, just him reading.

My point in all of this is that Buhari has set the bar so low... The next president can come in and be even worse, in that, you may never see him/her throughout their tenure.

At least the people we borrow democracy from have leaders that do QUESTIONS and ANSWERS.

Look at Trump... and even Biden that I personally don't like, still engages reporters.

Imagine if American citizens never saw their president, and only got few pictures a month and edited ONE-WAY addresses every 3 to 6 months. I'm sure they'd be asking questions.

helinues:
Yet you are not aware the picture was taken this week with the new service chief.

Don't allow hatred to build mansion in your heart

Hatred? lol

So asking for press conferences and interviews from your president equates to hatred?

I just don't understand how a democratic president eschews engagement with the people, either directly or via the press, and chooses instead to offer up images to placate the yearnings of the people to hear from their leader.

helinues:
If some people insist they can't see anything good in you, just give them a hug cos life can be difficult for a blind to see

Pictures, pictures and more pictures, that's all you guys ever post.

Aren't you ashamed?

You couldn't even link to a recent PRESS CONFERENCE, or interview with CHANNELS, AIT, BBC, ALJAZEERA... heck, even NTA...

You just post some "Instagram-like" picture, like what? We are supposed to rate his dressing? Ok, Nice shoes I guess, but can we ask him one or two questions?

Tofax:
You don't know Buhari is now a statue deity. He doesn't visit anywhere to see things for himself rather people rush to see him in his inclave (Aso villa) to consult with him about happenings in the country. The only time we saw him was when he tour the country for his own campaign in 2015 & 2019

isn't this crazy though? what you just said and the fact that Nigerians are okay with such a president?

It's like crazy has become normal, to have a president no one sees.

Have you seen your president at all this month?

Any interviews with reporters?

The president/presidency that no one ever sees, chai

This issue is becoming serious oooo

Yesterday they were even more at that lekki phase 1 traffic light, about 15 boys stormed the cars when the traffic light went red.

It makes you feel so unsafe to be stuck at the traffic light at night with boys surrounding your car and no police man in sight

May God help Nigeria

It seems that at every junction in Lagos, every intersection, every traffic light stop is ridden with a multitude of child beggars.

Just last night, at a traffic light stop in Lekki, there were about 10 teenage beggars that surrounded cars when the light turned RED.

Is there anything like Child Protection Services in Nigeria? For how long will we continue to allow this?

What future are we giving to those children?

How does this make the Nigerian society look and how does this affect things like tourism?

There really has to be a solution to this issue.


Left to me, these children should be FORCEFULLY taken away from their parents and educated or trained in a new skill to get them off the streets. This has to be done URGENTLY and CONSISTENTLY (not just a one day raid, but and EVERYDAY RAID).

Baawaa:
This man should contest for president

but, but, will people vote for him?

or will they tell us why a Buhari that was a coup plotting dictator, is much much better than a highly skilled and educated fellow

After all, Nigerians were saying back then that "They will vote Buhari even if he presents NEPA bill as certificate'


GEJ did not debate, and won presidential election
Buhari did not debate and won presidential election


Do you see the pattern?

Nigerians seem to hate thinkers and do not care about policy one bit... just tribe tribe tribe and maybe garri


OPEN any Tinubu 2023 thread, YOU WILL NOT FIND ONE POST ABOUT POLICY, NOT ONE. All you will find is Yorubas turn, jagaban and IPOB


what a people