I don't have all the details. Nova scotia and saskatchewan and newfoundland have been mentioned as having pathways for IMGs but to be honest I do not know the details. Do you have a first degree in physiotherapy? If you do, I think nova scotia is favourable for PTs, you my consider working as a PT at least for the first few years.

olandofire:
Hello vcole. While going through your timeline I noticed you are a Medical Doctor. I made my application using my M.Sc. in Physiology as I was still in medical school. Now that I have both my medical degree and the permanent residency, I would like to know which province is the most favorable to International Medical Graduates. I heard the path towards license is long, so I would like to know every detail that may help reduce the stress. Thank you.

Lol. missionary voyagers are popping up here oh. Una welcome. Thanks. Hopefully you'll get the remark with positive results. Thanks for asking, was gonna put up a post explaining abbreviations but nairaland anti spam bot just block me since on top ppr post oh. mtschewwww.
FSW - federal skilled worker, EE - express entry. AOR - acknowledgement of receipt, PPR - passport request, eAPR - electronic application for permanent residence, BG - background check, NN - not needed, NS - not started, IP - in progress, CRS - comprehensive ranking score, PNP - provincial nomination program.

deeore:
@vcole
Congratulations to you o..u r just an achiever, I remember u in the usa missionary journey, I tap into your blessing o.
I sincerely hope ielts wud dash me 0.5 o in remarking so I fit reach d 472.. @dupsyshoo, I believe ur sis must ve gotten ITA by now.
please wat does dis terminologies mean...AOPR,PPR,eAOPR etc

hey. missionary voyager, lol. When exactly is the start date for your current employer? The ref letter required by cic specifically mandates that the start date must be included. So, this is my personal opinion. Pursue the reference with your previous employer to the best of your ability. In the mean time, create another EE profile in time for the draw that should come up in about a month's time (2 draws from yesterday) - I am not exactly sure how this is done, it may require using a different email address i guess and I truly don't know how much of a grey area it is but this gives you another profile that would be eligible for a draw after the month of February which gives you 3 years with your current employer. In the mean time, gather all necessary documents and when you get a new ITA on your new profile, you decline this current ITA. Otherwise, you obtain the reference letter from your other unwilling employer and include it in your eAPR for this ITA and write a LOE to explain.

Onlineise:
@All,

Thanks for the advise and debates. Further to my case...I actually do have another two years of experience on the same NOC (May 2011 to Jan 2013). I didn't include it in the EE because I am dead sure my former employer will not give reference in the format required and would probably fustrate my efforts (because we parted on a not too good note) hence why I just stuck with my current employer for the points.

So can I just update my EE profile with the old experience, it wont obviously change my CRS but it means I will now need to pursue reference from this old employer...advise please.

As regards POF, and all ITA recipients rubbing pancake on top pof cold feet, let me share my own experience.
I probably had the most complicated pof i've heard of thus far. Lol!

I submitted 5 bank accounts. This is because funds moved through these accounts within the 6 month period prior to my app submission and besides if you read the guideline for pof on the cic site, it actually asks you to submit ref letters from all your banks.

So, I have 3 savings accounts, 1 current account and 1 joint account.
Joint account was less than 6 months old as at time of app submission. However, joint account is where we had been saving pof money that was not yet complete, because we had expected a prolonged pool stay considering the trend of high crs draws as at then and had saved about 70% of required pof or so at the time. So, post ITA, hubby transferred some funds to the joint account to make up the required amount and then I transferred the entire pof to my current account. Prior to this time, I had savings going into our joint account from savings accounts 1 and 2 as well as my current account and then savings also going into the joint account from my hubby's personal account.

Savings accounts 1,2,3 had monies moving within them regularly. You know how you can use one bank to keep maybe school fees, another for regular spending, another for "do not touch" money, etc. lol! Also, I had large deposits made from my mum, uncle, friends, etc etc into savings account 3 (gtbank). You know how your folks need you to help purchase something or pay for a service or send to someone else for them and then they pay into your account.......I was in a dilemma as to what to do.
However, I didn't feel comfortable delaying my app submission till the 60 day mark just so those transactions would fall off my bank statement....So, I wrote a very detailed LOE, explaining ALL the movement of funds and ALL lump sum deposits into ALL of my bank accounts over the 6 month period preceding the submission of my app. I also had a LOE written by my husband confirming funds transfers and dates (we did not include his bank statement as the transfer details showed his name as depositor on my bank statements), I also went ahead to get a LOE from my uncle and all other persons who had made lump sum deposits into that my gtbank account and whose names showed up on my statement as depositors as well as obtained a gift deed from my mom for the lump sum deposits she made into same account.
Of note is that, all of the funds in that my gtbank account had already been used up in payment of whatever I needed to help them pay for long ago, that account is like my regular day to day expense account and as at receiving ITA and as at submission of eAPR, balance was maybe 100k or something ridiculous like that.

By the time I had compiled my loe and all the other loes plus gift deed into one document it was 10 pages. lwkmd!!!!
I felt a bit ridiculous at this point but went ahead and uploaded the 10 page loe under the slot provided for loe in the eAPR oh.

Turns out, app was successful and gcms notes didn't even hint at any pof issue. So, my advise is that as long as you can explain and show proof of any of your concerns as regards pof that do not prevent you from meeting the ircc criteria, you shoud be fine.

Thanks everyone. I truly appreciate your support, advise, recommendations and all through this journey and wish everyone a speedy app process.

I submitted my app on Nov 6, 2016. Details of my prep- eca, ielts, EE pool entry, ITA, etc etc can be found in my previous posts, you can click on my moniker and read old posts for more info.

Timeline:
FSW-EE, NOC 3112, CRS 482.
EE profile created: Oct 14th 2016
ITA: Oct 19th 2016
eAPR submitted: 6th Nov 2016
AOR: 7th Nov 2016
Medicals passed: 8th Nov 2016
BG NN>>IP : 30th Dec 2016
GCMS notes requested January 11th, issued on 21st January and received on February 2nd. Its 129 pages of lots of very confusing info and I had to google a lot and ask people who had gone through the process before to try to explain. The short summary is that it showed my app had moved from central office in ottawa to Accra on 8th Nov and from Accra to London VO in Dec, and as at 30th Dec, it showed eligibility: passed, criminality:passed, medicals:passed and final:approved and the last notes made by a VO same date was "appears RFV"
I was very worried as to why I had not received PPR when app was supposedly approved since Dec but was encouraged by "forerunners" lol! to just wait and expect ppr soon and they were spot on.

@esosa4real, i have been receiving your pms and i have been responding, maybe you should check your junk or spam? @boldinc, I also responded to yours.

I have also received a couple of pms from newbies to the thread, I didn't reply because I am more than happy to respond to all your questions on this thread as that way, it yields maximum benefit. You are able to get responses from several persons and it also benefits current and future readers. This thread would be dead if we all opted to pm when we just joined instead of discussing on the thread. So, kindly ask your questions on the thread.

My people!!!!! PPR!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!

esosa4real:


Thanks jawe, trip was good.

Yes oh ITA tomorrow by Gods grace...infact as I landed, I have hit the ground running as regards preparing remaining documents. Abeg I get some few questions oh .

1. I have confirmed that KSA banks don't issue any bank letters in CIC's format oh. can I employ the method of getting a 6-months statement of account and see how I can get their normal letter of reference? In that case, what's the right CIC address to write?

2. Based on 1 above will I have to also explain the bank situation in the LOE?

3. My ubth reference letter carries job title of "Medical house officer" but in EE, I had since written "Medical Doctor". Hope that wont be a problem? although the job descriptions are on point.

1) same as with Nigerian banks. Get a regular letter of reference from the bank n add your six months bank statement. You can mention it in your loe, I did.
2) I addressed to visa officer, ircc.
3) job function is what matters over title.

I included my gtbank account in my pof. Went to d bank on a friday and was told it would take 48 hours to get my statement and i wanted to submit my app that weekend, so i printed my online statement n submitted that. The other bank statements i submitted had all pages stamped.

SlowlybtSurely:


Thanks bro.

[quote author=esosa4real post=53436999]

Thanks vcole,oh I didn't see the earlier posts!! Godbless you! Am already on my way back to Base!! One love and I wish you success in your pR application![/quote
Have a safe trip. Yea, I didn't see d post myself until it was quoted. I kept posting and it kept showing failed since Friday.
All the best with yours too. Ita loading in a few days.

My response said pay slips and ppa letter are supporting and not mandatory. That means if he has them, he can use them to support his app. Otherwise, in lieu of any evidence of payment, a reference letter for that job in ircc format is the mandatory document to show proof of work experience.
I used my nysc experience and submitted a reference letter, ppa posting letter n bank statement covering that period.

Fusion23:


I think pay stubs help , I wrote a letter of explaination for this and i believed it helped.
See the instruction they put

1) i asked here and someone advised to scan all pages including the finger print and passport photo attached side
2) I think i answered this earlier, reference letter written in ircc format would suffice, anything else such as payslips or ppa letter are supporting and not mandatory. as fusion23 advised, do not submit your discharge certificate.
3) Weird, seeing as you wrote your exam in 2017. Write the date on your trf.
4) Get your medicals done here, its cheaper....I think dupyshoo answered all of these medicals questions earlier and boldinc put up a post of qlife's price list and contact details, you can call them for further questions

esosa4real:

Greetings my people, I am waiting for ITA @ 469 oh and currently gathering my documents before I travel back to my Base (KSA) on sunday!

1. I did my police report yesterday, am we to scan the certificate and thumbprint form pages? Or just the certificate?

2. As regards letter of ref for my nysc ppa. It was in an healthcenter in osun state, can I submit just that letter without payslips? (because e nor dey)

3. My ielts TRF number didn't follow the usual pattern as earlier predicted. It started with 16NG and not 17NG (just thought I inform dupsyshoo).
Now in the ee profile it ask what date did u get your result? Should I write the date written on my TRF? I ask because I saw the result online on 20th Jan but my TRF carries 19th (abeg wch1 I go write).

4. I am still weighing the option of doing medicals here, is it possible to walkin to Qlife and do the tests without an appointment? Wil ITA be required first?

God bless you all!

Yes you can send someone. Send them a copy of your passport biodata page, 2 recent passport photographs and your finger prints collected at the nearest police office to you.

chinwe11:
Please I currently do not live in naija. I saw the post on how to get police report from naija. They advised to post it to police office. I am worried that if I just post it nothing will happen as per naija. Any idea how I can get this report? I am heavily pregnant so going to naija now isn't an option. Also how long is the police certificate valid for? And can i send someone to help me? Thank you

oohunt:


Thank you vcole. You have been so helpful. I was going to follow all your comments but, sometimes it did not make sense so I had to read the conversations.
The NOC code I use is 2171- Information systems analysts and consultants, I studied computer Science and my MSc is also in the IT field. 2171 matched all the work experience I have. As I understand they must all be in the same NOC right? Just that I have worked for several companies over the years. This implies that I will be requiring reference letters from about 4 employers. I just hope it wont be a problem in the application.

So from what I have read here, I should remove my other qualifications from the Education section and place them in the personal history section since they were not evaluated? And that my husband should do the same for his work history if I am not prepared to upload a reference letter from his company?

I used 3 different reference letters from 3 companies for my work experience seeing as I had worked in 3 different organizations thus far, So this shouldn't be a problem.
There are 2 options for this non-ECA qualifications. Some people removed the qualifications that they do not have an ECA for entirely from the education section and then mentioned it under that part of the form that literally tells you to tell them your whole life without leaving gaps
For me, I listed the degrees under the education section as well. For each qualification you list, it asks if you have an ECA for it. I indicated that I had an ECA for the one which I evaluated and then indicated that I did not have an ECA for the ones which were not evaluated.....I use degrees here to refer to both mine and my spouse's.
Whatever work experience you do not wanna provide a reference for, both for yourself (as long as it doesn't reduce your points) and your spouse, do not fill under the work experience section but fill the details under personal history.

Congrats on your ITA. Could you share your time line? Your NOC, ielts scores/no of attempts, qualification/eca process...hurdles et al if any, pool entry, etc etc
I was gonna comment on your earlier post but then saw that you already found the answer. I could hug you right now. As much as you can, try to read up posts on this thread, it has loads of info.
As 40manlappy said, a LOE would suffice from your spouse.

oohunt:
For the benefit of others who may come to ask the same questions I did. I found the answer to my first question about proof of funds. My husband would have to transfer the lump sum at once to my account as a gift of deed, and he will have to write a letter of explanation (LOE).

What I do not know is if LOE is the same thing as a gift of deed? Gurus please clarify if the letter will state that the money is a gift deed to support the family and etc and is that all?

See this link and post from dupyshoo, it explains it well: https://www.nairaland.com/2624318/canadian-express-entry-federal-skilled/192#49796398

yungmin:

This is precisely the info I wanted to confirm. Pls, is there a time limit after which it is not allowed to apply for remarking?

you are allowed to apply for a remark within 6 weeks of your test date.

dammysanmi:
Lol... i remember all too well. Though i did not prepare adequately for the exams, but your confidence that my scores would be upgraded (without knowing me from ADAM) spurred me to ask for a remark @vcole. Hell if i regret not asking for an EOR for my wife too. I clearly believe that BC purposely limits some scores so people can resit the exams....68k

I'm glad you got an upgrade.

Your scores would be inaccessible during the period of EOR.

yungmin:
Must everything in naija be different? Even IELTS seems to be doing wuru wuru smh! What happens if I request for a remark? Can I use the current score while waiting for the new one? Because, I actually wanted to use a stone to kill two birds. My grade is good for Australia PR but very poor for Canada. Share your thoughts pls. Thanks

dupyshoo:
I tire my sister!!! I am dumbfounded!!! They need to be audited!!

I strongly believe that it's a money making thing oh. Instead of waiting for a remark that should take 6 weeks but they'll now make it last like 10 weeks. Most candidates will just book and pay for another test seeing as dates usually get full on time.

dupyshoo:
Yes, people go for remark elsewhere but how come the marker made a mistake in multiple choice section. Was he/she sleeping while marking it? A whole band for that matter!! That corresponds to marking 3 -6 correct answers wrong!!! It is totally unacceptable!!
If it is writing or speaking, that can still be subjective but not multiple choice sections.

Remember when I was arguing with you that listening and reading can get upgraded especially for this bc naija.

@blackbuddy, yea I know they are distributed to the three bodies for remark. Also when it's marked the very first time, about two different examiners do so.
However, if you follow the British council Nigeria trend, you will see that they tend to score candidates low. Very low. It's beyond making an error. I always encourage people who know their onions to go for an EOR. It takes a long time and most people just don't wanna wait that long but it usually gets upgraded.

The reason why this came to my attention is because I had reason to write an academic ielts in 2014. When my results were released I got a 6.5 in writing and 7 in LRS. However when I went to collect my trf, my result was one of the ones randomly picked for Qa/qc. When it came back, my writing upgraded to 7.5 and S to a 9.0 LR to 8.5,8.5. How can a score move a band and in speaking two bands up

I've written two more ielts tests since then, general and academic. Both 9,8,8,8 and 8.5,8.5,8.5,7.5 respectively. So, I know my competency level is consistent as opposed to that 6.5 that would have been my fate in the first instance.

Hi. I don't think it's because you schooled there. I read somewhere last week that due to the backlog with accra vo, they had re-distributed apps to the London vo to assist. So, yours seems to have been one of the lucky ones.

Fusion23:
Just a little hint dont knwo if this will help , after i got my passport request just after one month i was scared because it was to early .
After I sent my passport a week later i ordered the GGMS notes : Luckily I already got my visa,
The GGMS notes are out about 189 pdf pages with so many repitions:

The process moved fast from accra office to London office

so may be luckily schooling in London helped, cos it was london that gave the final approval

without giving so much away just an hint

summary make sure ur story makes sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didnt even get points for having a relative.
Also even with the express entry rate of 1200
the still convert to the fsw which is over 100

When I went for my medicals at the same panel physician you made your enquiry, the front desk official had advised me to fill family under my visa class on the medicals form even after explaining explicitly that it was economic class. If i had agreed, that would have put me under family class sponsorship and maybe long things for medicals. So, you should make enquiries at other panel physicians. The link I posted above, clearly states spousal apps

temitope06:


EE is Non EDE i guess , so yes.

hmmm. for non EDE class?

temitope06:


i called Children's practice and consultants now and they said upfront medicals has been stopped since December last year. they said the process now is that you submit your application without medicals, then cic will send medical forms to you later and then you can take that with you to the hospital. Pls anyone else can confirm this, hope i didn't misinterpret what i heard.

This is under the sponsorship program for spouses, partners and dependants. There is so much info updated on the cic site that it could get confusing a lot of times. We have to carefully cross check the category of persons and class of program the new rules apply to. Click on upfront medical exam here http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/medical/medexams-perm.asp

Adiahabasi:
Bumped into this. Still trying to decipher what this means. Says if submitting application after 31st of January, upfront medicals not to be done..till requested for .............seems one can no longer copy and paste a web link here.

@bimpsy99, he can transfer to you and you leave the funds in your account. He'll write a loe that he transferred the funds when you both decided to make you the PA for the ee process. If that happens now n you don't get an ita within the next three months, then by the time you're applying for pr post ita you may not even need the loe seeing as the money would have been in your account for six months.
You can also both create a joint account now but it would have to be at least six months old by d time you're submitting your app.

you're welcome

Adiahabasi:
Thanks black buddy, vcole and fusion. I appreciate!

Adiahabasi:
Hi my ppl, please when they say no gaps in personal history, does it mean I have to put unemployed in a one month gap ......like between house job and Nysc?

I selected unemployed from the drop down list for any period in between jobs post graduation.

esosa4real:


@vcole Please can I send you an email of my reference I just collected from my hosp where I did internship... wanted to show you the method, they employed in showing my job title (house officer) and also my job duties.

Also, they didn't use the word 'fulltime' anywhere. I have payslips + employment letter as well.

My second issue is with my NYSC year of experience. do we get reference from the PPA (hospital) and add NYSC certificate? I am wondering if anyone used NYSC before and hope CIC don't get confused.

Thanks

Sure thing. Did they mention the work hours per week? You can use nysc exp. I think a ref from ppa will be better and any evidence of salary payment available if you so desire. No nysc certificate please.

boldinc:
I think there's a chance that the less documents you upload, the less work you give the VO... For example, If you present job is over 3 years old, I would advice you get reference letter for that alone (that is what i'm doing despite the fact that there have been 3 other companies in the past). This way, a check has to be done on only one company and not 3 nor 4... Saves time!

That may also be the case for unnecessary excess documents as proof, e.g. reference letter alone would suffice as proof of employment. Payslips and the likes might also need some checks, maybe cross checks with bank account, which might require contacting the bank, etc.

In summary, like I am tryna do, upload only the docs you need to. Avoid excess where not necessary.

My opinion tho...

My brother, where work experience na years split between four employers wetin man pickin go do na. Current employer is more straight forward as my pof is in my salary account so that one no get ish in terms of cross checking bank statements n payslips. If I had up to three years with this employer it would have been easier.
Ultimately sha na this ircc know as them take dey process oh. #thewaitcontinues lol!

If you have payslips and any additional proof of employment just add it. I think it is the job responsibilities that matter more than the job title.

SlowlybtSurely:


I have the reference letter from my housejob employer, but the employment letter clearly states "internee". I don't know if paid internship counts for outland applicants. Or should i just submit only reference letter for this particular experience?

If your housejob employer would provide you with a reference, then you can add it. I am not sure but I don't think your maternity leave would be deducted from your work experience. It's just like saying your annual leave would be deducted from your work experience.

SlowlybtSurely:


I'm beginning to think so too. Will go with ref letter and employment letter.

Some one thinks my maternity leave period will be deducted from my work experience and that would mean i will fall short of the 3 years bench mark. I went on mat leave twice (3 months each) within the 3 years 4 months WE period. Wondering if i should include my housejob experience to make up for it.

What do you think?

I submitted reference letter, employment/confirmation letter,pay slips for each job. However, to be honest i think that was an overkill but i had the documents available so i just put everything. A work reference letter that meets ircc requirement is sufficient proof of employment.

SlowlybtSurely:
vcole what documents did you submit for Job reference? I'm thinking of submitting reference letter, employment letter and pay slips (for current job) or bank statement with the exact transactions highlighted (for previous job). Will that be toomuch?

Again, just to be sure, i'm not claiming points for hubby's work experience, so i selected 'NO' under his work experience but put all of it under personal activity. Hope that won't be seen as misinterpretation?

I was just waiting for you to ask oh since i read the post knowing you had concerns about this. How's eAPR going?

boldinc:
Hey Fusion23... Congrats again!

Quick question pls. Do you know if your relative in Canada was contacted during background checks?

Thanks

Fusion23, make you sha tell us if your work reference get secret code na.
I think he is one of the lucky ones to get a visa officer process his app really really fast though. So many other applicants submit appropriate work references. Personally, i submitted three work references all written to provide the details ircc requested as my previous (and current) employers were very much willing to do so. I am also a compulsive records keeper, so I have all my payslips from previous jobs, etc etc.
Travel history too sef plenty for me and my spouse and child.
This is also the case for a lot of other applicants. So, like someone said on the cv forum, 6 months is the average processing time and anything earlier or longer is the exception and not the norm.

All this one na to console myself oh. The waiting game ain't easy. I wish say my own copr too don land make i join fusion23 for the exception club jare. Lol!

SlowlybtSurely:


What exact documents did you submit for work experience?