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If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it. Marvel discovered a winning formula, and its first attempt to deviate from it, it did not go well. If its films all look the same, it's only because the fans prefer it that way. Unlike DC, Marvel is aware of its audience.

Conversely, DC is still trying to find its identity, and it could be argued that it would be better off simply giving its long-suffering fans what they want rather than constantly trying to be edgy gritty and stuff. Using the trailers as a guide, Bruce is still the same sulky Billionaire, and Gotham is still groomy as ever, just like in the comics. It's the same old, same old. Honestly, it's fool's gold at this point.

Minemrys:
Wait till it's out. I have same views as you though. Basing from the trailers, it isn't showing us anything new or unique other films Batman films specifically haven't done. But them going for 3 hours, then it shows they have something different. Although I am skeptical but I won't judge yet.

The three-hour runtime, in my opinion, aggravates the situation significantly. Imagine sitting in a theater for three hours without an intermission, watching a Batman film, and not just any Batman film, but one in which he's stylized as a full-fledged detective tracking down a psychopath. I'm not sure about you, but I reckon it'd be a fate worse than death. I might as well stay home and watch the paint dry.

MJBOLT:

yes please

It's a foregone conclusion. Kransiski confirmed he and Emily were approached about major roles in an MCU project.

Kaycee7:
Na Tom Cruise go write the character that way. E sure me die. Egotistical mofo

Tom Cruise may be a high-ranking member of a cult and crazier than the Mad Hatter, but let's face it, he'd be a natural.

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Spectral (2016)

I thought it was a good popcorn movie, and the high production value, considering it's a B film, surprised me. Basically, it's "Black Hawk Down" plus "Ghostbusters".

Calibrator:
The only cinematic fighting force I can think of who can match the Spartans are the gladiators of the house Batiatus (including Gannicus), but then, the gladiators will find it impossible to hold 300 Spartans but 10 best gladiators against 10 best Spartans soldiers, the gladiators will win easily.

I'm going to pretend I didn't read this horseshit.

Minemrys:
Actually, it being R rated isn't a plus. R rated films aren't a guaranteed success. And, the Batman can be all you have said. I mean, it delves into the mind of an orphan, orphans actually, living in a corrupt city that took their childhood from them. It reflects society and alot of things like you are claiming. Like I said, you, we don't know the story yet. So the criticism is unfair.
I can barely sit through an episode of the batwoman series, but I can watch episodes of legend of the seeker non stop for 3 hours. Let it come out before you decide. You may not be interested in the film like I am, but it's strange to criticize it before you even see the first 30 mins of it.

Box office revenue is not a metric for success. If you're not interested in pandering to a wider audience or not too hanged up on political correct shenanigans, or cushy revenue, rated R is the way to go. It opens a lot of possibilities, one of which is a creative freedom to shape the script whichever way you want. Ergo it's important to note that the unprecedented financial success of Joker as a rated R movie is an outlier, not the norm. It'd be a mistake to expect a rated R movie to make a PG-13 movie kind of money.

The orphaned child with a chip on their shoulder is an overdone trope, and unless The Batman brings something unique to the table, this flick is going to get boring really fast.

BlackManta:
Anybody remember Joker movie of 2019

Joker was not action packed, it's not even an action movie

Joker had no humor or comedy

Joker did not look like an MCU movie or a comic book movie

Joker was a drama, a sad depressing drama

Joker didn't have Batman, only Joker

A lot of average movie goers think it's overrated

Now my question is this; How did Joker become such a massive success

How did an R rated movie make a billion dollars at the box office

How did Joker outgross Deadpool films which was action packed with great humor

Who contributed to Joker's BO numbers

Average moviegoers or aliens from Pluto

Joker isn't a comic book movie, chief. It thematically touched on a very sensitive topic that is prevalent in the society but often ignored, and for this reason, it resonated with a large number of people.

Furthermore, the Joaquin Phoenix factor cannot be overstated. This is a man who has struggled with mental illness his entire life and had the courage to step up and play a character who is very similar to himself in the worst of ways.

Taking all of this into consideration, it's not surprising that Joker did so well financially; I mean, it's a very grounded journey into the murky waters of mental illness and the apathetic society at large, and frighteningly realistic in the way it portrayed Joker's gradual descent into madness.

It's also rated R, which is always a plus.

One more thing... the runtime is 2 hours, watching it doesn't feel like a chore.

PurpLChi:
Omo na only you guy...those fight scenes in 300 have 2000% rewatchability...

I don't know why you're trying to fix in ZSJL that was on its own

I 101% concur with AnfieldFan.

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Midnight mass
The exorcist series just finished watching it
The kids are Allright
DaVinci demons
The new pope/young pope(very useless series)

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Evil and Outcast.

PurpLChi:
Okay

No need to mope; I simply put into words what many of you are secretly thinking. You have permission to refer to me as your conscience. You're welcome.

Peacemaker is amazing. I wish there were more DC series like this and fewer dreck like Stargirl and Titans.

Hate to be that guy, but I don't like the way it looks. It's too noir, too bleak, too depressing... it exudes a boring vibe. I'm not looking forward to this flick at all.

AnfieldFan:
I doubt Verifiedstalin has an alt, no regular poster on the Movies section writes like him..

Thank you!

Minemrys:
This reminds of religious fanatics who condemn people of other faiths different to theirs to hell without even getting to know them. There are films with 1 hour run time that feel too long, there are also films with 3hrs run time that feel short.
Am not telling you to go watch it, heck I am not going to see it myself cause I don't like the character of Batman as a whole. But the point is, the movie and the characters have potential to tell an Oscar worthy story if done the right way. Quit condemning something without even giving it a chance. There's one thing to be wary cause of track record but there's another thing to have an open mindset. In life, nothing is one way. Nothing is as it seems.

Chief, I'm as open-minded as they come. It's simply that I'm a dedicated servant of history, and if history is any guide, WB will find a variety of ways to botch the film, disappointing naive fans while vindicating skeptical fans like myself.

Iceyjayz:
Wow! I didn't know that the latest Spidey has hit the $1 billion mark, the box office is around $1billion 600 million or thereabouts, that was so fast, I see it making $2 billion plus before April, damn!

I commend Marvel , they did a great job bringing all spider actors together,although I haven't seen the movie yet, I'm waiting for the Blu-ray version to be out because I love watching crystal clear movies.

Gold standard raised to the power of God-tier.

SOZINN:
Dune (2021)


Wow, wow, wow. I won't say Dune is just a good movie, I feel like the word "good" is not the best to describe how this movie made me feel. Dune is out of this world, it is spectacular. A lot of talent was employed for the making of this film. You can see the mind of the author and it is so clear. They manage to communicate his ideas effectively and oh my, whatever inspired that dude.

A lot of time and hard work was put into this, you'd think those planets are out there somewhere. Is it the setting, dialogue, culture, audio, CGI, everything is on expert level.
The only drawback to this movie would be the plot (expect nothing new). I'm not going to spend time commending the acting, it's a star studded cast so you know what to expect. The director deserves all the accolades, good work.

Wherever the author is, I can only imagine how fulfilled he must be with this film. I don't want to give away any spoilers, just watch the movie if you haven't. This is actually the first part of the film, the second part will be released in 2023. Can't wait!

Dune will win the Academy Award for Best Picture. No one can persuade me otherwise.

TheKingIsHere:
Nobody said you were a troll and yes you do have your main moniker. But I get it

Googoo gaga.

TheKingIsHere:
I don't know why you guys are wasting your time with verifiedstalin who is a DC hater and an MCU shill. He should use his real moniker to post here not his alternative.

PS: Verifiedstalin aint hulk


Abeg, make una watch this piece from reekado and relax cos The batman will do well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bovm6-15Ooo

I don't have an alternate username, I don't need one.

Kaycee7:
Realism takes in both sides of the equation. Spelling doom for a movie that has a fair chance at delivering the goods is pessimism.

Po-ta-to... Po-tay-do.

Minemrys:
Don't believe everything you see from the trailers son.
The Batman may actually have a story that you may not know. It could have everything that keeps audience glued, a mystery, humor, interesting characters, suspense, action and puzzle pieces. What makes a movie entertaining is if it doesn't just tell a story but has audience involved in every way, it has you thinking, smiling, laughing, puzzled, scared and not a drag. That was interstellar. The Batman can also be this. It's just on the film makers and the studio.

Not with a runtime of 3 hours, it won't.

Minemrys:
You basing it off the trailers. Besides, interstellar didn't have the kinda humor you claim. It just needs a story that engages, great acting, characters and pace. Scenes shouldn't be dragged.

Interstellar didn't need to be funny; it had a solid premise. It's relatable, and the theme and characters are relevant. Interstellar is a completely immersive experience.

Unless The Batman follows the MCU formula, I truly believe it will be a more complex, more expensive, darker, and far less amusing version of Knives Out.

PurpLChi:
Lmaooo, the biggest Marvel/MCU apologist on NL is "saying this as a DC fan"

I would like to see how you'll backtrack when the movie makes big bucks in the BO.

Whatever makes you happy, chief.

Nickshrapnel:
This 'disaster' will outgross any movie WB put out this year.

I want it to succeed, but reality always triumphs over desire. Critics will most likely give it high marks, but most moviegoers will pass on it.

Kaycee7:
Well, someone's gotta be pessimistic, I guess.

A realist is often misinterpreted as a pessimist. It doesn't give me pleasure to bash The Batman, but it is what it is.

Calibrator:
Servant Season 3 is out.



How these people managed to keep me captivated for the two whole seasons without knowing what is going on is beyond me

Season 2 dragged on and on, with little to show for it. I'm not particularly eager to watch Season 3.

Kaycee7:
Interstellar wasn't action-packed/humorous and yet grossed $700 million.
The storytelling just needs to be compelling. And that's not exactly impossible for a Batman story.

To compare The Batman to a thought-provoking film like Interstellar is absurd. For one thing, Interstellar is a hard science fiction film that provides a unique viewing experience. It has a phenomenal soundtrack, amazing visuals, a sympathetic theme, a great cast, a well-written script, a brilliant director, a well-paced story, and a premise that is firmly anchored in well-researched science. It's difficult not to fall in love with a film that emotes so sincerely and truly.

The Batman, on the other hand, is a full-fedged detective noir story. It's a given that there will be a lot of jawing and brooding and a lot less action and humour. Any intrigue in it will be lost in the muck of the muddled drivel. It's a disaster waiting to happen, and I say this as a DC fan.

SMUAG:
Hmmm...... What makes you think it won't do well...?

The writing is plainly visible on the walls. The average casual moviegoer has a relatively limited attention span, and unless the film is action-packed/humorous, they are unlikely to be interested in seeing sulky Bruce prance around Gotham, in a noir dim lighting. There's a reason why WB executives want to trim it. They've seen it, and they know the length won't go down well with the casuals.

SMUAG:
I think people manning WB DCEU unit are finally coming to their senses... If it did well, don't be surprised to see a 3hrs for The Flash movie.
Movies with prominent or notable characters need better screen times...
Definitely. Positive words of mouth and long legs will definitely cover any movie with a long run time if the movie is compelling.

It won't do well, and there won't be a 3 hours Flash movie.

Minemrys:
If the film is good, people won't care about the run time. Your fears are the reason studios like WB ruin directors work. Have faith. It ain't all about the money, but creativity and entertainment. Endgame did well, didn't it?
Show the audience some confidence. Have faith.
Although I ain't going to see it. Will be here waiting to hear from you guys.

Faith? WB's track record in this area doesn't offer much room for optimism, chief.

For the amount of money spent on creating this film, one would think there'd be enough ingenuity to fit in a tale under 2 hours, but hey, what do I know, I'm just some pleb who's too focused on not getting bored to death watching a Batman movie play out for 3 hours like some Ph.D. Dissertation presentation.