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Foreign Affairs › Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 6:22am On Oct 01, 2022
alabo1:
I tire for these western bots. Russia has over 20 % of Ukrainian territory and yet he lost the War. Now that the annexation has happened watch how gradually this died of as they move on to another destabilisation agenda (China?) Since they have lost this one.

However only the discerning can see through Western hypocrisy and deceit. Long live Putin and Xi. The new multipolar world is here
Russia has lost the momentum in the war. Russians themselves are tired of the war. Putin launched a war without the support of the Russian people. Even the military was not ready for war. Such wars cannot be won. It could drag on for decades, Russia cannot win, as the Ukrainians will fight to the last man.

Capturing a territory in a war is fairly easy, holding it is another ball game. You need enough soldiers and arms to hold unto vast territories outside your main fighting force. Putin realised this too late and is only calling for reserves now that he is loosing these territories at an alarming rate. Estimates suggests he will need up to a million reservists, and Russianen are not prepared to fight, and that is why he is threatening with nuclear.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 6:12am On Oct 01, 2022
Skty:
I'm surprised at ur statement. Y'all forget Russia is a super power
Which yeye super power. Let them prove their super power onthe battle field instead of threatening everybody with nuclear
Foreign Affairs › Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 6:11am On Oct 01, 2022
Dmacqh:
Do we really want, here, in our country, in Russia, instead of ‘mum’ and ‘dad’, to have ‘parent number one’, ‘parent number two’, ‘number three’? Have they gone completely insane?

Do we really want … it drilled into children in our schools … that there are supposedly genders besides women and men, and [children to be] offered the chance to undergo sex change operations? … We have a different future, our own future.”

This may be the downfall of the West.
NB : I don’t support invasion of Ukraine.
I fail to see the connection between sex change and the invasion of Ukraine. Abi, Putin invaded Ukraine to stop sex change operations?

Putin is just a desperate man playing his trump card. He hurriedly annexed regions he knows the Russian military cannot hold for long and then threaten to strike with nuclear weapon if Ukraine attacks to capture the regions back.
Agriculture › Re: If Banana Grew & Entered Your Compound Like This, What Would You Do? by wirinet(m): 7:46pm On Sep 30, 2022
Legalaffairs:
By law you are the owner. You can choose to share with your neighbour "the supposed owner"
Thank you oga lawyer. Luckily I took property law in school. Anything below and above a land belongs to the owner of the land. The person that planted the banana should have taken measures that his tree does not encroach on another person's land. In the alternative he should pay rent on the space accepted by his tree on another person's land.
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 6:46pm On Sep 30, 2022
Johnnyjohnnyman:
We have been free with each other phone after the reconciliation it has nothing to do with hiding things from each other because I have never cheated on her for the 10 years we have been she marriec it just that we both believed that when there's trust and there's no need to be checking each other phones.
After reconciliation does not matter much as she knows she had messed up, and will try and do anything to please you. It's called hysterical bonding. I was talking about before the issues started. Even though I never snoop directly on my wife's phone, we have access to each others phone anytime. If she runs out of credit she uses my phone to make her calls and I also use her phone to browse mine runs out of data.

She was annoyed because my sister duped me and I was broke she had to carry all the responsibility all alone.
That's not a reason for getting annoyed. People get duped all the time, and it doesn't cause break up in relationships. Instead she should have consoled you for being betrayed by a close family member. If you blew the money on other women, I would have supported her, but to get annoyed at your attempt to increase the family fortune is unreasonable.

I learned about the cheating from neighbours and my cousin brother who lives few doors away from our old house and she had admit to have cheated because the responsible was too much for her and the guy were taking care of her and the kids when I was broke. I asked her how long they have been dating she said it started in 2019 few weeks after i got duped and i asked her if she was sure she said yes they were not together before I got duped.
That you learnt from neighbours and your cousin about her cheating says a lot about the state of the marriage. Would you have known if you had not been informed?

Financial setbacks should never be an excuse for separation much less cheating. Every marriage and I repeat, every marriage pass through financial stress. When I had mine about 14 years ago, my wife picked up the gauntlet, begged her Relations for money, and started a business. Even though it was small, it kept us going until I was able to recover. Now I have opened a bigger business for her.

I also don't buy the "the guy were taking care of her and the kids when I was broke" shit. You mean a salaried guy in her office was able to cater for her and her 3 children for 6 months after taking care of his own responsibilities. How much exactly was he earning or was he the owner of the company? What you wife is saying indirectly is that she slept with multiple men for money to take care of herself and the kids.

According to her the last time they spoke was July 2020 after the break up and I asked her what caused the break up. She said the guy was taking advantage of her he didn't fulfil all the promises he had made to her and she had to quit and cut her coats according to her size. She moved to a smaller house and change the children school after she came begging me to return back home.
Still does not make sense. She learnt to cut her coats according to her size ofter the other guy left, but didn't after you lost just N200k.


I asked her if she was using protection with the guy she said yes but on few occasions the condoms has broken up
and I have told her I didn't cheat on her but before we reconcile we should both go and do all the stds test, I didnt have to because i was clean but i have done because we wanted to start wverything afresh which we did the test it came back clear and we got back together.
That "on a few occasions" got me alarmed. You mean they must have done it gazillion times with condoms but it broke only a few times, which ended up getting her pregnant. The guy really scattered the place and without paying bride price for that matter. Now the guy want to put the rewards of his enjoyment on you also. The guy is one lucky bustard.
I hope I have answered all your questions.
It's not about answering my questions, it's you telling us about your predicament and asking our opinions. Many people have different opinions, it's left for you to take one or ignore all and do what will give you peace of mind. After all raising another man's child is acceptable in some cultures. Some are even said to give their wives to friends and strangers as entertainment.
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 10:03am On Sep 30, 2022
baralatie:
Even if the last texted 20 years ago
It does not matter
There is a child on ground connecting them(ifdna proves him to be)
The only problem is if DNA proves another person as the father of the child
There is where the problem is now volcanic
To me it matter. I would want to find out why she cheated in the first place for there to be any hope of reconciliation. Marriage should be built on trust and love. If any is missing the marriage will not worth it.
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 9:53am On Sep 30, 2022
Johnnyjohnnyman:
She had quit the job due to childbirth complications . She didn't informed him ( her words not mine) because they had break up before she conceived there is no way he could be the father. Ever since we got back together I haven't suspected her and I don't have any reason I am free with her phone and she is also free with mine and our relationship has been stronger than before unfortunately this dna things has messed up everything and our family will not be the same way again
Had you been free with each others phones before or after the reconciliation? Before the separation if she was free with each others phones, how come she was not aware you got N300,000 or you sent N200,000 to your sister for business purpose? Why was she annoyed you sent N200,000 to your sister for business?
How did you learn of the cheating? Why did she cheat? How come you never suspected anything before?

Finally, what's the state of the relationship currently? When was the last time they spoke or texted?
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 9:48am On Sep 30, 2022
baralatie:
Will it change the outcome of what has happened on ground?
Yes it will. First the guy and his family must be made aware so they know how to handle the situation. If he his married, the wife must be made aware.

Then the guy needs to know the extent the wife has been gaslighting him. How long has she been fùcking the colleague and if they were others. I wonder what she would have told the other guy concerning the husband. The excuse for the separation was as flimsy as it's stupid.
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 9:40am On Sep 30, 2022
Johnnyjohnnyman:
She is her bio mother the child looks exactly like her colleague she cheated on me with but she has denied that they were still together by the time she conceived. According to her the test result is wrong she claimed that they had breaks up in July 2020 we got back together in September 2020 she conceived that same month which is right according to the child birth date. I believed she was few days pregnant when we got back together or she had slept with both of us at the same during conception. If I am not the father the other man is surely the father.
Is the suspected father still her colleague at work? Has he been informed of the situation? What's the current relationship between wife and co-worker like now? Have you ever snooped on the text or WhatsApp messages? You need to if you have not.
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 9:31am On Sep 30, 2022
27Pushing30:
What this means is that she ONLY came back to you ONLY because she was pregnant for a man WHO OBVIOUSLY was not interested in marrying her.

Please for your safety and peace separate again and this time move for divorce on the grounds of infidelity.

CAVEAT: You are free to disregard this advice but women will be women … remember that.
That's the koko of the matter. She left the husband on the flimsy excuse of "he sent N200,000 to his sister" because she was already cheating with her co-worker. That one must have promised her heaven and earth. When she then got pregnant, the playboy co-worker japa. She then went back to plan B to beg the husband for reconciliation. Immediately the had sex, she declared pregnancy. The guys still in love accepted even though he knew she cheated. After 9 month baby ended up looking like the co-worker. After DNA, it is confirmed that baby is not his. Wife still lying that she had sex with co worker a month before coming back. Man is still SIMPing and doing "pick me dance".

Paternity fraud should be prosecuted as 419, because it is obtaining through false pretense.
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 9:18am On Sep 30, 2022
Sweetplum:
Anyone who can raise her. If the original father is notified of his crime and he wished to take the child, let him have it. If the husband of the mother or the mother want to raise her, let them have her. Infact, the best people to raise her are the mother and her husband. This is to spite the father.
Spite the father? How? Spite the father for enjoying free kpekus without suffering any consequence. This your reasoning is why men fùck women randomly and indiscriminately without thinking of the children left behind. In the US, you could go yo jail for abdicating your responsibility of indiscriminately fathering a child without child support.

Besides, the day he decides wants his child, the law will be on his side, all the court will require is a DNA test.
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 7:46am On Sep 30, 2022
Johnnyjohnnyman:
Sorry bro I don't think that's a good idea , why would you punish a innocent child for her mother sin? Don't you think letting her to go would be better than allowing her stay for you not to treat the child equally because the child will grow to know that her step father had never liked her it will affect her badly. If I choose to forgive and accept the child I will continue to be taking care of her just like I am doing now until the day she will leave my house. I will not treat her any different. Unfortunately I can't for my own sanity both mother and child must go
Bullshit. Punishing which child? Is it him that is punishing the child or the father who takes no responsibility for the reward enjoying repeated orgasm on your wife.
You people seem to forget different cultures for different cults. That's why I love the Islamic world or even ancient Jews, they would have since ostracised the adulterous woman. Some south American cultures kill an adulterous woman by pushing a big pole into her private part until it punctures her stomach.

Maybe it acceptable in Anglo-American culture which you guys seem to subscribe 100%, but its not acceptable in many other cultures.
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 7:15am On Sep 30, 2022
zedegit:
Children in broken homes don't usually turn out fine. Forgive for the sake of your children.

Most of those advising you to kick her out are not married.
The house is already broken. The baby belongs to another family. Abi, you expect the mans family to accept another man's child into their clan?
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 7:10am On Sep 30, 2022
Sweetplum:
It's not easy to get who ll raise kids. 3 kids for that matter. The solution depends on if the wife is really sorry for her deeds and is ready to make the marriage work for better again. If the wife's changed for good, make d man collect her back. A known devil is better than a new Angel
You have failed to suggest who will be responsible for the illegitimate child.
Family › Re: Unfortunately I Am Not The Father Of My Fourth Child by wirinet(m): 6:49am On Sep 30, 2022
Starz825:
Bros.. there is nothing you can say against that woman that you won't make sense....

The deed has been done...what's next..?

Now the man is thinking about the welfare of his children...
I doubt if he wants to take care of them alone...
What about his own welfare? I mean his own mental welfare. You want him to suffer and struggle to raise a child fathered by another man and at the same time suffer to raise his 3 kids? What about the father of the baby? He bears no responsibility for his own child?

Have you thought about the psychological torture he will experience in his own home? Have you thought about the new family dynamics on how the other children will relate to the new child? The others children will claim "this is my father's house". Will the man still be able to have sex with his wife, when the child will always be a reminder of her infidelity.

To me the best option will be divorce and a good Co-parenting arrangement. Even the Bible supports divorce on the grounds of infidelity (and here we are talking about illegitimate child).
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:16pm On Sep 29, 2022
benalvino3:
Air is gas and when gas is compressed it states is fluid.
Air or any other gas is fluid whether its compressed or not. Fluid in plain English simply means no define shape, but takes the shape of its container.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:11pm On Sep 29, 2022
benalvino3:
your own image distinguishes fluid from Air. water(fluid), Air(gas)

so what is the state? is fluid-solid? water can be solid when it is ice. you know how to distinguish terms you don't look dumb.

like when you compress gas, it changes form. it will be in fluid state, when you decompress it, it goes back to gas.
Go back to your secondary school and demand a refund if you took any physics class that is. Also English comprehension fees should be refunded.

Gases including air are fluids according to physics. Seems you never heard of Boyle's and Charle's laws.
Business › Re: How Access Bank And The Court Helped Me To Recover My Money From A Fraudster!!! by wirinet(m): 2:52pm On Sep 29, 2022
shortIGBOman:
This can only happen in the North. You see how things work in the North. The Court you approached is in Kano and the access Bank that helped you recover your money is in Kano too.

This is almost impossible, if it were in the South and if it were in the EAST, just forget your money. Cause you can never recover your money from there. grin

God bless the North for their uprightness.
My thoughts exactly. This can only happen in the North where there is still a bit of compassion and humanity. In the South its all "dog eat dog," syndrome. Everybody aims to use the slightest opportunity to exploit you, not minding if you speak the same language or share the same religion.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:21am On Sep 28, 2022
benalvino3:
quote tucker saying what you just claimed. I will wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLb0QeCQF_I
Biden in is out words said there will be no Nordstream 2 and he promise they can take it out. he cannot control Germany to stop using the pipe, and he cannot force Russia to stop pumping gas, what can he do? they can sabotage.
I don't want to hold brief for Biden, but that's how he talks. He said he will remove prosecutor general Viktor Shokin and he "quid quo proed" President Poroshenko to remove him. The difference is that that was the official US government and Europen policy.

If he wanted to stop the Nordstream2 project, he would not need to bomb it clandestinely, he would have pressured Germany and Europe using various economic and diplomatic means. Afterall Trump stopped the project diplomatically and Biden restarted it.
When Biden restarted the Nordstreams project, you guys were up in arms. Now that it had been allegedly sabotage, you guys are also up in arms against Biden.
Russia cannot attack its own Money Cow and Germany cannot stop what keeps them warm. so who did it? If you asking me, I will first look at those saying they will take out the pipeline.
What then will US gain from bombing the pipelines? Yes, it will deny Russia some funds but Russia had indicated that it will turn off the taps by December anyway.
If it was sabotaged, it could be anybody, including the MAGA movement.

You guys are just anarchist. You want to destroy everything, even yourselves.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:34am On Sep 28, 2022
benalvino3:
are you going to cap for the globalist idiots like sheep all your life?

it was bombed, it was sabotaged. and Biden and Nolan have earlier said they will take out that pipeline. it was not a natural leak because evidence has ruled that out and points to sabotage.
Saying he would stop the nordstream pipelines means he would bomb the pipeline?

If Trump days "I grab dem by the pussy", you say it's locker room talk, if he says "fight like hell to take back our country", you will say he meant peaceful protest, but Biden says he will stop the nordstream project, you say he meant he will bomb the nordstream pipelines.

Tucker Carlson has concluded that the Nordstrom pipe bursts was ordered directly by Biden and called for his prosecution without any evidence, even before investigations began on what truly happened.
Celebrities › Re: I’ll Never Accept Polygamy – May, Yul Edochie’s Wife by wirinet(m): 5:21am On Sep 25, 2022
NezzyMike:
Hope your wife won't monopolize hers too, small pikin talk.
Men don't get pregnant. If she does not monopolize her's and gets pregnant, who will take responsibility for the baby?
Celebrities › Re: I’ll Never Accept Polygamy – May, Yul Edochie’s Wife by wirinet(m): 5:18am On Sep 25, 2022
pocohantas:
She should rest already.
You are still bearing his name.
Obviously still living in the house you both have always lived in.

He was at your birthday and you guys took pictures together.

If you don’t want to do, leave!

I understand that she is hurt, but all these things are not defined by word of mouth or social media posts.

Since she is still there, she should stop posting nonsense. Stay calm and grab what you can. grin

No dey post to impress social media in-laws. They don’t send you!




Na love na. I too gbadun Naija men. Even first love and virtuous wife must taste from their wickedness. grin grin
I don't even understand what she was saying as she was speaking from both sides of her mouth. So what's her conclusion? Is she leaving or staying?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:13am On Sep 25, 2022
1stGenAmerican:
What sounds irrational is the baseless theory that the January 6th insurrection was organized by the FBI. Even more irrational is the claims that it never happened morphing into the claim that it was organized by the FBI.

The My Pillow CEO is a lunatic who still believes the election was stolen. His phone was confiscated with good reason, there was just cause for it to be taken.
That's their Modus operandi. They throw up all sorts of allegations, some utterly ridiculous. First it was Antifa that stormed the Capitol, then it was peaceful tourists, then it was Pelosi and Capital Police (many of whom were injured or killed), now it's was the FBI that organized it. The irony is that they shy away from making any of Those claims under oath - in court or to Congress. They opposed any actual investigations into January 6, they refuse to come and make those allegations before the Jan 6 commitee. They only make noise on fox and far right media. The same thing with the election lie and the Mara al go raid. That's why I love judge Dearie's order - Provide evidence or shut up.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:52am On Sep 25, 2022
Ibime:
The first people to.order that Toyota Mirai and break it apart will be the other car companies

That's how Tesla fooled us that their EV technology is too far advanced for other companies to catch up until all companies released an EV with similar range last year

Hydrogen looks much more promising than EV. I would keep riding my diesel until Hydrogen market is developed with fuel stations everywhere
Hydrogen is the logical fuel of the future. It's the most abundant element in the universe, it is the fuel for the Sun, meaning its the primordial source of all our energy. It's even the hydrogen in hydrocarbons that makes it burn. Best of all, it's byproduct is simply water.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:35am On Sep 23, 2022
basilico:
I have been talking about sentimental value of a property or rather the brand name behind it. You accuse Trump supporters of being poor and cannot afford a good life. This kind of reasoning is childish and dishonest at best.. Thats how Hitler started demonizing particular races and to him they were expendable. You can see Joe Biden calling MAGA supporters who come waving patriotic flags as the worst Domestic Violence extremists.
Talk about who had been demonising others? What an irony. The MAGA movement just like most other nationalist movements is predicated on hatred. Hatred of Mexicans, immigrants, Muslims, blacks, leftists, the press, pro abortionists, globalists, anyone not sharing their views or ideas. Without appeal to hate, the MAGA movement would be dead.

Maybe its due to lack of exposure that you uttered so Or its because they did not vote for Obama or maybe you never ever bought any property besides a jalopy. A simple case. If Christian Ronaldo and Samuel Eto’o sold their Buggatis which would fetch a higher price ?
Lack of exposure? Me or you? I am in the construction industry. No property can be valued at 1000% its general estimation value. Estate valuers input sentimental value when making appraisals, they can never be that off the mark.

What's you experience in the property market that you think Mar a lago can be valued over 700 million?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:57am On Sep 23, 2022
DeepSight:
Completely agree the banks must be partners in fraud, but sometimes the value of a property can radically escalate depending on its history. When a celebrity has lived in a place for example, it can affect the value of the place. And for many (misguided) millions in America, Trump is a cult hero. Just saying.
Agreed there are sentimental value to properties, but 1000% is extra ordinary.
Trump is not the only celebrity that buys and sell properties and his MAGA cult worshippers can never afford to lodge in any of his properties not to talk of buying on, as most are poor disgruntled semi educated blue colour workers.

Besides, that does not explain the over exaggeration of the living spaces.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:53pm On Sep 22, 2022
feedthenation:
---Trump is so highly intelligent that he used---Secret Telepathic Unilateral Preemptive Irreversible Declassification (S.T.U.P.I.D.) defense to declassify the documents---
Not only that, any document he touches becomes automatically declassified. The problem is that no other person become aware of the declassification. Also what happens to other copies of the same classified document, do they also become automatically declassified?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:44pm On Sep 22, 2022
IjeBos:
Lol. You do understand the NY AG's office looks over probably the center of the World's finance system (Wall St). So she probably has some of the TOP appraisers at her disposal in order to hold BIG NY firms accountable. One clear instance: He listed his apartment at 30,000 sq ft. It was only 10,000 sq ft. Sq footage is not a subjective valuation. And then said his house was worth 300 million. No apartment in NY has ever sold for close to that much in that time frame. I think the most was 100million.
What I don't understand is why do the banks play along with Trump and accept his valuations? And then give loans on these extremely exaggerated valuations.
Any sensible adults would have an idea of property worth within his surroundings. Even without professional estimators and valuers, an average worker can estimate within 50 - 100% of property value within an area. At worst you can check the online property market. That he could get away with almost 1000% inflation is unbelievable.

It's more absurd to inflate property space. Are you telling me the bank's valuers cannot tell the difference between a 10,000 square meters space and a 30000 square meters space just by looking at it? You don't even require a tape rule to differentiate. Imagine Mara a lago being values at 700 million dollars and not even naira.

Those banks needs to be investigated. They must be accomplices in an elaborate money laundering scheme.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:21pm On Sep 20, 2022
basilico:
You chose what to believe. Why did Mayor of DC and Pelosi reject 10000 National Guard troops on that day? Was it because the feds had already planned with the capitol police to make sure there was violence. In a mob once the ring leader does something mob physchology takes over. There were several people with megaphones urging people to go on They have never been arrested.
Trump told his supporters to go protest at the Capitol Not inside .By the time he was done with his speech Ray Epps gang had already removed the barriers and were about to enter the Capitol, the magnetically locked doors were opened from inside by Capitol police .
Trump saying it will be wild does not mean violence. If I invite you to a wild party what does it mean. Only that you want it to mean according to the way you are intepreting itl.
You can repeat the right wing media lies 1000 times, it can never make it true. Trump never gave anyone orders to deploy the national guard. The defense minister confirmed he received no orders from President Trump on Jan 6.
National Guard is under the control of the executive - president and governor and not under the speaker or even mayor. The president can even deploy the national Guard without the consent of governors in exceptional cases. The speaker has no role in the deployment of national guard.

Trump saying a protest will be wild does not mean violence? What does it mean then? This was a protest where they were shouting "hang Mike Pence" and even transported gallows to the grounds.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:16pm On Sep 20, 2022
CoolUsername:
Wrong.

The planned event was to protest at the Capitol. Some extremists among the protesters broke in and damaged stuff. There was no grand conspiracy. It was a protest that got out of hand. I condemn the violence but it wasn't organised with violence as the end goal.
Wrong.

The event was a well planned and coordinated coup, designed to stop the certification of election results by Congress.

This was Steve Bannon a day before the January 6 riots.
https://youtube.com/shorts/t7rSZl0u2n4?feature=share


On the day of the protests itself Trump and his close aids cajoled to crowd to enter the Capitol. The speech by Trump and his aids was nothing less that a declaration of war.
https://youtube.com/shorts/QJ3V7pTKRbc?feature=share

Below was Trump's tweet on December 18, three weeks before the January 6 riots. Obviously they anticipated well in advance that it was going to be violent.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 1:59pm On Sep 20, 2022
CoolUsername:
So what exactly were the riots for?



Cool, so why won't you condemn violence from BLM and Antifa as I did with the Jan 6 rioters? Why are we arguing in circles here?



Ok, since violence isn't justified. I'm sure as reasonable people we can agree the violence from BLM and Antifa wasn't justified either. I'm sure we can come together to condemn the Jan 6 rioters and the BLM/Antifa rioters, right?


Right?
False equivalence. BLM and Antifa was a protest that turned violent to protest the perceived injustice against blacks expecially after George Floyd was murdered. It had no political undertone as it was not organised by any politician

Jan 6 was organised to stop violently the certification of election results and distrupt the transfer of power to a new government. The goal of the organisers and rioters was to harm the Vice President, the speaker and other legislators who wants to certify the election results. It was in effect a coup to stop the transfer of power. In other countries the organisers and participants would be executed for treason.

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