₦airaland Forum

wowcatty:
Wrong! If the states can't make and have power on motor vehicle ordinances, then Nigeria is a slave warehouse as I said earlier. For example all over the world, it's not a crime If you park in the wrong place but your car can still be towed, impounded and auctioned off if you don't pay your fines. I'm sure Lagos gave them that option but they didn't meet up. How can you people love being tied down like animals and be proud of it?

No one is questioning the powers of states to regulate motor ordinances or even land and property. What I am saying is no state should have the power to deprive citizens of their property without following constitutional provisions.

Abroad as you stated, they do not confiscate your car by towing it. They tow it in lieu of you paying the stipulated fines. The government do not convert your car to your property. It can only do that if you refuse to come to claim your car after a stipulated period and going through a proper judicial process.

Even in Nigeria there are laws and procedures for confiscation of citizens properties (and even money) which are tied to criminal offense.

Here are the legal procedures for confiscating citizens private property.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://nji.gov.ng/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/ASSETS-FORFEITURE-ETC-NJI.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiYifiwuZv6AhV5hv0HHdZ0CC8QFnoECEcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw26VN6eJmluBE6Negl6GauV

wowcatty:
How is it unconstitutional? What is the local law got to do with Abuja constitution? Impounded vehicles are auctioned off all over the world if the terms to get the cars back are not met. If dept of motor vehicle too, cityhall or whatever it's called is under Abuja, then Nigeria is a slave warehouse. What power is left for people in their homelands? Sick!

Abuja law is what binds the country together and it is superior to any other law.

Vehicles are impounded and auctioned off all over the world if they proven to be proceeds of crime or used to commit a crime after the owner had been found guilty by a court of competent jurisdiction, and not for civil traffic violations.

Section 44 of "Abuja law"
(1) No moveable property or any interest in an immovable property shall be taken possession of compulsorily and no right over or interest in any such property shall be acquired compulsorily in any part of Nigeria except in the manner and for the purposes prescribed by a law that, among other things -

(a) requires the prompt payment of compensation therefore and

(b) gives to any person claiming such compensation a right of access for the determination of his interest in the property and the amount of compensation to a court of law or tribunal or body having jurisdiction in that part of Nigeria.
More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-44

Morphinne:
Kindly read what you quoted over again and especially the last part. Aren’t we saying the same thing, sir?
Away from that, every state has its own set of rules which must be enforced and if any of these enacted rules doesn’t go down well with you, you’re free to leave the state to other places not enforcing such laws. You have no right to say other people’s state laws isn’t right , and if you think you can, go to Saudi Arabia and challenge their public execution capital punishment laws. We can only appeal to the Lagos State govt to review this particular law with a view to ensuring that the punishment is reduced to making these offenders pay heavy fines or just locking them up as no punishment is too much for someone who doesn’t care if his action causes bodily harms or death to other humans. No punishment is too much for attempted murder. The rate of insanity going on in Lagos is way too much. Go to the Republic of Benin or Togo by road and the first thing you would notice is how orderly the motorists comport themselves while driving (I think something is inherently wrong with most Anglophone African countries). There are dedicated lanes for motorcyclists who are always wearing their protective helmets. Traffic sanity must be restored in Nigeria by fire by force. Nigerians need iron-fisted type of governance.

You are still engaging in emotional blackmail to press home your point. I have lived in Lagos more than you have time you have lived on earth. I have higher stake in Lagos than you do, so quit that nonsense and childish rant of "leave Lagos if you are not happy with the government or laws".

Just like I was screaming about the Lagos State Environmental Laws passed by the Lagos State Assembly over 10 years ago before It was overturned at the courts, the law impounding and auctioning people's cars for traffic offenses is unconstitutional. It cannot survive judicial scrutiny. If someone is motivated and rich enough to take the law to a federal high Court all the way to the Supreme Court, the Lagos State Government would lose. I have already outlined the main problem of the law, which is that traffic offenses unless injury or death is involved are civil matters and that most times the driver that commit the traffic offense is different from the car owner.

Nigerians are unruly not only in traffic situations but in almost all facets of life. This is because our laws and institutions are very weak, especially against the rich and powerful. They rich and powerful elite break the law with impunity without any fear or consequences. The ordinary man see these and feels tempted to break the law alsk, but suffers the consequences when caught.

Morphinne:
You’re also right. I was not fully in support of this auctioning at first but that stance changed when I started seeing people narrating their ordeals just because some mobile fools decided to be unfortunate. Why should anyone suffer as a result of someone else’s stupidity and negligence?
Oga barrister should go and tell this to the faces of people who have had their loved ones either killed or perpetually restricted to wheelchairs without any hope of ever living a normal life again. But I still believe a heavy fine should be the best way to go. Encouraging people to buy auctioned items is nothing but promoting the habit of stealing and I see no reason why that should be legal in the first place. Also, this defaulters should be tried in courts with pictorial and video evidence.

You are looking at the issue with emotions instead of logic and fairness. Most negligence or laws that are flouted often results in death or injury. That does not justify the seizing or appropriating of someone else's properties. Over speeding, breaking traffic light, drunk driving, driving without a valid license, etc has resulted in death or injury to others. So also building without approvals have caused buildings to collapse resulting in numerous deaths.
Eating and drinking non approved drugs, foods and drinks has resulted in even more deaths. Will the seizing and auctioning of the buildings used be appropriate punishment while leaving the actual perpetrators of the crime?

thesicilian:
The law is like religion: different people will always interprete it the way that best suits their own narrative.

The impounding and auctioning of peoples properties without following due process of the law is unconstitutional. If there is any law to that effect by the Lagos State Assembly, that law is unconstitutional.

First of all, Traffic offences are civil offences unless where cases that resulted in death or injury. Then we can start talking of manslaughter or injury.

Secondly, in most cases the person that violate the traffic law is not the owner of the car. It might be a driver, a borrowed car or even a stolen car. Which law permits the punishing a person for offenses commited by another person? What will be the punishment for the driver of a car not belonging to him or her?

Thirdly, the Lagos state government is adept at taking law into its own hands. They believe they are the accuser, judge and executioner for all alleged offenses. They can impound your car for the flimsiest reasons, they can seal your house or shop with little notice all without passing through the courts.

They take the advantage of the costly, slow and tedious judicial process to exploit and blackmail citizens, as they know most people can't sue them to court for all their excesses.

Psalmistproject:
Biafrans have been traveling and living abroad for centuries. Today you can agree with me that we have more criminals in the country than the few living overseas.
And among the biafrans Overseas, it's a known fact that the brilliant ones are more than the few doing crime. But if your Nigeria was working, no one will think of traveling for green pastures. How many Americans commit crimes in Nigeria on our streets?
Of course you are not daft

You are the daftest. How many other third world countries that you see their citizens go to other countries and start constituting nuisance? We have Ghanaians, Jamaicans, indians, Sri Lankans, etc, immigrating to other countries - legally or illegally, and they work quietly making money for themselves and families back home. You guys go to other countries and start doing drugs, scam and cultist. When the government and the people start reacting, you will start shouting hate and looking for who to blame. From South Africa to Ghana, from India to Malaysia. Now even UAE a tourist country, is restricting Nigerians from travelling to their country.

This is one reason I support division of Nigeria into Biafra, Arewa, Niger Delta and Oduduwa. The international community would be able to identify the criminal tribes and sanction appropriately. I am tired of being profiled along with tribes that spoil our image abroad.

Grandmeister:
A people that ran back to their land and said they don’t want to be a part of the Nigerian project are the ones who “brought war to you”…you may not realise this but you’re in the 3rd stage of rabies infection.

Declaring independence unilaterally will bring war to you anywhere in the world.

Ojukwu declared war on Isaac Boro when he decided to "run back to his land "

Grandmeister:
Oh you agree Harold Wilson supported the war? But you think Eliza and her cabinet were oblivious of such support? Do you know why the House of Lords and commons was established? NO decision on international politics can be sanctioned and taken without the House of Lords approving it. The people there are NOT elected. They come from a long line of dukes for centuries.
The House of Commons was created when farmers started agitation and demanding for proper accountability of their taxes to the British monarchy. To avoid a catastrophic rebellion they gave them a parliament to give the peasant farmers a sense of belonging. They elect between themselves BUT still come to the House of Lords for approval. That way the common man gets what he wants while the monarchy and the Lords keep their authority. So if you think the monarchy didn’t give full authorisation for the war, pick up a book and read.

What do you mean give full authorisation for the war? You mean the monarch was informed and gave authorization for war before Ojukwu declared independence and Nigeria sent troops to stop the secession?

Abeg, provide the links to the books so I can see the evidence myself.

Alusiizizi:
No he is planning no such thing. I suspect that Morgan will start by challenging her insinuation that the Queen(a constitutional monarch) had the power to do much of anything during the Biafra war(which she didn't). It is then that this make-believe academic will display her ignorance and stupidity for the entire world to see. Making stupid rants on twitter is one thing. Defending your statements from pointed, penetrating questions/dissections from a debater in front of an audience is a completely different universe, a thing that requires good education, significant knowledge base, poise and most importantly, intelligence, all qualities that this ignorant mentally challenged lesbian degenerate lack. Morgan will tear her to pieces rhetorically in a public arena and she will never show her face to a public audience again on account of shame.

That's why I suspect her professorship. I can excuse ipob and its supporters because they are mainly illiterates, but for a so called professor to display such ignorance is unbelievable.

The British monarch has no powers to declare war or engage in foreign policy. That's the job of the government of the day. It was the government of prime minister Neville Chamberlain that declared war on Germany not the king. It was the government of James Harold Wilson that supported the Nigerian side in the Biafran war and not queen Elizabeth and it was the government of Margaret Thatcher that declared war on Argentina in 1982 and not queen Elizabeth.

What queen Elizabeth's role was in the Biafran war that warranted such a vitriolic attack, Uju and her supporters are yet to tell us

Grandmeister:
Lol. Uju is from the Igbo race, her mothers fought the warrant chiefs in the infamous Aba women riot in 1929. Women fought with pestles and lost their lives but they got what they wanted. The tax imposed on them was abolished. Her people fought in the civil war and she lost family members (which was her main anger and reason for that tweet). And YET you say her forebears chose slavery over death?? Do you now see how dumb you sounded? Instead of demanding history back into your academic curriculum from fellow men like you who you call ‘leaders’ you are here cussing uju. Uju has more balls than most Nigerian men.

Her mother's did not fight the British, they only rioted against taxation. Many other tribes in Africa fought the British directly in a war and lost. The Binin kingdom fought the British and lost, the King was murdered in Broad daylight and the Benin people massacred. The Benin people had moved on. You won't find them bringing back old wounds and making an enemy of the British people.

TheWolfen:
If most Igbos supports Biafra movement. Then the same percentage of them that support it will also support uju arya statement. That is how you get the picture

So most igbos see the British monarchy with is the sovereign of the British people as their enemy?

Will that help them in getting their Biafra?

Grandmeister:
Of course Eliza isn’t the problem now because she is dead. The point uju made was that Eliza oversaw a civil war that claimed the lives of her family members.she didn’t accuse Eliza or the British government for anything else! My point still stands, those who call her a coward will NOT dare to exchange words with the richest man in the world no matter what he says against them. Infact they will take the condescending tweets from bezos as an achievement lol. Nigerian men are that lowly minded. Most of them calling uju a coward can’t even look face to face with their local government chairmen for fvck sake!

What do you mean by oversaw? Was she the one that instigated or started the civil war? Was the the one that instructed the government of James Harold Wilson to support Nigeria as against Biafra?

What exactly were her direct roles in the Nigerian civil war according to your accusations?

Antoeni:
A man was dating three women and wanted to decide who to marry.
He then gave them a test. He gave each woman $10,000 and observed what each did with the money.
The first one did a total make-over which included a fancy hair style, make up and several new outfits. She then dressed up for the man and said, "I have done this to make myself more attractive to you because I love you so much." The man was impressed.

The second woman went and bought gifts for the man. She bought him a new smartphone, a Rolex watch and very flashy clothes. As she presented these gifts to him she said, "I've spent all the money on you because I love you so much." The man was again impressed.

The third one invested the money in the stock market. She earned $40,000 and gave him back his $10,000. She then deposited the remainder in a joint account. She told him that she wanted to secure their future because she loved him so much. Obviously the man was very impressed.

The man thought for a long time about what each woman had done with the money.
In the end he left all three ladies
And married one of his side chick the one with the biggest buttock .

*MEN will always be MEN.*
Happy weekend

The moral of the story is, the first one should have used her own $10,000 to include big bottom in her make over.

Tochj:
Our problems in Africa is that many of us don't know History.
Do you know how Attah of igala died?
The Queen contributed.
Do you know what killed Jaja of Opobbo?
The Queen killed him.
The Queen stole large amount of diamonds from S/A.
Mandela survived by God's grace.
Wishing the Throne well is bcuz of God
If not She commited Atrocious acts in the world.

And did any Igala person wish the late monarch a painful death?

Did any South African insult the sovereign of the British monarchy and by extension the British people?

Why always the Igbos? You guys take about everyone hating the igbos, why don't you mention the igbos hating every other person first?

The British people are still grieving their monarch, you will see a worse backlash after they are through grieving. You don't insult the parents of a grieving person unprovoked.

Barthley:
This woman dey show them pepper for abroad, a queen i stan! The real queen

I still ask, is are view the general consensus among igbos in general?

Anigreat:





So proud of you Uju. she got the warrior blood in her.

Now just wait and see bitter lamentations from our brothers now on this thread.

Are you insinuating that igbos support her insults on the newly deceased British monarch? Is it her personal opinion or the the opinion of the generality of igbos? The British public might want to know.

Theunbothered:
When you go abroad and the host country doesn't want you they will deport you by any means, it is the duty of your home country to handle it regardless of the circumstances.

Unless Abike has revoked their citizenship and declared those individuals stateless she has a job to do.

I'm not going to engage people determined to respond like dumb children, go to your nearest primary school if that is the limit of your brain capacity.

I am not the type that expect any favour from another person or government. I will never come to your house and demand or food and drinks because I am hungry or thirsty, much less demand for transportation to leave your house, all as a right for visiting you.
I have learnt to live within my means and responsibility.

It's not the government responsibility to return all Nigerians stuck in foreign lands as a result of their breaking their laws. If it was a result of war like Ukraine, natural disaster or persecution by foreign countries, l would understand, but breaking other countries immigration laws, engaging in crime and cultist and other nefarious acts, and then demand governments must bail you out is ludicrous.

This is just once city - Dubai, in one country - UAE. If the government should bail out all Nigerians in one sort of self inflicted trouble or another in all the countries of the world, the Government will not have time or resources for anything else.

We need to start a moral revolution and start learning how to behave like human beings with values.

Jeezuzpick:
So you will wave the "vow" in her face like it's an employment contract.

Man, if this is your position and you're still single, do yourself a favour.

Don't get married.

So we should disregard the signed "vow" because its not an employment contract? You still are yet to answer why you agreed to sign the "vow" instead of just remaining girlfriend and boyfriend?
You want to pick and choose the portions of the "vow" that favours you and disregard the portions that favours the other party, abi?

I have been happily married for over a decade. And my wife or I has never broken our "vows".

Theunbothered:
She's pulling out every excuse possible from her anus to avoid doing her job.

That woman is known to be very lazy and deaf to the plight of Nigerians abroad.

As long as the people hold Nigerian passport it is her duty to bring them back, they will sort out who is a convict or not when they get here.

In effect we should all be buying one way ticket when travelling abroad, because Abike is duty bound to bring us back whenever we become stranded?

Jeezuzpick:
Whatever.

A man can force himself on a woman when she doesn't want sex o, even in marriage.

The physical and even emotional trauma can be there, whether less intense or more.

Why as a man would I force myself on my wife if I love her?

Substituting marital privilege and entitlement for love is evil and animalistic. Why not address the reason she doesn't want sex at that moment?

Instead, a man should woo his wife. Yes. Toast her for sex. Make her happy. Compliment her. Help her out with chores, sef, so she won't be too tired or stressed.

It's not simping. It's sense. She's happy in the marriage. You get to bust some nut.

It's a win-win!


Don't brutalise your wife in the name of conjugal privilege o. You might bring out a part of her you didn't know existed.

The technicality of the law won't help you as a man when you're in the morgue after consuming a compendium of toxins inside vegetable soup because your wife is fed up of being used like the kitchen sink.

You are still avoiding to acknowledge and answer the main question - why did she sign the marriage vow if she didn't intend to keep it in the first place?

Didn't she see the phrase - "to have and to hold" in the vow?

MrPADDY:
No, failed government

Which came first, the egg or the chicken?
Who spoil Nigerian first, the government or the citizens?

Are the citizens better than the government?

Psalmistproject:
Biafra agitation is a call for equity and freedom.
Even you can agree that the Nigerian State doesn't give this.

But most of the exconvicts in Dubai and other countries are Biafrans. It is because the Nigerian state doesn't give equity and freedom that makes some biafrans go abroad and start committing crimes? If you get biafra, will that stop them from committing crimes?

hazan041:
So because they are ex convict they should be allowed to suffer


OMG ��

Allow to suffer, how? Didn't they travel to Dubai with return ticket? What were they doing in Dubai in the first place? How were they surviving?

You travel to another man's country, you commit crime, they jail and deport you, you come dey say you are stranded and na government make you dey stranded. How?

If indeed you are stranded, is that solely not your fault? You need to beg the government and Nigerians in general for help, and not demand as if na government send you on assignment.

MrPADDY:
Irresponsible leaders

And responsible citizens?

Sialiah:
Are they still Nigerians or not ?

If they are Nigerians nko? Are they the only foreigners in Dubai? They are not even the only West Africans, but they are the most unruly, criminal minded and alway playing the victim.

In a little while, no other country in the world would allow Nigerians into their soil.

Wittyglam:
it’s not about sexless. He wants it everyday and her body can’t carry it. They have spoken about it several times but no change.

Most people don’t speak out cause of society. Go through the comments here and you will see why some people choose to die in silence.

That's why I say sexual compatibility is vital in marriages. He wants it every day, she can give it only once in two weeks. So what will be the solution? Rape, second wife, olosho, marriage counselor?

I remember a friend of my brought this same problem to my office over a decade ago. He was very upset that he wants to have sex every two days, but the wife says she can cope with every two weeks. His solution was to get another wife. And he actually married another wife. You can imagine how the family was affected by the second marriage. He already had 5 children with his wife and the other wife also now have 4 children.

Wittyglam:
don’t sugarcoat it. When your spouse force is/her is rape.

You still don't get it. We are saying why not divorce your spouse before you get to the rape stage. Because you will be divorced the minute you charge him/her to court for rape. Then the divorce will be more complicated.

Wittyglam:
that still doesn’t mean I should force my husband into sex without is permission.

There are days our body can’t handle it.

Yes there are days our bodies can’t handle sex, but the two parties must discuss and come to an amicable understanding before or during marriage. both of your should have an understanding and be sensitive to each other's sexual needs. Once that is missing, the marriage should be dissolved to avoid unnecessary pains and frustrations.

Wittyglam:
I have a colleague that is dying in silence because of this, she can barely walk. Most times she can barely handle sex but her husband doesn’t care and force her into every time.

She is scare of speaking up.

Why is she dieing in silence? Is she being threatened or forced to stay in the marriage? Why not divorce peacefully and let the two parties go and take care of their sexual needs?

It just doesn't make sense to me to be in a sexless marriage.

[quote author=Temmylee01 post=116689087][/quote]That one na for obodo oyinbo land and not Nigeria, abi you no see the name Mark Giuliani.

In the US women are placed above men in terms of gender issues. So rape and sexual harassment is very wide and fluid. Here in Nigeria, you cannot rape your legally married wife.

Amayabor1:
Where una for dey come out sef? There is nothing like a man raping his wife according to Nigeria laws. No court in Nigeria can convict a man of raping his wife. Know this and Know peace.

Thank you my brother. You can't understand what women want, especially the feminist variety. Make man chop kpekus, dem go shout "no sex before marriage", you come spend time, money and energy to do marriage (court, Christian and traditional) in order to get kpekus, dem come dey now shout rape. Rape ko rap ni.

To make matters worse, if man come decide to get kpekus elsewhere, dem go dey shout adultery.

They just want to emasculate and tie men in bandage.

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