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juicy1:
Statistics is a wonderful course,am a testimony to that,when you're out there,you fit to any field,banking,insurance,oil and gas etc.
go and makes it .

NB//
You will be a hot cake when you come out with a flying colours,you know what that means,take your study serious,makes research and implement it.

Are you also a Statistician??

princekay1:
you are only saying this because you are a Nigerian. the difference between Uni and Poly is like that of Senate and House of Rep. lets not shy away from the fact that both are different. its the truth.

tell me why an HND grad is admitted into 300 level in University? are they still the same thing?

That is the discrimination we are talking about. Starting from 300 leavels or 200 levels does not mean that the HND certificate is inferior to the Bsc certificate. What matters most is the credit load of your course. To get a Degree in the UK and in Nigeria too, one requires a minimum of 120 credit hours. Before you can obtain HND in Nigeria you must have a minimum of 120 credit hours too; so what is the difference??

@hotchic

Statistics is a good course, but you have to be very serious with your studies because you will be faced with very tough mathematics courses like calculus, differential equations, linear algebra, trigonometry etc. coupled with computer programming courses, operational research courses and advance statistical courses like experimental design, econometrics, biometrics and statistical quality control.

If you take your studies very serious you may be able to work in IT as a programmer or software engineer (that is if you took your programming courses very serious). You can also go into Networking and Database. You can also wish to work in a research lab with other scientists. Banks and other financial houses need people with mathematical skills, so you can work in a bank too.

Go ahead and do Statistics and become a Statistician. it's a good course.

princekay1:
what you said is a thrash! how can you compare a university graduate with an HND holder? in engineering, Bsc holders are engineers while HND holders are "technicians"!

when you talk of standard, quality of delivery, all round knowledge then you will realise that university graduates have an edge over their polytechnic counterparts.

why do you think courses like LAW, MEDICINE, PHILOSOPHY, SOCIOLOGY, PHARMACY and CELL BIOLOGY AND GENETICS ENIGINEERING are not offered in polytechnics. besides, have you been to these polytechnics before to check their standard? try Laspotech, Mapoly, Ireepoly, Poly Esa-Oke, etc, you will know that it is better to wait at home taking professional courses than to waste precious times in these schools.

thanks.

For you not to know that Technicians are people with only ND means you are ignorant of what a Technician is. HND graduates in Engineering Technology are called Technologists, and Technologists are more or less Engineers with practical skills.

HND in Nigeria can be very well compared with the Bsc certificate. It has been proven several times. HND accountancy graduates do better than Bsc Accounting graduates. HND Enginering graduates do better practically than BEng and Bsc Engineering graduates.

Stop looking down at those polytechnics you just listed; they have chunned out several guys that are doing well today. Don't we have universities that are sub-standard in Nigeria?? Many of the universities in Nigeria can not be compared to most polytechnics like kaduna poly, yaba tech, fedpoly Bauchi, Ibadan poly, Auchi poly etc.

Polytechnics chunn out Technological graduates which is what developing countries need to develop fully; but because of the discrimination even people that would have done better as Technological graduates all run to the universities where they end up knowing little or nothing about Technology.

How can they be competent with all the outdated things they teach them in Nigeria universities?? they are Trying sha, but we cannot say they are competent except those that studied abroad or those who have worked abroad before.

@HND-holder

Any latest news about HND and polytechnic education in Nigeria?

Abi government don forget the problems of polytechnics and HND holders all of a sudden?

Do people still apply to go to polytechnics in nigeria??

bunna:
HI NAIRALANDERS,
I REALLY WANNA KNOW WHY PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO GO TO POLYTECHNICS,THEY DO PREFARE UNIVERSITIES.
WHY ?
IF You HAVE A NY GOOD ANSWER TO THIS ,PLEASE LET US KNOW

Simple; because they want to save themselves from future discrimination in the labour market.

davidylan:
them dey pose with trainer aircraft?

You dey mind them??

These are L39 trainer aircrafts for ab-initio figther flying in the NAF. They are stationed in 303 Flying Training School, Kano.

You guys should stop decieving yourselves. The worst university in Nigeria is more recognized than the best polytechnic in Nigeria. flee away from HND certificate. If you are still young you better go and do a Degree program and save yourself from discrimination in future. I'm a victim of HND discrimination so i don't want others to be trapped in it.

@HND-holder
Does COREN have any right to approve or disapprove any course in the polytechnic?? I thought it was NBTE alone that has the power/right to do that? What if Yabatech runs the program, and at the end of the day does n't write "PART TIME" on the certificate they issue; how would COREN know that it was through partime the concerned Technicians/Technologists passed through??

[quote author=Hnd-holder link=topic=2248.msg1483932#msg1483932 date=1189510586]DEAR ALL,
B. Sc. vs HND: An Unsettled Case is not settle o

To avoid future problem please after ND run away from Poly ooooooo

Have I spoken well?[/quote]Yes, you have spoken well. i wish they will listen and flee away from polytechnic and HND.

@HND-holder
Please help me advice people, especially youths not to go to any polytechnic. if at all they would go they should get only a National Diploma and get out of there; they should not near HND at all.

polytechnic is polytechnic. all of them still award HND certificates that the society doesnt respect. so whether yabatech or kadpoly or IMT or birnin-kebbi poly or Moshood Abiola poly, they are all the same thing; no respect for their certificates in the academic sector and labour market.

for now, please lets leave polytechnics alone and focus on universities, the reigning schools in Nigeria until something is done to make polytechnics relevant.

if that is what they want polytechnics to be doing (i.e. producing middle-level manpower), then they should stop polytechnics from going ahead to do HND after the ND program. Let HND be stopped then.

@James7bond
What is so special about YabaTech?? atleast for now it's still a College of Technology that awards ND and HND certificates, and not a university that awards Bachelor's Degree. Therefore a graduate with 2.1 BA/BSc/BEd from Taraba state university or Gombe state university will get better recognition than someone with Upper credit HND from YabaTech or Kaduna poly. some companies/Banks in Nigeria will turn you down with HND. Even some govt parastatals turn HND holders down. Better wait for YabaTech to become a full fledged University and start awarding Bachelor's Degree before you talk, not now that they still award *HND*. If you have ND better apply for D.E. in the nearest OOU, Ago-Iwoye or LAUTECH, Ogbomosho.

Flee away from HND program, thats my candid advice. I'm talking from experience; atleast i passed through HND too.

You still want to go for HND?? Are you out of your mind?? You want to suffer in future abi??

Hi, you guys still want to go and do HND?? Beware!! There is Discrimination o. Had i known would be too late. Go to any university and get a Bachelor's Degree, even if it is a Local Government university, it would still be recognised better than the HND from YabaTech.

@HND-holder

What facts do u have?? Tell us please!!

When will polytechnic HND graduates start smiling in Nigeria?? I just hope Yar'adua will look into this isue of discrimination against holders of HND certificate in Nigeria.

@edusegzy
Please help me find the eigen values and eigen vectors of the matrix A.

                       3  5  -2  0  7  -4   1
                 
                       0  -8  2  -3  0  9  -7
where A =
                       6  1  -8   3  0  4  -6

                       1  9  -1  -6   0  7  0

                      -2  -5  -9  7  3  0  8

Let them give recognition to polytechnics and HND certificate in Nigeria the way they do to universities and Bachelors Degree certificate; chikena!! that is all we want.

@Sijien
I was born and brought up there. Some of them were my school/classmates while some met me there and became my friends when they joined the force.

Most guys don't program in COBOL again. I use to write COBOL programs those days way back in school, but i don't really like it because of its lengthy codes and writings.

@Mariory

They don't have anything more than i said. Ilhave lived in different Airforce bases north, south, east and west in nigeria; and i'm still living in one of the bases, so i know what i'm saying. Take it or leave it. Most of those Aircrafts listed in wikipedia don't exist in the NAF inventory. It's pure propaganda. Go to their combat base at Makurdi, PH, Yola and Kainji and visit their hangars and see for yourself, fleet of grounded jet figthers and combat helicopters.

It may also interest you to know that most pilots in the NAF have not flown any plane for more than 15 years now while some have been grounded and will never fly in the NAF again because there are no aircrafts for them to fly; especially those who were type-rated as MIG-21 and Jaguar jet pilots as well as BO-105 helicopter pilots.

They will soon cover her up and tell Nigerians that she she is innocent; just wait and see.

hamabra:
true talk, only God can help,for the government itself is confused or don't u think so

Yes; they are even more confused than you may be thinking. Bunch of confusionists!! what do you expect??

There is apathied in Nigeria, especially in the labour market and educational sector.

Sleekfun:
we can never use HND to compare with NOUN Bsc degree

What do you mean by this?? Anyway you are correct, HND from Nigerian polytechnics can never be mate with with NOUN Bsc Degree. is NOUN a school?? School for bunch of old men/women and illiterates who want to hold Degree certificate by all cost. No be the school wey OBJ dey be that?? Him no see UI, UNILAG, IFE and even UNAAB before him go there??

@FACE

You are funny. We know ourselves sha. All of us na one, no shaking.

Digiman:
@ Zebra - you are not doing your friend any favours by mentioning his name here, remember its a public forum, its not the best place to discuss matters that concerning national security.

Men thanx, i ve removed it.