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Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 5:11pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: bible verse cannot interpret itself. what you put up there is subject to the reader's interpretation. I ask that you prove (using the bible) that zikkyy is fallible on matters that has to do with the interpretation of the bible, and you are throwing up bible verse with supporting message. so where is the proof that am fallible? truthislight: This is talking about knowledge of God. no relationship with zikkyy's fallibility truthislight: very far from the discussion. This one here has more to do with taming the tongue. truthislight: So? if it is written that there is none rifhteous nkor? Its not nothing to do with zikkyy's fallibility. Abeg answer my question jor |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 12:43pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: More 'out of point' references i dey come for you. make i attend to my oga at the top for office. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 12:33pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
shdemidemi: achievable if am saying "the scriptures says so & so...". you cannot truly validate my interpretation, you can only come back with your own version/interpretation of the scriptures. though its possible your interpretation will make more sense. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 12:28pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
Enigma: @ Zikky You know my position on Papal infallibility. i believe i have stated that in the past, but.... Enigma: @ Zikky ..it can only be an opinion. your/my interpretation. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 12:24pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
shdemidemi: so when i have dreams that becomes reality, you don't think its from God shdemidemi: again it comes down to the matter of interpretation (of the word of God). The written word is there and is always the same. how we interpret is a different matter. If you say God speak to us through the word, then i will say God can very well speak to the Pope. It's left for the Pope to either allow God guide him in the interpretation/processing of what he reads or reject God and do it his way. I think the issue here is determining the decision of the Pope. Are we in a position to do that and say with 100% confidence that the Pope rejected the Almighty? to do that, we have to believe we are correct or we cannot be wrong, and you know what that means.......infallibility |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 12:11pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: Nairaland 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 12:08pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Thats not what am saying. my question is this: who decides the car that will be involved in a collision? shdemidemi: I agree. how do we identify the person speaking the truth? when they are all quoting/interpreting the scripture (as they see it, maybe) and we on our part also processing their interpretations as want to understand it. so who is heading in the wrong direction? |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 11:57am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: what do mean by 'stick only'? |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 11:51am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: Okay then, using the bible kindly prove that zikkyy is fallible on matters that has to do with the interpretation of the bible itself. Thanks. truthislight: okay na, am listening to you. answer the question above. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 11:40am On Nov 28, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Thank you jare. simple question, and truthislight is dancing atilogwu round the question shdemidemi: i will not pretend to understand you here, kindly clarify. thanks. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 11:36am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: The above is what we call 'out of point' (OP) back in the days. If you write this kind answer for exam, you don fail be that am asking if you believe God can appear to a Pope, you are quoting irrelevant bible verse |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 11:30am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: This is why i avoid this kind of discussion, instead of focusing on the discussion you are assessing the person behind the post unlike you i can say my view is not influenced by the denomination(s) i associate with. If my views tend to align more with the catholics, maybe i am more catholic than JW |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 11:24am On Nov 28, 2013 |
shdemidemi: ...what about the people interpreting the bible? are they all correct? shdemidemi: where? |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 11:22am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: Leave the bible out of this infallibility matter. if you are not infallible, on what basis do you accuse the other person of propagating false doctrine? So if you agree you are fallible, then you can only give your opinion which may or may not be correct. abi |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 10:45am On Nov 28, 2013 |
Enigma: Thank you jare Enigma: The above is possible. Enigma: again, you may be right even though have never heard of the "Pseudo-isidore" |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 10:35am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: you dey dodge my question you don't believe God can appear to the Pope? yes or no |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 10:29am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: The bible does not show 'everything' Christians should do or not do, that is my position. if you want to argue that a practice is false, you don't go looking for commands or laws in the bible. The bible is a guide, not a list of dos and don'ts. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 10:16am On Nov 28, 2013 |
shdemidemi: We are not saying the same thing regarding the highlighted bit. Who is a Christian? and who decides what is truth? this is the part i agree with italo, you have to be 'infallible' to make that statement believing you are 100% correct. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 10:10am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." you don't expect to see every instruction written in the bible. Education will/can not tell you everything you need, but it should provide adequate guidance. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 10:05am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: @truthislight, you be lawyer which evidence you want again? |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 10:00am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: Lol! You are arguing with anger |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 9:58am On Nov 28, 2013 |
adsonstone: ...and what is the stuff you posted above telling you? |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 9:50am On Nov 28, 2013 |
truthislight: Its possible he did. or you don't believe God can appear to the Pope truthislight: Which kin proof you want again? You want them to print another version of the bible as proof it was God's instruction? |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 9:37am On Nov 28, 2013 |
Enigma: No wahala. I agree that nobody have the right to say other believers are false Christians. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 9:19am On Nov 28, 2013 |
shdemidemi: This has nothing to do with any arrangement. If you don't believe the man on the pulpit is preaching the truth, you have no reason sitting in front of him. there are two options, (1) accept his sermon or (2) walk away. abi you prefer the option of climbing the pulpit and collecting the microphone |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 8:27am On Nov 28, 2013 |
On the issue of Papal infallibility i would say infallibility is needed in a church structure for there to be order church leaders need to be infallible (whether their teachings right or wrong) to avoid disintegration of a church. I don’t think infallibility is something you fight over; you either accept or reject it. Catholics will accept Papal infallibility while others (non catholic) may reject. rejecting the Pope’s teachings may result in him/her ‘porting’ to any other church (e.g. frosbel ). There is also the option of just accepting that part you are comfortable with. It’s the same for every other church; e.g. Adeboye or Oyaks can be considered infallible in the eyes of their members (at least to the extent only the pastor can ‘reverse’ himself). |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 8:09am On Nov 28, 2013 |
shdemidemi: This may not be 100% correct. i think the issue is more of interpretation of scriptures. |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 8:06am On Nov 28, 2013 |
Una still dey on this matter. na wa o |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 3:20pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
truthislight: why you talk so? |
Religion / Re: Defend Catholic Teachings Here by Zikkyy(m): 3:16pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
truthislight: maybe he is telling you there is no way you can see things differently, unless you are just giving your opinion. Bros, you have to be infallible to argue with italo or to say italo is wrong No vex if am not making sense; started my reading from this page (10) |
Religion / Re: The Bankruptcy Of The Prosperity Gospel: Which is teached in Nigeria by Zikkyy(m): 3:07pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Joagbaje: what about "kalo-kalo" gospel?
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Religion / Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by Zikkyy(m): 9:30am On Nov 26, 2013 |
Joagbaje: This is what happens when you mistake the "rhapsody" for the bible the bible did not say you should bring your tithe for ministers to pray over them. Joagbaje: You mean God stretched his hand from Heaven to collect the tithe himself The beneficiaries of the tithe were the Levites, widows, orphans, even aliens. So which of the beneficiary above equate to giving to God and which one equate to giving to satan? Joagbaje: What are you talking about? the merriment tithe was also annual. Deuteronomy 14:22-23 (NIV) 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 1 Like |
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