₦airaland Forum

I thought the basic salary of the President is far more than that. 3.51 million is not huge if the published figures are correct.

banmee:
That is still your problem. Refusing to accept the obvious. How can any Nigerian living in Nigeria boldly come out and say as a car owner they don't give policemen bribe. Keep lying to yourself. Refusing to accept a problem is same as perpetuating the said problem. How do you all change things when you don't want to accept facts.

the issue is I don't like agreeing with things that I cannot prove, because they are mere speculations and no substance. if you have asserted that some Nigerians are corrupt, I would have agreed with you because that has a prove. but agreeing with you on your view point is totally alien to me as a rational thinker. but what do I know, a popular saying has it that, every one is entitled to their opinions. however, when push comes to shove, prove of opinions takes the centre stage. in that case an opinion that can't be proven is worthless. and for your information, there is nothing like fact in all you have said. just saying all Nigerians living in Nigeria are corrupt is no fact, it a mere statement of conjecture. it only when you prove the statement that it becomes a fact.

banmee:
I hope you don't actually believe there is one clean person living in Nigeria? If that were the case, you would not have had decades of every single public official looting you blind. Mathematically it is almost impossible. Not in Nigeria though. And it is not about you feeling you have to bribe a policeman. Living in Nigeria, you have to. It is in the blood. Why are you arguing against the obvious?

this is exactly what I am saying. you are still conjecturing without any prove. prove to me that I have given bribe to police while owning a car. all these talk of is in the blood blabla is no prove whatsoever. if you come to Nigeria now and tell me am corrupt and I sur you, how will you prove am corrupt is my point. because you cannot tell the court that its obvious and is in my blood. how do you detect corruption in the blood given a blood sample?

banmee:
You still don't get it. If you follow the logic, even if you don't have a car now, you will eventually buy one. Aren't you going to give policemen bribes when you do? To you, this is normal everyday life in Nigeria but it is definitely not normal. Your children are looking at you. What do you think will happen when they grow up? Why do you think every elected politician is fleecing you dry hence the topic? You guys need to start telling yourselves the truth. You all like to avoid it.

no, you are the one not getting it. don't generalize people in such a manner you are doing. how do you prove that I feel giving a bribe to a policeman is normal cos I live in Nigeria? you will agree with me that you cannot prove it aside mere conjectures here.

banmee:
As a car owner in Nigeria, you would have been stopped at one point in time by a policeman. Can you honestly say in the presence of God you don't give bribes? Be honest to yourself. To you that is not significant but it is a problem. It solidifies the way Nigerians think.

not everyone has a car. the issue is you are making a general statement covering over 100 million people and that is why your comment is antagonised. fact is there are corrupt people even where you claim you are leaving. as you are not giving bribe does not imply others are not, and since you are not the secretary keeping the register of corrupt people, you may not know. next time you want to make that kind of statement, make use of words like "some" "many" "most" etc but never "all".

banmee:
I said every Nigerian living IN Nigeria. Every Nigerian in Nigeria is corrupt.

expatiate.

Ravenna:
Which company Tinubu and Amaechi work to worth $200b?!
Zombie forever.

why didn't Jonathan jail tinubu because of corruption? why is wike not nailing amaechi knowing he made away with rivers money? or may be they are not corrupt after all or somebody was/is a coward

sportskid:
When will corruption be traced to Rotimi Amaechi, Dambazau, Buratai, Tinubu and Rocha's Okorocha.? We still dey watch

when PDP has the opportunity to lead again

FunkyMetahuman:


Make dem just give me 10% of all this money

Shey I no go dey follow the brain dead election mourning Ediots shout probe amaechi first

may be we should ask wike why he has not sue amachi for corruption since, considering the supposed money he embezzled is rivers state govt money and not federal govt money.

bounty007:
Take her to court and ask..not on media. believe she will answer you rightly.
Am not patience..but I know deceit and propaganda when I see one.

Between..au did buhari and apc finance 2015 election.cos huge money was involve..and guess most of the players don't have the funds..when individually put together..or if they,How do the individually get the funds?

every one should relax. patience has taken the matter to court and the court will judge

basadenet:
If the money actually belongs to her, then it should be returned to her without unnecessary cheap publicity thus our clueless Government is going about it. Just trying to nail Gej family at all cost and every opportunity.

what are you saying? did efcc call her name over this money? is she not the one releasing press statements up and down even though she has sue for the money? think well before you start crying here

kenbee:
Why will EFCC only file for an application in court seeking the total forfeitur $15,591,700? If Mama Peace is truly guilty, why won't EFCC charge her and make her to be jailed as penalty to the offence?

if the money is seized and Mama Peace remains a free person, I will regard the as political victimization

don't you get it? efcc is prosecuting those who have links to the acct base on paper evidence of which mama has none. ok, present documents that show she owns the acct to us here. if she laying claim to the money, then it her duty to prove ownership and not that the efcc will start prosecuting someone they don't have evidence against. that will be witch hunting that you are talking about.

Anabel:
Why is she not being convicted? I understand Fayose cannot be convicted at the moment but what of Dansuki and Metuh. I'm just hearing all these money and I'm not hearing someone being sent to jail.

Mama Patience! You hard earned money for health issues? What are you treating? How hard did you work to earn it? Why are all these money in Dollars and not naira? And some people are blaming the current President for recession. This country has been recessed before the handover. Is everyone forgetting the CNN headline 3 days before handover. I'm not trying to blame past President, becos he's not aware of most things that was happening. My point is, I want someone to pay for all this. I want to see someone being convicted and sent to kirikiri or else, this madness will never stop.

Hard earned money my feet!!

the thing is govt has encouraged plea bargains so much. I don't know how this Will help in the fight against corruption.

Zceesneh:
People will say GEJ was killing his opposition if he had jail tinubu

then that is the height of naivety in leadership. how can you assume what people will say to make wrong decisions? that is cowardice.

dimieprincess:
Have you heard of the word "entrust"

calm down. are you not aware that she is in court to lay claim to the money? efcc made investigations base on evidence they gathered which did not implicate her. she is the one one claiming it so allow her to prove ownership. to me all these press releases on a matter before the court is not sensible.

nototribalist:
no PDP was too busy fighting to make Nigeria the best economy in Africa instead of chasing people around. But since Buhari have chosen to pause the economy to fight his political enemies with dss and efcc. We will help him go down

really? good luck to your mission then.

Candyrain:
Isn't it funny dat the same hypocritical u who defended Buratai and Dambazzau is here calling for the confiscation of PEJ's money without charging her to court to prove her innocence from the allegation? Zombism is damn real

you misunderstanding the whole issue. efcc has no evidence against mama. the people who have issues with efcc are already charged, some have pleaded guilty already. patience is the one claiming the money she has no connection with base on bank documents. and are you not aware that she has sue efcc and Skye bank? why are you now saying efcc should take her to court while they have not accuse her? be logical and intelligent with your views in a public forum like this instead calling people names. it is not worth it.

nototribalist:
until I see thiefnubuu in jail.

I just wonder why PDP did not jail him when they had opportunity. may be he is not corrupt after all or gej was a coward not to nail him.

dimieprincess:
I now believe that 90% of zombies are stark illiterates. I am usually taken aback on how they write, may be they are paying someone to do it for them because their reasoning is just like a day baby.

No one above is asking EFCC to charge her to court to prove her ownership just as Professor Itsa Sagay opined. You don't just maligned people because you are poor, this hatred though caused by poverty of the mind is been taken too far.

I think efcc can find it hard to charge her because no documents showed that she owns the money or the companies. she is the one claiming ownership and the onus is on her to prove so. she has already gone to court for that purpose isn't she? but base on evidence before the law, she has nothing to do with the money for now.

I believe the govt is making sincere efforts to bring back the girls. we must be patient and support the efforts.

this an intelligent submission from the monarch who must have witnessed the war first hand. not some nairaland internet warriors who do not have the slightest idea of what a war is.

excel101:
This thing that PMB's, is doing to the ex first lady will open cans of worms similar issues that will affect relations and wives of our ex leaders. Cos since its he has taken his corruption battle to the top. Watch it

una don't start again. is pmb that ask mama peace to come claim the money that no documents linked her to? that is how una take sheriff matter put on pmb.

idupaul:
Do you understand the Genesis of this problem at all? Somebody else was being investigated for the 15million dollars found in four of his companies and Mrs Jonathan just came forward to claim ownership the EFCC has advised she brings concrete and legal proof of ownership which till now she has failed to ...the strange part is that there is no legal or Corporate linked between her and the said funds..If you ask me the woman is simply pricing trouble where there is non because nobody had accused her of owning the funds in the first place but in a rather strange twist she accused herself of owning the funds and yet can't even deliver a single legit connection that it's her funds

some people are just blindly hateful. I doubt if they have the capacity to comprehend your point

dimieprincess:
And it was your money that was used in establishing the Akpo community bank in 1997 right? Moreover, as at 1997 Amaechi was a house boy and she had a bungalow so you see

only if words on nairaland are tenable in a court of law. thanks goodness all the parties are in the court and the law has no place for emotions and sentiments. in fact truth and fact are two different things in a law court.

prettyboi1989:
he wont, he needs gullible people to convert into members so he can make more money for himself.

I don't just understand

dimieprincess:
So you know that before you and your co travellers are whipping unnecessary media trial. Nigeria, the only country were accused are tried on the pages of newspaper and sentenced as well while the accused walks free.

Shame, shame, shame!!! She is yet to be invited for interrogation, why?

madam calm down and stop this shameful behavior. who is giving her media trial? was is not her who came out to claim the money in a money looting case? did efcc invited her in the case? and don't compel efcc to invite her. according to documents she has nothing to do with the money. the documents showed 4 coys and some individuals and not patience and by law she is not the owner of the money. but she has gone to court so don't come and c ry more than her on nairaland

Mmadu111:
BBM me for details...56131163

I will appreciate if you can summarily explain here.

ishiamu:
another registered customers money is what is given as the 30%.... they use another person's money to pay them... the mmm is banned in China, was banned in south Africa too... it's a good scheme while it last.. but wwhen it burst you will see the devil with your eyes

but the proponents say mmm does not have access to peoples money, that u pay straight to a members acct. the thing is confusing. if just someone backing the scheme, who is sensible can just come forward and clarify this

can someone who is sensible explains how the 30% interest in a month comes abt? from the comments there is no central acct with mmm, so who is paying the interest as mmm will not trade with the money for profits. mmm proponents should explain this to the house. are the mmm coordinators not incurring any expenses? where do they get money to pay their workers? something is not just adding up here.

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jamesy212:
MMM is not a bank.
They don't have access to people's money, rather they are only trying to reduce the way bank is scamming us.
I received alert every two weeks from MMM.
To find out more about the platform, call or WhatsApp 08178607019

jamesy212:
MMM is not a bank.
They don't have access to people's money, rather they are only trying to reduce the way bank is scamming us.
I received alert every two weeks from MMM.
To find out more about the platform, call or WhatsApp 08178607019

jamesy212:
MMM is not a bank.
They don't have access to people's money, rather they are only trying to reduce the way bank is scamming us.
I received alert every two weeks from MMM.
To find out more about the platform, call or WhatsApp 08178607019

PLS KINDLY EXPLAIN HOW THE 30% INTEREST COME ABOUT. WHO IS PAYING THE INTEREST? HOW DOES MMM PAY THEIR STAFF AND OTHER EXPENSES? AS ACCORDING TO YOU THERE IS NO CENTRAL ACCT WITH MMM. PLS KINDLY CLARIFY THESE

it does not make sense as big buttocks are not unique to only Yoruba women. if she was talking about stretch marks, one would have understood

who is advising this woman? she should keep quiet already. you have this matter before a court of law, allow the court to judge it and stop this nonsense of statements release up and down.