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Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 2:16pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Sijioke: Getting a job is not by first class, or second class upper.. It is by the grace of God.. I wonder why an illiterate would be a party chairman. And he would keep telin first class folks who are day dreaming of employment that he his more successful than them.. And u knw wat.. He is really saying the truth.. May God help us. Define success . That is the problem I have with Nigerians , success only relates to how much you have , a lot of Nigerians would say Michael Angelo wasn't successful if they knew he died a pauper. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Olutola88(m): 2:18pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Ad4: Goodafternoon all. I took time to read most of the post on this topic. OP, you are right in most things you talked about but one thing I will never agree with you is your saying that "what you leave school with determines what you get in life."What you will be in life far outweights your certificate. Your certificate is a piece of paper compaired to what your potential in life is.sir, kindly show me the part of my post that pointed that what you finish with in school will determine where you will get to in life. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 2:19pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Sijioke: Getting a job is not by first class, or second class upper.. It is by the grace of God.. I wonder why an illiterate would be a party chairman. And he would keep telin first class folks who are day dreaming of employment that he his more successful than them.. And u knw wat.. He is really saying the truth.. May God help us. Define success. That is the problem I have with Nigerians , always relating success to how much money you have. A lot would say Michael Angelo wasn't successful if they realise he died a pauper |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by pchax: 2:21pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
OP never said: 1. You can not be successful in life without a 2.1 or first class 2. You can not get a job without 2.1 or 1st class 3. God's grace is not needed in the job market 4. Only dull people make less than a 2.1 5. Success in life is a function of what grade you make. Rather, OP said: 1. Making a 2.1 or 1st class improves your chances of getting a job in the corporate world. 2. Corporate Organizations are constantly seeking graduates with 2.1 or 1st class. 3. Making a 2.1 in University is not rocket science. Just be diligent and hardworking [s](which I earlier disagreed with cos my school makes it look like rocket science)[/s] What OP wrote is clear and it is a fact. Many of you that are coming up with the "Only God gives Job", "Educational qualification doesn't correlate to success in life" rhetoric are clearly missing the point and should go read OP's post again. If you think what OP said is not true or not fact-based kindly make your own post that can be as informative and clear as that of OPs. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Olutola88(m): 2:21pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
many people didn't read my post well before commenting, and some that even read have problem of comprehension and paying attention to details. I pointed out some salient facts and that should make some people not make some unnecessary comments. 1 Like |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by tall2ce(m): 2:23pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
op in my 300l first semester I had cgpa of 3.42 den 300l second semester rised to 3.55 and now am in 400l 1st semester in lasu currently writing first semester exams @op I dey read like mad and dry tell God make he help cos state schools can be frustrating at times |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 2:23pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
pchax: We are in the same shoe bro... I "just" managed to cross the 2:1 hurdle at the very last attempt.... It was not EASY.... The department produced only just 1 first class and "Just" Over 25% of us made 2:1 I repeat, it was not EASY |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Truth234(m): 2:29pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
klassic: After seeing Robert Kiyosaki's book" why A& B student work for C student who owns the company, I finally decided I dont need good result to make it in life . All I need is a good plan, strong will, courage , good praying habit , the right people who need the likes of me that can see from afar and make imagination possible and loads of patience. Then first class and 2.1 can apply to do the job for me while I end up paying them peanut for good use of their big brains. If you have all you stated above, there is no way you wont graduate with a First Class. Successful minds are always successful no matter what you throw at them. If you cant successfully navigate your way to First Class or 2:1 with a good plan and strategy, how can you compete in a global business world where everything is ever changing? 3 Likes |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Olutola88(m): 2:30pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
tall2ce: op in my 300l first semester I had cgpa of 3.42 den 300l second semester rised to 3.55 and now am in 400l 1st semester in lasu currently writing first semester exams @op I dey read like mad and dry tell God make he help cos state schools can be frustrating at timesjust thank God for HE has done it for you already. you will definitely finish with a 2.1 by HIS special grace. by the time you finish with your 2.1, you will know that you have scaled the first important hurdle. you will now go to your mentor or come back to nairaland for advice on the next line of action. that is if you wanna look for job o and if you know you don't have one God father somewhere. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by pchax: 2:30pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
pchax: taiwolusol: I would help you repeat it bro, IT WAS NOT EASY! My class had no first class. Highest was 4.2/5.0. About half of us had an extra year and I finished in the top 10% of my class with a 3.56/5.00. We were 140 in my set. Once again, IT WAS NOT EASY!! 1 Like |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 2:30pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
ollapaul: NESTLE is the best when talking about employment processes transparency. I've been looking for someone to HUMBLE with KOBOKO. Don't tell me its you. #JuskJokes If Nestle is the best, Nigeria is doomed! |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by sunnydayasaba(m): 2:33pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
donroxy: When you are no more qualified for Graduate Job then you should promote yourself by advancing your academic and professional career into next level of M.sc/Professional exams !!! Well said, but u can't rule out d pain some parents went through to see their kids through degrees and asking them to further go through more pains will not be easy when your not even sure to still get a job bcus then most employees will be requesting for unrealistic job experiences. Graduate trainee still remains the best way to get a job and if one can't get a job through that means, frustration and anger set in and motivation gets low. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 2:34pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
the battle is not for d swift nor d race for d quick, but time and chance...God is not a God of certificate, all fingers are not equal,it all depends on u and ur determination and God's grace...Dont blive in dat stupid post 1 Like |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by ibrahimbabagana: 2:34pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
op talks sense. i finished with 4.02, studieds agric-economics and now working with a very prolific company. 1 Like |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by chuggy(m): 2:35pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Mehn God dey, I no dey fight for BGS. If I see 3.51, I go happy die. D Hussle is blessed! |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by obidiegwujane10(f): 2:36pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
do u fill like giving me your number too |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 2:36pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Joy83: That's a great one Op, Smh! Everyone is now a 2:1 graduate. We are still hanging up on the same lies our parents used to tell us...always claiming they used to take 1st in class. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by cloud9usher: 2:38pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Olutola88, nice write-up, first and foremost I'd like to unequivocally agree that a 2:1 gives you an edge over the 2:2 graduates especially for shortlisting purposes. Most graduate trainee programs have a minimum of 2:1 as their requirement. But then I can tell you that for a graduate position which needs 5 people for the job, you would conveniently have up to 1,000 2:1 graduates applying, that's where the 2:1 needs something more striking to get you the job. Now to 2:2 graduates, I'd advise folks in this category to add a proven competency other than your 2:2 grade to make you shine in the eyes of an employer. I'd use myself as an example, I polished my writing skills, my diction and communication skills. Weeks before finishing NYSC, I wrote a proposal to a top multinational firm, attached my CV and a cover letter, I got an invite for an interview, just minutes into the interview the HR manager said... "I love your diction!" ...Your proposal was an excellent idea, I just wanted to hear you talk." And as you guessed right, I got the job! Mind you, I graduated with a 2:2 Apart from your 2:1 or 2:2, every employer respects "IDEAS" over a certificate. I have a very good job today because I sold an idea to my employer. Another option for 2:2 graduates is to add a professional certification to your certificate to give your CV some shine, go for Internationally recognised certifications in your profession, the likes of CISA, CISCO, NEBOSH, PMP, etc. If that's far reached you can go for certification from Nigerian Institutes, the likes of ICAN, Nigerian institute of Management, Chattered institute of Personnel Management and others. I bet you that a 2:2 with CISA or ORACLE 11g would beat a 2:1 graduate to a job. A 2:1 just gives you a better chance over the 2:2 graduates for the case of Graduate trainee programs, how many jobs do Graduate trainee programs offer? VERY FEW! And lastly, Dear OP- Olutola88, intuitively I'd assume the "88" in your username points to your year of birth, that makes you 26 at least by the end of this year, that's a big disadvantage for most graduates even if you had a 2:1, if you are a fresh graduate and seeking for a good job in a top private firm and your age has hit 26 your chances are VERY slim. That's the sad truth, I know a lot of folks with 2:1 who have suffered from this. My last words to everyone is this ...Hustle hard!! If you made 2:1 make sure it works for you, if you got a 2:2 acquire extra skills and competences to convince an employer that you are competent enough. All the best everyone! 14 Likes |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Joy83(m): 2:40pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Samcathe: Nice write up @op.Countless number of female out there with first class and 2'1. So being a female doesn't mean one can't finish with good grade. As we have female with third class or pass grade, so we have it in male. So, gender is not an excuse to graduate with lesser grade. Even as I am, I can't marry a lady with less than good 2'1(first class preferably)...lol 1 Like |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 2:43pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
kaka22: @op... Well done, you are on point. To make at least 2.1 is not everything, it is the only thing. The issue of connection is over-exaggerated in Nigeria. Yes, we have issues like nepotism,favouritism and connections(who you know) but that doesn't mean that there are no companies that recruit based on merit. MOST people who come out to say that 'what you have in school will not determine where and who you will be in future' are the unfortunate and the unlucky. What you have in school will surely determine who and where you will be in future. If you later establish your company/business you can be rest assured that you still have your 2.1 or first class pali(certificate) to search for work when the need arises.Yes, we have some 2.2 and third class fellows that are making it but that doesn't mean that 2.1 fellows are also not making it. I make bold to say that the percentage of 2.2 and third class jobless fellows is more than that of 2.1 and first class. Even if you won't use your 2.1 to work, still make sure you have it because you never know... And at the end, you didnt even state what you graduated with. Nice point though. Just a mixer of Bs and Cs will give one that. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by winiwini: 2:44pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Guy, na wash!!!!!!! your 2.1 is useless without God's mercy Pass with God's mercy is in LNG enjoying life.... |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by pchax: 2:44pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Akpolagha: the battle is not for d swift nor d race for d quick, but time and chance...God is not a God of certificate, all fingers are not equal,it all depends on u and ur determination and God's grace...Dont blive in dat stupid post Kindly quote a line of OP's post that says something contradictory to the highlighted above. Now whose post is the silly? Kindly improve your reading and comprehension skills. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Acidosis(m): 2:44pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
pchax: OP never said:and I'm saying: 1. If our government is mentally and technically okay, corporate organisations wouldn't be mocking our hard earned degrees. What is it about corporate organisations? What can they offer? All things being equal, who would reject a promising government offer for a KPMG or P & G job? 2. Corporate organisations wouldn't be seeking ONLY 1st class & 2-1 degrees if we push our government to do the right thing. Note: these organisations aren't after the 1st class/2-1 per se; rather they want a "microscopic few" from a large population which the government has failed to engage. If you think organisations are after 2-1, I urge you to wait till 2017/2018. We shouldn't be preaching unhealthy competition when the available resources is enough to feed all and generations to come. The life of the average Nigerian graduate is not in the hands of corporate organisations; but our government. Everybody cannot make first class degrees; but ALL deserve good jobs. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Olutola88(m): 2:45pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
cloud9usher: Olutola88, nice write-up, first and foremost I'd like to unequivocally agree that a 2:1 gives you an edge over the 2:2 graduates especially for shortlisting purposes. Most graduate trainee programs have a minimum of 2:1 as their requirement. But then I can tell you that for a graduate position which needs 5 people for the job, you would conveniently have up to 1,000 2:1 graduates applying, that's where the 2:1 needs something more striking to get you the job.thanks for your contribution bro. the 88 doesn't stand for my date of birth, I'm younger than you'll imagine. *winks* |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 2:48pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Why Must one struggle to make 1 or 2.1 in school just to end up helping someone else achieve his dreams in d name of looking 4 job. I graduated with 2.2 all I did after my NYSC was to open a SME of my own since it has been success stories 4 me. Some of my friends with first class are still roaming d street looking 4 jobs that iSn't available. 2 Likes |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Kagawa: 2:48pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
I didn't need to read this article in its entirety before I knew it was full of bullsh1t. It is people like you that are the reason why Nigeria is where it is. You cannot think beyond 1st class or second class upper degrees or masters. This article is misleading. Go out there and see how many 2'1 graduates that still do not have jobs. OVER GLORIFICATION OF GRADES. I'm sure this article will enlighten you. https://www.nairaland.com/1898271/these-4-cases-show-why Fine, the companies you mentioned may be hunting for 2'1s, how many are they? How many 2'1s do we have graduating every year? How many times do these companies recruit? How many people do they recruit each time? @truth234.... wait my comment. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by NZAN(m): 2:51pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
SUMMARY: Be an entrepreneur, all this grading stuff na paper work. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by TobiAruna(m): 2:53pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Bro pls wat course did u study wat of some one who studied an Agric course like soil sci nd land mgt and graduate with 1st class is it easy For the person to get gud jobs from multinational? Olutola88: This piece is for those undergraduates that will like to seek for jobs after school but do not have solid connection. A 1st class or 2.1 will help you AVOID or ALLEVIATE the labour market frustration. Nevertheless, the ones that have influential parents, uncles and aunts can also take a cue from it because it is easier to help someone with a good result. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Opetech(m): 2:55pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
celeron40: I finished from the University of Ibadan 3 yrs ago with an Econs degree...I had a 4.7 CGPA...(From a possible 7) which is a 2.1 in U.I...Greatest UITE. I also finished from UI, Biochem April, 2014. Presently serving, Batch B '14. It's nice meeting you. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Kagawa: 2:58pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Truth234: I BEG TO DIFFER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Strategy and plan that aids in navigating to the top of class just to get 2'1 or 1 is not the same as THAT BY WHICH ONE CAN MAKE IT IN GLOBAL BUSINESS WORLD. YOUR COMMENT IS NULL AND VOID, BUT I DO NOT BLAME YOU FOR YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK AS YOU UNDERSTAND AND CHATTER WHAT YOUR MIND CAN FATHOM. GO TO ALABA, COMPUTER VILLAGE, TRADEFAIR, BALOGUN, THOSE MEN DO BUSINESS EVERY DAY WORTH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH CHINA, TAIPEI, HONG KONG, UNITED STATES, VIETNAM, JAPAN, GERMANY.... THE WORLD LEADING BUSINESS COUNTRIES. THEY DO NOT HAVE 2'1 OR 1, YOU ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT 2'1 AND STRATEGY AND GLOBAL BUSINESS... YOU DON'T KNOW JACK. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Infoay: 3:03pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
kaka22: @op... Well done, you are on point. To make at least 2.1 is not everything, it is the only thing. The issue of connection is over-exaggerated in Nigeria. Yes, we have issues like nepotism,favouritism and connections(who you know) but that doesn't mean that there are no companies that recruit based on merit. MOST people who come out to say that 'what you have in school will not determine where and who you will be in future' are the unfortunate and the unlucky. What you have in school will surely determine who and where you will be in future. If you later establish your company/business you can be rest assured that you still have your 2.1 or first class pali(certificate) to search for work when the need arises.Yes, we have some 2.2 and third class fellows that are making it but that doesn't mean that 2.1 fellows are also not making it. I make bold to say that the percentage of 2.2 and third class jobless fellows is more than that of 2.1 and first class. Even if you won't use your 2.1 to work, still make sure you have it because you never know...You have done a very good job. Your contribution is valid. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by legendsilver(m): 3:04pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Good writeup op. I want to know the difference between a 3.49cgpa and a 3.50cgpa? Its obvious some 2.2 graduates are unlucky cause they did all their best but certain factors undermine the chances of making a 2.1. Mind you, some firms understands this making them to drop their grade requirement to 2.2. In essence, get a good grade and equipped yourself with more experience but kill not yourself if 2.2 or 3rd class certificate ends up in your file. Such is life and mind you, a department can't graduate all her students with a 2.1 grade. You will always find the brilliant, the dull and the runs students occupying all the grade level. |
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