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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 11:31pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
jennylove7575: I don't blame these Nigerian women, the society and their background are parts of the contributing factors.. Nigeria society is masculine dominated society. Men in Nigeria get away with lots of misdeeds against women.. If you look deeply into the societal norms and values you will see clearly that Nigerian women are seen as second class and Nigerian men rules. All these, boils down to the society man made culture and tradition.moulded into one thing and expected to act like another |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by ThaProphet(m): 11:31pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
What kind of man will marry a woman who's got no dreams and ambitions of her own? Nothing wrong with a lady getting married after her education (degree, masters or whatever level she aspires) The problem is not using the education afterwards. I detest the term "housewife". Get off the couch, get out of the house and use your education. Housewife = waste of space/unnecessary liability in my opinion |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by haibe(m): 11:32pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Mondisweets: so are you going to be one of those "not so rich guys" that will add misery to these women's lives? i dont get this your type of thinking. So if a guy is not so rich, it then means he is adding to the misery of a lady? What's wrong with the lady helping her not so rich husband to become very rich? Why do African ladies think their financial success depend on men, what a backward thinking. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by jpphilips(m): 11:33pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
sheniqua: I know a lot of offices where a woman can start as a field operative within which she cannot have a child, for the company in question, that period will last for 3.5yrs, before she now goes to the next step. was Nigerian banks using pregnant women for marketing before now? so how will you allow your wife to get pregnant knowing she is a marketer? There are some offices you are not entitled to leave until after you have put in a year of service, so where will the maternity leave come from should you get pregnant? some will tell you that you are entitled to 3months mat leave then half day till six months, they hire another corper to continue her work. it has to be once in 3yrs. so how many kids will you have in that condition? my dear the OP doesnt know sh!t what the real world smells like, most women who gave up and stayed at home equally have good reasons, the OP just needs to hear their side of it. i didnt mention the harassment part did i? OP is a toddler 4 Likes |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 11:33pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Mondisweets: so are you going to be one of those "not so rich guys" that will add misery to these women's lives?definitely not every one will be rich and not every rich man will remain rich forever.. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by sheniqua: 11:33pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
freecocoa: No we cannot and you are right on jobs not being available(story for another day) I said it earlier,if people want to talk about the rot in the society that is a different topic How many of these boys high giving the OP want to work ? How many would rather get rich overnight? Is it not men that get a position with the govt and clean out the treasury in a flash Everyone wants to be rich quick Nobody in Nigeria cares about working male or female Govt workers eat groundnut and drink coke and chat while there ,half the time they are not even there So who is working? Almost every worker lives on bribe and money they can pilfer from somewhere so what is defined as work in Nigeria? 2 Likes |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by oduaboy1: 11:34pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
alaladakosta: But Seriously yoruba men are are lazy, low life , losers. They don't have no future plans, am not saying all of them, cus am Yoruba. But many of them give up easily.How does the rubbish you typed up here correlate with the subject of disscussion.You are a big foool. Don't blame you though.Any tom,dyckkk and harry can claim to be yoruba.Werey alashewo. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by dokunbam(m): 11:34pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Some ladies/women are taking the bull by the horn and breaking grounds But the larger percentage hmmmm... I don talk, counsel, persuade, beg sef, cos i like wen someone is creative and doing something meaningful. some no way, they just want a ready made cash. the money they didnt work for, they cant value it. One girl in my area i told her to do something with her life, she prefer to follow yahooo boys. soon they give her belle and throw her away. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 11:35pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
haibe:well he implied that there will be miserable because they aren't married to rich men, so im trying to understand if he is that "not so rich guy" that will add misery to these ladies' lives |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by haibe(m): 11:38pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Mondisweets: so basically a Nigerian woman's life should not be based on her dreams or aspiration but rather it should be based on nursing another man's insecurities? how is that having an ambition when its living life to satisfy someone else and neglecting yourself? What kind of dream and aspiration is it to marry a rich man in other to be successful? That is derailing and a very thought of a low self esteemed person. And how does a woman working hard to be successful translate to her satisfying someone else? Isn't it for her own good and her environment? What's the point of acquiring education for years if you do not intend to add to people's live and be an agent of change. It is really true that some Africans are backward in their thinking, I just don't know who to blame. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by sheniqua: 11:38pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
dokunbam: Some ladies/women are taking the bull by the horn and breaking grounds You see what I just alluded to The yahoo boy is working and the girl is not Now we know what you folks mean by working hard I hear una |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 11:39pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
sheniqua:lols ... tired of this debate ... in my compound here , I got three housewives who got nothin doing .The just cruise around... its what I have seen. I shouldnt generalise ...but I know this. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by lexopus: 11:39pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
bayulll01:Are you thinking of marrying him? |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by CoCoLav(f): 11:39pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
sheniqua: Lol. Everyone just has different priorities. Chasing coloured paper isn't mine. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 11:40pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
dancok: I saw u there that is why I quote u.(Winks)u dey craze I swear. lols |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by freecocoa(f): 11:40pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
sheniqua:You are absolutely correct, looking at it from the root, the condition of the nation, is enough to kill someone's dream even before the person gets to dream it, na only God go help us sha, still it's just disheartening that when these ladies talk, they don't talk like they would even try to get something for themselves, guess that's really the OP's point. Better to try and fail than not try at all. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by jpphilips(m): 11:41pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
majekdom2: who does the market business in those days ..... my dad is a seasoned chatered accountant with over 47 years experience. He told me his mum supported his education financially .....it has been there . Market buisness does not bring the money that runs the home, it just supports and keeps the woman busy,it is a form of enterprenuer ship where the woman has time for the kids, she can decide when to sell, where and how to sell, she can decide to leave shop to go get the kids, she can as well leave the shop to go make food for her husband, is that what you are comparing with our present day office jobs? So as my employee, you seriously think you will get those luxury while on my pay roll? bros; how old are you? where the husband is incapacitated like the case of your grad father, the wife can step in, but the onus here is that the intervention will be absolutely unnecessary if your grand dad was upto your dad's fees. The Op seem not to understand the challenges of independent young women. 2 Likes |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by sheniqua: 11:41pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
majekdom2: lols ... tired of this debate ... in my compound here , I got three housewives who got nothin doing .The just cruise around... its what I have seen. I shouldnt generalise ...but I know this. And all their husbands are millionaires? Do you know the unemployment rate in Nigeria and that it is even harder for women to get jobs than men? Do you know how many of those women sell stuff on the side or you think working means going out every morning with a briefcase? A woman taking care of the children and the home has nothing doing? |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 11:44pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
haibe:sometimes its better to ask than misinterpret everything, and just go on to blab whatever. She said that Nigerian men expect a woman to work but he shouldn't outshine him, and thats why i asked how that is fulfilling your ambition when its based on someone else's terms. Next time confirm something before arguing for the sake of arguing. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 11:44pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
freecocoa: No we cannot and you are right on jobs not being available(story for another day)I think seqina isnt seeing this because she is married , not in nigeria too .... its normal for a girl to desire a well to do man but not with you having nothing to offer because a woman has got to be a blessing to a man , assisting and adding to him, then you can make a fruitful life. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by sheniqua: 11:48pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
jpphilips: People can make wishes,but is that the reality on ground? How many nigerian men can afford a non working wife? Not many My sister in law was transferred by a bank she works for to another city not minding that she was a married woman with small kids If she quit her job and stayed home ,the OP and her co travelers would call her a gold digger scared of working abi? I have friends and classmates that have quit their high paying bank jobs in big cities because they couldn't cope with working,picking up the kids and the demands of family. By the time you get two queries,the third you are shown the door and you are forced to choose what is important The OP is still a child I agree 1 Like |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by jennylove7575(f): 11:49pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Mondisweets: moulded into one thing and expected to act like anothermeaning? Abeg gist me |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by 50calibre(m): 11:49pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
shymexx: Lmao @ thread. Hahahahahahaha I see you've detonated the first nuke, I can see the radioactive fallout looool you already know what my opinions are. I was ferociously attacked once when I said Nigerian women serve no purpose apart from breeding. It's refreshing to this thread coming from a Nigerian female, and it's the same Safarigirl of the previous thread, apparently I judged her too hastily. We might disagree on certain issues, but she's shown her ability to reason higher than your average naija chic. I got leech killer bruv, a woman who can't bring something significant to the table isn't worth my time, & just like Kanye west said, I'm kicking bit*hes out like pam!!! Nigga |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 11:49pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
sheniqua:its hard out there for a woman trust me! |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Emmalot121(m): 11:49pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Mondisweets: so basically a Nigerian woman's life should not be based on her dreams or aspiration but rather it should be based on nursing another man's insecurities? how is that having an ambition when its living life to satisfy someone else and neglecting yourself?Ambition! Ambition!! Ambition!!! Is ambition for sale? If I'm happy living my life for someone else as a FULL GROWN adult,what is your business?Stop inciting women.Though women need to work to support the home and not 100% dependant, but everything can wait for motherhood. You talk about ambition as if we are in a perfect world that safarigirl thinks we are.In this world, you toil and toil in vain.Leaving motherhood to face uncertainty is never an option.My question for safari is, have you made it in life?As a woman, except if you are lucky, 50 men will sleep with you on your road to AMBITION, people will cheat you e.t.c.Don't let feminism brainwash you to thinking that you are in this world to compete with men. Its not that I'm discouraging you cos its truth.Don't leave emotional satisfaction and motherhood for AMBITION cos you might actually end up loosing both. .SUCCESS IS NOT EASY! NO SWEET WITHOUT SWEAT! 2 Likes |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by haibe(m): 11:49pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Mondisweets: sometimes its better to ask than misinterpret everything, and just go on to blab whatever. She said that Nigerian men expect a woman to work but he shouldn't outshine him, and thats why i asked how that is fulfilling your ambition when its based on someone else's terms. Next time confirm something before arguing for the sake of arguing.Sorry if i misunderstood you.. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by freecocoa(f): 11:52pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
majekdom2: I think seqina isnt seeing this because she is married , not in nigeria too .... its normal for a girl to desire a well to do man but not with you having nothing to offer because a woman has got to be a blessing to a man , assisting and adding to him, then you can make a fruitful life.Yea, the idea of seeing a man as an escape route is the issue here, not the availability of jobs. I think she gets it now though, she's just not cool with the men jumping up and down on the thread bashing women, when they also, would almost do anything to get rich quick. 1 Like |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by jennylove7575(f): 11:52pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
majekdom2: lols ... FYI , I love babes that are into politics... what kind of thinkin is that .. that one man would be sleeping with my wife ... hell no . I see beyond that. its just the way some of us reason. there is perfectly wrong with women taking the lead as long as they have got the capability. an intelligent ambitious lady would always come out bright in whatever she does.its good as you are thinking like this..hope you stick to it. I believe you are still single by the time you are married you go understand.. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by xp17(m): 11:52pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Mondisweets: so are you going to be one of those "not so rich guys" that will add misery to these women's lives?oboy, see as you serious for the matter. my question is "do women really need too much" ? a woman would have heaven and earth, but still wait for the man to pay all the bills, even if the man is making close to nothing. there's this very ambitious couple I know. the man pays all bills, he extends to the friends and family of the lady, but when the man lost his job, the woman picked up the responsibility as the bread winner. but each time there is little altercation, the man would go on hunger strike, because the woman would exclude his stomach from the food of that day. women are very aggressive and get intoxicated when handling too much power or money. I'd rather a woman balances her work with her family responsibility. -celidion gave up her musical career for her sick husband and kids. snoop dog's wife is a full time house wife, irrespective of his notorious nature for drug, but there is still a full time wife to manage him. there was a time his wife spoke about her husband, she said "at home my husband is the best and anything he does outside, I don't care". most over ambitious women are abysmal in marriages. forget omotola this, omotola that. you guys really think her husband is okay not seeing his wife for weeks, certainly not. they might be struggling inside, but portrait what you wanna see, same goes to all other over ambitious women. there is this lady I know, everytime I always see her hiking with her dog around the community park, one day I asked her about her kids and she said she has none , that she and her husband were too busy and couldn't afford the time to raise One. what a dumb excuse!. modesty is always the way my dear. talking your wife to pay more attention on the family, has nothing to do with insecurity, it's just a way to balance the situation. setting a flexible schedule to fit into the family should not be too demanding from the husband to his beloved wife here are some questions: 1- how many men know how to bathe little kids? 2- how many men can cook very well? 3- how many men can stand the kids when they are misbehaving? 4- how many men can handle sensitive issues? 5- how many men can go to the market to shop? 6- how many men can clean the house (except their cars) 7- how many men can wash their kids clothes? 8- how many men have time to suggest what ll work better in the family? 9- how many men really have enough time to stay indoor ? 10- how many men can do from 1-9? women really need to be closer to their home , because, leaving men with the list above, is like pushing your marriage to a disaster. men have a lot come short, you ladies better keep to that and stop trying to change the uncertainty. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 11:52pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
jennylove7575: meaning? Abeg gist meexactly what you said. She is raised and taught on how to become a good mother and wife, but later she will be expected to be a career driven woman, who somehow has superpowers to balance everything out. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by jayjagz: 11:53pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
safarigirl: If you're one who has stayed within the female hostel of any Nigerian University, you'll find that most of it's occupants share similar hopes and dreams- and no, it's not to excel in their chosen career paths.Another thing I know about some is that even when they see a guy that's ambitious and futuristic, why would decline. It's that dubious and mischievous guy pretending for them they want. Well, I can't blame them; most of them don't think for themselves, friends and relatives think for them and they suffer alone. |
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by jpphilips(m): 11:58pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
freecocoa: No we cannot and you are right on jobs not being available(story for another day) you guys are still saying the same thing, even if she made a first class, ambitious and eager to work but no emplyment, what do you advise? the few that invite her for interview want to sleep with her before anything, what do you suggest? yet she has a suitor who wants to settle down with her, are you saying she should turn down the proposal because she doesnt have a job? not to be termed a liability? the OP is just too young to see the big picture, for her to even think that one fifth of the girls in her hostel will smell a wealthy man, how many are they in Naija? a divorcee or second wife perhaps!! |
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