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no room for forgiveness . . . "papa" has already cursed them.

weebee, sorry i had to laugh so hard while reading your post.

weebee:
For heaven sake how many times do we have to drum
it into the ears of people to avoid talking carelessly about men of God
God said touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm.

How many times have we misquoted this verse to say what it does not mean. Here is the verse - Ps 105: 15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
BUT who was this verse refering to? All "men of God"? No ma, please read the preceeding verses . . . it was CLEARLY refering to God's warning to the kings and other nations that the Jews had to pass through on their journey through Egypt unto the promised land . . . please read verses 13-14.

Interesting that NO other biblical prophet used this verse to hide from criticism neither is such found anywhere in the new testament. Please see this link for better understanding.

weebee:
You don't have any right judging them or anybody, leave them to God

neither does your "man of Gawd" have any right to curse any armed robber to die within 7days . . . why not leave them to God? Do as i say come to mind here?

weebee:
And for those guys that went to canaanland , stole and killed innocent souls, forget it no sinner will go unpunish!

Including you? Romans 3: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

weebee:
Even when they repent and God forgives, they would still bear the consequence of their sins
Dat thief on the cross actuallly repented and Jesus forgave him but he still paid with his dear life
Where is the fear of God?

Hopefully you are preparing to bear the consequences of your sins with your life?

weebee:
And those of you who claimed that churches should not have this or that as if the land and the fullness thereof
does not belong to God.

Maybe Jesus Christ could not remember this verse Himself . . . Luke 9: 58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

weebee:
If every good thing of life belongs to our father and we can't enjoy those things are we not bastards? Since we are not bastards but children of God the commander of the whole unverse then
we have 100% right to enjoy those things. Why should I leave my inheritance for the people of the world
Please don't blame the church we deserve it all

Certainly ma! Please do not consider going in the rapture . . . u shl dnot leave your "inheritance" for the people of the world.

Make una see wetin Ashaby write:

HI NLANDERS,
I was in church i.e canaanland y'day, and believe u me. Bishop Oyedepo did what was contrary to everyone's expectation. He just declared a praise galore saying the devil is a liar. What with the recent pronoucement in the Guiness book of World records that winners chapel is the biggest church building in the whole wide world.

So my advice is this, stop criticizing any and every one. DO SOMETHING TO PUT THE NAME OF UR COUNTRY ON EAGLES WINGS. CIAO

LMAO! Is this why Christ called us to Himself? Is this why He died on the cross of calvalry? That we may enter the guiness book of records?

Luke 10: 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

omoashion:
When some kids taunted elijah in d bible, what did he do? He cursed them and a bear came out and ate them, Don't mess with a man of God. He has done it before for people who stole during shiloh and some of the stories were sad, The thief in the bible showed remorse. These guys didn't so whatever happens to them was caused by them, My guy sha no go mess wit man of God make im curse u because it's irreversible, Plain Advice OOOO ABEG NO TRY AM I KNO WHAT AM SAYIN

nonsense. Please the man of God is NOT God, enough of this elevating a mere mortal to the position of one who is able to have power over life and death.
I don't see anyone say "don't mess with God" . . . its all about the "man of God" . . . that my brother is idol worship in its purest form.

Elisha cursed those children . . . please show me where else another "man of God" went about cursing.
Christ was flogged, spat upon, slapped and humiliated . . . please show me where he cursed them all to die within 7 days.
Paul was flogged several times . . . show me where he cursed them.
If Paul and Silas had cursed their jailor they would not have had the opportunity to minister to him and his family.

You say the thief on the cross showed remorse . . . all well and good . . . but did WE (sinners) show any remorse before Christ came to bleed on the cross for our sins?

No where in the bible are we told that the curses of a man of God are irreversible . . . that is plain nonsense neither do you know what u are saying. Only God's words are irreversible!

omoashion:
Those guys don't know what they just did, they should have taken que from the last set of robbers that went there, Papa said they were all going to die within 7 days and it happened as said, Well i don't know if he has said anything concerning these ones but I'm too sure that their end will be in the next couple of weeks, too bad for them, next time them no go go God land go try thief,

yet more extra-biblical nonsense. Since when did "papa" assume the throne of God to be able to pronounce curses at whoever he likes?

Do you remember the thief on the cross?

while WE were yet sinners Christ died for the ungodly . . . what if Christ had just cursed us to die within 7 days?

A_K_O:
However, some of these adversities were deliberately allowed by God to teach them certain lessons; certain things can't be done the easy way eg if Paul was self reliant and always comfortabe, he probably would not have appreciated and penned down Phil 4:19, my God SHALL supply all my needs,

Do those "needs" only start and end with money?

youngies:
David I think it is your style of writting that some people don't find comfortable with. You always hit it so hard with humour.

my brother, i dont know how else to make people open their eyes and READ THE BIBLE instead of swallowing everything "papa" says hook, line and sinker.

A_K_O:
4Him you mentioned something about God's prosperity not being measured by money. Let me hust share my own perspective.

There is prosperity from God that is material. Definately. Cant remember exactly where, but somewhere in the NT, Jesus says that you (us men) being evil, when our children ask for bread we wont give them stone or when they ask for fish we wont give them serpent, that how much more shall our heavenly Father give good things to them that ask.
You will agree with me that fish and bread are material things, so we could conclude that the good things Jesus mentions border around material things; how much more shall God give 'fish' and 'bread' to them that ask,

A_K_O this is the same extra-biblical twaddle that i will continually speak against. Not everything in the bible can and shld be twisted to read pecuniary blessings. Fish and Bread in the verse you quoted shld not be read literarily if not will God give us only Sardines and Agege Bread when we pray?

What really are "good things"? Are spiritual growth, more selflessness, increased Zeal to preach the word, more annointing . . . not "good things" because they dont necessarily translate to material "blessings"?

Look at this interesting verse: James 4: 3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

What does it mean to ask amiss?

Look at this one too - 1 John 5: 14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

What does it mean to "ask according to His will"? Do we know His will?

Pls think on these things.

A_K_O:
@4Him,
Are you advocating that christians/pastors/churches live poor? I hope not. If a church prospers so much that it can build an empire like Canaanland, i think it's only envy that will not rejoice with them. I think so.

I will not write much but i will suggest you read JAZES' post, it beautifully encapsulates my own feelings. though long i would enjoin you to seek for the answers you want there.

skyope:
what the robbers did is quite small compared with what our politicians do daily. but funny thing is they seat in front in our churches. and have easier assess to our pastors. and yes, they have their children in covenant university.

Mr. Skyope . . . if not that i'm at work i almost wanted to give u a standing ovation for bringing out this oh so uncomfortable truth! Like i said earlier . . . can you imagine King Herod sitting in the front row during Apostle Paul's ministry?

Alphazee:
Like I've always said, I won't be dragged into personal attacks . I have nothing to discuss. I only STUMBLED on those Holy verses from the Holy Book. Shike nan!

you just seem to be stumbling a lot lately isnt it? Just wondering how most of ur "stumbles" happen to be from plagiarised websites rather than thru your dilligent search of the holy bible.

Logical:
@imhotep
Quite a valid argument now but not strong because most of the writers of the bible never met Jesus.

John in the early-mid 2nd century.
Mark, the earliest of the gospels, is dated to 70 AD.
Liberal scholars date John (the latest of the gospels) to 125 AD

And yes, with the standards you put we can't trust either. Muhammed or the writers.

that's false. John was a disciple of Jesus Christ (John the beloved)
Mark worked with Paul the Apostle so he could not have been writing the gospel in AD 70 . . . the same period Jerusalem was being destroyed.

Tchad is french for Chad.

+osisi:
I am devastated.

grab a hanky . . . get over yourself!
Go giants!! 

oldie:
My question really, is: what have our leaders done with all the monies allocated to Niger Delta in all these years
We should start asking questions, instead of buck passing

and what have our leaders done with all the monies allocated to the non-Niger Delta in all these yrs? Its not like everywhere else is eldorado afterall.

we lost kukuruku!

Debosky . . . may i ask what business of yours it is if the Niger Delta leaders mismanage their resources?
Have other "leaders" managed those resources any better?

Babangida alone is responsible for the loss of over $12bn oil windfall, yet some on this same land are clamouring for him to be president.
Pls we have NO moral rights to ask the Niger Delta leaders to be financially prudent . . . at least they can afford to waste money that is theirs . . . it is a shame that we are busy squandering resources that we stole!

Ono your pain is felt. Nigeria is running a most absurd "federal" system of government.

hotfunmi:
Question:
What is the factor that makes you guys desire to marry? Do you feel it or do you just do it because your peers are doing it or is it because you want to raise a family?

i'll be honest here, for me the reasons are:
1. Peer pressure . . . its hard to see most of your mates settling down into stable relationships/marriage and remain nonchallant.
2. At a stage playing around loses its appeal.
3. Kids! Kids! Kids! Just to hear a tiny tot call you dad can be the best feeling in the world.
4. Face it, behind all successful men is a woman with a good head on her shoulders.

if its true that ginger1 is 19 then i'd say u have no business smelling anything; rats, eagles or elephants.

alhaji, you make me laugh.

jaylinaa:
God's prosperity is working in Winner's chapel.

Thanks jaylinaa for making this discourse more about issues than a deliberate attack on my person unlike "christians" such as joshjosh.

I have one question: do you understand what God's idea of prosperity is?
Is prosperity measured in terms of money? should we then conclude that "God's prosperity" is also working at Microsoft?

babs787:
@focused


Before you confuse yourself further, was Jesus a christian and was he given a gospel or four gospels?

Are the gospellers really eye witnesses?

unfocused blabs: The term "christian" is simply a description of the ancient apostles meaning - "like Christ".
Jesus Christ never claimed to bring any gospels but Himself as a Sacrifice for sin.
Matthew was one of the 12 disciples ditto for John.

babs787:
What do you understand by 'all nations' and you should be aware that we have 'all the nations' in some versions.

Does 'all the nations' mean all the world? Proof please

Acts 1: 6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

Clearly Christ makes a difference between Jerusalem, ALL Judea, ALL Samaria (all 3 were ancient jewish lands) AND unto the uttermost parts of the earth.

see nigerians weeping their eyes out! Wake up, we were never good enough! We could only manage two goals from open play against Benin!  

why are u pple crying? Did you think u would win?  

you cant force her . . . that is why you cannot rule out the role of family altars in a home.
Do you read the bible and pray with ur kids? Do you show them a good example of a christian mother?

As parents you are meant to be an epistle to ur kids, most times they wont understand certain biblical concepts unless they can see it in their parents. The best you can do is go on ur knees for her.

finally the torment is over.

joshjosh:
mercy and love are christian virtues

yeah i know, i'm just glad you did not pretend to possess those.

@ jaylinaa . . . there has been a whole lot of confusion, misrepresentation and deliberate skewing of my statements to say what i never meant.
I am not against having a bank for convenience purposes.

My point is simple: Quite unlike the ministry of Christ and the early apostles . . . why have our churches today become estates and business empires?

olabowale:
@4Him: Liar! Your entire response, just like the action of paul was build on a sham, a charade, a lie.

where is the lie? It is just not enough to shout.

olabowale:
It was mentioned that when Fir`awn killed so many of the males of the Children of Israel, the Copts were scared that the Children of Israel would die out

Sir Copts or Coptic christians are native Egyptian christians.
Christ was not born until 2000yrs after Moses . . . how could the Copts have existed then?

This allah sef!

Logical you have absolutely said nought but parrot the same arab propaganda we have been hearing for decades. I discuss with facts, all you do is talk on and on about nothing. Blowing hot air while pretending to know what u are saying no longer cuts it.

Logical:
@4him
I don't even know where to begin on re-education on the history regarding this matter. Its apparent that you really don't know what you are talking about. So far I have seen nothing but assumptions and deviation from facts. Just sentiments, If you are ready to argue based on facts, I would be more than happy to discuss, Until then I hereby rest my case.

you had no case to begin with.

Logical:
This are the statements you made, and I raise it because of other readers, for them to understand your views and personal sentiments and assumptions.
Not recognizing the UN, international law and using irrelevant questions to argue without taking facts into consideration.

what UN and international laws? The same old twaddle the arabs have been using as a smokescreen against Isreal? Do those UN laws include the demand that the arabs recognise Isreal's right to exist? Have they complied with it?

Logical:
Living in illusion or rather making an assumption without tangible facts, but sentiments yet again. Or perhaps you just visited Earth, I am confused here.

you're the one living in a bubble. I raised specific facts, all you did was mumble as usual.

Logical:
Not recognizing millions of Palestinians victims, I guess you might as well declare them as collateral damage. Do you have a conscience? Please don't say this aloud in public.

Give me a break pls! Isreal does not recognise millions of palestinians and YET they supply Gaza with over 70% of its power, they supply them with water, provide gas? How else do u recognise someone? By letting him kill you?

On the flip side the same palestinians demanding electricity do NOT recognise Isreal as a nation.

I am sick of hypocrites pls.

i no dey watch again.

yakhongo scores a goal!