₦airaland Forum

ayshacom:
Beverly, blacks are lazy but they built America by working hard in plantation camps? They are denied opportunities that's why you see them doing all kind of useless jobs. They are sold as slaves but the white master needed to treat them like human beings then, all this problems would have been easy.

Slavery ended since the 1800s, racial and systematic oppression took over until the 1970s when everyone basically had protected rights, by the 1990s blacks started moving into the Hamptons and other luxurious places, by the 2000s we had more white people on welfare and foods stamps than blacks.

So if you're saying the system is only unfair to blacks, what would you say to the white crackhead living in section 8? What would you say to the white teenager that can't get into a good school because there's no money. I know it is easy to see things from one side but if you can just try and open your mind to both sides of the issue, you'll know that in this 21st century, the failures of blacks has more to do with mindset than any other thing. I've lived in the USA for over a decade, I see as my black brothers and sisters continue to waste their lives, I see how they would rather spend their income tax return on Nike's and gold chains than bonds/stocks. I see that if you give a black man/woman $10,000, he or she would be broke in 6 months. Sometimes the real enemy of the black man is the black man himself!

Smartypant:
Look, I know that you guys enjoy licking Trumps stinking ass simply because of RELIGION, but the rest of the world knows that in the US , the Police will kill you in a jiffy for any slight offence. That's why you have protests in London, Berlin, Milan, Dublin and so many more. If you don't know that by now, sorry I can't help you. It's only the brainwashed Nigerian religious ZOMBIES that are still supporting TRAMP. Even many Republicans are now lining up against him.

Informative and educational links for you-

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/george-w-bush-calls-george-230818452.html
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/australian-camera-crew-attacked-police-100253005.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-floyd-racism-protests-193534241.html
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/german-foreign-minister-trump-is-pouring-oil-on-the-fire-with-threat-to-deploy-us-military-103722548.html
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-tennis-star-still-shaken-encounter-cop-15-200857622--ten.html
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article243193666.html

BTW, is Duterte and Trump not in the same camp of DELUSIONAL NARCISSISTIC LEADERS?

BYE BYE

Just a quick question since you know so much: Under which president was Trayvon Martin killed? Under which president did the Baltimatore protest occur? Many people like you think this issue is black and white but it is not, Trump has little to do with this, systematic racism is in the very root of the nation and if a black president could not solve it for 8 f*cking years, what makes you think a white president SHOULD do better?

In criticism/analysis if one cannot be objective then one might as well be quiet!

Blackmann001:
What did he say when jeniffer ND Co died....

He noti ex the very big attention this Uwa I'd receiving ND he is cashing in on it....

Didn't ppl die in katsina..? ND mny other places... Evn a single comment on naijas biggest head ache coro, ein no talk... But now pursuing a course to launder his very bad public image

So you expect him to speak on every issue going on in 9ja even tho he does not hold any political office? What did you do about the situations you mentioned above? Did you hold a banner and walk on the streets? Or are you just another keyboard warrior?

Blackmann001:
... This guy tinubu is really a strategist.... He is working again on the gullible, who will ail him as a Democrat...

He is exactly d problem with Nigeria... Democrats to the press ND anti Democrat in action...

Devil!

If he kept quiet, you would also say he does not care, so really he can't win with people like you

Anazp:
Why do Nigerian youths like to celebrate their oppressors? I mean in a sane Country this man would have been in jail

Name a sane country and I'll show you some dubious politicians never convicted never faced a trial.

Guestlander:
Since you only can read slowly, now tell us who are killed the most by the police? I am going by the same statistics you provided.

I'm sure even if you can't read slowly, you can definitely see or are you blind as well? A 4 year old can read the chart and see who gets killed more, so I'm sorry if you're too intellectually inept to figure it out!

Once again, read the damn diagram nigga and stop wasting my time!

omonnakoda:
Tyson is not ranked alltime top by any of those who know about boxing that speaks volumes
The Ring Magazine is the most authoritative publication and lists Joe Louis as second only to,Ali so he should be mentioned. Also his record of the MOST TITLE DEFENCES still stands so he cannot be ignored

You keep shifting the goalposts and have told a number of falsehoods here.

When exactly was this "Prime" ?

The fact is those Heavyweights of a similar age to him like Lewis destroyed him
His prime was marked by beating has beens like Holmes, long past their own prime, Bonecrusher Smith ,Trevor Berbick
Did he beat anyone that went on to achieve anything significant afterwards during this so called prime?
Who was his biggest scalp?

Top is subjective, he is top 3 in my books but for you he might not make top 100. My point reemains in his prime he was not a boxer but a dismantler, he was a killer! Every other thing you argue about is subjective and I can't fault you for that, like I said earlier I'm not wasting anymore energy on you!

Guestlander:
Your list doesn't distinguish between unarmed people and people shot dead while committing a serious crime. If you look at the ratio as well in terms of the population of black and whites you can still clearly see that more black people are killed by the police than whites.

The screeshot is from the link you posted, does it this mean anything to you?

Do you see why I said you should read slowly? See attachment!

You are so quick to look for a win that you miss a lot of facts! Just slow down little one, read enlighten yourself, you'll get it sooner or later!

Guestlander:
Absolutely, because only a fool will generalize and lump together all police killings, making it seem like unarmed people killed by the police is the same as the people shot dead in the cause of a crime like robbery or while shooting up a mall.

Do you see the link that I posted, if you are brave enough subscribe to their premium service and you'll have access to all that information. If you're too poor to subscribe here's another link, this time read slowly.

https://thesocietypages.org/toolbox/police-killing-of-blacks/

TO BE TRULY ENLIGHTENED, TALK LESS & EDUCATE YOURSELF MORE!

omonnakoda:
Spinks did not distinguish himself as a Heavyweight he was essentially a light heavyweight.
Ken Norton defeated Ali and Cooney was a well regarded fighter but those are not the only people I mentioned so you are being dishonest
Joe Fraxier was a Hall of Famer. Foreman made him look like a chump TWICE.

At the time Foreman beat Cooney he was in his 40s
He also knocked out Moorer in his Forties to become oldest champion in history

Holmes was a greater fighter than Tyson with a more stellar career but when they met Holmes was finished.

You were the one that brought up Joe Louis, I only exposed your tactics against you, you can't say a fighter was not great just because you don't respect the fighters he or she fought against. Whether it is Foreman or Frazier, none of these fighters compared to Tyson in his prime, we can disagree to agree. Moving on, Spinks a light heavyweight? . When I called Holyfield a cursierweight you claimed he was an heavyweight, dude I'm done, you're basically full of shit. It's like we are playing by your own made up rules now and quite frankly it's draining my energy.....Shalom!

omonnakoda:
You talk a lot of crap

After losing to Douglas
Tyson fought twice in 1990.

The simple truth is mentally Tyson was weak, he was a quitter when he came up against good fighters

Yea I'll give you that, mentally he was weak and allowed himself to be controlled but Spinks and Holmes were not weak compeitors, if you can praise Forman for defeating Ken Norton, Gerry Cooney, why disregard Tyson for defeating Spinks? Like I said earlier you're defeating your own argument.

omonnakoda:
Who were those people he dismantled

If you are looking for a dismantler look no further than George Foreman l

Look at what he did to Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Gerry Cooney


Yes I mention Joe Louis regarded by many as the greatest Heavyweight champion ever and by others as second to Ali

Check his record

Longevity is important in these sorts of generational comparison

Can you name Joe Louis top 10 fights? You'll be surprised most of those guys were weaker than Andy Ruiz. My point remains, you can't claim Tyson fought nobody or weak opponents and then use Joe Louis as your alternative, that just defeats your argument.

omonnakoda:
Vague attempt at criticism?
How did you close that comment ?

You wrote

YOU KNOW NOTHING in capitals for remarks that were wrong

Mike Tyson defended his title 9 times and at 23 you are telling us he was past his best as a Heavyweight champion?
Compare him with Joe Louis who defended 24 or 25 times and you would understand why some of us refuse to count him as a GREAT

The fact that you think longeviety is the same thing as powerful is ridiculous. You claimed Tyson didn't fight anyone of importance and now you mention Joe Louis, it's almost as if you are talking with both sides of your mouth. I have never disputed that Tyson's prime was short, it was only 3 or 4 years but in those years he didn't beat boxers, he dismantled them. For him not to be in top 10 of all time is plain RIDICULOUS, you don't have to agree with me, this is the beauty of a civil discourse, we can agree to disagree FAM!

omonnakoda:
Guy

You have changed your tune and clearly you are just arguing blindly

First you said






Those are your words

Tyson went to Prison in 1991 by which time Holyfield was already Heavyweight champion

Admit you were WRONG

Didn't you read where I said you were right? Perhaps in your vague attempt at criticism you lost your eyesight

omonnakoda:
Holyfield was number one contender he ducked him to fight Buster Douglas
Exactly how many title defences and how long did this "prime" last? 9 defences ,2 years
Please don't call me Nigga

Buster Douglas match was a cash grab just like Joshua being outboxed by the fatman. It was a ploy by Don King, nothing more. Holyfield was not a number one contender before Douglas. Holyfield just moved up a weight calss and needed to 2 or 3 fights before Tyson, Douglas was the number one contender in 89 and carried it on into 90.

omonnakoda:
That is not the point the point is to correct the rubbish you wrote earlier.




Holyfield was the number 1 contender in 1990 when Tyson fought Buster Douglas Jnr instead

THAT SAME YEAR

He was not a cruiserweight at the time as you falsely claimed .

Tyson ducked him to fight Buster Douglas and then ended up in prison

It is not true as you claim that Holyfield became a Heavyweight AFTER Tyson went to prison

He was the World champion before Tyson went to prison having recovered the belts Tyson lost in Japan

Yea you're right, he actually started his heavyweight career in late 89 but still he couldn't face Tyson because Tyson was on a downward spiral. Tyson was not in fighting condition in 1990, his troubles already started hence the reason Buster Douglas and Holyfield fought for the title instead of a rematch with Tyson as stipulated in his fighting contract. Either way you look at it, Tyson was not in his prime in 90, he was a dead man walking thanks to Don King. The prison sentence in 91 just cemented his fate.

omonnakoda:
Who did the real Iron Mike Tyson beat ?
He never fought Oliver McCall,Michael Moorer or Riddick Bowe

Were these guys number 1 contenders during his prime? NO! He fought the best, the only person you can accuse him of ducking was Holyfield. From 1986 to 1990, he fought the best his weight class had to offer. For someone that claims to know howw boxing works, you sure don't sound like it? How can he fight Bowe when he was in prison? McCall? Really? McCall that was Tyson's sparring partner and was promoted by the same promoter Don King? McCall that didn't come into the limelight till Tyson was in jail, that McCall? Nigga you a joke!

omonnakoda:
you won't get off so cheaply did Holyfield become World Heavyweight champion in 1990 yes or no?

Yes he did by beating a Buster Douglas that was 70 lbs overweight.

omonnakoda:
How old are you kid?Why did Tyson duck Holyfield to fight Buster Douglas?
The next fight Douglas fought after beating Tyson was against Holyfield who knocked him out in Round 3 the same year.
You better keep quiet. Those of us who stayed up all night to watch ALL Tyson's fights will educate you about boxing

LMAO....You know nothing!

omonnakoda:
Holyfield was Number one heavyweight contender in 1990 , Tyson ducked him to fight Buster Douglas

In 1990, Tyson's prime was already over, drug use, uncontrollable rage and so on. The Buster Douglas match was fixed for him by Don King so that he could make money, it was never about actual boxing. By 1991 Tyson had gone full kolomental and landed himself in prison, that was the end of the real Iron Mike Tyson.

tarantino1:
Buster Douglas beat him senseless in his prime. I don't think anybody would say a 26 years old boxer isn't in his prime.


Tyson was good yes, but against bigger men who were not scared of him, who knew how to box properly and to use their reach advantage against him, he was schooled.
He tried sha being only 5'10. He was good but he wasn't even the best in his generation

Buster Douglas match was fixed by Don King, Tyson's promoter. We all know that, afterwards Tyson couldn't take that he had betrayed himself and basically had a mental breakdown, he was never the same again!

Guestlander:
Police doesn't kill more whites than blacks in the US sir. Lying doesn't win arguments.

I don't argue with fools, check the stats:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

adegunahmed:
Tyson cannot defeat George Foreman in is prime...when you talk a killer,,,it should be the prime Big George....

Muhammed Ali survive George Foreman after 3 and half years in exile (prison inclusive), he dismantle George even when everyone counted him out,, a big underdog for the big powerful Goerge.........

In Ali's prime age 22,,, Nobody could possibly beat him,,,he was always unscratched,,,

The man that punch like an Heavyweight and float like a Welterweight.....

BTW. The list is incomplete without the lengendary sugar Ray Leonard and Robinson.....and this generation lengend Lennooooox Lewiiiiiiis ���....

Tyson never beat any Great at their prime only old fellas like Larry homes and Micheal spinks who retired after....

In boxing, you can only fight who is presented to you. In Tyson's prime he fought the best the competition had to offer but no other boxer in history dismantled opponents like he did, 89 seconds, 5 seconds? Youngest hevyweight champ in history. Spinks an old man? He was 31-0 when he faced Tyson, it's like saying half of Mayweather's victories don't count because the competion was amateurish....lol.

Foreman was great but people still went the distance with him in his prime, in Tyson's prime, no one made it past the 5th round, no one! If not for the greed of money and a mental illness he could have had the best reign in history but I do agree with you, Ali takes the number 1 spot....Muhammad was simply magnificient!

omonnakoda:
Larry Holmes was old ,a FORMER champion on a COMEBACK trail.

Question is why he never fought Lennox Lewis,Holyfield, Riddick Bowe, Michael Moorer, Oliver McCall in that period you mention

Why was he fighting Buster Douglas Jnr instead of Holyfield?
Tyson was good but he was also a cash cow for Don King used to scam the public. He avoided fights with key people of similar age to himself before going to prison

Mehn you really don't know how boxing works do you? You fight the number 1 contender and some scrubs. Holyfield's prime was before Tyson's prime so how could they face each other? Holyfield was a cruiserweight champion while Tyson fought as heavyweight, how could they meet? It was not until after Tyson went to prison and Holyfield added some weight that they both were in the same class. DO YOU SEE NOW THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING?

ednut1:
and who exactly did he beat I see old washed up fighters. Many were scared before entering the ring. When he faced top notch opposition he has no answer

Were you even alive in 86-91? Anyways he faced the best competition at his time, he knocked out a 31-0 champion named Spinx who was the toughest fighter at that time; youngest heavyweight champion in history, he knocked out Larry Holmes who defeated Muhammad Ali. Know your history son!

ednut1:
mike tyson is no where near the top ten heavyweights. One dimensional, no plan b, never got off the floor to win. Was beaten black and blue by prime fit fighters. Holyfied and lewis battered him like a kid

Joker! None of those boxers could beat him in his prime, prime Tyson knocked people out in the first round. Tyson in his prime was 1986-1991, he was the baddest mudafudger to ever walk the ring, this nigga didn't box, he killed!

hardbody:
I am so quaking with fear..m.o.ron.

Floyd had better statistics incase you dont know. I will crumple you.

You ain't no cop, you ain't even a G and I doubt you ever fired a glock or a shotgun before so I don't get the comparison with Floyd. You just another nobody hiding behind a keyword....Lil boy

hardbody:
To slam you just dey hungry me.

Go and slam your father, I'm 6ft 3, 260 lbs and a former boxer, I'll crush you with one hand lil boy

jaysmama:
Normal occurrence or not. That cop did what he did in the full glare of the public and on camera. He has been a cop for 18 years do you know what he has been doing when no one is watching? Look forget all this celebs you are talking about if proper action is not taken and sanctions applied. It's only a matter of time before it comes knocking at your door. No black person rich or poor is immune. All that is being asked is for laws and actions to be applied the same across all races. When you want to argue and get your point across say it like it is and leave out the name calling. The word ridiculous has no context here

He was fired and arrested already, he is being charged with murder, what else can be done legally? Were you outraged when a white cop killed a white or latino person? Believe me, cops kill more whites in the USA than blacks even tho blacks commit 50% of the violent crimes in the USA. Think about it, 13% of the population commits 50% of the cviolent crimes yet MORE WHITE PEOPLE are killed by cops.

No one is saying racism or police brutality does not exist but to make it seem like all black lives are in danger is pure bullshit, we don't have to agree, we can always agree to disagree!

jaysmama:
Since you are a black man in America you should know your being a successful black nigga counts for nothing if you can be pulled over and suffocated live on camera.

That's just the problem tho, everyone acting like this is a normal occurrence. How come Jayz, Puffy, Jordan, Lebron, any of my family members, any of my 2,000 plus friends living in America has never been through such? The black race in America represents 13% of the population, are you saying being pulled over by cops, killed/ injured only happens to black folks? Don't be ridiculous!

AllenSpencer:
I have bookmarked your name. You owe me an apology.

Just don't generate another flimsy excuses by then.

I know it's difficult making constructive criticism with Trump supporters.

Till then...

Constructive criticism is pointing out the good things he did and bashing him on the bad things. Constructive criticism is being objective rather than a mole for the opposition...Lol.....We'll talk again in November

AllenSpencer:
Obama in a bunker? Sigh...

You forgot to put into into consideration that Obama brought the US out of a recession and succesfully piloted the USA for 8 good years. And never was a time when America got this bad.The economy ascended all through and even in dips, it didnt nose-dive. And you forgot Obama also faced a pandemic which he allowed experts to "SOLELY" take charge of and make independent recommendations. Mitigation plans against the next pandemic was done during this time which your Trump disbanded.

On Oct. 15, 2014, Trump tweeted that “President Obama has a personal responsibility to visit & embrace all people in the US who contract Ebola!”

On Oct. 23, 2014, he kept ramping it up: “If this doctor, who so recklessly flew into New York from West Africa, has Ebola, then Obama should apologize to the American people & resign!” What utmost hypocrisy.

Oh! We blame a China for a virus we got intel about and caved-in at first hit. Now I see you are a true Trump supporter. Always shying away from responsibilities.

Trump is out already... Its already sealed. [s]He has attacked and lost base with majority of blacks, hispanics and Asians in one way or the other which will spell his doom.
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Trump is gone! I will save your name and demand a congratulatory message when Biden wins

More gibberish.....How can Trump lose what he never had? His base is stronger than ever, his first year of presidency his approval rating was lower than 30% now it is almost 40%, ARE YOU SURE TRUMP IS losing his CHARM?

You think politics is 1+1=2, betetr know that 1+1 can equal 3 or even 0, keep reading CNN they love to use polls and charts only to end up on election night looking like the FOOLS they are. Biden of all people defeat Trump......Jokers!