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You for post an entire book, HABA, all these copy and paste folks.

07kjb:
The Nigerian youths brain have been bastardised, everybody is shouting go and learn a skill which they borrowed from our useless leaders.....has it occur to you guys that Nigeria has the highest self employed population in the world yet we are the poorverty capital in the world


Why won't government employ it's own quota,they don't create job, even in the USA today they are still creating millions of job even for immigrants


A government is a circle of public employment, private employment,indirect employment, unskilled then self employed you tax...... shouting there's no job up and down is a lie from the pit of hell.


Finally Africans are naturally dull you can't hold your leaders accountable is a shame

Note: I'm not discouraging not learning any skill, I'm just stating how it ought to be

Guy you're funny, how did you come about your statistics? There are more self employed people in China and India than Nigeria. There are more poor people in India than Nigeria, they call Nigeria poverty capital of the world not because of quantity but because of the amount of resources Nigeria has compared to its relative lack of development. Yes our government is useless but no dey bring false stats to make your point valid. Those saying acquire skills are saying so because there is no hope in the government, the wise acquire skills to hedge against unemployment or under employment. Those with a functioning brain know it is not the job of the government to create jobs rather they make the environment ripe and healthy for private and public sectors to work together towards growth which automatically creates jobs. IF GOVERNMENT NO READY TO DO ITS PART, YOU WAN FORCE DEM? Even if you get balls, how you wan convince the traders, the herders, the ones not on social media to vote the right government in? You stated how it ought to be but reality no dey work like that, everybody got to do what's best for him or her!

JovialJune:
As expected, they run away when backed in a corner with questions they know they cant answer without insulting themselves, sad lots.

There was no insult, I just referred you to the right person afterall I'm not the one that made the post, I just answered your question of "WHAT IS THE POINT?" . Remove emotions from the argument and you'll see that I've actually saved you time and energy......Don't be an ingrate!

JovialJune:
And so what if they are seen as fools? Is it only women that condemn polygamy? Even some guys here condemn polygamy and see them as fools, so what exactly is your point? The daughter said she can't be like her mom, is it compulsory for her to be like her mom

I'm not here to argue like school children, you were the one that asked what's the point of the post and I gave you the answer. You can follow up with the author if you're hungry for an argument....PEACE!

JovialJune:
Who called them fools Or who is looking down upon them?

Your gender. Majority of your gender cosnider such women as fools even the pikin said she can never be like her mom.

JovialJune:
And so? Is it mandatory for all woman to accept nonsense because some do? Or what exactly is the point of this thread

The point is when you see other women accepting what you cannot, do not automatically look down upon them and call them fools. We all can't reason the same way!

wirinet:
Give me examples.

Please search on Google for many many examples. Here are some examples of airlines refusing service for what they considered offensive:

https://mustreadalaska.com/woman-says-she-was-removed-from-alaska-airlines-jet-for-wearing-a-trump-mask/
https://nypost.com/2022/02/17/man-booted-from-allegiant-flight-for-lets-go-brandon-mask/
https://viewfromthewing.com/watch-delta-kick-this-passenger-off-flight-for-his-offensive-hoodie/

Norwich City, too good for the Championship, too bad for the Premiere League, watch them come right back up within a year or two

wirinet:
As they say in law, you are rebrobating and approbating at the same time. You cannot wear a Nazi or a KKK insignia which offends some people, but you can wear an hijab or dreadlocks which offends others? How are you able to make sense of that.

You cannot be arrested or prosecuted for wearing a Nazi or KKK insignia on your shirt in the US. Lots of people find it offensive, but it is not against constitutional rights and freedom.

Please don't say what you don't know, I am not only talking about criminal liabilities but civil as well. You can be sued for anything in the civil court in the USA. Furthermore we are talking about the right to deny service as a business, the courts have ruled that the contarct of carriage enforced by these airlines are valid as long as they can defend it.

In the court of law, wearing KKK or NAZI attire in an airport or when boarding a plane is not only seen as disturbing the peace but a valid reason to deny service as it is offensive to majority of customers and could result in substantial loss of revenue for the business. U.S laws are very complicated, you have to do your research and look at past cases to grasp the entire picture.

Technically he could be correct by saying it in Yoruba or pidgin. These lawyer folks and their offsprings are very technical people, you can't catch them for corner, slicker than Ronaldinho

Sunmoluvic:
Lol, the first question to ask yourself is why was he dragged off the plane, after reading the whole thing, it was obviously for no reason, you can't even compare that with this one. The airline offered $1k to anyone who could give up there seat for something, no one did, so they decided to pick someone themself which they picked the guy, but the guy refused, so they dragged him out, therefore injuring him.
This is a different situation bro.

This is what the law says:
The First Amendment grants you the right to freedom of speech and expression. So you are generally free to say or wear what you want, regardless of how crass or offensive.

However, while the First Amendment is applicable in the public sphere, it has no application in the private sphere.

Actually you've interpreted the First Amendment incorrectly, you cannot wear a NAZI or KKK attire and they let it slide, however being denied service you paid for based on Hijab, based on your dreadlocks, based on leggings etc is definitely an infringement that can be argued in court. You will find that what we normal people think is reasonable differs from how lawyers and the court interprete things. Remember in law, it is not about what is right or wrong but what can be proven or who can sway the judge or jury the most. Finally, also remmeber as a company worth billions, most of the time they settle out of court if there's any possibility of reputational and/or financial liability.

Sunmoluvic:
Chai, see talk, show me the similar case a abeg, I no get time to dey argue

Google is your friend, just Google man dragged off plane or humiliation airline lawsuit.

anonimi:
You should have provided the link for the UA case.
How much do you plan to contribute to the fees of the popular lawyer?

I don't have time but I'm sure many can search it online, there are more than one instances of denial of service from SouthWest Arilines to American Airlines and I'm not just talking about clothing, it can be anything from being dragged off the plane excessively, denial of service based on weight, looks etc. Furthermore your point of lawyer fee is irrelevant because if it is a winnable case, most lawyers in the USA collect zero fees and will get compensation from the settlement.

1stGenAmerican:
If you knew and understood the First Amendment then you would realize how false your statement is.

Okay why don't you educate me about it? You mean an airline/business can deny you service you paid for just because they do not like the shirt or pants you're wearing? How does this differ from not liking your hairstyle or looks? The only rights not protected are those that constitute hate crime or criminal in nature. Either way there's no point in arguing here, sentiments are cheap, when it gets to court it's another ball game.

Sunmoluvic:
Lol, why.
She'll loose, Airlines Can Kick Passengers Off The Flight For Dress Code, Airlines can make whatever rules they would like as to the type of clothing that you must wear if you want a seat on one of their flights. They are not bound by the same rules as a governmental agency, thesame way a social media can ban you when you go against their terms and conditions

F. Words on your clothing is a no no for many private airline

B.S.......She's going to get paid if she gets a popular lawyer. Fristly the freedom of speech is protected and this includes dressing. The airline would have to prove that her dressing was so outrageous that it constituted discomfort for passengers. A similar case occured with United Airlines about 5 years back and they settled out of court.

Fi Dee Fi.....Fower fo dee feefool......40 million gone just like that

socialmediaman:
These grandparents and family are also living their everyday lives like everyone else, I believe they didn't ask her to break the law and brutalize another person's child whom she employed. All they have to do now is adjust their lives to accommodate the consequences of her poor choices, so I don't see why it's their fault in this situation, or are you saying if they abandoned her, it justifies her action?



I know it's wishful thinking for now but that doesn't mean I should support the injustice. What we need is for more people like you to also condemn it so that it can get better with time. If I convince you to condemn it and you convince someone else then maybe someday in 50 years time everybody will be condemning it and the authorities will have no choice but to act differently



But what about the girl who's carrying the scars on her body? Does her life not matter? Will she ever believe in the system? Will she ever have mercy on someone else when she becomes a mother someday, knowing the system will also protect her if she harms another woman's child? What about the other politician who wants to steal money and knows that when he goes to trial, the system will consider his family's welfare over that of the poor children in his community who were supposed to benefit from the money he stole? What about the families that died in auto crash from the bad road which he didn't repair?

You're still missing the point, punishment rather than rehabliation helps nobody in a country like Nigeria. It was you that mentioned that the kids could be given to grandparents, family or neighbors so I asked you if you believe those people who stood by and watched her struggle to feed her kids would willingly take care of her children if she died or was incarcerated, it is a simple question.

Nobody is saying the kids life does not matter, all I'm saying is that we will continue to see more and more of this level of frustrations and over reactions if the governemnt does not step up and improve the economic and social well being of the citizens. All the other stuff you mentioned further solidifies my point.

socialmediaman:
I get your point, and you’re right about the reality of present day Nigeria, but it doesn’t stop us from pushing for reforms. Rome wasn’t built in a day and would’ve never been built if everyone assumed centuries ago that it could never be built.

Kids can be taken care of by their grandparents or foster, or adopted parents or relatives. It’s not perfect and will never be the same as their biological parents, but it’s designed as a remedy for a bad situation like this

Remember, the system owes an obligation to both the girl who was brutalized, and the children of the woman who brutalized the girl. None of these parties are more important than the other in the eyes of the system, that’s what equal justice means (that’s why you see justice portrayed as the lady with a blindfold holding a balance)

Once you start considering the well being of the children over the rights and well-being of the child who was brutalized, you’re already giving way for corruption to enter the system where elites can do whatever they want and be protected

Tell me why would grandparents, family and neighbors watch a woman struggle to feed her kids and do nothing but would gladly accept resposnibility for that child when the woman dies or is incarcerated? You can't reform a system in which you have no rights, who is going to do the reform? Your vote hardly counts, your voice means nothing hence reliability on the government is nothing but wishful thinking.

I can support therapy and counseling but not at the expense of the woman. What the woman needs is help, mental and physical. We need to move away from a society of punishment first, rehabilitation later/never.

Forget about actors, it is very hard for any man surrounded by beautiful women giving him attention and signals to resist. 10-20 years ago, men had to spend money to cheat, nowadays that other gender go spend money on you just for fun, you'll tell them you have a wife and they'll say so? They are not looking for love but fun. I'm afraid what is to come in the next 10-20 years, that gender no longer goes for single men, they want the married ones, afterall, if he can put a woman at home and cater to her for so long, he must be a loving, caring man......COMRADES MAY GOD BE WITH US ALL!

GreatAdvice:
This is an unfortunate situation. But let's not forget that the girl stole her madam's money and used it to buy buns. I feel sorry for the girl for receiving such excessive maltreatment but i'm also happy because I know she will never do such again. Her madam may have changed the trajectory of this young girl, maybe she could've turned out to be a hardened criminal in the future but after such beating she will never commit any crime again. I will advise the the Police to forgive the madam because she's pregnant and the embarrassment she will face from all the press this story is receiving is more than enough punishment.

If your own parents had put a hot knife to your back everytime you lied or did what you were not supposed to do, I'm sure you wouldn't be here typing rubbish.

socialmediaman:
If we are to ensure that the fundamental human right of the girl is protected, that woman should be made to pay for every penny spent on treating this girl plus therapy, and she should spent some time in jail or a holding facility after she delivers her baby, plus a mandatory psychological evaluation and therapy.

Her children should be interviewed occasionally at random to ensure she doesn’t pose a danger to them as well. You give up absolute control and invite interference into your life from the system when you commit acts like this

But of course we know what happens in our country Nigeria. Justice sometimes is only a fantasy

Yea and what happens to those kids? They become responsibilities of the government, a government that already failed most of its normal duties is being asked to take on additional responsibilities....LMAO! All these human right and therapy talk no dey work for 9ja, even looking at the issue, 100 Naira is such a tiny amount that it shouldn't cause any wahala but in a nation like 9ja, don't be surprised that the 100 Naira might be the last kobo the woman had for the day. Until government does its duties and improve the economic and social well being of its citizens, more and more people will continue to behave like animals.

onadana:
It's her choice,her decision.

Exactly, so who are we to criticize the guy? The person most affected, stand ground gidigba, she say she be mario and she no dey go anywhere but na online warriors dey take panadol for her headache.

onadana:
No one is talking about moral high horse.What about risk women misbehaving....getting pregnant while still married to someone else and seeking redemption. How about that bro.

All join, there's nothing new under the sun! Koko be say if you can forgive, forgive and if you cannot then move on. If what the man did was so terrible, why is she staying? If we are saying he's not redeemable, why stay with him?

subsidywise18:
At the end of the day, the man betrayed his wife. He knows it, the person defending him here knows it, they know it is wrong...

But hey, 99% of men do it...and that makes it right.

If 99% of men also decided to jump off a cliff at 9 am on the 5th of May 2041, that makes it right for you too......

Wonder why people can't respect the sancitiy of marriage.

Anyways, last comment on this matter. If you are siding with Yul, and you then go on to call your significant other a betrayer when he or she does like Yul did, yer a hypocrite. As for me, I am not going to keep a side chick. Not even if 99 percent of men did. Make them call me simp. I no send. I will not betray my wife or children. I will not sin against God.

I don't think anyone said it was right, the problem be say some of those criticizing him are committing the same or worse sin only difference be say them dey tell side chic to abort or use plan B.

How will they not? Keep telling una the one woman one man system brought by those missionaries are noithing but ofutufete. Man's natural desire is to sample as many punna as possible but na only fear of God dey curb those appetites. Sooner or later, man must not live by bread alone, the difference is simple, are you a once in a year/two years adulterer or are you the serial/weekly/monthly adulterer? Just because you haven't been caught don't start believeing you're some type of moral expert, breakfast shall be served to everyone; just wait!

PrinceOfLagos:
Get my point before jumping into what I don't know

Yul edochie married the second wife without his first wife knowledge , that's betrayal

You honestly believe this? Did she know he had another child or not? In some cultures once a woman births a child for you she's automatically your wife. I doubt the first wife was oblivious of the outside child.

onadana:
Real men are not shameless.Real men are loyal to the end.They reason with their brain not their.....dic...k.A MAN without self control is insatiable.

Yet to err is human, to own up to it instead of being a coward is divine. Real men are not perfect, real men do misbehave, real men accept that they've fallen and seek redemption......Get off your moral high horse.

This man is dull, no leader can lead from the sick bed but you supported a Buhari as president not once but twice......Out of all the candidates, this guy is the least credible....Amaechi.....Anywhere belle face

JoyousFurnitire:
Again, if you like give birth to pikin wey you no go fit provide for. Na you sabi. Thank your star if e no mine your skull

You're spewing rubbish.....Once you turn 18, nobody owes you a damn thing, na boot I go use kick you out of my house.....Lazy youth

JoyousFurnitire:
If you like give birth to pikin(s) wey you no go fit provide for. Na you sabi

If you get papa wey dey give you at least 50% of everything you wanted make you dey worship am, you kids of nowadays are spoiled.

JoyousFurnitire:
Could you guys be reasonable for once?

Even the working class go broke and borrow money (some even depend on their partner and partly on their parents) talk more of a student.

In this Nigeria wey we dey?

Y'all don't even know his story and how long he's been hustling (for this world he didn't beg to come?).

Only one person don blame the Papa

I guess y'all already figured everything in ya life.

PS: I don't encourage suicide.

Why would they blame the papa? Can you give what you don't have? Pikin wey go see suicide as the option because of ordinary material things, that pikin should have been aborted or used for sacrifice.....spit!

Udemzy05:
How much Madrid wan pay?

We offer am £200k he no gree for him age ,make h dey go,he don try.

Problem no be the money, we offered am 230k sef, problem be say we no fit renew any contract until new owner is on board and that won't happen till June. If na you be Rudiger, you go risk am?