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gr8tone:
If you read the main post well, you would have discovered that. I bet. I am into betting. I don't mind quiting if can establish that it is a sin. But why I came up with this topic is how some people branded the act as sin. I really want to know from other people's perspective with reference to the Bible whether such claims are true. But you ended up bringing biblical references that doesn't exist. Betting and business are birds of a kind to me. They both deal with predicting possible outcomes. If your predictions turns out positive you gain and it turns otherwise you lose. What would you say of a business man who bought over a hundred bags of ginger at the rate of 20k each and later sold it at the rate of 9k each. How did he sin by predicting the cost of ginger that didn't favour him at the end? I need convincing quotations not your mathematical calculations and personal opinion please.

I just found out you raised this topic. If I knew earlier, we wouldn't be "chatting" now (but it is late now). There were some Bible quotations you said I used dubiously; you should read the whole of 1 Corinthians 6 to know the context which verse 12 was referring to.

1 Corinthians 6:12
Someone will say, "I am allowed to do anything." Yes; but not everything is good for you. I could say that I am allowed to do anything, but I am not going to let anything make me its slave. (Good News Bible)

Someone may say, "I'm allowed to do anything," but not everything is helpful. I'm allowed to do anything, but I won't allow anything to gain control over my life. (God's word Translation)

I have over 64 people under me and that number should increase in 2019. I know those who bet and I know as 1 Corinthians 6 has said, they are not in control of their mind when an opportunity to bet comes - they must bet - they are under the control of betting.

You should do a Christ Inspired study of the Eccles. 6 reference you debunked (forget how people have taught us to accept the "Money answers all things" meaning). You will end up seeing it is a negative verse ascribed to the childish king.

The New Covenant has stricter commandments than the covenant of Moses: love your neighbor and be mindful of his well being and conscience. The Pharisees made the proselyte ten times the son of Satan; Christ wouldn't want any of his children (who thinks he has "mastered" betting) to cause his brother to be destroyed either in faith, finance, health etc.; because he copied the mature brother who seemed to prosper in finance through betting. (I have left out Bible verses so that you may go through the difficultly of searching for the truth which I have stated in this paragraph)

God doesn't want any of his children to suffer loss that is self induced and He has placed several mechanisms to ensure this; chief among them is the sacrifice of Jesus on Calvary. By this sacrifice, you have a reference for gain according to the Spirit and not according to the desire of the flesh. A thief steals because he thinks he doesn't have enough. A gambler gambles because what he has is not enough. But the Bible says, God has clothed us better than the birds and King Solomon; but "I still lack many things", the gambler says. That thought alone is a vote of no confidence in God. If there are three major lusts: The lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life (the lust to show-off), gambling is a manifestation of these lusts and in the end, if the gambler wins, he will definitely show-off his brand new wealth fashioned by his wit.

Gambling is an effect and not a cause. The one who gambles has to workout (exercise) the salvation that Christ has bought for him. Gambling is a sign of weakness. Anyone saved by Christ is free indeed and he must exercise that freedom responsibly - This is what the salvation in Christ is about. Gambling is not a sin, it is the manifestation of the sinful tendencies in the believer - the flesh. You must overcome it and not let it overcome you.

gr8tone:
Sir, God is not mathematics. This Your calculations are your mere assumptions. Besides your Bible references are out of place because I have checked and I discovered that they go contrary to what you claimed except if your own bible is a different Bible. A typical example is Ecc 10:16-17 and 1 cor 6:12. Look, this haphazard copying of Bible references just to manipulate people into believing you doesn't portray you in good light. Deu 4:2 [warn us about adding] New International Version.
Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

Rev 22:19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

So when you say God says where he hasn't said, you are danger of the wrath of God. All you have said is a mathematical attempt to convince or rather confuse yourself.

Good morning. Is it safe for me to think you bet or you support betting (yet you don't bet)? I could learn a lot from you. If you bet (or not), does the seemingly silence of the Bible support you or anyone who bets?

xtivin2:
Thank you for this. I think my statement is clear, betting is no sin, however it's advisable to avoid it because of danger. I equate the case of betting to the drinking of alcohol, it's not a sin but it's better to avoid it because of dangers also because both has high tendencies to become addictive. The disciples casted lots, the jews that crucified Jesus casted lot with Jesus garment. So the issue of gambling is ancient,however Satan has modernized strategies to bring God's children to bandage and it's saddening that gambling is one of Satan core area he is investing time and resources, so it's better as a Christian to avoid it.

The scriptures are not capable of leading anyone into error. I am sorry for a few corrections I am about to give: The Roman soldiers were the ones who cast lots (Matt. 27:35). Who were they, my friend? Pagans. They didn't choose the better portion, eternal life, but chose the meat that perishes. Are those the people you want to emulate?

The disciples cast lots for the empty position left by Judas: When we look at the scriptures, lots were cast where disorder was to be averted - life threatening situations. Look at Nehemiah's and Jonah's situation closely. Were the disciples' lives threatened? No. Did they inquire from God who the next Apostle will be? No. Do you remember the name of the man chosen by them? No. Did you see many months or years later, without their initial ignorance, God chose Saul of Tarsus to fill the empty position. Funny enough, God made that choice in a life threatening situation. Errors are recorded in the scriptures so we can learn from them even the disciples' over-enthusiasm.

The Bible discourages us from many things that will lead to addiction and the destruction of our brother(s)' conscience. Betting is high on this list.

gr8tone:
I have been reading my bible sir but which part have you discovered that condamns betting? I need that portion to be enlighten please. The other things you mentioned are not my problem because they are not my priority.

To understanding betting, you would have to understand the nature of two beings:
1. The nature of God
2. The nature of Man.

The nature of God (Jehovah): From Gen. 1, we see God is systematic and patient, viz., He took everything in the creation process one day at a time. He didn't achieve everything in one day. In Job c.38-40, God showed at the end of everything He made, there was proclamation of praise because His calculations never failed. God showed He saves (like someone saving in the bank). God showed He is accountable. God showed that everything He made tends to increase and there is no waste. At the center of God's heart is love: the resources for the birds in not allocated to the fish. God showed His love for His reputation as well. In Gen. 1, God wants Man to be like Him.

The nature of Man: Man hates God (Romans 6:. Man's heart is wicked to everything even himself (Jer. 17:9). Man worships God manipulatingly (Mal. 3:14). Man is impatient by nature (Num. 21:4, Psa. 37:7). Man wants his desire met by all means (Gal. 5:17). A wicked Man is wasteful when he has money (Eccl. 10:16-19)

What does God say to Man? Whatever you do (including gambling) consider you brother's weak understanding of what you do (gambling) so that he is not led to destruction (sin, poverty etc.) but you prosper in that thing you have chosen to do (Romans 14, 1 Cor. 8:7).
God says you can do anything you like with your life but don't do anything you will be a slave to (1 Cor. 6:12); and don't use your liberty (in Christ) to your detriment and to anyone's detriment (Gal. 5:13).

God goes on to say, He doesn't answer people's prayers focused on satisfying their unloving desires (James 4:3, John 2:24-25). Therefore, He doesn't commit himself to everyone not His own.

What does Man say? Man says he doesn't understand God (1 Cor. 1). God is too slow (Psa. 37:7, 106:13). God is enjoying Himself (and we suffer) and trusting him to provide (on time) is useless (Mal. 3:14). Therefore, Man seeks to gain the whole world (a metaphor for total self-sufficiency).

Betting is a means to self-sufficiency outside God (who is systematic)

xtivin2:
Betting equals casting lot. Definitely not a sin because even the disciples casted lots to replace Judas. However modern day gambling is financial suicide, not for kings.

I am sorry but I think there are contradictions in your comment: you said betting is not a sin but modern day gambling is financial suicide - a sin? When the Bible says, "(the) word of God is yea and Amen, it means the word of God doesn't sit on the fence; it picks a side concerning everything and is unmoved. From your comment, you sound like a Christian but your contradiction is antithetical to the scriptures "yea and Amen" position concerning all things.

Biodun556:
Wel,l we don't have evidence to prove that they sort her consent but we must be mindful when putting anything on social media at least the picture should have been edited to cover her genital.

But look carefully; they are many things you can observe to show that it is a cadaver that was operated on. If the reporter has reported certain things accurately, you wouldn't have felt the doctors were irresponsible.

Hero Honda

Mariangeles:
Quite harsh don't you think ??
From what you just typed, you're no different from those people I must say...

Yes, there are so many insensitive people but there are also many with healthy sane minds who are always ready to help with good advice from their experiences.

You are correct. My words were harsh. I am disappointed mostly when I see that it seems this forum has an objective to polarize people by the front page topics and the contributions to each topic are mostly subjective and uneducated. Maybe less controversial topics and more educative topics that wouldn't make the front pages experience the contributions of sane and polite people.

My regards

peteruuu:
Are you stu*id?

You will die someday. How will it sound to any member of your family that thousands said (due to the manner of your death), "May it never be our portion to die like this man in Jesus Christ's name?"

peteruuu:
This will never be our portion in Jesus Christ name. Amen.

It was their potion in Jesus' name?

Naira land is for erratic, illiterate, tribalistic, and foolish commentators. Nairaland reflects the doom awaiting Nigeria in the future.

Righteousness89:
Bro good night!

I'm not your brother

Righteousness89:
What Manners sir! U have said nothing!

With your exclamation marks one can tell who you are. If you claim to be an esotericist, you would know how you were/are rude.

Righteousness89:
how?

It is not my duty to teach manners.

Righteousness89:
bro u have Not Understood your Bible.....

Before u Read your Bible..... Ask The LORD to give u Understanding of His Word...

I didn't just decide to Put this out..... it came about from some Divine empowerment!

I doubt argue on what I didn't Invent! If u wanna argue , Go argue with GOD

This is a rude response. I'm shocked.

Your write up was not inspired by the Spirit of God

God is not the author of confusion. He does not give any of his children fear, weakness or depression. If you don't know what to do, seek the face of the author of marriage. No advice here will satisfy you. Storms are a part of life. When a storm comes, the right thing is to seek refuge in the strongest place. Naira land isn't that place. Just open your Bible. You will get the answer you need.

benedo:
Dear all,

One funny law has just recently been made in my office to the effect that, all your casual leave will be deducted from your annual leave, now the impression i have gathered about the casual leave issue is that the Nigerian Labour Law states that you are entitled to five days of casual leave exclusive of your leave in a year.

Does anyone out there have an idea of what the law states on what the general standard should be about issues like this, as i would really like to take this up with the overzealous hr in my office always trying to impresss the whiteys with so called "innovation"

Casual leaves don't have allowances assigned to them and you will not be paid the wage assigned to the period of this type of leave.

alBHAGDADI:
Abraham never existed under the law, so his act of paying tithe is not associated with the Law of Moses. To your question, follow Jesus, but remember he never said you shouldn't pay tithe neither did he say you should. So, your paying or not should be based on your desire, not on any law; that is exactly what Abraham did because no law obligated him to pay, he simply did out of faith.

Sorry sir for the harsh words I shall say. You feign being neutral but you have taken a side. From your words, the scriptures are not the supreme guide to the actions of men but their feelings. Do you know it is a witchcraft philosophy you unknowingly potray?

Elie Wiesel - We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.

alBHAGDADI:
The war did not happen every month neither is it written that Abraham gave tithe every month. Neither is it also written that he didn't give tithe every month.

When I spoke Abraham giving 100%, I wasn't advising you to do the same. But to say he wasn't blessed because of his works is totally wrong. He was blessed for obeying God by going ahead with sacrificing Isaac. It was because of that work he was blessed by God. But salvation is not of works but by Grace. You must have mixed them for each other.

Please sir, at first you were sitting on the fence now I don't understand where you stand. Let us speak where the scriptures speak,and be silent where the scriptures are silent. Sir, Abraham gave a tithe, not one or two or more. Please make a choice for me: should I follow Abraham, the Law or Christ Jesus? Thanks Sir

alBHAGDADI:
The spoils of war were his. If you fight in a battle and emerge victorious by defeating the enemy, all that belong to the enemy becomes yours, that is what the spoils of war are. Abraham gave 10% as tithe and also gave out the remaining 90%. [b]If you feel you can do the same, fine. [/b]That act is part of why God blessed Abraham so much that were even talking about him today after thousands of years.

Please sir, did the war happen every month of his life? Secondly, I'd like to ask sir, would you like to be judged by not giving 100% of your life savings as tithe? You said I should follow Abraham's 100% remittance because by it you claim God blessed him (are you sure of this? Then you preaches works because Abraham was blessed by grace and not works): do you remit 100% of your earning as tithes? If "No", you will never be blessed according to your doctrine.

alBHAGDADI:
Nice question.

Now, that we see that the Bible doesn't prevent or admonish Christians to pay tithe, shouldn't that tell you anti-tithers to also remain silent as the Bible is silent on the issue? Yet, you people decide to speak where the Bible hasn't spoken. In the process, you end up teaching doctrines of men as commandment of God.

Mathew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Let those who want to pay tithe do so as long as the Bible doesn't teach against it. Mind you, tithing predates the Law because Abraham tithed. And since we are his children, I see nothing wrong in immitating the Good deeds of our father.

Please sir, I would like to ask this: if Abraham only paid tithes of the spoils of war (which he later forfeited 100% of all the spoils) and not his life earnings, what tithe should the children of Abraham pay?

alBHAGDADI:
Where is it written that it is not for Christians?

Psalm 102:18, This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD.

godfatherx:
Meaning pls, I still can't find the meaning of paedolalia

Infantile speech

AutoReportNG:
A picture has been trending online and it shows a man using a broom to dust and clean a Red Carpet (Rug). In this 21st century where we have machines, mows etc that can do this effortlessly. In a Presential Residence, is this acceptable? What happens to the billions budgeted for the maintence of the villa.

So many questions but let me stop here since this is not an Auto related topic

Nigerians, over to you

Credit: Twitter

It's is a fake. The perspective of the sweeper and the picture don't match. There are sprinkles of red colour on the sweepers dress (the same colour with the carpet). His left foot is partly in the carpet. The fabricator of this is misleading people and his act unpatriotic.

Akpacha:
The democrat lost one of their own. A snitch! Failed health hung to power, like MCcain like buhari, power drunk fellas. Anyway my Sympathy goes to his family.

He was a republican not a democrat.

Rafeek1:
I am a Yoruba boy based in Abuja. I graduated my secondary school 2012, wrote my first jamb in 2013 but i score 157 which was very low for any university to accept me as of then (because d cut off mark was 180)

I felt so disappointed in my self so i took another jamb in 2014 it was same 156 i was over disappointed in my self. I den decided to go for poly den (fed poly bauchi) but my mom refused that is too far from abj den. I don't have much knowledge about change of institution and nobody put me through so I went to college of education minna, spending 3yrs and have to wait for another year b4 result will b ready.

To cut d story shut, is diz year that am applying to university while my mates who go university and poly are serving now while some of them are even working. So am advising u guys not to go to collage of education it waste time.

Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my God.
Psalm:43:5

She should exercise in the evenings. She should watch some meals she eats that aggravate this. Reduce water intake at night. Lastly, simple therapy - I have tried this on a young neighbour (11 years old) and it working
(I guess). I bed 'wetted' till my secondary school days. This is what i noticed: If you see the toilet in your dream, wake up. Of course, a reward was attached to his success.

P.S: Don't encourage her to sleep over. Good girls don't sleep over in their boyfriend's house. Her 'wife material' character may be because she has kept herself.

cyndy1000:
Even Ghana isn't there

1 cedi = 75 Naira

FortifiedCity:
Nawa oo

God has always kept and protected me and my family. We are supernaturally excused from sudden and calculated disasters. Glory be to his name forever Amen!!

If he's good to you and your family too, identify by punching the like button

So God was evil to some people's families?

hot1sauce:
all these people talking about ear piece blah this and that.... how can u conclude that's what lead to this man's demise? were u there? and even if he was wearing an earpiece there's nothing to say that whatever he may or may not have been distracted by would have obstructed he awareness to make him to point where he would have failed to be alerted by the presence of a moving train.... I think the bigger issue here is why is it(and I know this train track at Ikeja) that this train track should even be exposed with no barrier in the first place. Is this what needs to happen before the government can implement structures like we have in developed countries to prevent people from getting caught on the railway in the first place- in fact this kind of thing not just for the fact that the pictures r too graphic to be uncensored OP, makes u ashamed to be a Nigerian- I've been in a bus at Yaba/Jibowu side some years back now whilst lodged in non-moving traffic and an oncoming train approaching- I've never seen that kind of panic/hysteria in my life- and it is uncalled for..... that same track I just witnessed a while back has an attendant who comes to clear people away from the site when there is a train in motion at the scene and furthermore there is bell like alarm which is sounded and I'm sure loud enough to alert someone who is virtually deaf talk less of wearing an earpiece. Looking at this is pathetically sad, just seeing people circling the dead body I mean enough is enough- when r we going to get it right

This morning along Ikeja along same place where this man died, a lady was 2 steps away fron being hit by a train. She didn't know the train was coming - she was making a phone call, her receiving hand hindered her vision and the ear which she could have heard the train (it didn't blare its horn as it was slowing down to the Ikeja terminal) and she was wearing shades under the thick cloudy morning. How was she saved? Some one made a run for her, she was distracted and stopped. She could have been lynched by some people. Need I say more? Where this guy died is where some people try to board the train on the roof. Some days ago a guy died I guess, cos he slipped from the roof. Maybe he was sleeping. It happens every week.

Do you have 1 room self contained?