₦airaland Forum

Henry240:
I wanna respond but it feels like a total waste of my time. I'll leave at that and say, let's just agree to disagree.

Let's just say it's more like a PR capacity demonstration than a realistic exercise.

Henry240:
LOL,

What?

That

Henry240:
What

This is a dumb comment.

- The participants were not fitted with Laser Fire Simulators, so we don't know if the troops actually neutralised the terrorists.

- The terrorists should have at least rigged the whole place with mockup IEDs like they'd normally do (Kenyan mall).

- Civilians should have been taken hostage, rigged with explosives and the troops would have to neutralise them before exploding.

- There would have been traps, barricades etc at the airport for the advancing troops.

- There wasn't even enough troops from the helicopter insertion. There should have been at least 2 helicopters landing on different parts of the airport for multiple roof entry for multiple assaults.

These are the few things that should have been in the exercise otherwise it's more like a public PR show than anything else.

Henry240:
Nigerian Air Force Carries Out Counter-Terrorism Exercise in Lagos

-NAF regiment rappel into the airport

-Terrorist armed with Tavors storm MMIA

-Terrorists neutralized by NAF regiment

Of course, it's more like a show than an actual exercise

patches689:
Textron Scorpion

Would be a valid replacement for the Alpha Jet as well.

Then you end up with the Tucano as a light trainer, light-strike platform

Textron Scorpion as a jet trainer, strike platform

and JF-17

Every platform would have multiple roles and usages, which maximizes your capital returns.

Then you throw in the AHRLAC as a cheap recon platform and you call it a day

Unproven platforms would be Henry240's argument.


The AHRLAC is great for COIN and also as a dedicated EW platform to intercept and distrust insurgent coms, IEDs etc .. Just to think about what one can do with the AHRLAC is amazing, I honestly wish we bought a few for the FIB or the Kruger Park.

Henry240:
SAAF capability demonstration

I still wish we bombed Seleka

Henry240:
More Senegalese OPV photos.

Africa's most photographed vessel

giles14:
can it withstand 12.7cal

Mmmh, most modern IFVs can withstand 20mm. The likes of the Rosomak (Patria AMV) withstanding 40mm rocket projectiles.

patches689:
Why the fvck is that tank loaded with Sabot rounds??
Wtf

They get them cheap from the Chinese, I guess

Henry240:
Indonesian Light Strike Vehicle.

That's a cool vehicle.... Pathfinders should get something cool like this.

Henry240:
Gratifying to see NNS Unity arrive home port. Mission accomplished! It's also beautiful that she was escorted into port by 3 locally made vessels. Andoni, Ugwu & Karaduwa.

Unlike Centenary which we only tracked in South-Africa and finally Angola, we were able to track NNS Unity from China, Malaysia, Sri-lanka, South-Africa, Angola and now Nigeria. Only missing out when Unity was in Mauritius, perhaps no Internet in Mauritius.

Your ship has finally arrived... Henry240, you should go throw a party on the deck

thedarksider:
but fact still remains,you guys never had real life battles since apartheid....

war,can not be calculated...it is something of experience...

killing someone else is not picknic....

Let's not try to dramatise things...

Your current war is not a serious war, Nigerian Armed Forces have more to utilise to crush Boko Haram without even feeling it.... The only time you should start talking about war not being a picnic is when you're facing an enemy deploying conventional war systems like interstate wars. Until then, this one is just a picnic.

Henry240:
Let me drop this comment and clear this up. I fully participated in the criticism of SANDF exercises and still do. Our problem was the over-emphasis of that SANDF style training, not that the training is bad.

Our argument was, when we look at the conflicts in the region, North, West, East and South (Apart from DRC and Mozambique), the fightings were mainly in built up areas, and the sort of training offered at AMANI AFRICA II should reflect this.

It is only now that the enemy(s) has been pushed out of the towns and villages can those AMANI type training be deployed. The times BHT attacked Maiduguri, you don't expect the Nigerian military to respond with Cold War type tactics, now do you?

Mmmh, SANDF style of training draws lessons from built-up areas - Angolan towns..... When the SADF mechanized (Task Force Zulu) first engaged Angolan liberation fighters it was mostly in towns and they would be driven out quickly. 4 towns were taken in a week including the big territory in between.

However on the video I see plenty of fighting in open areas which makes the "urban environment" debate invalid.

patches689:
lol second video posted in one day that shoots a hole in recent criticisms of SANDF exercises...

I dont often miss augubugugugug, but when its a chance to rub his nose in poo, I miss him dearly

In fact, it's reminds me of the 32 Battalion. The Revas being the Bufells, the T72 being the Ratels or Eland 90s ... I guess SADF / SANDF doctrine runs supreme

As for augubugugugug, he's still active in the Defence Web commentary section. I saw him displaying his "vast knowledge" on everything just last week.

patches689:
lol second video posted in one day that shoots a hole in recent criticisms of SANDF exercises...

I dont often miss augubugugugug, but when its a chance to rub his nose in poo, I miss him dearly

I knew that video was very SANDF in formation, the formation of the APCs and their pace was strictly Bush War

Henry240:
It makes you wonder whether the guys incharge of procurement in government agencies don't have a couple screws loose.

With multiple alternatives, local vehicles, why do we even bother buying from abroad?

I think your weapons acquisition entity should setup a local vs international weapons acquisition ratio on soft-skin weaponry..... This is the perfect time to develop your weapons-making ability because when the war is over, things tend to slow down.

Fynline:
Vickers, T72, Reva, Scorpion...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uw84u75BrI

We should see such videos more often... Sweet action BTW

gottfried21:
Namibian Navy Grajua Class patrol Boat

Sweet, now that's some good photography

nemesis2u:
so lets chill and enjoy internet life , now i am heading to brazzers.com. wanna follow me ?

OK, I'll take it you're a troll. ... You're dismissed

Henry240:
I don't get you?


I'm sure they got their own problems like every other military in SSA, but when you compare what they've done and are doing with their peers, it's enough to give themselves a "job well done", tap on the shoulder.

Henry240, maybe you don't know... Namibia's military tech industry is the legacy of the SA administrated South West Africa. Kavoet's vehicles, the Wolf Turbo were produced there. It didn't come up today........ So the" tap on shoulder" is kinda undermining.

nemesis2u:
welcome to globalization.

many SA defense companies r infact joint ventures between other global companies .

private indian companies r doing the same, infact i want them to follow the SA route . it is more cost effective and easy to build on experience/technology via JVs/BUYOUTS etc

DLSI is a joint venture enterprise between Mahindra & Mahindra (74%) and global defense & security company BAE Systems (26%).

here mahindra bought the tech from the IPR holders BAE Systems.

u have complains take it to them.

me i have no issue if they r from SA or from mars
as long as it is good and being produced in house in a cost effective and low price.

You posted a Picture of of the original Casspir RG Protector and claimed it was Indian.... When I tried to correct you, you proceed with your claim


I'm disputing your claims of it being "designed in India, for Indian needs"... This vehicle is straight out of Benoni , you just copied it.

.... Here..

nemesis2u:
Indigenously manufactured at Palwal, Faridabad. Production capacity of 100 MPV-1s per year.

- Developed specifically to meet the needs of the Indian armed & paramilitary forces.

- Made in India vehicle will offer a high level of protection at a cost effective price.

- DLSI to train drivers & mechanics to ensure optimum use.

- DLSI is a joint venture enterprise between Mahindra & Mahindra (74%) and global defense & security company BAE Systems (26%).

- Built with technology and product capability transfer from BAE Systems in South Africa, the MPV-I combines excellent Ballistic and Blast Protection capabilities. Built on the Ural Chassis, it incorporates a 'V' shaped mono hull chassis which directs the force of the blast away from the occupants.

- Drivetrain is a 6x6, and can carry an entire operational team making it ideally suited for anti-terrorist and anti-Naxal operations.

Are you kidding me? Is opening a link forbiden in India?

The Casspir MK6 RG Protector is designed and made in South Africa for African conditions


Read the flipping link

www.armyrecognition.com/south_africa_african_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle/casspir_mk_6_vi_rg_protector_mine_protected_personnel_carrier_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_picture.html

nemesis2u:
MPV from mahindra

That's a Casspir MK6 RG Protector

www.armyrecognition.com/south_africa_african_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle/casspir_mk_6_vi_rg_protector_mine_protected_personnel_carrier_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_picture.html

SAAF Agusta A109 in Durban, a far-cry from the semi-arid northern provinces.

Back to the topic... South African Navy Frigate

Iblawi1:
Stop saying rubbish?

Aaaaah... I didn't think you were going to answer in that uncivilized manner. But anyway, there's some sudden confusion going-on in your baifran heads, but what should one expect from you - no facts, just nothing.

Henry240:
It's enough. Which wan u come dey shout wickedness upandan? I don stop.


The South-Africans don't understand what mutual-respect is. To them, it always is a competition with Nigeria, hence my equal response.

Mmmh, was it us who started this whole thing?

Henry240, if we didn't have respect we'd be here everyday laughing and mocking your military because honestly it's something we can laugh at but we choose not to.

Iblawi1:
Congrats, more than Nigerian budget after several devaluation of the Naira.

Besides the fact that you have it on budget doesn't mean you spend it.

South African military budget is over $4 billion but nothing is moving still in you military of less than 40,000 army.
Conclusion, budgeting is different from actually amount spent.

Even before the evaluation of the Naira. The South African government had 3 times the budget of the Nigerian federal government. So that roughly translates to 9 times the amount the SA government spends per capita in comparison to Nigeria.

So the Defence budget is $4 billion (which is too small) but remember that we have hundreds of IFVs and hundreds of IPCs to maintain, more helicopters than any SSA military. We have frigates and subs which are not really poor-man's toys, military facilities, and very skilled personnel in especially in Military Health, Engineering (army, airforce and naval) and management.... So don't expect weapons acquisition at that little budget, it's already used up.