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debosky: I have a question for you Ibime: Is there ANY loss that you wouldn't blame on Emenalo? I ask because you were counting almost all of Benitez' losses as caused by Emenalo (similar to what you did for RdM).

It is too easy/convenient to blame every bad result solely on the player buying policy.

By the way, you've been unfair to Emenalo - in your 'winger count' you conveniently ignored he also signed Cahill - or was he not a 'scouted signing'

my point exactly you can't blame every defeat on imbalance and ascribe it to the machinations of a guy who works in the boardroom. at what point do you start holding the players you do have and the manager who sets them up accountable?

My last point.No doubt the team has poor balance but always laying the blame at that door means u risk turning a blind eye to other flaws especially those that can be corrected immediately. team balance is not correctable until the next window so other solutions have to be found short term.
too many wide men shooting and dribbling rather than passing(hazard,schurrle).

too many wide men rather than stretching the play are coming inside(all of them) to......dribble and shoot.

many wide men but game is still played narrow, narrow game play is very easy to defend against.

SAF understood the secret powers of good wing play,its d great equalizer. it makes a team of technically limited players appear good cos with good wing play you always have a chance of scoring goals.
your wingers should start playing like wingers!

Barca has no balance, United has no balance, Juve went the whole season unbeaten with mediocre strikers.
the loss to basle was because of poor play from players and the manager could not correct it. hazard dribbling 2 to 3 opponents on the half way line rather than passing to a free team mate and getting the ball later near the box is POOR INDIVIDUAL PLAY not POOR TEAM BALANCE.
the team has 3 strikers struggling for form.

One more point.Chelsea lost to Basle not because they were outmuscled or overrun in midfield,it was cos the Swiss side kept coming forward for d equalizer and winner.they did not feel threatened by your team's attack.........off form strikers and AMs can do that.

however i think chelsea fans should be a lil patient and give mourinho and d team time to sort out their problems which could just be teething problems.it is accepted by everyone that these are not the usual JM players so it will take time for players and manager to get used to each other.

however it is unusual when a team keeps buying attacking players of the same ilk and neglects(in my view) the defence. this is where i feel Ibime's pain (not rily i aint a chelsea fan ) ....ok at least understand his grouse.

but one cant lay the blame for every single defeat at the doorstep of imbalance.i am a united fan and all of us agree that our midfield has been weak ever since scholes aged and hargreaves and fletcher succumbed to medical issues.but that hasn't stopped us winning titles.
Madrid are arguably more balanced than Barca but that hasnt stopped Barca outperforming them regularly and in football today the list of truly balanced teams is very short indeed.

OK i get your point on 100 percent balance.
So ur submission is that both 100 % balance and 100% perfection are not achievable? i wont argue too much with that however i believe that one can still achieve balance but perfection is a myth.

my issue with your previous posts was your assertion that balance and perfection are one and the same.balance is about the mix of d different departments of a team, perfection is about so much more INCLUDING balance.
A team can be balanced without being perfect but a team can not be perfect without being balanced first.

coogar: how can you be unbalanced & yet perfect? How can you be imperfect but yet balanced? you said balance is a state in which forces occur in equal proportions. how's that not perfection?

you are saying an equilibrium can be imperfect? how so?? you said the ac milan team between 1988-94 was a balanced one, how did you reach that conclusion? that they were better than the others only suggests they were less-unbalanced than their rivals, it does not mean they were 100% balanced.

LOL u just proved my point! Balance and Perfection are NOT the same thing. U just proposed that AC Milan were LESS UNBALANCED than other teams right? You can improve on balance? Well you can't improve on perfection, u cant be more perfect or LESS UNPERFECT! u r either perfect or u are not.

A team can be be balanced but not perfect because balance is only ONE of several parameters to be assessed for a team trying to be perfect.there are other parameters like quality of the individual players themselves,team chemistry etc.


Balance and quality arent the same. A perennial midtable team might be more balanced than a top 5 team.

Balance and Perfection are different,i dont know why there is a debate about that.

Balance is a state in which different elements e.g attack and defence,youth and experience occur in equal or correct proportions.

Perfection is the state of having no flaws or defects and being as good as it is possible to be.

A team can be balanced if its constituent elements are in approximately equal proportions e.g AC Milan in the 1988-1994 period was a balanced team.However no team is ever perfect because there is usually a flaw somewhere and even if a flaw is not obvious there is always room for improvement.

Balance is something that is achievable and perfection is not.
Lastly the concept of balance is about comparing the constituent elements of a team i,e attack,midfield,defence etc NOT comparing the team to another team


Having said all that even though i believe the Chelsea team does lack balance,that was not the reason they lost to Basle.The team put out on the night was good enough to thrash Basle.Some players are just under-performing and the manager is not doing enough to correct the problems in the team

------------De Gea

....Smalling-----Rio---Vida----Evra

--------Carrick------Fellaini-----

---Valencia---Rooney-----Kagawa/Nani

------------RVP--------


keep the defence as it is.
carrick and fellaini sure starters esp cos fellaini is one of the few midfielders in the EPL who can slow(not stop) yaya toure down.

valencia cos its kolarov not clichy on that side and the speed differential might count for something PLUS he should be brimming with confidence.
kagawa or nani on the left,whoever has more fitness.shouldnt start 2 of them together cos they both have questionable match fitness.

Rooney supporting RVP........nuff said

Haaa coogar eje lenu oniro!
Elampiro said no such thing.all he said was that he once played jeun jeun soccer with karimu shaibu of T n T fame.

dademola: bt serzly, dt rooney miss cld actually hav been a failed attempt to pick out rvp!! #maybe#

I hope so but he could have passed before beating the keeper.anyhow i am happy both are scoring goals and fellaini has been decent so far.
this weekend is going to be real important especially if we can get 3 points.going to be tough especially with kompany and nastasic back in defence,that javi garcia would have been real nice

Cristalz: Wayne Rooney selfish??
A guy that's well-known for sometimes passing up opportunities he could legitimately attempt himself in order to set up his teammates?
And many times those teammates bury the ball deep in the net.
Una bias nor go kill persin.

So his miss was costly; which striker has a perfect non-miss record??
The guy performed excellently last night, yet one mistake is eagerly clutched tight enough to do dem Niger republic kids that clutch strangers on the sidewalk extremely proud.
I dey shame for una.

naa i have no bias against rooney and i have stated here in the past that he is probably our most important player. i also know he is often very unselfish.
however i hav noticed this season that he has elected to shoot in a few situations where the rooney i know would normally pass. i suspect its a subconscious urge to prove to people that he too can score goals and shouldn't be typecast as a provider alone.
RVP's horrendous miss was just that......a horrendous miss. However Rooney's miss was due to poor decision making

dayokanu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7bUyHsTJq4

haaa wa sere baba mi,u too much! e don tey

meanwhile i hope Mourinho won't regret this is 2nd coming

DayoKanu Pls in the spirit of the moment and to commiserate with our Chelsea brothers,pls Pls and PLS play any THICK Saheed Osupa song.Saridon P! Big Daddy!

last time was Apala,Dayo tonight wish kain music u wan play?
So i go know wetin to wear

nice strategic move ,but please we need to give the guy minutes as soon as possible AND please sort out his contract long term( heard there are issues with his contract negotiations).i dont want another Pogba situation on our hands.Or what does it profit a club to let Pogba go for free and spend about 30million pounds on Fellaini

@AndreRush. Thanks for d Rooney info.
It seems to show that Rooney performs best when d chips are down and at crunch time (April). I for one didn't want the guy sold to Chelsea or any EPL side,we would hv been abdicating any rights to a title challenge.
However DM has to speak to both Rooney and RVP there seems to be some envy simmering.They need to pass to each ther more esp when the other guy is through on goal

decent result. there is room for cautious optimism going forward.
I believe as DM gains confidence with some victories the team will play more expansive football more regularly,we saw a lil example of that today.
Also the first positive i noticed from the start of the season is that it seems we r more difficult to break down this season from open play,we need to cut out these gifts to opponents though

: Omo :
I dey work. How r d boys playing?

chrisley024: That would have been stupididty of d highest order.

i tell u

dayokanu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU7RDrFHX6U

a whole album? wa sere!!! i think nateevs and ibime would enjoy this particular one you posted,vintage stuff

Dayo please Please PLEASE give us Ayinla Omowura EGUNMOGAJI himself

dayokanu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW5ClWfbsic

Oshe baba mi! kare laye

DK abi DJ please do u have anything from Orlando Owoh and his African Kenneries?

All Quiet on the Western Front

chic2pimp: Huge Mistake I must say. He'll probably be united 2nd best if not best midfielder with the display i am currently witnessing.

Selling Stam had more to do with Fergie's enormous than anything else. His autobiography and all of that crap

yes but fergie himself later admitted it was a mistake and he could have handled it differently

chic2pimp: What a gem of a player Pogba is.

Currently watching the Inter vs Juve match and he has been impressive

one of ferguson's Bleep ups.
another one was selling a prime time jaap stam and replacing him with an over the hill laurent blanc.cost us a 4th successive EPL title

correction it was chamotex not coogar.
i think coogar was still sharon then

dademola: mehn, d thing dey tire me! bt instead of focusing on young, y u no wan reason valencia's case?

i don erase Valencia from my setting tey tey.
2 years or so ago i was arguing with someone here (i think it was Coogar) that the guy's lack of a left leg would be his downfall at United long term.
u can hide ur deficiencies in Wigan but not at Old Trafford...here the whole world is watching.shey na at age gbogboro the guy wan learn to use left? his own case is settled

coogar: i hope you are aware corner kicks and crossed freekicks are part of the stats. if skrtel bullies vidic to a cross then it's an accurate cross, it doesn't matter if the cross was made by beckham or maradona. it's like an assist stat. a chance must be scored before the passer gets an assist.



ashley young is one of the best crossers in this league. even when we bought him, we benefitted from plenty of his crosses. his freekick got smalling the first goal @ wembley against city.

WAS one of the best crossers! WAS not IS

1 accurate cross out of 20 says he is not in that conversation again.
Same way Valencia WAS one of the best at getting to the touch line and delivering good balls in.WAS but not anymore

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Mr_TA: Wow, the ref in the Sunderland match. After now them go say an man utd buy ref.

Abi o! no b say we talk say we no dey buy ref BUT we plenty wey dey do am

PDB don remove rotation,now na one man one vote

and i am sure giggs and valencia were crossing to same strikers.
as a winger u study the idiosyncrasies of your striker and his movements and deliver the ball accordingly NOT vice versa