₦airaland Forum

walex0709:
How can we  pay 4 road to b constructed nd still pay thieves contractor for 30yrs? Really! Acn lead by tinubu is a 419 govt only force to b pilot by fashola. Fashola b careful with your policies, tinubu cud bastardize your good image nd work. A word is enough for d wise

I strongly believe that the whole 3 toll gate thing is TIUNBU'S IDEA to milk Lagos again

I would strongly advice Fashola to just make 1 toll gate and reduce the price from 150 N to about 20 Naira

If fashola is serious about his political career that is !

He needs to thread carefully, really

emmatok:
So you get my point.

Transporter would not be excluded.

And the poor salary earners will bare the brunt of that toll.

And let me tell you those big men with escorts and convoy will never pay that toll.

emmatok, Yes I get your point

in Nigeria or lets say Lagos, we have the rich, poor and mid-class

the rich and mid-class can pay

the poor should not be in lekki unless he is an elegushi person which is awori thus it is an ancestral land which he can get exemption sticker for if he has a car.

Moreover, there is an alternative route by road

as for the public transport, I bet they can get the stickers as well thus the majority of the toll gate payers would be those working in VI ikoyi and co.

gidiMonsta:
Come on guys the protest is a silly waste of time, there are alternatives for those who cant or think they cant afford the tolls; the govt has provided BRT buses that ply the route, there is a waterway from ajah to VI and the worst the commercial drivers will do is add N30 to the transport fare. So park your cars at home and let the roads be less congested jare, make we reduce carbon emissions.

The 3 toll gates are too much tho and the N150 levy should be reviewed downward.

thank you

my point excatly. We have too many mumu's in nigeria, I no go lie

MyloXyloto:
Na where dem import these two mumu called Alj Harem and Truth Teller come from sef?

Alj Harem na illiterate speaking rubbish and truthteller na grammarian speaking rubbish sef.

@Truth teller, so because I no follow pursue armed robber wey come steal for my neighbour house, that means say i no get right to pursu thief wey come my house abi?

Which kain mumu logic be that?

you have not made any point you know !!!!!

[quote author=aloy/emeka link=topic=827419.msg9786519#msg9786519 date=1324151977]They have one but it became redundant after Asiwaju arrested the SW. I still remember Nnamani hosting their conference once and Fashola I think hosted them once. Peter Odili used to be the chairman.[/quote]and what do they discuss about ?

what political achievement do they have ?

emmatok:
You want to compare a salary earner with 100k car and a big man with N12m car with N42m mansion.

You also forget that transporter will increase their fees.

How salary earner can buy a house in those estates.

They don't come cheap.

LOL transporters can be excluded as well.

those houses are not meant for "ordinary salary earners" you need to be big to live in such as enivor

Kobojunkie:
Yes, never mind that this fight has been going on for the good part of the last two years ooo . . . it is still not a good time for them to protest the toll gate issue that affects them in some way.    

Nigerians ehn . . . . don't you just love it when some elements try to pretend they are more enlightened than they really are.  

what exactly are u arguing about ?

the point of the toll gate or what exactly

if toll gate, you have not really made any point

becos there is no southern nigeria

emmatok:
How will that happen.

Will put a mark on their forehead differentiating the rich from poor.?

For your information most working class Lekki residence live in those villages.

lekki phase 1 and other estates are filled with money bags and not salary earners.

If they are indigenes of those villages and are poor and it so happens that they "have cars"( poor having cars)

then they can issue a special exempted from the toll by giving them a from a sticker for them to place on the front screen of their cars.

the working class living in those villages and have cars can pay the ONE toll gate as I suggested initially.

jmaine:
Quote from Harem

Quit this aimless game and watch STV news by 10pm . .  .  i have giving you a reference to watch . .so don't come here asking me for pics again . . that was another silly question from you again . .

Unless you want to tell me that his assailant wearing a native was part of the Lagos state authority

Jamine, just called a friend to comfirm and yes you were right

thugs were used. very disappointing.

Kobojunkie:
The world in LEKKI does not start and end with the rich in Phase I.

and the poor have cars ?

Kobojunkie:
Dude, learn when to stop with the ignorant ramblings.

does your friend have a car in that village yes or no

If yes, it means he is part of the working class isn't it ?

if he/she is then, I bet 150 N for just one toll gate which I supported is not bad or is it ?

jmaine:
Quote from Harem

Quit this aimless game and watch STV news by 10pm . .  .  i have giving you a reference to watch . .so don't come here asking me for pics again . . that was another silly question from you again . .

I would check it out

thanks

Kobojunkie:
[b] I happen to have a friend who lives in Lekki, in a face to face, in one of those villages, and he certainly would think you a grand- eejit for that statement you have above that people in Lekki are comfortable. [/b]ROFLMAO!!! Even I wouldn't make such an arrogant statement of the people who live in my city here.

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So, you mean because I am against the government's handling of this particular issue means I am against tolling, and possibly anti-development? WOW . . . .  and all the toll I gladly paid this week, travelling to-and-fro indiana(and loving the fact that I did not have to slow down to even 70 mph, thanks to electronic tolling) was for what??  

does your friend use a car in that village ?

emmatok:
Lekki is not an expensive area, those estate are filled with empty Mansions.

70% of Lekki residence live outside those estates in Villages.

You cannot compare Sand filled Lekki to VI, Ikoyi, GRA, Ilupeju and Antony .

Yes I know. but those that would be using the toll gates are the working class people isn't it majorly in lekki phase 1 ?

Those living in the villages can be exampled from the toll gate.

[quote author=oche_ejemb link=topic=827167.msg9785935#msg9785935 date=1324147098]To suggest that everyone that lives in Lekki is rich is ignorant, have you never been there? The whole area is as large and as diverse as any other place in Lagos, the rich, the poor and those floating in the middle, not everone that lives there owns a house there, heck therr are slums there too, i honestly think the best solution is that all residents of lekki be allowed to pay severly discounted rates,[/quote]hmmm, so those living in lekki cannot pay Just one toll gate ?

whereas mushin people pay toll gate.

jmaine:
What sorta stvpid question is this and what do you hope to gain by asking this sorta silly question    . . . Guy make you rearrange bo !



Yes, getting beaten by political thugs cos they were not policemen by his accounts, is part of the consequences of protesting against a government all over the world . . . . . and the police even added cover for their thuggery damn    !!

let me hear people claim that the police is soly answerable to the F.G only . . .


So in the context of this protest and my quoted post . .the PDP and the ACN were actually colluding to harass the peaceful protesters . . Good , i now understand your point.

Political thugs ? this is new

I thought it was mopol and the police force. maybe you can upload a pic to confirm it was thugs and not the authority

Remii:
Igbo Efon, Jakande, Ilassan, Ikota Village, Okun Ajah, Sangotedo, Ajiran, Awoyaya, Alpha Beach ,,,,,,,, do you want more

So you mean those people still living in lekki cannot not pay toll gate ?

asha 80:
so the lekki epe indigenes are rich abi?

Asha I am an indigene as well and those places are elegushi areas controled by tinubu, if you cannot live in the place then it is easy to move out.

leeki indigenes are better of people in Mushin who still pay toll gate anyway

Skii:
@alj_harem

I think two tolls at the extreme ends of the lekki-epe expressway with as low a cost as 50 is okay IMO

2 toll gates is pushing it as well. The government is just doing it's job by providing roads. A toll gate should be enough to ensure all the the government needs to recover

Also I like to add that the government should not be thinking of recovering all her money because Lagos state people have already been taxed for that.

The toll gate should be used to maintain the roads and also to deter people from moving to places like Lekki if they don't have the cash.

Kobojunkie:
Please stop with the moronic ramblings already. The vast majority of those who live in Lekki are NOT RICH.

ok

What are the things you saw to suggest they are not rich ?

Kobojunkie, to build a house in Lekki is 50% more expensive than mainland because of the water level

The houses in Lekki are the most beautiful in the country. I can keep going on and on so

In fact tell me a part in Lekki that suggest the people are not rich. Thanks

jmaine:
So you saw it too   . .the lady para no be small especially after being the face of the Lagos state tax drive via T.V jingles    . . heard she was even brutalized also    . .

Tax tax tax, You know egbon mi, it is not dandan to live in a place where you know you would be taxed ?

A lot of people including Indigenes of lagos are now living in Ogun state and Oyo state and working in Lagos.

psalmizt:
Honestly I wonder waht planet you re from? How much of that lekki road was created? Was that road not in existence before LCC tushed it up? Really the only i see there is the toll gate, every other thing on that road is just ordinary.  Tell me why the citizenry can not just enjoy a common thing from the govt,  A road that was not built over swampy terrain like the Naija Delta neither was a bridge constructed over dangerous waters the govt concessioned to a private organization,  Come on ppl should think straight here,  PPP are in place when the cost of fixing the road is so much burden for the govt,  Soon someone will tell me that Abuja Lokajo should be tolled just like the east west road in the South SOuth,  The truth is that lagos state govt is [size=15pt]IRRESPONSIBLE[/size] as in the case of LASU,

I see your point but Lekki is an expensive area and as such the people that live there are the high and might of the society.

In recent years, more people have being moving their and as such the toll gate is a form of deterring people from moving there.

Lagos state is losing land fast and at the current level of urbanisation, it does not take a prophet to know that within 50 years, there would be no land left in Lagos.

Look at it as a form of tax basically.

But I want to make it clear, 3 toll gates is pushing it. I would rather it is just 1 toll gate.

[quote author=aloy/emeka link=topic=827167.msg9785790#msg9785790 date=1324145824]So it is alright the way the Syrian leader is killing protesters in his country?. So it was okay the way Ghadaffi killed protesters in Libya?. So it was okay the way Abacha wiped out many Yoruba elites who questioned him about June 12 annulment and his dictatorship?.[/quote]Killing is different from dispersing the protesters. Get your facts right.

You cannot compare this minor protest to those u mentioned

jmaine:
To those freaking liars . . .what do you have to say about the STV camera that was beaten and his camera seized by paid ACN thugs, was he also trying to force people to join the protest while covering  . .You guyz need to update your propaganda skillz . . .imagine the useless Fashola spokes person saying that the hoodlums who were unfortunately protected by the police sent by the same government were probably PDP paid thugs . .

I never knew the PDP and the ACN do have a common share in the toll gate saga . .


What a fool . . .

What !!!!! STV camera man beating by who ? Fashola or who exactly ?

What protest is there in the world that people are not manhandled ?

Once you protest against the government, get ready for the consequences.

Moreover, this is the Nigerian police we are talking about not a well civilized police force

Yes ACN is not different from PDP. Fact

mbatuku2:
^
Is there some kind of board or organisation that reviews Igbo culture, or better still that can enforce the outlawing of some odd igbo culture?

Dude, we cannot change every single aspect of our culture just because we don't like it. Culture is what defines us as a people.

till today, there are still some fulani families that would flog the hell out of you to marry their daughter.

[quote author=Ayo-olu12 link=topic=827167.msg9785771#msg9785771 date=1324145583]@2AMLasgidi
Some people here don't really give a toss about a toll or no toll, they just seek out any opportunity to bash Fashola.[/quote]Very true.

LeoMax:
occupy lekki, i wont leave this comfort zone

then you pay for the exclusive service

although it should be just one toll gate

Remii:
Honestly I feel very sad today for voting for Fasola. How can he mobilize maximum force against enlightened protestants. People who carried only placards and just dancing, did not even call govt names or insult anyone.

These same Tinubu, Fasola,  &co protested against Abacha under NADECO. It is a shame.

Even uniformed policemen almost out numbered the protesting crowd, not to talk of secret agents pretending to be among the crowd.


This is really sad.

protesters that were stopping cars and causing trouble ?

yes maximum force is needed before things get out of control

otokx:
If the 3 toll gates have alternative routes then what are you peeps talking about?

alternative route that is strip of road

the traffic that would cause alone, you would wish you paid for the 3 toll gates

fashola should reduce to just 1 toll gate if he is going to make sense at all

otokx:
The truth is coming out small, small and we see that Fashola is not as unreasonable as we are being made to believe.

exactly, that is the truth.

Fashola cannot even effectively rule Lagos as he did in the first term without tiunbu holding his puppets to impeach fashola

He is comply to do the wishes of Oga tinubu